r/AlternativeHistory • u/InitialDependent9588 • 6d ago
Lost Civilizations The Hidden City Beneath the Pyramids: A Fascinating Theory
Hey everyone! I wanted to share something incredibly intriguing I’ve come across while diving into Egyptology and the mysteries surrounding the Great Pyramids of Giza. There’s this theory that has been circulating, claiming that there might be a hidden city beneath these iconic structures. Just think about it for a second: a city that might be over 5,000 years old, lying just beneath our feet! Okay, so here’s the gist of what I’ve learned. A team of researchers, including Professor Corrado Malanga from Italy, has been using Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) to look beneath the surface of the pyramid complex. They believe they’ve found evidence of not just a city but a vibrant community with homes, advanced water systems, and even possibly a “Hall of Records.” This Hall of Records is said to hold profound knowledge about humanity and the afterlife pretty mind-blowing, right?
Now, think about the implications. If this hidden city exists, it could completely change how we understand ancient Egyptian civilization. Traditionally, we see the pyramids primarily as monumental tombs for pharaohs. But what if they were part of a larger, more complex society? Imagine the stories those forgotten streets could tell and the secrets contained within that fictitious Hall of Amenti! It’s exciting to consider how this could reshape our view of ancient life in Egypt. Of course, there’s a significant amount of scepticism surrounding these claims. Many Egyptologists are quick to dismiss them, labelling the research as unscientific and unsupported by rigorous peer review. I get why they’d be cautious—extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence—but it’s hard not to feel a sense of wonder about the potential that lies beneath the sands.
So, why is this important? I think contemplating the possibility of hidden civilizations encourages us to reflect on our connection to the past. What might we still have to learn from these lost cities? How do they relate to our current understanding of history? There’s a thrill in uncovering mysteries like these, and it’s what drives so many of us to dig deeper into our collective past. In conclusion, the idea of a city underneath the Great Pyramids is both captivating and thought-provoking. It’s a reminder that there’s still so much out there waiting to be explored. I can’t wait to see how this research progresses and what discoveries might come to light. What do you all think? Can you imagine what secrets that hidden city might hold? Let’s talk about it!
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u/WarthogLow1787 6d ago
“But what if they were part of a larger, more complex society?”
They were. Old Kingdom Egypt.
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u/Intro-Nimbus 6d ago
I heard that it is really hard to build a city underwater.
You may want to look up the groundwater level at Giza the last 10.000 years or so.
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u/peeper_tom 6d ago
Egypt used to be different, it wasnt always a desert there the nile had a different path, dams have been built. The sahara used to have many lakes and river on its surface it was green and lush but they are under ground now. If there was anything “under” it was probably not always under ground, sand is a sediment meaning it was all deposited there at some-point.
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u/CardOk755 6d ago
even possibly a “Hall of Records.” This Hall of Records is said to hold profound knowledge about humanity and the afterlife pretty mind-blowing, right?
Yeah. A radar system that can detect "profound knowledge about humanity and the afterlife".
That is pretty mind blowing.
Care to let us know who your dealer is?
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u/vonsmall 5d ago
Probably stems from the OG theory started in 400BCE.
Herodotus speculated there were hidden passages beneath the pyramids, as well as chambers, pathways, and great spaces — all of which were created when the climate and topography of Egypt were very different than it is today. Herodotus felt that beneath the pyramids lay the remnants of other ancient civilizations.
If Herodotus was correct, the pyramids may be sitting upon the most amazing time capsule in history, revealing not only long-lost cultures but also their technologies and origins saved in the earliest of writings and images.
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u/Knarrenheinz666 5d ago
Herodotus is a very bad source for Egypt. Plus in book II, chapter 150 (or so) he describes Hawara, not Gizeh. There's also no mention of anything underground.
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u/Quirky_Bottle4674 6d ago
Even if the scans were true, I'd think it's part of an electromechanical system than any city or hall of records etc.
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u/One_time_Dynamite 5d ago
You literally just made up everything you said about what's beneath the pyramids. No one has said that there's advanced water systems, homes, or a "Hall of records".
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u/ALF_My_Alien_Friend 5d ago
There is also possibly a labyrinth kind of structure with hallways and statues under the Giza plateau.
A 400 year old drawing can be found with search names "Athanasius Kircher" and giza labyrinth.
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u/Academic_Coffee4552 6d ago
They had the same thing on the Curse of Oak Island going on for years and another one with a train pf gold somewhere in Poland.
Neither sites have shown anything more, just pure speculation.
The pyramids were built on bedrock so they wouldn’t need any support. That there might be links between the pyramids why not (they were built with a good age difference)
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u/RevTurk 6d ago
It would for sure change how we understand ancient civilisations if we found they were secretly building entire cities underground, for no particular reason, on top of building all the cities above ground. It would be pretty difficult for us to come up for an explanation for why they'd build a city to house their people, along with all the infrastructure surrounding it like farm land, irrigation, and religious sites. Then build a second, entirely underground city for no reason, that was completely unnecessary as they already had a very productive and secure above ground civilisation. Thousands of people would have to transit from the underground city to the above ground lands to do important Work like tend crops and look after farm animals.
Of course there's next to no evidence for this theory, we have to assume the ancient Egyptians were lying to us with all the writings they left for us.
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u/MrBones_Gravestone 6d ago
And they made sure no one above ground made reference to it in tablets or other writing/art that’s been preserved, for reasons
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u/Bob_Leves 6d ago
What's always confused me about these supposed 'massive underground civilisations' is what they did with the sewage and how they got fresh air. Thousands of people are going to produce tons / gallons of waste per week. Above ground it just gets carted to the nearest field or goes into the river. There were systems in old mines but they were fairly small scale. Did these pre-ancient-Egyptian ancient Egyptians have air-conditioning too?
(Spoiler: of course not, because it's all "hail Xenu!" nonsense)
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u/AccountantOver4088 6d ago
I think you’re missing the point and the implication is that there are the remains of an older civilizations work beneath the Giza plateau.
It’s not ancient aliens to imagine that we do not have a complete understanding of our history and that there might have been multiple ages of civilizations we do not have records of. The tech doesn’t even need to be all stargates and magic, just had to go in a different direction, leaving different signs and because we’re so rigid in our ways (carbon dating, looking for changes in the geology thay we would have left etc) we never see it.
Tens of thousands of years in human history unaccounted for, and throughout our own we’ve had incredibly quick technological and cultural leaps, yet we assume zero happened and for 60k years or w.e man was content to eat berries and hunt, not because he had to but because he wanted to and was incapable of doing otherwise.
We know there’s been cataclysms, and mass extinctions, several that we can prove. The only thing that makes sense regarding this kind of out there, so far unprovable thought line, is that either whatever came before the Stone Age was sent there via cataclysm or destroyed themselves and sent themselves there. Maybe whatever was left decided they were better off mucking about the hills and caves so that they didn’t repeat it.
All purely speculation, but I don’t think anyone’s implying the old or new kingdoms of Egypt did any of that. Maybe they slapped a shiny new outside on it and buried their kings there, but it’s becoming increasingly confusingly unlikely, if any of the new data is being interpreted correctly, that they were not capable of building such a thing. We know they defaced, refinished, re named and re attributed several Monuments to various people, they’ve had ti use various forms of imaging technology to reveal what was underneath . Who’s to say the Egyptians as we know them didn’t just re face them and the original creators were as much a mystery to them as they are to us?
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u/RevTurk 6d ago
Maybe it could have happened, we just don't have any evidence for it. We have evidence for stone age hunter gatherers all over the world.
I do think that we vastly under estimate the capabilities of prehistoric people. These were essentially the people who invented everything, That's not easy, you can't really invent something util you have the need for it.
I also think humans were much more successful as hunter gatherers than we give them credit for. We paint a picture of them suffering and struggling through life but I think it was probably the opposite coming up to the beginning of farming. They were so successful they had time to invent farming and civilisation.
Human population were low at that time and could go where they pleased. They could hunt anything and could find food anywhere. there was no real pressure on them to change. Environmental pressure is what changes animals, not eureka moments of invention.
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u/Stittastutta 5d ago
Would love all this to be true. But as far as I know they still refuse to publish a paper on their findings.
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u/Knarrenheinz666 5d ago edited 4d ago
The professor is an ex assistant professor of... Chemistry.
Yes, we see the pyramids as tombs as that's what primary narrative source material says. They are tombs.
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u/PlayNicePlayCrazy 5d ago
It's not a city it's a large underground alien prison for its worst offenders. Opening it will unleash their "souls" into the world and the rest of the galaxy dooming billions.
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u/A1pinejoe 4d ago
Whilst I remain skeptical until I see some hard data on these findings. I can't help but think that if an underground city like Derinkuyu had been built in Egypt by more advanced people, the pyramids may be a kind of universal life support system, for water, power and ventilation. The great pyramid in particular has never been proved to be a tomb and has no internal inscriptions. Even the dimensions of the internal passageways were clearly not designed to be used by people. Similar to HVAC duct work, those structures are designed to carry air not people and it is reflective in their dimensions.
Maybe they were designed to prohibit access from the surface for whatever reason the people had set up a society underground, invasion, cataclysm etc. Just a thought.
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u/Successful-Special-3 1d ago
That theory doesn't sound that outlandish.
There is precedent with Derinkuyu, which is literally a massive underground human ant colony where 20,000 people could live.
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u/Uellerstone 6d ago
You’re a little late to the party on this one. This is going to go nowhere because archaeologists can’t admit the pyramids are 10600 or even 26000 years old. That’s the last two times they lined up with the constellation. The lords of Anu would never build something not in alignment with the stars
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u/TooHonestButTrue 6d ago
There is enough pseudo-science to encourage more investigation, and I'm getting the sense people want this story to be true, and when enough people feel that it will.
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u/YesPleaseMadam 5d ago
i would not be shocked, underground cities are a real thing https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20220810-derinkuyu-turkeys-underground-city-of-20000-people
nobody found it out because of their writing. but hey if the Egyptians did not tell us we should not look for it.
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u/Ubernoodles84 6d ago
If it exists, I reckon there are people that know about it, have been inside & will do anything to make sure nobody else can. Imo oc.
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u/MrBones_Gravestone 6d ago
….why? I never understood why there seems to be this idea of “they’re trying to hide the past!” Why?
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u/Dolnikan 5d ago
Yeah. Whoever found such a thing could become hugely famous for making the biggest discovery of all times. And really, why would they keep it a secret? Throughout successive governments even.
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u/MrBones_Gravestone 5d ago
Governments that have had plenty of leaks themselves
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u/Dolnikan 5d ago
And not just that. They also somehow all collaborate perfectly despite, at best, being competitors.
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u/Ubernoodles84 5d ago
I just find it hard to believe that something like that, in a place so obvious, would have been missed by everyone for thousands of years. Obviously I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion. If someone in the world does know about it & has been there, then they've not told anyone & I'm sure it'll be a bummer for them to have it revealed to the World.
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u/MrBones_Gravestone 5d ago
It’s probably even more likely that it’s not an “ancient city”. The technology used doesn’t penetrate that deep, and all the social media posts are just clickbait. So it’s not “it’s so obvious but everyone missed it” it’s “amateur folks are making clickbait to drive traffic for ad revenue, by making outlandish claims with no proof”
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u/Ubernoodles84 5d ago
Yep, that's why I wrote 'if it's exists', but I hope it does. It'd be one of the coolest archeological discoveries ever
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u/CommonSensei-_ 5d ago
Because academics are unlikely to say their whole lives of research and careers … turns out to be less than true. They want to keep their credibility, that’s human nature.
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u/MrBones_Gravestone 5d ago
When new things pop up, with credible evidence, experts are the first to pounce on it. They’d want their name to be associated with a huge discovery, like the guy who found the real Troy
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u/Knarrenheinz666 4d ago
There's no proof Schliemann discovered "the real Troy". Zero. Schliemann discovered a bronze era/ancient town, that even the Romans knew about. Just because Homer's epos mentions that the city was located there doesn't mean that that's the "real Troy" where the war had occured. Just because a story references a real place doesn't mean the story itself is based on facts.
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u/MrBones_Gravestone 4d ago
They aren’t going to find a neon sign “here’s Troy, from that epic homer is going to write about one day”. The site he found is assumed to be the “inspiration” for what would be written about, but archeological data does match up with records.
Archeologists are basically in agreement that this is, basically, the real Troy.
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u/Knarrenheinz666 4d ago
The "real Troy" has most likely only existed in Homer's epos. That's the "real Troy". We can only assume that Homer's "real Troy´s" location is identical with Wiluša and that's the city that Schliemann found. But even that´s far from certain.
You might not be aware of it but in the early 2000s there was a "Troy Controversy" between Manfred Korfmann and Frank Kolb. Most archeologists and ancient historians eventually sided with Kolb while Korfmann, due to his media presence, could draw support from the wider public. The debate got eventually quite heated with Korb calling Korfmann "a Däniken of archeology". After Korfmann´s death a few years later it sort of fizzled out and no one really picks up the topic anymore but the question itself is far from being settled,
Where I stand on it? Homer needed a location for his epos, being Ionian or Aolian he knew his country fairly well and picked that place but anything else in his description is already part of his poetic work. If we pick the "real Troy" variant then we´re almost hinting at some elements of historicity being included in the epos, at least the wider public would certainly understand it that way. But, if we examine the evidence, there´s not much more left than the location itself. In that respect, I am definitely with Kolb.
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u/Alienbunnyluv 6d ago
Most of these ancient sites have been subject to a cover up. Usually very crude cover up. There is a reason why this is covered up and I believe that reason would cause panic. If it is true it will be hushed and covered up. Who knows why….secrets if a repeating cataclysm…..secrets of ancient civilization. Something buried these secrets under sands…and they keep burying it for some reason.
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u/Intro-Nimbus 6d ago
What panic?
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u/Alienbunnyluv 6d ago
Dont know why but must be something that is causing people to be uncomfortable. Maybe we all live in a enclosed system. Maybe some ancient race is coming back. Maybe an asteroid field that causes the surface to be unlivable.
Who knows. But any of these scenarios would cause panic. Imagine people go from being productive members of a producing economy to hoarding weapons and building bunkers.
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u/Intro-Nimbus 6d ago
What would cause that reaction? Panic like that only happens in movie scripts unless your neighboring country just declared war on you, and then it's not panic but a rational reaction.
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u/Knarrenheinz666 4d ago
He's nuts....
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u/Intro-Nimbus 4d ago
It looks like he's inventing both the secret and the motive to keep the secret secret.
Conspiracies and coverups absolutely happen, but they tend to have pretty clear motives...1
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 6d ago
It's the panic it would bring about and the fact we have been deliberately lied to. No one likes to feel a fool.
I think you're on the right track with the recurring cataclysms and past civilizations
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u/Rickenbacker69 6d ago
Dude. 99% of people wouldn't give a shit, there would be no panic.
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 6d ago
Exactly, people are so attached to their precious, programmed timeline they actually wouldn't give a shit. 99% of people on this earth are selfish as fuck. They're basically NPCs. They are too far gone.
They should give a shit though.
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u/RevTurk 6d ago
I don't see why it would bring panic, most people don't care about history. The people who made this lie have been dead for thousands of years, everyone in between was as clueless as we are today.
If there's a conspiracy here it's one created by the original Egyptians, where they built their underground city, somehow made sure no one ever mentioned that massive city that would have taken more people to build than would have been required to build the pyramids. They then hide that city, and all the waste digging it out would have produced. Which is a big departure for the Egyptians who loved to boost about everything they did.
What's the point of this city if they never talked about it and no one lived in it?
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u/Alienbunnyluv 6d ago
Its not the Egyptians its whatever pre dated them Atlanteans probably. Either technology or knowledge or something deemed offensive hence they were destroyed.
Egyptians are either the remenets of the previous civ or received the remaining knowledge and slowly lost it through the ages through secrets held by the elites.
Either way whatever is underground people in power done want it known. Im sure govt know about it
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u/RevTurk 6d ago
Which government? And how could they possibly know about it if it's only been discovered? Egypt has been under the control of many different governments throughout it's existence.
Atlantis was a work of fiction. It was never a real place.
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u/Alienbunnyluv 6d ago
They have other ruins that the govt turned into military sites. Also others in Turkey that were flooded. Malta tunnels connect across Europe. So multiple govts
Maybe Atlantis was a myth but there was a older civilization
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u/RevTurk 6d ago
People are claiming there was a pre-ancient civilisation, the majority of people (especially the experts that spend the most time studying this stuff) disagrees with them and their methods.
Your now going off to other countries rather than sticking at the site in question. Different cultures making underground habitats at different times don't prove what your saying about this site.
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u/BeautifulGlum9394 5d ago
I remember learning about underground cities in Egypt when I was a kid, I remember talk of a labyrinth underneath one of the big temples that lead to a underground complex, it was closed off to excavation and research by the egypt gov/military
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u/roger3rd 4d ago
I look forward to the prevailing explanation changing from “tomb” to something that makes sense
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u/Knarrenheinz666 2d ago
Tomb is a perfectly reasonable explanation supported by actual evidence, incl. an actual narrative source from the First Intermediary Period clearly spelling it out - tomb. You know, there's more than just the Gizeh complex. We did find the remains of pharaos in 5th dynasty pyramids.
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u/BaseRelevance 6d ago
There indeed a lot of discussion, and from what I can tell currently not a lot of proof on how their research tech works therefore the skepticism is also current. If you would like a short and factual deep dive, I did a video about the subject too: https://youtu.be/D1Z4FDUSqRY
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u/Extra-Medium69 6d ago
But what if its like the tv show Silo and we unearth this parallel underground civilization who endured the last ice age and still think the outside is inhospitable