r/Asmongold • u/IllustratorPublic366 • 2d ago
React Content Female fencer took a knee and refusing to fight her trans opponent in a regional tournament at the University of Maryland.
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u/Brocky36 2d ago
Good for her.
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u/Samson_087 2d ago
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u/Mr_FuttBuckington 2d ago
100000%
Rabid social contagion. Probably demonic in origin if we're being honest.
When you go from having .0001% of these folks to one in every middle school and high school and hollywood parents having multiple in the same family - that's your evidence.
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u/Samson_087 8h ago
lol got account warning for so-called hate speech, which isn’t even a real thing because it’s completely subjective.
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u/WeeniePops 2d ago
They actually all need to start doing this. Every single one of them. Because if she just would’ve kept her mouth shut and fought the guy, even if she won, we would’ve never heard about this, but the fact that she took a knee and refused to participatemade it a headline news story. Women, please keep doing this.
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u/NorrisRL 2d ago
This is the way.
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u/MothsConrad 2d ago
As The Economist has mooted, let’s have a transgender division. Everyone wins.
Also how many women who transition to men are competing in men’s events?
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u/Legal-Group-359 2d ago
Zilch. As they know that woman would get mollywhopped into oblivion….which makes you wonder why the hell they even allow it the other way around.
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u/TheMasterOfUntreu 2d ago
there is XY and XX, + some very very very rare mutations etc.
XY > XX in terms of strength.now in general i believe XY and XX need to be separated in sports.
there are a few exeptions, most of them apply to XX wanting to sport with XY.example of XX and XY both being in a shared sport.
I believe that running marathons for charity should allow both XX and XY to compete in it.
my school has done this, where for every "X" distance there would be "X" amount donated.
here there is no competition, only contribution, therefor i believe both should be able to do so.
If there is competition by writing down the top performers it should have 2 list, one XY and one XX.example of XX competing in a XY sport.
I am XY and used to play soccer as a child in a XY team, and had a XX person on my team.
the reason i find this okay is because there where no XX teams, therefor its either not playing a sport or being disadvantaged at a sport. But being disadvantaged at a sport does not mean you cant sport, it just means you have to play at a lower rank/skill/strength class.I believe XX can compete in XY sport, not every sport because of boxing for example.
the XX must drop to a XY level where the competition can be fair, and safe.
I was in the 4 team out of 5 with soccer, with 1 being the best, the XX player was able to have a even enough playing field at this rank/skill/strength class to be a fair and safe sport for all.why XY competing in a XX sport should generally not be allowed.
Because XY > XX it means that XY have to be moved up in rank/skill/strength class.
But this would cause the top to become more XY then XX in a XX sport, i don't find this to be fair or good if there is no place for XX in the top of XX sports.there are times where i believe a XY can play in a XX sport, which is very very very rare.
If there are to few XX to sport, think of team sports, i believe a XY can sport with the XX so the XX can still sport. now i believe sport is about: "fun, health, fairness and respect". With a XY competing in a XX sport the fairness drops, but if done respectfully the XX can stil have fun, health and respect. But if the XY takes advantage of the situation then the fun, health and respect also drops.for professional play there should be enough players, therefor no mixing should be allowed.
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u/Hogesyx 2d ago
Makes you wonder why if they insist that there is more than 2 gender, why would they WANT TO EVEN COMPETE in a binary male or female event? They should fund their "own" events if they are too cool for normal events, otherwise a biological male in a female event is just literally being misogynistic, as they claim they are the one that determine how woman should be.
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u/General_Lie 2d ago
Well you can't win with them, by their rules sex doesn't represent gender. And that doesn't really neans anything because when you say feel like man/woman you are man/woman and nobody can tell you otherwise....
Which opens another can of worms. For example the "wage-gap" and inclusion should not be a thing because anyone can just claim to be man or woman....
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u/vikipedia212 2d ago
Omg I literally never thought of that, I can’t wait to start work and tell my boss, actually, I’m a man so I need a 15% increase asap! 😎 my first “big dick” move, heck yes 😂👍
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u/Nervous_Border_4803 2d ago
Nobody would compete in the trans division. The reason this is a topic is because men are clearly transitioning for attention and competing in women's sports to gain more attention and take advantage of women. Is our society really so far fallen that we are okay with actual sexual harassment and cheating? Just because some freaks are convincing people to mutilate their genitals?
This phase should be over for America. It's probably the most damaging ideology in terms of actual progress. There are a lot of debatable policies but dudes in women's sports is not okay. Telling children they are the wrong gender and they should be taking pills and slicing their genitals, not okay.
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u/Crimson__Thunder 2d ago
Why do people keep saying this. You don't need a trans division, trans people can already compete, in their biological division. People keep mistakenly believing that if you don't let a m2f trans person compete in the womans division they can't compete at all, no that's wrong, they can compete in the mens division.
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u/UnableSilver 2d ago
The problem is this MAN fencer, just like the only female NCAA swimmer with a rudder, have already tried the divisions they were born as and got trounced. Hence the move to women's division.
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u/genealogical_gunshow 2d ago
There are open (mixed gender) fencing tourneys they can join already. The issue is they/them joined the female only tourney.
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u/SethAndBeans A Turtle Made It to the Water! 2d ago
Yup. I'm very pro-trans. I support them and I call them by what they want to be called and all that other shit. Doesn't hurt me to say "she" instead of "he".
But there is no denying that going through puberty as a male gives an advantage.
Liberals dying on this dumb fucking hill is why we've alienated people into voting for a retard like Trump.
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u/Nervous_Border_4803 2d ago
Unfortunately we are in the age of re tardation. You can be okay with someone being trans but you should be upset that they are trying to enforce it into our culture and society. There's a difference between them existing and them being in a girls locker room or telling your children they need to go to a doctor for gender re assignment.
Even far right people do not care about trans people. It is simply that they are trying to enforce an agenda ( which has all but killed the democrats, look at them scrambling right now). You would have to be an absolute fucking dumbass who is obsessed with propaganda to vote democrat right now ( yes these people exist ).
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u/MoriorInVaine 2d ago
YES A HUMAN BEING WITH A BRAIN✋✋✋ believe what you like about yourself on the inside idfc but nobody candeny that no matter how much you believe that you will not shrink to woman size and strength and your dick will not shrivel up and fall off, we are not frogs. It is not natural for us.
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u/OutcastDesignsJD 2d ago
The solution is so easy that it makes it extremely obvious that this whole issue is purely down to people wanting to impose themselves into women’s sports. If it was truly about being able to play sports as their “true selves” the trans division would already have been created and everyone would be happy.
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u/WeeniePops 2d ago
There may be some, but you’ll never hear about it because they’re never going to win anything or even place in the top ranks. That’s what’s so stupid about this whole transgender sports thing. Men have so much of an advantage even women on steroids can’t compete with them.
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u/Bildunngsroman 2d ago
Unfortunately as history has shown, they will then complain why they are not being watched and why they are not getting as much money as male athletes.
Give not an inch to mental delusion. Fuck off, Bye!
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u/Soggy-Science2737 2d ago
You have a choice. Poke him in the dick, he broke the rules, you should break the rules.
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u/Ittybittytigglbitty 2d ago
You broke the rules, now I pull out all your pubic hairrrr. Motherfuckaaa
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u/Tsukis98 2d ago
Her name is inigo montoya you pulled her pubic hair prepare to die
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u/AverageBeakWoodcock “Are ya winning, son?” 2d ago
I do not mean to pry, but you don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?
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u/No_Preference_8543 2d ago
That's the sad part, he didn't break the rules.
The people in charge are pushing this woman hating nonsense.
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u/Mob_cleaner 1d ago
Do you not understand the rules of fencing? There's nothing stopping people from dick poking anyway mate, it's just not a winning strategy since it requires extra distance to hit compared to the forearm/torso.
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u/l33774rd 2d ago
Fuck that guy for making a weakly veiled threat. Pretty misogynistic in this case to use your position of perceived power to manipulate what you don't agree with.
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u/JimmyLizard13 2d ago
To be a man, play in woman’s sports, beat all the women there, get a trophy and feel proud of yourself, it takes quite a special person to do that.
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u/Firethorned_drake93 2d ago
Fuck people who allow trans people in women's sport.
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u/Samson_087 2d ago
I agree, and I also say fuck them for allowing them to go into restrooms that are opposite of their biological gender. I hate this shit cutting your dick off does not make you a woman same with sewing a dick on does not make you a man. Absolute mental illness.
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u/ChampionshipKnown969 <Special Olympus> 2d ago
In every competition where there's a trans MtF competing in a womans sport event, you must anonymously poll the women playing the sport to see if they are okay with it. Why is there a board that decides for the people that are actually competing? Same stupid shit in the NCAA.
We all know how it'd turn out.
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u/Various-Wave6527 2d ago
How long till woke mob ruins her life?
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u/FreeCandy4u 2d ago
Guaranteed they started trying before her feet were off the mat. They should probably start some kind of go-fund me thing for her because she will need it to fight the nutters off.
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u/IBloodstormI 2d ago
Just always forfeit. Never let them play. They'll stop joining if they can never actually compete.
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u/Negative_Potato_9250 2d ago
They don't want to compete, not really.
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u/fesakferrell 2d ago
Yup this is pretty much the crux of the matter, rarely would someone choose to compete when they could choose to dominate.
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u/Askolei 2d ago edited 2d ago
Do you get that "black card" if you forfeit? I don't know what that is but it sounded ominous.
Is there any escape or are we all locked up inside the asylum?
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u/RentingFruit 6h ago
Competitive fencer here - yes, any refusal to fence no matter the reason (unless it's a medical issue) results in a black card (removal from the tournament). Ref was just following standard procedure.
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u/nilloc93 2d ago
what do you mean? They'll be named champion every tournament, this is exactly what they wanted.
Most of these MtF athletes were sub 50th ranking in their league as a male and then MtF so they can be #1, its smurfing.
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u/FreeCandy4u 2d ago
I thought about that because I want to say the same thing. But look at who is doing this, men who don't care about women's rights and just want to win. They would probably actually like women to do this to make it easier to win. They have no honor.
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u/Alric_Wolff Eyes Wide Mouth Open Hand On Face 2d ago
"There's a policy that says im a woman" This belongs in r/brandnewsentence
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u/Tzhaar-Bomba 2d ago
It’s a self report too.
His first card to play was that a piece of paper says he’s a woman, not simply stating “but I am a woman”
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u/LilMissBarbie <message deleted> 2d ago
Well yeah.
I'm a 38yo woman who goes to the gym regularly, I'm pretty fit but any 15 yo boy could beat my ass without a sweat.
No hate for the transgenders but the physical differences between us is way to high.
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u/BoroMonokli 2d ago
Anyone with 100% heart and lung health, anyone with less (ie valve regurgitation) will never reach the level of average.
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u/FriendlyBee94 2d ago
Trangenders should have their own tournament.
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u/vertigo9622 2d ago
Nah, they can compete in men's sports, as they are biological men. No need for another division.
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u/Bingbingbangbangg 2d ago
They tried that and were the below average athletes until switcharoo teams
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u/no_one_lies 2d ago
Literally the easiest solution to this whole debate. Is to keep women’s sports “women’s” and then just change the men’s league to “open.”
Anyone can play in the open league, if they so choose to, even women. But only women can play in the women league.
Bam. Done.
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u/YoSettleDownMan 2d ago
Men's leagues are already open. Even in the NBA and NFL, a woman could play if she was good enough.
I agree with what you are saying. The problem has already been solved. If a biological man wants to play sports, he should play on the men's team.
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u/RNZTH 2d ago edited 2d ago
They should be in the men's league. Men's leagues are usually always open for anybody, it's just that biological women can't compete physically.
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u/FriendlyBee94 2d ago
They fail in men's league. That why they "change".
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u/RNZTH 2d ago
Sure I get that. I just think they should be told tough shit.
I also can't help but feel like if they were put in the men's league they'd be so narcissistic they'd demand it be renamed to the Men's and Trans League or something stupid.
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u/--_-__Mu__-_-- 2d ago
Ding ding
They'd seethe that every time they compete it would say "Men" and demand a change.
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u/BearBeaBeau 2d ago
Truly stunning and brave. Clown world so fucked up that a top athlete wants to compete fairly and she is kicked out while clown world logic gives a pass to men in women's sports.
Truly evil what these "board members" are doing to women.
When people hate women and are anti-women's rights, it's sad to see.
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u/Ashgar77 2d ago
Funny how you never see a woman ever competing in a men's competition. It's only these situations where a piece of garbage wants an advantage over their opponent without any care for their well being.
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u/Trikeree 2d ago
Good!
That man has no business in womans sports.
I don't care if he feels like he's female or not.
And if he cared about the integeity af the sport he loves so much, then he wouldn't be competing against women.
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u/randomguyfromholland 2d ago
I really do not understand how anyone can disagree that biological males have an unfair advantage over biological females, it's just biology, males are simply bigger and stronger. It doesn't matter they are transwomen now, they have more muscle and it is not a fair game.
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u/AcanthocephalaAny634 2d ago
Per BBC
“Turner has competed in more than 200 fencing matches, including the national championships, while Sullivan, of Wagner College, has won 18 of her 45 previous bouts. She placed 24th out of 39 fencers at the Maryland event.”
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u/ZhaneBadguy 2d ago
"There is a Policy that says that I am a woman". Thanks for confirming its just stupidity and mental gymnastics.
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u/TheLeftAreHypocrites 2d ago
I feel like she handled that as respectfully as she could while standing by her morales.
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u/Greedy_Handle1054 2d ago
“Excuse me, referee, I think that woman has two swords” “No that one is just her dick, don’t worry about it”
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u/KrayziJay Dr Pepper Enjoyer 2d ago
Funny how these cheaters just keep popping up in women's sports.
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u/SubtleAesthetics 2d ago
it's so fucking stupid that we have to tolerate this stuff. I have a niece. She shouldn't have to deal with this bullshit.
"oh, it only affects a few people"
like this girl here, and girls around the world, but I guess their feelings mean nothing, right? I mean what the fuck, we have literal biological/anatomical proof that men are stronger and faster than women, it's literally unfair to have men compete with girls. Why do people ignore reality? Do people think Usain Bolt is far faster than any woman because the women don't try hard? No, they literally can't beat his time because of biological limitations. Our muscles literally work different (men have more quick twitch fibers, testosterone, etc).
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u/GnomeBoyo 2d ago
Less than 20% of people support trans people competing in sports but the people who think everything is a threat to democracy suddenly don't give a shit about democratic consensus when it's against them. When it comes to trans people in sports they suddenly sound like Peter Thiel when he said 'I no longer consider democracy and freedom to be compatible'.
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u/hot_space_pizza 2d ago
I have an idea. Let's have a safe space for women in women's sports! That's logical right? /s Good for her I only wish they all would take a stand against this madness
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u/Rancor_Keeper 2d ago
More people like this need to stand up to the sick people out there, infected with the Woke Mind Virus.
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u/forumofsheep 2d ago
Why do these clowns still think they can harass women's sports?!
If they would have any honor or meaningful values at all, they gladly would compete against men.
Bunch of low IQ weak bozos.
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u/Beo_reddit 2d ago
Great, now another talented and kind female athlete get's her career affected by some mentally ill idiot who would be 3 divisions lower in Men's category but tries to cheese through it by pretending he is a woman...
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u/Beerbarian87 2d ago
Well done to this woman, and thank God Trumps America is finally protecting women's sports
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u/EntropicMortal 2d ago
Yea, all for trans people and them wanting to live their lives, but as of right now the transition simply isn't good enough at changing the body enough to the level of a biologically born woman. Whilst this isn't the trans persons fault, and it's a shitty situation. The simply fact is... you can't compete against women until such time that the transition can bring them within the the competitive range of women. This may never happen, and that's just unfortunately life. We cannot allow women and women's sports to be dominated by trans women who have an unfair advantage. We simply can't. It was hard enough to get women's sports and competitions popular to start with... and it's still very difficult for women to get into and get funding. Now they have to compete against trans women who will on average always best them in every single way? Yea nah. That's not acceptable. Ideally trans women should just compete against themselves... but I don't think there is enough to merit that.
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u/Bundesmememinister 2d ago
Maybe all those women rights activists should stop swinging the rainbow flag and take care of...well, actual women
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u/hajimodnar 2d ago
Well played. Respectful and to the point without drama. Shows who the adult is in the room.
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u/Murakamo 2d ago
But I was told this is so rare that it never happens and that trans women dont compete in sports against women anyway and that trump was stupid for wanting this banned because it never happens
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u/Zahard777 2d ago
If they are so eager, then why don't they create a separate event for trans people only. Then everyone is happy right? women for women only, men for men only, and trans for trans only.
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u/genealogical_gunshow 2d ago
In Fencing there are Female only tournaments (which this was), Open tournaments that are mixed gender, and Male only tournaments. That's what she means by "There is everything for him and nothing for me" because this girl only has one option to fight fair competition and that's been taken from her.
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u/Smiles4YouRawrX3 There it is dood! 2d ago
I would have taken a knee too, march against woke bullshit like this.
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u/Whosyodaddy-Senpai 2d ago
She will lose 90% of her fake friends for doing this, but it’s the right thing to do to oppose the cult.
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u/strongwomenfan2025 2d ago
Good to see a sub where you can speak truthfully and honestly without having your posts removed by fascist MODs and Admins since anything that makes them uncomfortable, no matter how truthful it is, is considered transphobic.
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u/Euklidis 2d ago
Weird how you almost never hear about ftm trans competing in men's tournaments, huh?
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u/Genghoul100 2d ago
Now the Justice Department Civil Rights wing should sue the Fencing Association, and the man who handed out the black card for sexual discrimination in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
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u/1BroadLyte 2d ago
“The board supports me so go along with it…”
Yeah, ‘going along with it’ is not a way to live, especially when going along with it is believing a lie
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u/neversaynoto_panda 2d ago
Good for her; the subtle threat that the judge supported him is wild tho. Men have physical advantage over women, how is this even legal?
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u/Aronacus 2d ago
What an amazing cheat code. You can be the bottom of the male fencing league. Swap to a female league and suddenly top-tier!
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u/Antilogic81 2d ago
Why do we have different divisions based on gender in the first place? The only answer they can give dismantles trans inclusion. They have to avoid the answer and question if they don't want to give a truthful answer.
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u/Relevant-Sympathy 2d ago
Pretty sure that person competed in the men's fencing tournament a year prior
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u/ThatGuy21134 2d ago
Women fought for a long time to have their own sports and now it seems they can't even have that anymore. They shouldn't have to compete against men. This isn't coed
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u/amwes549 2d ago
As a lifelong Marylander myself I agree with her. On the other hand, going to college in this state (not at UMD, I wasn't that good of a student), she's probably going to get hell for this, and if that does happen, I feel bad for her.
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u/Kimarnic ????????? 2d ago
The moment a woman has to face what they created and now they hate it, what the fuck
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u/Goatymcgoatface11 2d ago
Lol hahaha The fact she's gotta explain that men are naturally better at sports is too funny.
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u/Tam_Ferral 1d ago
Pretty weak show ngl. As a fellow fencer, my thought is if you don’t like the person on the other side of the piste or if they do something you don’t like, just beat them. Unironic skill issue.
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u/Softandcoward 2d ago
I mean . I thought its banned already? Is it still not implemented? Did trump lie?
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u/TomLauda 2d ago
Liberals are fighting it. Until someone goes to jail, they will continue. Some day, someone will be hurt or killed with this bullshit.
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u/Softandcoward 2d ago
Sigh . What a clownshow . They cant even obey their commander in chief .
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u/NotoriousTiger DICKS OUT FOR TIGER PANDA 2d ago
They infiltrate the boards of just about every institution and turns it from the inside “in the shadows” so to speak because they know what they are doing is not something the general public would support if they knew.
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u/JestasPriestiii 2d ago
What happened to Women are stronger than men? Lmfao 🤣
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u/Onyvox 2d ago
Women, who have their careers on the line, are less prone to bullshit.
Especially when it's sports, where they trained for their entire lives and know what they're capable of.
The ones shouting about being stronger are usually the dumbasses who never had to even break a sweat doing any physical work, let alone compete for something.
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u/Ayanoppoi 2d ago
Are there even any competitions where men don't have an advantage over women? Maybe darts or figure skating?
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u/lipefleming 2d ago
I posted the same thing 3h ago 😂 https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/s/Fv6Lesf0l3
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u/AKoolPopTart 2d ago
Good for her, but at the same time, I think she could have taken him. When I did fencing, everyone fought each other, men and women. My then girlfriend consistently kicked my ass and I was built like a brute.
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u/Big-Pound-5634 Deep State Agent 2d ago
Much respect. This only still happens because people allow it to happen. Women who agree to fight them and then get obliterated are the ones who are responsible for this. Refuse to fight an unfair fight. Like this brave woman did. Either that, or suffer.
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u/Dunemosh 2d ago
I have no issue with anyone identifying as whatever makes them most comfortable in there own skin. I do, however, have an issue with a biological male competing in women’s sports, a sentiment a lot of people here seem to agree with. What i don’t agree with is the wording, just say “biological male” and more people will get behind you. Someone identifying as the opposite gender SHOULD have no negative impact on your life. You are not them and there business is not yours. I’m not going to go around telling different religions they’re fake and not real just because, I don’t believe it. Just don’t force your ideals onto others. That goes for both parties.
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u/ZumbabaMonk 2d ago
They are farming empathy why not just try hate when people not even trying. IF you loose it giving more point.
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u/SilverDiscount6751 2d ago
Pfffffff, its foil. Epee is better. Maybe saber if it has to be a "priority of strike" fencing.
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u/SpiritedAnywhere8405 2d ago
Maaan China is about to run trains on yall and you keep focusing on this?
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u/Scarboroughwarning Deep State Agent 2d ago
I hate to say it, but the ones saying this is acceptable, is women. I have been banned from a different sub (women focused). That sub overwhelmingly would say this girl was wrong to do this.
Then, they also find a way to blame the patriarchy. Deluded
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u/BigDaddyTug 1d ago
It really makes you think who's the woke person. The Libs sort of own the word woke and it's used as a derogatory term but in my mind the real woke person is the lady that takes the knee because she's woke to the fact of the asinine behaviors of males who want to be girls who can't win in male dominated sports so they have to invade the female sport. I stand with this woman young lady.
Similar recent news Was a young lady that did this with disk golf. Her name was Abbie Wilson. All I Have is a Facebook vidlink https://www.facebook.com/reel/2695749927285314
This needs to be common practice for females. It's the only way to clean this mess up. Men vocalizing about it have been castrated by the pink and blue haired cat ladies.
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u/Unfair-Secretary-391 18h ago
Just imagine that you are training for YEARS, and at the end, a dude who is bad in men’s sports competes against you, just because he's pretending to be a woman now.
It's very funny to me how liberals HATE religion (but not Islam), because religion gives men more power over women, and they're chanting "women's rights" while letting men pretending to be women rule over them.
After all, the Bible in Genesis 3:16 says:
I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.
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u/Jiggle_Junkie 12h ago
Seems like a non issue for fencing tbh, not exactly a strength based sport, which is proven by the fact that her opponet finished like 30th in that tournament where everyone else was a woman.
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u/gamesetdev 8h ago
Does this disadvantage women face with men only apply in sports? How is the whole equity crusade working out now?
Can men have their spaces back yet?
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u/PirateRizz 2d ago
THE WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY