r/BeAmazed Feb 27 '25

Miscellaneous / Others 96 year old speeder and judge

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u/theblazeuk Feb 27 '25

Government programmes are a form of community support. it's just a bigger community.

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u/Langlie Feb 27 '25

I'm not against them, but they can't replace the value of true community either.

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u/Condemned2Be Feb 28 '25

No true Scotsman logical fallacy.

It’s easy to say “organized efforts are good but they don’t have the same value as TRUE community.” It sounds simple enough. But then you have direct examples like the old man in the video. What value would you place on HIS community? They aren’t helping him at all. I’d assume you’d say that doesn’t count as a true community because they aren’t helping him.

And that’s the rub. It’s only TRUE community if it’s done a very specific good way… which is rarely done… & if it’s provided by the government it’s actually not as good somehow as that elusive TRUE version. Again, sounds simple enough but is completely unachievable in practice. The goalposts for “true community” can be constantly moved to suit the narrative. When a community is bad, we can just say it doesn’t count as “true.” Ignoring the real criticism to be made of human selfishness in communal living & how we might come together to combat that unfortunate reality in advance through organized social programs.