r/Avengers • u/Solid-Move-1411 • 2d ago
Avengers Is Iron Man really the most influential hero in-universe in comics? [Marvel Encyclopedia New Edition]
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u/AncientAssociation9 2d ago
Just to be different I will list Charles Xavier:
Founder of the X-Men. member of the Illuminate, founding member of the nation of Krakoa, creator of Cerebro, Founder of the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters, leading geneticist and sociology expert, founding member of the nation of Genosha, Idealistic pillar and martyr for the mutant community.
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u/Clear_Thought_9247 2d ago
Not in the comics in the MCU yes
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u/Solid-Move-1411 2d ago edited 2d ago
In MCU, he definitely is yeah but in comics, I think one could make a definite case for him to be the most influential in-universe after F4 for sure
Founding member and a leader of the Avengers, founder of the Illuminati, 2nd smartest hero in the world, one of the richest people in the world (usually), major leadership in several events like Civil War and Civil War 2 etc. That's definitely a huge credential
Tony was the one who convinced Nick to become leader of SHIELD and this alone makes him insanely influential. And of course he was the head of SHIELD himself for a while too.
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u/Cute_Visual4338 2d ago edited 2d ago
I would put Captain America (Steve Rogers) above him.
Edit: downvote me if you like but the man’s a living symbol. The wealth etc is all transitory FF & Iron Man have both lost it before. But Rogers inspires wherever and whatever state he is in.
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u/M0ebius_1 2d ago
Definitely with you.
I feel that Cap could move a massive chunk of the super hero community by simply doing something, he wouldn't even have to order it.
To a lot of people "This is what Tony Stark wants" will probably make them distrust it.
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u/tilero1138 14h ago
Cap probably has more influence over individuals while Tony has influence over the people who can make the larger societal/political shifts
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u/Cute_Visual4338 14h ago
When there are enough individuals to fit the category to become a population it is not really different.
During Kurt Busiek or Geoff Johns’ (I’ don’t recall which they were back to back) Avengers run of the period Cap was The only person trusted by World leaders to assume unilateral command on Earth in a crisis situation to do what needed to be done.
The happy ending of Civil War in the What If storyline was Steve Rogers compromising and assuming the responsibility of keeping Superhero identities a secret because he was the only one that could be trusted with this.
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u/M0ebius_1 2d ago
He probably was.
I don't think post Civil War saying "This is what Tony wants" carries much weight.
Definitely weight less than "This is what Steve Rogers wants us to do"
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u/OrganizdConfusion 2d ago
Iron Man isn't even the most influential hero in his own comic.
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u/Solid-Move-1411 2d ago edited 2d ago
I asked a genuine question. If you blindly hate him without logic, then go somewhere else instead of ruining my time.
It's from Marvel Encyclopedia and one could for sure make a definite case for him to be the most influential in-universe along with F4
Founding member and a leader of the Avengers, founder of the Illuminati, 2nd smartest hero in the world, one of the richest people in the world (usually), major leadership in several events like Civil War and Civil War 2 etc. That's definitely a huge credential
Tony was the one who convinced Nick to become leader of SHIELD and this alone makes him insanely influential. And of course he was the head of SHIELD himself for a while too.
In terms of connections, he has most geopolitical spectrum. His company is spread all around the world, and every time he visits one of those regional plants, he ends up knowing some high ranking official in that country’s government.
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u/Skychu768 2d ago edited 2d ago
I would say so
In-universe, he is definitely up there along with Fantastic Four
Founding member and a leader of the Avengers, founder of the Illuminati, 2nd smartest hero in the world, one of the richest people in the world (usually), major leadership in several events like Civil War and Civil War 2 etc. That's definitely a huge credential
Also if I remember correctly, Tony was the one who convinced Nick to become leader of SHIELD and this alone makes him insanely influential. And of course he was the head of SHIELD himself for a while too.
Also I think in terms of connections, he has most geopolitical spectrum. His company is spread all around the world, and every time he visits one of those regional plants, he ends up knowing some high ranking official in that country’s government.