r/Asmongold • u/ahjolinna <message deleted> • 19h ago
Discussion EU admits climate funds where used against conseratives
The EU Commission admits that part of the LIFE program funds went to environmental organizations that used the funding to smear and undermine political opponents – particularly conservatives and EU critics. This was not officially permitted, but it happened nonetheless.
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u/Pryamus 19h ago
Is she going to be on trial for that like Le Pen?
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u/cyberninja1982 18h ago
Press X for doubt.
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u/Fzrit 12h ago edited 3h ago
If they actually broke the law, the accusers need to present the evidence in court under oath. Lets see some actions and consequences beyond just tweets.
Otherwise it's no different than what Musk and Trump do - tweet for months about how they found blatant corruption, illegal activity, fraud, etc...but avoid making any those claims under oath in court, because there they would be held accountable for their claims and would actually have to present evidence.
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u/PikaPikaDude 18h ago
They only misappropriated funds and committed fraud and forgery on subsidy submissions and neglected to follow the auditing rules to prevent that.
You can't expect the regime to be held accountable for that. Now stop spreading fake news and hate speech or they'll fine Reddit a billion euros for letting you say this.
Not /s, but /eu
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u/Firethorned_drake93 18h ago
Highly doubt it. Rules for thee, but not for me, after all.
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u/gaijoan Dr Pepper Enjoyer 17h ago
These are people who decided that their own salaries should be tax free nd inflation protected btw, along with various extra compensations in the absurd. I'm not surprised in the least by this.
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u/357-Magnum-CCW $2 Steak Eater 14h ago
I too would like to decide my salary to be tax free.
Who do I ask for this?
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u/gadhar321 17h ago
I mean since their salaries are paid by taxes, doesnt it make sense that its tax free?
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u/Altruistic-Rice5514 16h ago
The US Military is paid in full by taxes, and they have to pay taxes on that money. The other Government employees are paid by tax payers and they have to pay taxes on their salaries.
So NO their pay shouldn't be tax free if no one else's is. And only "thier" money is inflation protected.
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u/gadhar321 7h ago
I know there are government employees that pay taxes, but I dont really get why, since they effectively just pay their own salary. So why bother?
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u/Let_s_plaj_YOYO 2h ago
Your taxes goes to more stuff than just paying salaries, I hope you know that
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u/Hodorous 13h ago
No way. She already got that trophy position by fucking up Germany
2019:
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-scandal-hanging-over-ursula-von-der-leyen/
2021:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizergate
It's so fun when total political failures are awarded like that. My country's old Prime minister who basically set foundations of our economic ruin got an award position from EU(Jyrki Katainen). over ten years of silence and he comes up like a hero when he aproved new plastic bottle caps... To me it seems like bureacrats send our worst to Bryssels and then expect good results?
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u/EntropicMortal 18h ago
.... Le Pen isn't part of the European Commission. She's not being tried by the EU either.
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u/koffee_addict 18h ago
You get the point tho. Will there be consequences for this woman? Guess not.
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u/Intreductor 18h ago
Now that they admitted to it, EPPO might start something. EU has its own judicial mechanisms.
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u/Fragrant_Strategy_15 17h ago
I'm pretty sure she got convicted for crimes related to the European Parliament.
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u/outroroubado 16h ago
For paying staff with EU money to work on stuff unrelated to the European Parliament.
Since in this case funds where also being used for things unrelated to what they were atributted for surely the punishment will be similar.
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u/danielansa86 17h ago
Source?
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u/InternationalGas9837 “Are ya winning, son?” 12h ago
You think you can just lie on the internet or something?..1..
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u/The_Guy_v2 3h ago
It is a fair question as Visegrad 24 seems to have published some fake news in the past.
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u/Germanaboo 7h ago edited 7h ago
This German tabloid is the only thing I could find about this specific case. Couldn't confirm whether it's true or fake news tough. However there were many other corruption scandals concerning Leyen which were proofen.
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u/Amzer23 17h ago
Because no one seems to read, this twitter account has NO source for what they post and has consistently made false claims, such as:
- Reporting that Leonardo DiCaprio donated $10m to Ukraine
- Posted a video claiming it was a recently mobilised Russian solder (it was from 2021)
- Misrepresented footage of Wigan Athletic football fans as showing Ukrainians celebrating the country's attack on the Kerch bridge.
- Posting a video that it claimed to show a pro-Hamas demonstration in Barcelona, Spain. Snopes found that the video showed authentic footage of a pro-Palestinian demonstration, but none of the demonstrators had openly expressed support for Hamas.
- claimed without evidence that the Taliban had asked the Iranian, Iraqi and Jordanian governments for passage to join with Hamas.
- In February 2024, Visegrád 24 posted a video of a controlled demolition in Turkey that it claimed to show a mosque being demolished in China.
Guys, come on, be better.
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u/Imperce110 13h ago
I was literally about to ask where the source for this comes from, because i couldn't find anything on it from googling
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u/InternationalGas9837 “Are ya winning, son?” 12h ago
Well the source of the image is this video from two days ago, but as far as an actual article like implied in the OP I don't see it.
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u/Lendarioman 6h ago
And that video states that nowhere... Edit, I mean about what the op stated.
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u/InternationalGas9837 “Are ya winning, son?” 6h ago
OP linked the article, I believe, below...but you gotta speak German to find it.
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u/JuanTawnJawn 1h ago
Lmao you think cons on this subreddit know how to read an article that’s not about Trump or his cabinet being the best thing that ever happened?
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u/Casual69Enjoyer “Why would I wash my hands?” 5h ago
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u/Amzer23 3h ago
My guy, did you even read the sources that you posted?
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u/Casual69Enjoyer “Why would I wash my hands?” 2h ago
Top to bottom what’s the issue?
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u/Amzer23 2h ago
In the Politico article:
"The fact that the Commission gives money to NGOs and their campaigns is not shadowy: The Parliament agreed to it in 2020. By supporting the work of NGOs in Brussels, the so-called LIFE program aims to balance the representation of public interests in policymaking debates, in which the private sector usually has much more money to spend. Calls for LIFE grants and their conditions are public, and those 20 pages contain no sign that NGOs applying for funding must align with the Commission’s interests or lobby the Parliament on its behalf to get the money. "
On the EU website:
"Funding for NGOs is explicitly provided for in the LIFE Regulation, with the aim to improve governance of environmental, climate change and energy transition matters, including by enhancing stakeholder involvement at all levels, capacity-building, communication and awareness."
And Euronews:
"“I have to admit that it was inappropriate for some services in the Commission to enter into agreements that oblige NGOs to lobby members of the European Parliament specifically,” he said.
He gave no instances of specific cases – nor did Commission spokespeople when subsequently asked by Euronews."
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u/Casual69Enjoyer “Why would I wash my hands?” 2h ago
The issue is overblown yes. The fact that EU officials admitted issues makes the politico article seem biased but the contracts aren’t disclosed and the accusations aren’t backed properly.
I think it’s more concerning in general that the EC is managing the funding of politicaly active organizations. Thereby at least in spirit breaching the separation of powers.
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u/carcassiusrex Longboi <3 19h ago
Is she going to prison too? I bet not.
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u/kompetenzkompensator 13h ago
Von der Leyen (Christian Conservative) belongs to the EPP which discovered the "scandal".
"The former EU Climate Commissioner Frans Timmermans orchestrated the secret contracts with environmental NGOs." Timmermans belongs to the PES (Socialists)
But of course neither you nor anyone in the thread bothered to read even the x post.
Let alone check whether notoriously lying visegrad24 actually didn't "bend the truth" a little bit for their own agenda.
Or even check what the European Commission is, because the EC is not "THE EU!"
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u/carcassiusrex Longboi <3 10h ago
I don't care. No one is going to prison for this because if the EU has any standards they must be double.
The executive branch of the EU is not "THE EU!"...? Okay Hunter, lay off the crack.
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u/NextCryptographer6 15h ago
Is trump going to prison for rape?
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u/carcassiusrex Longboi <3 14h ago
Okay George Stephanopoulos.
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u/Intreductor 17h ago
After reading the article, what for?
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u/carcassiusrex Longboi <3 17h ago
That haircut to start with, also misappropriating public funds sounds like a good start.
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u/InternationalGas9837 “Are ya winning, son?” 12h ago
At least she washes her hair more than once a decade.
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u/Intreductor 16h ago
Funds weren't misappropriated tho. The commission simply prohibited NGO-s to use EU funds for advocacies.
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u/NextCryptographer6 16h ago
misappropriating public funds for good things?
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u/carcassiusrex Longboi <3 14h ago
so if Le Pen claims the money was used for good things she's free?
What? You thought your opinion matters? It doesn't. Every law you praise and use now will be used against you in time.
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u/b4k4ni 17h ago
Yeah, I wouldn't give too much credit here.
> Exxpress (own spelling eXXpress) is an Austrian online tabloid media outlet established in March 2021. Its founders are Richard Schmitt, who was also editor-in-chief until January 2024,[2] and managing director Eva Schütz-Hieblinger. Due to untruthful reporting, relationships with right-wing extremist activists, and other scandals, eXXpress itself is repeatedly the subject of other media outlets' reports.
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u/UpbeatDragonfly2904 19h ago
I like how the non critical thinkers are gonna claim they're only targeting the anti climate change people without thinking... maybe these smear campaigns had nothing to do with climate change.. Just attacking political opponents.
Funny how it's always in one direction on these things, tho.
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u/InternationalGas9837 “Are ya winning, son?” 12h ago
Since you're obviously a critical thinker can you actually link me the article so I may be informed just like you?
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u/UpbeatDragonfly2904 11h ago
No, you seem like you're being dishonest and just want to argue.
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u/InternationalGas9837 “Are ya winning, son?” 11h ago
The OP linked lower...I couldn't find it because apparently I needed to know German to find it.
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u/psichodrome 15h ago
you're probably right. But consider you might be wrong anyway
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u/UpbeatDragonfly2904 15h ago
Besides them admitting to it...
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u/capernoited 17h ago
Such a shame. You say something decently intelligent and then ruin it with one of the dumbest things. Like topping a sundae with a turd nugget.
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u/UpbeatDragonfly2904 17h ago
Have any examples of an "unbiased" government program that pays NGOs for a specific issue then only smears left-wing politicians?
How about any big corporations that have "glitches" in their software/product that only effect left wing politicians in negative ways?
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u/liaminwales 19h ago
Just going to drop After 'Qatargate', 'Huaweigate' scandal rocks EU: What happened to anti-corruption reforms?
The EU has lots of money moving around, money makes politics works sadly.
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u/Nustaniel 18h ago
Today, the European Commission admitted to financing undue lobbying activities by some NGOs with EU taxpayers' money. The EPP Group welcomes the Commission's recognition of this problem and its commitment to take further action to prevent such cases in the future and to strengthen transparency.
"We strongly support the LIFE programme and recognise the very important role of NGOs. However, there have been clear instances of misconduct by some individual Commission officials and some NGOs. We therefore welcome the European Commission’s statement acknowledging the issue of undue influence. It is encouraging that steps have already been taken to prevent such incidents in the future, and we also support the Commission’s commitment to introduce further measures,” says Peter Liese, EPP Group Spokesman on the Environment."The Commission has finally admitted that, "in some cases, the work programmes submitted by NGOs and annexed to the operating grant agreements contained specific advocacy actions and undue lobbying activities." Today’s admission confirms and validates the EPP Group's concerns about these undue lobbying practices. Thanks to the efforts of the EPP Group, the Commission now clearly states that any grants given to NGOs participating in the LIFE programme cannot be used for ‘lobbying that targets specific policies or MEPs’. The Commission has agreed to work on preventing conflicts of interest at the staff level and to review transparency arrangements. This is good news for EU taxpayers, for the integrity and balance of EU Institutions and for the separation of powers. It is also good news for those parts of civil society organisations that work transparently and fairly. It is in their interest that the EU Institutions ensure that all NGOs are held to the same standards and rules," stresses Sander Smit MEP.
Today's statement by the European Commission can be read here.
Source: https://www.eppgroup.eu/newsroom/commission-admits-financing-undue-lobbying-activities
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u/SomeSome92 19h ago
Don't get your news from x...
politico - Commission tells NGOs EU money is not for lobbying
Reality is a lot more boring. Funds given by the EU can now longer be used for advocacy.
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u/imgotugoin 18h ago
Don't get your news from x then you link politico.....lol
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u/emize 15h ago
Sign up for their $10k totally legitimate subscription plan today!
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u/InternationalGas9837 “Are ya winning, son?” 12h ago
Just use a fucking archiver to dodge paywalls you rookie.
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u/oldman-youngskin 18h ago
Oh? And what was it being used for before this? Would it be advocacy perchance?
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u/renaldomoon 18h ago
Its always a grand conspiracy with you regards.
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u/SneakyBadAss 7h ago
Vonder lyen is known for embezleming. She bankrupted fucking Bundeshwer at some point.
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u/oldman-youngskin 17h ago
No? I’m not out here calling trump a nazi. I’m not out here calling elon a nazi. I’m not out here claiming the nazis have returned and are killing people in droves. I’m not out here claiming the USA is deporting us citizens under false pretences. If anything I’m watching lunatics post drivel on the internet and claiming it’s fact. Then when something is posted that has merit, it gets shot down as fake because the wrong side is in the crosshairs… get fucked.
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u/InternationalGas9837 “Are ya winning, son?” 12h ago
I’m not out here calling elon a nazi.
This guy uses the term "Roman salute" unironically.
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u/oldman-youngskin 9h ago edited 7h ago
Me> gets called a conspiracy theorist.
Me> lists off a bunch of conspiracy’s I don’t subscribe too…
Also me> cops flack for conspiracies….
You lot are stupid….
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u/InternationalGas9837 “Are ya winning, son?” 9h ago
Bro...how you gonna format like that on Reddit and call me stupid?
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 18h ago
The EU Commission admitted that previous LIFE program grants were used for lobbying EU policymakers — which was never supposed to happen.
NGOs themselves confirmed their goal was to influence political decisions, not just support environmental work.
This change wasn’t publicly announced — it was quietly communicated via letters after political pressure.
Now several MEPs (EPP, ECR, PfE) are calling for full transparency and even freezing funding. So no, this isn’t just a “routine adjustment.” It’s about misused taxpayer money for political purposes.
So this isn’t just a policy change, it’s an admission that funds were misused. That’s why MEPs are demanding investigations, potential repayment... and quite likely calling for von der Leyen to take responsibility.
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u/Intreductor 17h ago
So it was the NGO-s and not the comission? Got it.
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 17h ago
sigh...It wasn’t the NGOs who gave themselves money — it was the Commission.
The European Commission approved, signed, and funded the grant agreements. That includes reviewing the NGOs’ submitted work programs. If those included lobbying activities (which they did, as now admitted).
which means Commission either Failed in oversight, or Knowingly approved political lobbying.
So the responsibility lies with the Commission, not just the NGOs. And who leads the Commission? Ursula von der Leyen....which is why many MEPs are calling for accountability
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u/Siegnuz 7h ago
Ursula use some grand conspiracy against conservative when she herself is a conservative ? Lol
Istg only far-right Germans or Americans for some reason view EU as unified lefties when historically multiple leaders are in fact conservative, just not the American or extremist kind.
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 1h ago
she and The EPP (European People's Party) is not a conservative party – it is a center-right, liberal, and globalist bloc who have been supporting EU integration (like USA), massive regulation, and woke policies..pushed the Green Deal and defended restricting free speech through the Digital Services Act (DSA).
And for years, the EPP and her has made deals with S&D (the Socialists) and Renew Europe (the Liberals), forming a left-leaning coalition.
The ECR (European Conservatives and Reformists) is the only true conservative bloc in the EU Parliament. They oppose federalist expansion, overregulation, and the woke agenda.
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u/Siegnuz 1h ago
Center-Right, By definition is a conservative, They even made a deal with ESN, the far right, just because they are sensible doesn't mean they're not conservative lol and for the record "liberal" or "classical liberal" is considered conservative, unless you're Americans or read into what ADF said too much.
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u/Shot-Maximum- 18h ago
Yeah, this is a pretty boring procedural story.
Some stuff was annexed to a Programme that was not allowed, this was then discovered and in the future will not be permitted and be put under stronger scrutiny.
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u/ethanfel 19h ago
I can't find any official source about this
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u/DifficultTeaching870 17h ago
It's because the X post is heavily spun, like to unbelievable level lol
Here is the actual story: https://www.politico.eu/article/european-commission-ngos-lobbying-environmental-advocacy-green-funds-life-program/
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u/haustorcina 16h ago
Politico is owned by Axel Springer, a German company that heavily supports miss imiggration and her party. You litterally just have to google politico to find this out.
While you are at it, check the public contracts Germany has made with Politico.
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u/darkmoor_ 13h ago
Well their subscribers are strongly AFD leaning. Their boss actually invited Musk to explain why he supports AFD and even though there was a lot of resistence in the editorial team they printed it. Their WELT.de chief editor Poschardt is a big Musk fan. If anything they are big pro libertarians. If you like the people Trump is trusting, you should feel at home in Springer medias.
They are the German FOX. So if that is not enough for MAGA you would have to look into alternate media outlets to get happy...
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 19h ago
EU commission own source: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/statement_25_942
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u/ethanfel 18h ago
the source doesn't confirm the scandal or that political opponents were target by the commission through ngo.
the Commission has recognised that in some cases work programmes submitted by the NGOs and annexed to the operating grant agreements contained specific advocacy actions and undue lobbying activities. The Commission has taken action to prevent such cases in the future and will take further measures to strengthen transparency and include appropriate safeguards.
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 18h ago
The EU Commission admitted that previous LIFE program grants were used for lobbying EU policymakers — which was never supposed to happen.
NGOs themselves confirmed their goal was to influence political decisions, not just support environmental work.
This change wasn’t publicly announced — it was quietly communicated via letters after political pressure.
Now several MEPs (EPP, ECR, PfE) are calling for full transparency and even freezing funding. So no, this isn’t just a “routine adjustment.” It’s about misused taxpayer money for political purposes.
So this isn’t just a policy change, it’s an admission that funds were misused. That’s why MEPs are demanding investigations, potential repayment... and quite likely calling for von der Leyen to take responsibility.
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u/ethanfel 18h ago
My issue is that that's a big divide between Von der Leyen being directly involved like Op is claiming and NGO miss-using the funds by themselves
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u/renaldomoon 18h ago
So the funding went to them for other reasons and were assuming there's was nefarious backroom deal that the money was really for protests?
This shit is why I can't take conservatives serious. This is a ridiculous victim complex larp.
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u/ZhaneBadguy 18h ago
Cant wait for her trial... Oh.
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u/Nustaniel 18h ago
I can't find any sources that states Von der Leyen was involved. Nor all the details in the tweet. It might be a half-truth half-propaganda tweet for all I know. Closest thing I can find where she is mentioned is:
NGOs also used the funding to lobby on behalf of DG ENVI against EU free trade agreements with the likes of the Mercosur bloc, Hohlmeier said – in spite of the fact that the Commission’s own President Ursula von der Leyen has been a prominent backer of deeper trade relations with the bloc that includes Brazil and Argentina.
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u/-evert- 18h ago
So EU-funds we’re misused by a third-party actor outside of the EU’s institutions.
Fuck off Russian bot. The EU has never been stronger and more unified than it is now. It will keep on growing in members and we will move towards more integration, probably even federalism.
Anti-EU voices within the EU are literally less than 10% of the population.
Keep coping, retards.
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u/DifficultTeaching870 17h ago
This whole subreddit is ran by bad faith actors, it's crazy how many of Asmon's viewers are so susceptible to basic misinformation lol
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 18h ago edited 18h ago
Even the EPP Group confirms:
“The Commission has finally admitted that, in some cases, the work programmes submitted by NGOs and annexed to the operating grant agreements contained specific advocacy actions and undue lobbying activities.”
https://www.eppgroup.eu/newsroom/commission-admits-financing-undue-lobbying-activities
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u/joka_nr88 18h ago
at least some people with a mind here and not only bots and brainroted incels.
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 18h ago
also didnt just Southern European countries just block EUn defense plan/budget? because South doesnt care about the Russia issue as much as north-east countries, which has caused these EU countries to make their own block, will it become official soft or hard split only time will tell (depends on how well Germany will change, well if they can)
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u/Intreductor 17h ago
> Southern European Countries
It was France
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 17h ago
Italy is currently protesting it, and makes sense when apparently 62% of Italians are against increasing defense https://x.com/i/trending/1908637708030742880
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u/nightstalker314 16h ago
Isn't Visegrad a russian propaganda account? The underlying story might have legitimacy, but you are just being swayed here.
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u/Intreductor 18h ago
This is so fucking disappointing. It tarnishes EU NGO initiatives and puts them even more under scrutiny. Its disgusting our collective funds were weaponized like this.
The only consoling fact is that they admitted to it.
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u/joka_nr88 18h ago
how brainrotted to think this is correct. maybe read the originals propper and not X or other otherwise weirdley funded sources
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u/Locke_and_Load 19h ago
So is there proof other than twitter?
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 19h ago
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u/Due_Evidence5459 16h ago edited 16h ago
those are very weak sources you got there. Like sources bots would use.
The story is spun so much it distorts reality.
It´s sad this sub ended that way.
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u/Vegetable-Traffic536 15h ago
Fuck exxpress, that right wing propaganda shit spins stories the way it likes to fit their agenda
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u/amolakaloumpakoula 19h ago
nope
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u/SubtleAesthetics 16h ago
All environmental bullshit is money laundering or corruption, none of these dinosaurs give a shit about the climate. You know why? They are ALL taking private jets to Davos to "save the climate" instead of using a fucking zoom call.
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u/Gurdmungus 15h ago
Using climate funds to fund campaigns with green initiatives that are good fro the environment? Nooooo way
YAH BASED
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u/psichodrome 15h ago
you got some money to make a pretty garden. You plant trees, water them and all that. You want to make more pretty gardens. But someone keeps ripping up the trees and flowers. Would it make sense to spend money on a fence to keep the vandals out?
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u/realbtg 13h ago
it's so disorienting seeing posts like this on reddit. i just subscribed to /r/asmongold 2 weeks ago. it always gets me like "WTF, reddit is based?" oh no. only this channel. just wait till you get banned like /r/thedonald
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u/Cuggull 12h ago
The EU is toast, Ursula is one of the most corrupt politicians in the EU and has only failed upwards.
I laughed so hard when she said she was going to create a slush fund for remilitarising the EU.
It will be billions and billions of dollars that will just disappear.
Dont believe me, here are some highlights from Grok.
Ursula von der Leyen’s scandals as German Defence Minister and EU Commission President,
:As German Defence Minister (2013–2019)
- Consultant Cash Grab: Handed millions to cronies like McKinsey (where her son worked) in shady deals, then wiped her phones to dodge the probe.
- Thesis Cheat: Plagiarized her dissertation but dodged resignation with a weak “oops” excuse.
- Broken Bundeswehr: Left troops with broomsticks for guns and a navy that couldn’t sail, blowing €135M on one ship’s repair.
- Extremist Blind Spot: Ignored neo-Nazis in the ranks, then blamed soldiers for her mess.
As EU Commission President (2019–Present)
- Pfizergate Fiasco: Secretly texted Pfizer’s CEO for a bloated vaccine deal, deleted the evidence, and wasted billions on unused doses.
- Vaccine Rollout Flop: Botched the EU’s COVID response, leaving citizens vulnerable while playing catch-up.
- Jobs for Pals: Stuffed loyal CDU buddy Markus Pieper into a cushy €20K/month gig, ignoring better candidates.
- Huawei Sleaze: Let corporate lobbying fester under her watch, ducking responsibility as scandals piled up.
Corruption vibes: Backroom deals, erased records, and favoritism. Incompetence vibes: Military decay, vaccine delays, and oversight failures.
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u/BerkutBang69 There it is dood! 11h ago
Isn’t she the one that had immediate family that were nazi party members?
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u/kaintk01 10h ago
honestly i really hope europe began to wake up, its like they dont seem to see the major problem in which they are, they are all radically left, no place at all for any voice from the right and the illegal immigrant is taken one by one every country
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u/Xarnern 8h ago
So your source is a X account that does not provide any source where it got the news , it just states "breaking news" on anything and has many false claims.
omfg you all there are so cooked
I thought the whole the right use X to control and foster propaganda/misinformation was kinda of a meme because I did not think people would be baited so easy to believe anything what dudes write on a site with no evidence or sources to quote from other than trust me bro I am a physician.
Also Asmongold said to put links of articles not people on X if I am not wrong.
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u/untitled-zeitung 7h ago
Imagine an American scrolling X and finds a article about EU commission, but can't even point where Brussels is on a map
Keep it simple folks
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u/gabriel_laurels 5h ago
Ran this through ChatGPT:
Allegations of 'Shadow Lobbying': Concerns have been raised by some Members of the European Parliament (MEPs), particularly from right-wing groups, alleging that the Commission engaged in "shadow lobbying" by funding NGOs to advocate for specific green policies. They claim that these NGOs were effectively paid to lobby EU institutions to advance the Commission's environmental agenda.
Commission's Stance: The European Commission has stated that while it funds NGOs to support environmental objectives, it does not instruct them to lobby on its behalf. The NGOs are responsible for their own activities, and the Commission maintains that such funding is meant to balance the representation of public interests in policymaking, where corporate lobbying is prevalent.
Policy Changes: In response to the criticisms, the Commission has revised its guidelines, indicating that EU funds should no longer be used for active lobbying activities targeting EU officials and institutions. This move reflects an effort to address concerns about the appropriateness of using public funds for lobbying purposes.
Conclusion: While it's accurate that the European Commission has funded environmental NGOs, the claim that President von der Leyen personally paid for climate agitation against critics is misleading. The funding was part of broader EU programs aimed at supporting environmental initiatives, and there is no evidence to suggest that it was intended to target political opponents or critics specifically.
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u/sgtGiggsy 17h ago
Yeah, pal, it's the literal definition of nothing at all. They didn't admit and wrongdoing on the EU parlament's side. They uncovered that some of the money they distributed wasn't used for the purpose they gave it for, so they took steps against it happening again. There's NOTHING in the story that even remotely implies that the EU governing body tried to silence conservatives (especially since like about 45% of the governing body is on the conservative side of the spectrum)
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u/Garlic_Consumer 18h ago
I knew their whole schtick with environmentalism was BS when most of the relevant news coming from the EU were on either:
1.) Recyclable "wunderwaffe" projects that never made it past the prototype stage
2.) Shilling for Russian oil
3.) Mental gymnastics on the environmental friendliness of lignite coal, or
4.) Demonizing the nuclear energy industry.
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u/Kaionacho 16h ago
"Quick we need to distract our dumbasses from the terrible tariffs with more culture war - right wing propaganda"
This sub is so damn cooked
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u/Zaik_Torek 15h ago
Is anyone even slightly surprised?
They've created a narrative around climate change that you aren't even allowed to question or approach with skepticism without getting blacklisted, it's not like they have to actually do any more research on the subject. They have to use the money for something though, and aren't protected enough to just outright embezzle it quite yet.
Seeing as it has been largely political and barely scientific for decades now, why not use it directly against political opponents?
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u/amolakaloumpakoula 13h ago
holy shit the number of ppl eating up this bullshit is astounding tho i suspect they know its bullshit and just pretend they are that stupid cause the lie supports their world view .
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u/maxfist 9h ago
"against conservatives" my guy, she's from the conservatives. Conservatives have been leading the commission since 2004 (and you could technically argue that it was since 1995), conservatives have been the leading party in EU parliament since at least 2009. I have no idea why people think that the EU is some sort of leftist institution.
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 1h ago
she and The EPP (European People's Party) is not a conservative party – it is a center-right, liberal, and globalist bloc who have been supporting EU integration (like USA), massive regulation, and woke policies..pushed the Green Deal and defended restricting free speech through the Digital Services Act (DSA).
And for years, the EPP and her has made deals with S&D (the Socialists) and Renew Europe (the Liberals), forming a left-leaning coalition.
The ECR (European Conservatives and Reformists) is the only true conservative bloc in the EU Parliament. They oppose federalist expansion, overregulation, and the woke agenda.
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u/PrincipleTurbulent95 7h ago
Ah yes, visegrad 24, famous for spreading misinformation and russian propaganda
If this was true, what's so wrong with this? Did you forget that conservatives have been denying climate change for decades?
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u/tommysk87 3h ago
In fact, if you briefly scroll their x page, there really isn't any obvious russian propaganda. Do you have any source for your accusation?
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u/_CatsPaw 19h ago
The only one scandalized is conservative.
Of course environmental funds should be used against conservatives.
Conservative say there's no environmental trouble!
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u/Ganglyyy 19h ago
Well yeah... conservatives famously ignore and deny climate change.
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u/ahjolinna <message deleted> 19h ago
that explains why the money was also used for against EU critics
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u/Routine_Version_926 19h ago
That is pretty normal.
If you know that sticking hand to the fire will get you burned, but there is some imbecile that somehow captivated a lot of other imbeciles that say "nope, fire is friend, magnificient friend, never crossed me, lets burn the house", you want to make sure that you either convince those people, or at least stop them spreading lies.
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u/the400000 19h ago
Whaaaatttttt a government being corruptttttt
Nooooo wayyyy