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Archaeological Anomalies Claimed structures under pyramids has been shown in 1909 painting by Lithuanian artist M.K Čiurlionis. Called Sonata nr. 7

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u/WayAdmirable150 3d ago edited 3d ago

During the time he was painting Sonata paintings (it was a cycle) in his letter he wrote this
"And I paint. I wake up at 7 or earlier and can't tear myself away, I have such a terrible desire to paint. I work more than 10 hours a day. But is this really work? I don’t know where the time goes, everything disappears somewhere, and I travel through the distant horizons of my dreamed-up world, which may be somewhat strange, but I feel good in it."

Also in some letters he wrote, he believe to have power to travel with his mind. Sounds like he was the original remove viewer.

In 1995, Italian art historian Gabriella di Milia wrote in the magazine Krantai, published on the occasion of the 120th anniversary of M.K. Čiurlionis’ birth:

"As one of his friends from Poland claims, Čiurlionis was interested in experimental psychology and practiced parapsychological abilities himself – remote hypnosis and healing by hand."

The Italian researcher also refers to the memoirs of Jadvyga Čiurlionytė and writes that "if someone in the family had a toothache or a headache, Konstantinas would relieve the pain with the touch of his hands. Moreover, while in Druskininkai, he repeatedly demonstrated that he could transmit thoughts over a distance."

more about his you can find in this article: https://www.lrytas.lt/gyvenimo-budas/psichologija/2016/12/10/news/psichiatre-mikalojus-konstantinas-ciurlionis-sirgo-psichikos-liga-708870

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u/LimpCroissant 3d ago

The lightning bolts striking the top of the 3 pyramids is also interesting.

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u/Possible-Elevator-82 3d ago

It’s not lightning specifically. It’s just the symbol for electricity. The pillars go into the quartz band creating a connection between the atmospheric energy we can’t see to the crystals in the earth. Creating a circuit like in a fuse panel. Power in would be the atmospheric energy, pyramid would be the appliance plugged in, pillars would be the ground or neutral. The pyramids then were able to transmit that horizontally.

Same thing Tesla was duplicating. He understood the principles of it. When he was close, his funding was pulled and he was never able to complete it. It was written he hid 1 last trunk that contains the complete info on it that was not stored in the ones the government took. Even the secret stash he left to mislead them about the final one he hid.

That trunk is said to contain the blue prints and instructions to harness the earths natural energy and how to transmit it wirelessly. That was from an assistants journal that also said he slept covered in clear quartz every night as the info he was getting was from the information band just outside our atmosphere. His high iq probably allowed him access to this as his vibration would have been way higher than a normal persons. Einstein also said clear quartz was the answer to the universe too.

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u/RedMinor2 2d ago

Einstein said that?

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u/Possible-Elevator-82 2d ago

Yes. He understood that certain quartz was capable of manipulating energy and magnetic field’s when used correctly. I’m not sure if he knew about the bands of it under ground though or there extent .

Most of be best info is not looking at the person in general, but the person that was working with them who is never mentioned. Assistants, who always kept journals.

If it wasn’t for captain Bryds grandson finding his diary that info in writing would have been lost.
And I shit you not, I’m working with a 73 year old man whose dad was on that expedition and is in the photo. And I asked him about it. He said his dad would never answer him. He brought it up for years. When he was close to passing he finally told him and all he said was - Humans are way smarter than they are given credit for.

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u/chunkdahunk 17h ago

Can you elaborate? Im curious what the use of electricity would be for that type of civilization.

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u/Whole-Cartoonist6791 3d ago

I don't think they are being struck...I think they are shooting electricity upwards. Crazy right?

So...what if It’s part of a massive wireless system of power plants, linked to matching pyramids all over the earth, placed on energy meridian ley lines that would fire off simultaneously to create a global electrical storm/force field in the ionosphere to protect us from the Taurid debris field we pass through a thicker section of every three thousand some odd years. Why else would we have massive ancient underground complexes like in Turkey that housed tens of thousands of people for hundreds of years? Plus, no soot in those places? How did they go to the bathroom, feed themselves, etc. They had power for one, but also they lived underground because the sky was raining fire. I think maybe pyramids all fire huge electrical microwave energy pulses into the sky that disperses in our ionosphere in basically a huge electrical storm up there that blasts the shit out of high metal content meteor chunks raining down. Lot more to it but you get the idea. Maybe if we rehab them Al will take all of this info and figure out how turn them back on. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 

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u/chunkdahunk 17h ago

Any place I could read more on this?

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u/SirRagnas 3d ago

*Christopher Dunn has entered the chat*

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u/J-Bone357 3d ago

Wow thanks for that context. Super interesting case study

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u/sandy-horseshoe 4d ago

Either way this is a great work of art

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u/NDMagoo 3d ago

I wanna find a poster of this now!

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u/AffectionatePause152 4d ago

I wonder if these are huge pipes that reach the water table at the bottom. If so, perhaps they provided a positive pressure and were used as an elevator for the heavy stones while building the pyramids.

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u/DreCapitanoII 4d ago

If they could build and install those pipes they wouldn't need any special engineering tools to build the pyramids. Those pipes would be the largest and most complicated piece of engineering to ever exist on the planet. Building the pyramids would be child's play by comparison.

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u/donedrone707 3d ago

the labyrinth further south in Egypt is the most complicated/largest piece of engineering to ever exist. Massive structures entirely underground, multiple levels, and with the largest chambers big enough to fit all of the great pyramids inside.

Herodotus and other ancient people wrote about it. Also about chambers under the Sphinx, with thkse being accessible during the crusades and potentially as recently as the 1800s

Now you have to ask yourself, if there is so much cool stuff underground in ancient Egypt, why aren't we digging it up?

and literally the only possible answer is: someone (whoever gives orders to Zahi Hawass and the antiquities department) doesn't want us to.

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u/reddit_faa7777 3d ago

Egypt/Hawass are afraid/know it'll prove it wasn't Egyptians?

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u/revanisthesith 3d ago

It would/could also upset official timelines that Islam follows.

Anything that could upend the way the masses look at the world is a danger to those in power.

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u/SuddenBanana8169 3d ago

Herodotus even said the Labyrinth was more impressive than the Pyramids. I’m with you, they don’t want us to know what’s under there

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u/donedrone707 3d ago

Yup 100%

an archeological team discovered the entrance to it like 10 years ago. Hawass kicked them out as soon as they asked for permission to excavate (there was a capstone blocking the entrance they found), they were denied but came back a few years later, the capstone has been moved and they found modern garbage (chip bags) and evidence they had railcar track previously laid in to remove artifacts and things

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u/amarnaredux 3d ago

Not surprised, they're attempting to hold onto a narrative and control how the past is perceived.

They've been doing it for a long time.

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u/captainn_chunk 3d ago

You’re telling me nobody could survey that area and keep it monitored for a year before they could finally come back?

Even Indiana Jones had better plot lines than that

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u/RedMinor2 2d ago

Proof? Evidence? Link?

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u/Rizzanthrope 1d ago

I'm going to need links for all these claims

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u/AffectionatePause152 4d ago

Well. If it’s like digging a well, maybe it’s not so hard, only requiring patience and persistence.

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u/Gex2-EnterTheGecko 3d ago

You're vastly underestimating how much time and effort it would take to do this. We would have no hope of doing anything even close with all of today's technology and an unlimited budget.

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u/Fine-Manufacturer413 3d ago

You would die digging a well after 3 feet....man..all these comments from uneducated ppl

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u/vinibrian 3d ago

yes, and?
The pyramids had a purpose

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u/baggottman 3d ago

I'm traveling to Cairo this weekend. Will report back.

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u/Foreversoul_seeker 3d ago

it pains me to think about all the knowledge we lost in the fire of Alexandria😭😭

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u/Yasirbare 2d ago

We could open the Vatican Secret Records they are not burned yet - it is like we learnt nothing but we behave as if.

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u/Similar_Vacation6146 2d ago

Probably very little. It housed copies of documents and books, many of which could've been found in other libraries or collections.

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u/TeslasElectricHat 1d ago

We didn’t, this is a common misconception. Check out r/askhistorians, this question has been asked multiples times and has some great answers.

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u/salacious_sonogram 3d ago

No advanced metallurgy or else we would be finding titanium tools and metal composites around. Probably just stuff on mathematics, physics, gears, mechanics, hydronics, plant based medicine, rudimentary chemistry, and tons and tons of spiritual stuff from different corners of the world.

For the most part we've regained and deeply expanded on everything scientific. Folk theology and philosophy is mostly lost to time or captured in part by other practices.

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u/Nsfwacct1872564 1d ago

We didn't lose a lot of knowledge on fire suppression either, that's for sure.

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u/OverTheEventHorizon 2d ago edited 2d ago

Perhaps, he channeled this knowledge, and it was incorporated into the paintings. This has happened before. Om seti received information about the pyramids that turned out to be accurate. 

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u/merrimoth 4d ago edited 4d ago

Purely speculative this is, but it seems like what Čiurlionis is trying to convey here is that the Pyramids were originally giant machines electronically charged by the lightning strikes, which then stored the electricity somehow, perhaps in some kind of battery-type technology, and then the glow on the apex of the structures would suggest that they functioned as some sort of power station. It's worth checking out some of his other works in relation to this painting as they appear to have arcane knowledge as their subject; seems like he potentially painted stuff related to UAP also:

Cloud Boat, 1906: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Laivas.Debesys.jpg

Andante, 1908: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Mikalojus_Konstantinas_Ciurlionis_-_ANDANTE_%28IV%29_-_1908.jpg

The Creation of the World V, 1905 : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Mikalojus_Konstantinas_Ciurlionis_-_CREATION_OF_THE_WORLD_%28V%29_-_1905_-_6%2C_Varsuva.jpg/1280px-Mikalojus_Konstantinas_Ciurlionis_-_CREATION_OF_THE_WORLD_%28V%29_-_1905_-_6%2C_Varsuva.jpg

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u/Axel3600 4d ago

You're gonna pull a muscle with a stretch like that

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u/Inna_Bien 3d ago

I saw many of his original paintings. They game me goosebumps. You guys should look him up.

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u/Wildhorse_88 4d ago

I used to think it was possible that a reverse pyramid was buried underground, making the pyramids actually diamonds. But now we see these massive columns which possibly generated some type of pressure or charge, making the pyramids functional power stations or chemical factories. So much about Egypt has been occulted, the powers that be just do not want us to understand. But when the universe is ready for the majority to understand, we will, and no gatekeeping scientist or archaeologist can stop that.

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u/chessboxer4 3d ago

Speaking of occulted, I was taught there IS another pyramid that mirrors at least the Great but possibly all the Giza pyramids, but they are above, pointing down, and obviously not of the same constitution as the known pyramids. FWIW

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u/Laufeyson9 2d ago

Taught by who? In a sea of funny comments on an old painting no one here has context for, this one made me laugh the loudest.

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u/chessboxer4 2d ago

Right on! Glad it made you laugh, I'm not insulted at all, take it for what you will.

A mystery school.

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay 4d ago

The underground structures would only need to be some type of metal in order to provide electricity. It’s very low tech.

“An earth battery is a pair of electrodes made of two dissimilar metals, such as iron and copper, which are buried in the soil or immersed in the sea. Earth batteries act as water-activated batteries. If the plates are sufficiently far apart, they can tap telluric currents .[citation needed] Earth batteries are sometimes referred to as telluric power sources and telluric generators.”

“thrust two metal plates into the ground at a certain distance from each other in the direction of a magnetic meridian, or astronomical meridian. The stronger currents flow from south to north. This phenomenon possesses a considerable uniformity of current strength and voltage. As the Earth currents flow from south to north, electrodes are positioned, beginning in the south and ending in the north, to increase the voltage at as large a distance as possible.”

The Giza pyramids are positioned along the north/south meridians. They are also aligned with astronomical meridians.

They are simple earth batteries.

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u/JenkoRun 3d ago

You don't need metal to transmit electricity, heck, you don't even need metal to generate it in the first place, just create the necessary potential difference and have the source component resonate while being in contact with Earth ground, electrostatic displacement current through dielectric material is nothing new and easily doable.

Though I doubt they were using electricity, all indications point to their power type being acoustic in nature, vibration.

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay 3d ago

Sure but I’ve given very simple explanations that match up with things we can prove that the pyramids already have going for them. The hieroglyphs we’ve found also show what appears to be electrical components and that they were using tools to possibly shock people as some sort of treatment.

The pyramid blocks themselves could’ve been stacked up to provide energy storage in the form of gravity batteries. Just don’t know that I’ve seen any evidence of a generator that could utilize the stored energy, unless they really were using hydraulics, then that would be another simple technology to use the gravity batteries towards.

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u/selectionperplexion 1d ago

You mean just like the Louvre??? What did they know? Was I.M. Pei a secret mason??

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u/RevTurk 4d ago

If someone could actually generate significant electricity for a pile of stones in a pyramid shape they should do that. It would go a long way to supporting their ideas.

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay 4d ago

Earth batteries are very simple technology and have been used since the 1800s for telegraph networks. The major drawback is that they are reliant on wet soil, so drought prone land creates a period of power outage.

Ancient Egypt relied on the annual flooding to provide fertile silt and wash away salts from the land.

It’s also possible that they relied on annual flooding to provide wet soil for their power grid to refill power storage facilities.

It’s absurd to think that an entire society would waste resources on just a burial mound. Entirely bonkers. I am never going to believe that narrative.

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u/Sensitive_File6582 3d ago

They did devote massive resources to their kings tombs. 

In the valley of the kings. 

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u/Wildhorse_88 3d ago

The Baghdad battery was a very interesting find to say the least.

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u/Safe-Indication-1137 1d ago

Glad I'm not the only one that remembers this. The bagdsd battery discovery was when I really started to wonder how accurate our history actually is.

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u/DreCapitanoII 4d ago

But where are these "power storage facilities?" Where are the things they powered? Did they fly off to Mars with every trace of their civilization?

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay 3d ago

Great question, though a bit disingenuous.

You may have seen them in pictures. They’re giant fuckin pyramids lol each block weighs 2.5 tons. Giant rocks are one of the most energy dense gravity batteries on the planet and they never lose their stored energy, once they’re placed on giant pyramids.

Cool, huh?

Low tech earth battery with low tech energy storage.

But sure, they flew off to Mars. Fuckin ridiculous.

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u/RevTurk 4d ago

Societies all over the world dedicated loads of resources to burying their people, not all of them were on the scale of the pyramids but would have been equally costly to the group. If you find it bonkers you haven't been paying attention to history.

This is established history, we have seen many cultures doing it, right up into recorded history, and into the modern day. Saying that's not the case is bizarre. The Pharaoh was a God to the Egyptians.

There is no sign at all, anywhere in Egypt that they have electricity. No waste, no infrastructure no machinery.

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u/regular-cake 4d ago

Something tells me if they had tapped into an electricity source back then it wouldn't have been used for some sort of everyday activities or even on machinery. I think it would have only been used by the highest of the high society or the ruler. Probably would have been used as a way to subjugate the people or as a way to convince people they were actually gods. Like some sort of crazy party trick or something. Something as simple as a timed burst of light out of a structure could have been used to show the "god-like abilities" of a ruler.

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay 4d ago

No, just stop. I already told you that I am never going to believe that narrative. It’s been told and retold again and again and you retelling it won’t make it true.

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u/DreamsofDistantEarth 10h ago

So what was the electricity used for, then? How is electricity stored in stones once they are in pyramidal shape, as you claimed above? How does that actually work?

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay 4h ago

According to hieroglyphs it was used for lighting and treating people.

Electricity isn’t stored exactly, but the energy it provides to do work is stored. You lift a heavy object up high and then store it up high until you’re ready to use it. Then you lower that object with pulleys to recollect the energy and use it. Since new hypotheses exist related to hydraulics, I suspect they used a combination of various engineering means of doing work(electricity, gravity, hydraulic, friction, flywheels, etc). So they would possibly use the stored energy to supply hydraulics with pressure.

What I would be curious to know is if they had any form of a generator as we know them today, or if they just used rudimentary engineering concepts in clever ways instead. I suspect they didn’t have a generator and Tesla really was a bad ass to have come up with it.

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u/puffdaddy7 4d ago

I think the scale is the issue. If the pyramids actually used the underground aquifers, the resonant frequency of the Earth itself, and the chambers of varying stone to create electrical current (as suggested by some theories), then it may not be possible to test on a small scale. The immense size of the Earth would not allow us to properly identify the methods used by the ancients, unless we closely imitate their scale. And unfortunately, the cost is too great for such an endeavor.

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay 4d ago

It’s absolutely testable on a small scale. The United States used earth batteries to create a telegraph network. Earth batteries are very low tech.

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u/puffdaddy7 3d ago

I disagree. You're talking about upscaling transistors across great distances. All that matters there is a constantly connected electrical wire. With some nuance involved to not lose charge, transistors, resistors, etc...

I'm talking about scaling down a planet and understanding the great forces that involve the rotation of the Earth, the rotation of the core, the magnetic field of the planet, etc... I don't think we fully understand those forces on a global scale. We still don't know exactly what is in the lower mantle of the planet. We have a good idea but not 100%

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay 3d ago

You’re overcomplicating it. I wrote several comments about how the pyramids can be used for electricity.

I did not mention transistors at all (yet).

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u/DreCapitanoII 4d ago

Will never understand how people keep claiming a stone structure is some kind of power generator. And like where is all the stuff it was supposedly powering? Not one ancient flying car or television has turned up in the sand? The only thing left is the power station??

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u/Sensitive_File6582 3d ago

I don’t think most westernized people who’ve looked into the pyramids seriously consider them to be tombs anymore.

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u/ZARDOZ4972 3d ago

I don't know any westerner who doesn't think they are tomb's.

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u/duhdamn 3d ago

May I suggest new friends. Hehe

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u/Nyx666 3d ago

I don’t understand this either. It seems there has been an uptick in people labeling others with schizophrenia or relatable illness with thinking outside the box.

As we step further into the quantum realm, shit is going to get weirder and we will be needing those out of the box thinkers.

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u/BigPackHater 3d ago

It seems there has been an uptick in people labeling others with schizophrenia or relatable illness with thinking outside the box.

Hmmmmmm where have we seen this before? 🤔...

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u/CoderAU 3d ago

Pretty much all great minds throughout history were labelled crazy for their fringe ideas in some capacity.

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u/Nyx666 3d ago

It’s because im a figment of your imagination creating deja vu. To the psychward you go!

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u/Apophylita 3d ago

...fascism?

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u/Fonz_72 3d ago

DON'T ROCK THE BOAT!

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u/joeybevosentmeovah 3d ago

Because the CIA has been very successful at stifling thought and implanting words we use to police each other.

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u/nicepresident 3d ago

what scientists? who is ‘he’.

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u/mrbadassmotherfucker 3d ago

Filippo Biondi

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u/RevolutionaryClub530 3d ago

Not even worth the comment man, these types of people are just stuck in their own reality of hell, time will tell what lies beneath the pyramids but it’s been OBVIOUS that mainstream science shuts down any conflicting ideas, they just need people to believe that humans built the pyramids which if they did they had tech far greater than ours and it would also disrupt the mainstream focus

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u/mrbadassmotherfucker 3d ago

Agreed man. I just hope the truth comes forward whatever that may be

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u/RevolutionaryClub530 3d ago

That shitty thing is even when the truth is presented to us half of us will still think it’s a lie because we’ve been lied to for generations

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u/mrbadassmotherfucker 3d ago

Yep. It’ll take a while for reality to actually filter through

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u/SirPabloFingerful 3d ago

It is by definition a conspiracy theory though, isn't it

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u/abyssalwhispers 3d ago

You're someone who wouldve been dead set on the earth being the center of the universe during the time of Copernicus.

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u/mrbadassmotherfucker 3d ago

Does that make any undiscovered anomaly a conspiracy theory… or perhaps they discover something about quantum mechanics that isn’t part of mainstream theology, must be a conspiracy.

I dunno, I don’t buy that everything that isn’t a mainstream opinion is a conspiracy tbh

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u/SirPabloFingerful 3d ago

There is no undiscovered anomaly or real suggestion of one in this case. There is some scan data that has erroneously been interpreted by (if I recall) a YouTuber and extrapolated into what is now an outright lie, and that's why it clearly has no relation to this painting.

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u/j0shj0shj0shj0sh 3d ago edited 3d ago

Even if that is true - what is the 'conspiracy' exactly? If they are mistaken or wrong in their conclusions - even if that includes conjecture and extrapolation - that doesn't necessarily mean there is a conspiracy at play. They could just be wrong.

The idea of 'conspiracy theorist' as an epithet is old and tired. Conspiracy's do actually take place, but these words are designed to stop people from talking about them.

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u/mrbadassmotherfucker 3d ago

Nope, you haven’t read into this very far have you. Simply skimmed the information off the top and decided it’s BS. What a shame those who don’t want to have their mind changed have time to investigate anything outside of their box.

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u/iObeyTheHivemind 3d ago

I wouldn't waste your time. This commenter is clueless.

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u/SirPabloFingerful 3d ago

Wow "nope", guess I'll change my mind and believe the pyramids are magic power generators then 🤣 what a dipshit

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u/mrbadassmotherfucker 3d ago

Throwing abuse at people you don’t agree with… very mature.

No one here has even mentioned magic power generators. We’re just talking about structures underneath the pyramids.

You seem to be extremely set in your own little paradigm. I hope you are happy closing your mind to any alternate possibilities.

Enjoy your slavery 🫡

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u/SoFullOfHope 4d ago

Around here that seems good enough at times

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u/The_Grim_Sleaper 4d ago

So you heard about them too? It’s not just me…

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u/Renegade_Butts 4d ago

That's proof enough for me. I bet mainstream archaeology won't even mention this.

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u/happyarchae 4d ago

we’re hiding the truth. for reasons no one can ever explain

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u/WayAdmirable150 3d ago

Ofcouse all this sounds strange and not believable, but it also sounds crazy if you check more about M. K. Čiurlionis himself. Some information below about his personality.

During the time he was painting Sonata paintings (it was a cycle) in his letter he wrote this
"And I paint. I wake up at 7 or earlier and can't tear myself away, I have such a terrible desire to paint. I work more than 10 hours a day. But is this really work? I don’t know where the time goes, everything disappears somewhere, and I travel through the distant horizons of my dreamed-up world, which may be somewhat strange, but I feel good in it."

Also in some letters he wrote, he believe to have power to travel with his mind. Sounds like he was the original remove viewer.

In 1995, Italian art historian Gabriella di Milia wrote in the magazine Krantai, published on the occasion of the 120th anniversary of M.K. Čiurlionis’ birth:

"As one of his friends from Poland claims, Čiurlionis was interested in experimental psychology and practiced parapsychological abilities himself – remote hypnosis and healing by hand."

The Italian researcher also refers to the memoirs of Jadvyga Čiurlionytė and writes that "if someone in the family had a toothache or a headache, Konstantinas (his second name) would relieve the pain with the touch of his hands. Moreover, while in Druskininkai, he repeatedly demonstrated that he could transmit thoughts over a distance."

more about his you can find in this article: https://www.lrytas.lt/gyvenimo-budas/psichologija/2016/12/10/news/psichiatre-mikalojus-konstantinas-ciurlionis-sirgo-psichikos-liga-708870

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u/SirPabloFingerful 3d ago

There's not even a link between the fictional world of remote viewing and the fictional idea that the pyramids somehow generate or store power. What?!

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u/Gem420 4d ago

Let people enjoy things, my god, do you enjoy sucking the life out of people?

And so what if some people actually believe it? What does that have anything to do with you? Nothing

Your just jealous that you can’t suspend disbelief enough to enjoy something you know isn’t real.

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u/SirPabloFingerful 4d ago

Absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying a surreal painting, just don't imply/explicitly state that it is a drawing of real structures underneath the pyramids, because that's called lying.

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u/perennialdust 4d ago

Is it theorizing that some people have had insights that turned out to be true lying?

I don't remember which Greek philosopher accurately described an atom by sheer intuition, and it was only thousands of year later we were able to identify an atom as such.

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u/SirPabloFingerful 4d ago

Firstly, that's a very dishonest framing of the title of this thread, and you know it is. It says that the artist in question drew the (alleged, probably fictional) structures that have been doing the rounds recently. He did not and there is no reason to think otherwise.

Secondly Democritus did not "describe an atom by sheer intuition", he theorized that there was a smallest fundamental physical unit, called an atom but his ideas about how they function and their forms etc were way off, and as we know, there are smaller particles than atoms anyway. I have no idea what you're implying by bringing it up.

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u/perennialdust 4d ago

Well even if Democritus did not explain it in a scientific way that pleases you enough, he was still onto something. This guy painted something a century ago that somehow resembles a "new" discovery. I also think he may have been onto something. Van Gogh somehow pictured the turbulence phenomenon in starry night.

Say what you will but art sometimes will be on point on a later discovery. Maybe just a coincidence, or maybe they pick up on things other people don't. Bottom line is we do not know and you cannot gatekeep others from theorizing in a way you don't like.

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u/SirPabloFingerful 4d ago

No, this is laughable bullshit. He was not onto something, he was guessing. There is no "new discovery" resembling anything in the painting. The painting resembles a different work of fiction that has been circulated amongst dumbasses who think they're qualified to question people who aren't.

You only lower your own credibility by twisting in the wind to defend this kind of lie. No wonder half of these threads are filled with tinfoil hat gifs.

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u/Gem420 4d ago

Look man, what I am really trying to say is:

If we put it all together and get a rough story out of it, and then we get Nicholas Cage, we can have National Treasure 2: Pyramid Boogaloo

And I am here for it. I will pay to see that film.

So, let people dream. We might get some epic entertainment out of it.

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u/SirPabloFingerful 4d ago

Cool, at least you acknowledge this as a work of fiction, unlike the person who lied when titling the thread 👍

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u/Gem420 4d ago

People are downvoting a winning movie idea.

Lord have mercy.

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u/littleking12 4d ago

When the "qualified experts" refuse to look at new information they are no longer qualified or experts.

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u/SirPabloFingerful 3d ago

This is just entirely silly and wrong

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u/Easy_Insurance_8738 4d ago

Dude you have no credibility here I wouldn’t keep arguing because you can’t prove otherwise. Just seems full of piss and vinegar marveling at your own intelligence. Be well

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u/SirPabloFingerful 4d ago

To have credibility in this sub I would need a severe head injury, clearly

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u/sheev4senate420 3d ago

I'm with you man, these people are ridiculous lol it's a pretty sweet painting and that's it. It always seems like every few years there's some new crackpot theory about the pyramids. How long do you think it will be til ancient aliens picks this one up lol

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u/Emotional_Hour1317 4d ago

Are you implying that the monkeys typing Shakespeare are inspired writers when they eventually produce Hamlet?

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u/GreatCaesarGhost 4d ago

When people lack common sense and fall prey to delusional thinking, it can affect us all. Especially when they start voting on those beliefs or are placed in positions of power (military, public health, education, etc.).

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u/perennialdust 4d ago

The type of people doing this across all subreddits is increasing too much lately.

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u/Gem420 4d ago

My god. Am I the only one seeing a full length feature film starring Nicholas Cage here? Please someone find the blockbuster film in this!

We need new ideas for films, and the pyramids just gave it to us.

Do Not Sit On It!

There is money to be made here!!

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u/honkimon 4d ago

He was also an abstract surrealist painter. Why is this sub getting inundated with so much grift all the time?

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff 4d ago

Whats up with redditors and the word "grift".

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u/Fonz_72 3d ago

It's popular. They don't fully understand what it means. Kind of like all the people who use "woke"

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff 3d ago

I guess calling everyone i dont like a “fascist” went out of style. I gotta get with the times!

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u/Lov3MyLife 4d ago

You even know what grift means?

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u/creativestl 4d ago

Does OP also host a 3 card monty game somewhere?

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u/CarlShadowJung 4d ago

Did you look into it or are you just being arrogant with your assumption? It’s a strange thing to just assume you understand the intentions of the artist. Most amazing moments in history start out seeming unlikely. This is why they become amazing moments. This isn’t to say this painting is for sure depicting reality, but rather a suggestion that if curious you’d do right by yourself to not dismiss so abruptly. If such a pattern continues then you are sure to remove all the possibility of wonder through your life.

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u/Abel_Table 4d ago

Conspiracy theories are coming out to be true nowadays

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u/perennialdust 4d ago

Exactly, so many of them have been confirmed much much later and people still act as if entertaining one is so far fetched and stupid. The stupid ones are them for conforming to what mainstream narratives dictate without actually being true

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u/ZARDOZ4972 3d ago

Exactly, so many of them have been confirmed much much later

Can you name a few?

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u/SirPabloFingerful 4d ago

"so many of them": none of them

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u/perennialdust 3d ago

Stay in denial, have fun

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u/GreatCaesarGhost 4d ago

Just like all of those random pictures of wall art/carvings from different civilizations that people are supposed to infer are evidence of some ancient worldwide civilization (that never bothered to announce itself any other way).

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff 4d ago

 to the imaginings of a conspiracy theorist

Wasnt this idea put forth by some university professor that specializes in the use of Synthetic Apreture Radar and Doppler Technology?

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u/SirPabloFingerful 3d ago

No

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u/reddit_has_fallenoff 3d ago

Actually it was.

 Filippo Biondi of the University of Strathclyde, used Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) tomography to scan the Khafre Pyramid and uncovered what they claim is an extensive underground system stretching miles beneath the three major pyramids of Giza.

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u/SirPabloFingerful 3d ago

You are conflating actual scan data with this nonsense that I am actually referring to and which was not part of the results of the study, you dipshit

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u/fun_guess 3d ago

Nay sayers are the bane of my existence.

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u/SchizoidRainbow 4d ago

Except it’s not so vague. Pretty weirdly specific at that.

Like the Naqada ostrich shell with three triangles and a squiggle on it is vague. I mean it could represent the pyramids and Nile, it certainly is not representative of Mt Rushmore or the Eiffel Tower , but that is still very vague.

This here is pyramids under other pyramids taking lightning bolts to the peak with huge vertical pillars round them. That’s not so vague in this case. That’s kind of weirdly exact for this particular PowerPlant theory. 

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u/Vast_Ingenuity_9222 4d ago edited 2d ago

If we are to take a painting literally there are pyramids under the pyramids then? An ancient culture excavated millions of cubic tonnes of sand, set it aside somewhere close by even though it would have been a sand mountain, dug out sandstone bedrock over a massive area, quarried stone and transported it along The Nile, excavated another ramp or built a pulley system to lower each block into the pit, did that for 3 pyramids (over how many lifetimes and how many people?), filled in the sand, built a foundation over the subterranean pyramids to take the weight of the surface pyramids. then repeated most of the steps to biild 3 pyramids again on top? Are you aware of how much area is covered by The Pyramids?

I have a painting by Hieronymous Bosch. What he painted must have been real, then?

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u/Jaguar_EBRC_6x6 3d ago

LITHUANIA MENTIONED!!! 🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🔥🔥RAAAHH

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u/Terptoy24 4d ago

it will be revealed that they were in fact POWER PLANTS using the earth's natural force, just like tesla said and will be using in the very near future when the dumbasses let us!!

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u/0rdn 3d ago

Yeah, and you will still be paying bills to use it

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u/Substantial_System66 3d ago

There are power plants that use the earth’s natural forces. They’re called geothermal and hydroelectric. They make up about 17% of all energy production. They even built one in Egypt!

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u/PlayNicePlayCrazy 4d ago

What do you think about the paintings in the Sonata of the Pyramids series he did and what do they show?

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u/LightYagamiChan 3d ago

Gold Tips!

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u/bruderbond 3d ago

A channel I listen to (Kryon) said once that Egypt had electricity, street lamps etc

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u/MnRFun 3d ago

Our history is in our DNA we just don’t know how to read the data

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u/peeper_tom 3d ago

Seems more to me like a perspective across uneven terrain. Its not a cross section.

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u/salacious_sonogram 3d ago

Have any of you looked at that research paper? All I'm saying is it's not intelligible to me how they determine where structures are or aren't or even what their shape is. Seems totally random when overlayed onto structures we already know about.

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u/MilkTeaPetty 3d ago

This is hilarious. This picture single-handedly shows a glimpse of earth before it even had a name. That guy remembers some of it.

Unbelievable.

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u/RevTurk 4d ago

Nope.

https://ciurlionis.eu/en/content/sonata-7-allegro

Pretty easy to search for this and see it's not true.

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u/Dragnurb 4d ago

What is not true?

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u/M0bid1x 4d ago

I don't know either. It says 1909 on the source...

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u/RevTurk 4d ago

That it's showing underground structures. It's not.

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u/Dragnurb 4d ago

It's art. Art comes through the veil to the artist and they express it. It is what it is and it looks likes those structures

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u/RevTurk 4d ago

I gave you a link were the artist explains what his art is about.

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u/Suitable-Lake-2550 4d ago

That is a modern gallery description of the painting, not from the artist himself 115 years ago

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u/SaveThePlanetEachDay 4d ago

Sorry I’m not seeing where the artist’s explanation is at. Can you quote the artist’s words?

I see someone discuss the artwork, but not the artist.

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u/WayAdmirable150 3d ago

its not the artist who explains that his art is about. these words have been written by art critic or art historian.

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u/gumboking 4d ago

Interesting that he shows what could be interpreted a plasma bubbles on the tops of some structures. He also showed the underground buildings producing a large spark from their tops. Fascinating

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u/vittoriodelsantiago 4d ago

This is proper sky color, as it was before the catastrophe which removed major part of atmosphere.

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u/roger3rd 4d ago

Cool painting but I don’t believe the claim is correct. The column features seem more abstract than literal. I don’t believe they are meant to be understood as underground. More like different representations thru time? Not sure. ✌️❤️

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u/imnotabotareyou 4d ago

Wow very based

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u/Media_Browser 4d ago

So not only guilt of bullshitting but plagiarism too .

Not good .

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u/BadChoicesTogether 3d ago

Cool too see lightnings over the pyramids.... looks like uap above that....... wonder if the pyramids were charging stations.... or maybe pyramids were used to put a charge into the crust of the planet to manipulate the magneticness of the planet....... very interesting

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u/Big-Schlong-Meat 3d ago

It goes back much further than that. Davinci visited Egypt and sketched the great pyramid with 8 symmetrical pylons.

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u/PointBlankCoffee 3d ago

Do you have a source on that sketch?

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u/KnowledgeSiphon916 3d ago

I see saucers

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u/j0shj0shj0shj0sh 3d ago edited 3d ago

This is interesting. Today I asked Grok if there are any myths, legends or stories of anything of interest under the Pyramids of Egypt - and I used the new Deeper Search function. But that was hours ago and it is still looking. I think it must have glitched out.

*Edit - so I just tried again and it came back with:

Yes, there are several myths and legends about tunnels or structures under the Khafre Pyramid at Giza, though these are not supported by scientific evidence. The most notable is the Hall of Records, believed to be a hidden chamber containing vast ancient wisdom, with some claims suggesting it could be under Khafre. Another story is the Halls of Amenti, tied to Egyptian underworld myths, also speculated to be part of an underground system beneath the pyramid. These tales are rooted in ancient lore and later psychic predictions, like those by Edgar Cayce, rather than archaeological findings.

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u/Responsible_Cry3978 3d ago

Wow this is deep…what if…

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u/Independent_Belt_959 2d ago

I love a good sci fi

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u/houseswappa 2d ago

He died 3 years later at 35 years old

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u/ChardEmotional7920 2d ago

Too bad it isn't real

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u/Kitchen_Release_3612 2d ago

Lemme save this real quick.

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u/vascularmassacre 1d ago

Beautiful painting 

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u/thats_not_a_d8 1d ago

Creating a circuit like in a fuse panel? A fuse panel is just part of a circuit. And if the pillars' only purpose is to ground this circuit, why would they need to extend all the way down to this crystal layer?

And we already know how to transmit energy wirelessly from Tesla's coil- it's no secret, it just sucks at transmitting energy over any distance, which is probably why his funding was pulled for his massive coil station.

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u/whyeverynameistaken3 1d ago

There's this one too with structures below pyramid (Sonata No. 6):

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u/SeveralAnteater292 1d ago

Could they have mounted lenses or copper mirrors on the pyramids to channel and focus the sun to melt gold or heat up water? Sort of ties in with Ra and sunbeams..

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u/Pure-Film-2075 23h ago

It must be true. /s

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u/CertainlyOtherThings 22h ago

Ciurlionis was a great artist in Lithuania and we still highly regard him. I would suggest to check some of his composition too - my favorite is "Miške": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzEH7xrmflg

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u/No-Break-2727 13h ago

Uh.... No it's not. Look man a child could see it's a layered painting, the concept is not new.

Look at the pyramid on the bottom right and try to explain it. You can't.

This is a dumb thread.

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u/Accomplished-Put8442 4d ago

some people are so desperate to believe they often overlook analysis

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u/Ironicbanana14 4d ago

So he was imagining that they play music through resonant tones of caves that connect with tunnels to the pyramids?

He painted the boombox of the gods!

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u/big_dirk_energy 3d ago

They extend down into the Inner Earth

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u/CliffordThRed 3d ago

M.K initials too. Like mk ultra

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u/TooHonestButTrue 4d ago

Additional context of the original story and creator would be helpful for the masses. I believe you but most won't. This link doesn't satisfy the senses https://ciurlionis.eu/en/content/sonata-7-allegro. People need to feel it in their bones to consider the possibilities.

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u/ContractOk9242 4d ago

It’s a description of painting by someone else, 100 years later lol

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u/TooHonestButTrue 4d ago

Yeah, it's not enough for most people, and this is coming from someone who needs no convincing.

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u/ContractOk9242 4d ago

In my opinion there are some old books or what ever source of information that Čiurlionis used as inspiration, and it was accessible in year 1909 haha

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u/TooHonestButTrue 4d ago

Egyptian mysticism points in a similar direction but it's only stories now. The truth will break free soon, people feel it, and desire more information.

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u/StrongLikeBull3 4d ago

And how would this Lithuanian artist have intricate knowledge of what’s under the Pyramids?