Strength of a manual worker vs bodybuilders

[u/Super_Steve117]

[u/rendar]

This is the explanation, the human body is extremely capable of specialization. There's no such thing as """functional""" strength or """aesthetic""" muscle, it's all about acclimatization to stimulus.

The results here are answered by a lack of experience rather than strength. It wouldn't even take a few days to develop the proper form and technique. The bodybuilders are much close to lifting the bags than the manual laborers are to lifting the corresponding exercise weights. And the bodybuilders will be enjoying much better quality and quantity of life thereof.

[u/glengarryglenzach → u/rendar]

The bodybuilders are roided out of their minds, their quality and quantity of life are both garbage

[u/rendar → u/glengarryglenzach]

You have nothing but jealousy to make such baseless conclusions when the health benefits of muscle mass and regular exercise are almost antipodean to the health forfeiture of manual labor, certainly far more than all but the tiny number of outlying cases of negative health effects from steroids.

Here, have some sources to ignore:

• Sarcopenic obesity - definition, etiology and consequences

• Mortality risk associated with underweight: a census-linked cohort of 31,578 individuals with up to 32 years of follow-up

• Sarcopenia exacerbates obesity-associated insulin resistance and dysglycemia: findings from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey III

• Amino acid metabolism and regulatory effects in aging

• The underappreciated role of muscle in health and disease

• Relation of Muscle Mass and Fat Mass to Cardiovascular Disease Mortality

• Peak bone mass and osteoporosis prevention

• Low relative skeletal muscle mass (sarcopenia) in older persons is associated with functional impairment and physical disability

• Live strong and prosper: the importance of skeletal muscle strength for healthy ageing

[u/glengarryglenzach → u/rendar]

None of those sources reference my core point that their health benefits of muscle mass are negated by the harmful effects of the steroids those bodybuilders are clearly on.

[u/rendar → u/glengarryglenzach]

Firstly, that's not true, you very obviously did not read everything in 15 minutes.

Secondly, if that was true then this would be the juncture in which you provide your own sources substantiating your argument.

Thirdly, steroid use is not necessary for bodybuilding and isn't relevant to the original point of contrasting health impacts from bodybuilding vs manual labor.

[u/glengarryglenzach → u/rendar]

1. Which of your sources is about more muscle being better even if it comes from extreme steroid use?

2. Do you contest the point that extreme steroid use has negative long term health impacts? Happy to provide a reference if so, but seems like something you could just concede

3. Do you think these two bodybuilders are not on unhealthy amounts of anabolic steroids? Remember, you said these specific bodybuilders would have increased quality and quantity of life