r/BeAmazed Feb 25 '25

Miscellaneous / Others Strength of a manual worker vs bodybuilders

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u/Kingsolomanhere Feb 25 '25

Not necessarily. I built houses and remodeled for 35 years and up until about 50 I could still carry two 90 pound bags of mortar or 4 or 5 fifty pound sheets of plywood. I'm 68 today and have no arthritis or any disabilities. I do love being in A/C in the summer and the heat in the winter instead of working outside year round

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u/Jiannies Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

I think you got really lucky- I’m 28 and after six years of the rigging electric department in the film industry, chucking around 100’ pieces of 4/0 power cable for 12 hours a day, i ended up with a bulging disc, sciatica, and now one of my hips is like two inches higher than the other one. Most of the old timers in my industry have fucked up knees, backs or hips as well

Lifting smart and with good form goes a long way but eventually the repetition adds up

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u/Kingsolomanhere Feb 25 '25

I'm sorry that happened to you

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u/Jiannies Feb 25 '25

Thanks man, I got the cortisol injections about a year ago and they helped with the sciatica pain tremendously. I loved the work so I’m trying to work back up to being able to do it healthily

I’m glad you were able to make it out without any lingering shit- that’s like the dream in these lines of works i know

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u/Kingsolomanhere Feb 25 '25

Good luck in the future

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u/Lowelll Feb 25 '25

My grandpa smoked everyday and lived to 92 before dying in his sleep, so cigarettes obviously do not cause cancer.

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u/gooblefrump Feb 25 '25

not everyone in a car accident dies

Car accidents don't kill people

👏 👏 👍 😎

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u/Kingsolomanhere Feb 25 '25

Oh they cause cancer, just not everyone. I knew a lady who drank and smoked up until pneumonia caught up to her at 97. My dad smoked for almost 50 years and never developed cancer. I was just anecdotally mentioning that hard labor doesn't always mean your body will break down

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u/imonatrain25 Feb 25 '25

Oh they cause cancer, just not everyone.

That was their point.

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u/Lowelll Feb 25 '25

The person you replied to already specified that they will "most likely" have issues caused by hard manual labour

"Most likely" does not mean "absolutely everyone always"

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u/Bug-03 Feb 25 '25

This kind of pedantry is why Reddit exists

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u/Lortendaali Feb 25 '25

People are going through Reddit with mouths foaming to find something to be pedantic about.

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u/Lowelll Feb 25 '25

Fair enough, but the post I replied to already was pedantic.

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u/Lortendaali Feb 25 '25

If you notice I didn't single you out or anything like that.

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u/Useful_Milk_664 Feb 25 '25

Actually my mouth isn’t foaming it’s frothing

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u/Lortendaali Feb 25 '25

My nipples are hard. Does that count?

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u/Useful_Milk_664 Feb 25 '25

Can I lick them?

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u/biggiesmoke73 Feb 25 '25

And their “most likely” statement is based on what? What they think happens?

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u/Oneiroinian Feb 25 '25

This is a logical fallacy. Anecdotal fallacies would be like if someone once tried to set wet wood on fire and said that wood doesn't burn because it didn't work for them. You just don't know the equivalent "wet" condition of your gramps.

There's a lot of science and evidence against you, also a lot more anecdotal fallacies that contradict yours.

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u/Lowelll Feb 25 '25

That was my point.

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u/Oneiroinian Feb 26 '25

I suppose missing that is some mental shortcoming of my own 🙃

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u/Kennel_King Feb 25 '25

It's called Genetics. The people who smoked every day of their lives and never got cancer, and then lived to a ripe old age are just genetically superior to the rest of us.

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u/Lowelll Feb 25 '25

What is said was meant to be obviously ridiculous, so your answer is kind of beside the point, however you did make me curious.

https://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/16/science/gene-factor-discounted-in-smokers-lung-cancer.html

It's an old article so I'd love for someone to chime in with more info, but this study found that genetically identical twins who both smoke are not linked in their chances to develop lung cancer.

So at the very least it seems that it is more complicated.

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u/Kennel_King Feb 25 '25

was meant to be obviously ridiculous

I understood that, But even an obvious statement can spark legitimate debate.

The problem with that test is it's too short. And it's really old, As we have gotten better at identifying genes we have found that maternal twins are not nearly as identical genetically as we once thought.

As you can guess from my username, I breed dogs, specifically German Shorthaired Pointers. We test for the following breed trait issues.

  • ACRAL MUTILATION SYNDROME
  • CONE DEGENERATION
  • DEGENERATIVE MYELOPATHY
  • EURONAL CEROID LIPOFUSCINOSIS
  • VON WILLEBRANDS

But in the last 8 years or so I have gone down a DNA rabbit hole The DNA test we use checks for 274 markers. I now look for other markers when breeding.

One of those is Shedding (MC5R) I like dogs to have the TT marker which means light shedding. Ziva has this marker, The first male Gunner that I bred her to had it. Her first litter was DNA tested and 6 out of the 8 pups all had the TT marker. I initially kept two males out of that litter, I keep in close contact with my clients. It was confirmed that the 6 with the TT marker are light shedders while the other two shed heavily.

There are 6 other markers I look for but for the sake of brevity I won't get into that

We also do echocardiograms for the heart and x-rays of the hips and elbows.

My point is genetics are a fickle bitch. to get consistency takes decades. The human genetic one is so polluted with bad DNA it would take centuries to clean it up. With dogs, we have a much smaller gene pool and it goes faster. But with selective breeding, it could be cleaned up.