r/BeAmazed • u/Soloflow786 • Feb 27 '25
Place the surface of Venus if you haven't seen it already
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u/Neat-Individual576 Feb 27 '25
Fun fact : The longest a lander has survived on Venus is about 127 minutes before being destroyed by the extreme heat and pressure.
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u/finlandery Feb 27 '25 edited Feb 27 '25
Also atmosphete being sulfuric acid propably wont help..... you are being crushed, boiled and corroded at the same time
Edit. Fixed typos
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u/McManus26 Feb 27 '25
Don't threaten me with a good time
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u/yepimbonez Feb 27 '25
Death by planetary snu snu
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u/Handgrenadez Feb 28 '25
Step on me Venus 😫
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u/Money-Worldliness919 Feb 28 '25
This is why the aliens won't talk to us.
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u/Salute-Major-Echidna Feb 28 '25
We're the Alabama of the universe
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u/DookieShoez Feb 28 '25
Well……..have we tried crushing their buttholes with corrosion? Maybe they just need to be shown a good time?
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u/Salute-Major-Echidna Feb 28 '25
Actually, planning something would be fun. But if we took up a collection, maybe we can persuade them to eat a few lawyers or politicians. Sell them some landfill. We need ideas!!
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u/Level_Cover5303 Feb 28 '25
Being from Alabama myself, I can confirm this. 😂
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u/Salute-Major-Echidna Feb 28 '25
And I believe you deserve a bit better. Anytime you want to move north, you'll be welcome
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u/ShredGuru Feb 27 '25
This is what Earth will look like after runaway greenhouse effect gets us too.
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u/sillyslime89 Feb 27 '25
Downvoting his comment doesn't make it untrue
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u/Professional-Trash-3 Feb 27 '25
What makes it untrue is the "will".... there's a lot of possible outcomes to human-induced climate change. None of them are "we turned the planet into Venus"
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u/Livid-Okra-3132 Feb 28 '25
The truth is that we don't actually know what the complete outcome will be. Even now, things are happening that are well outside of climate scientists predictions. For instance, the last two years were actually far warmer then scientists predicted in their models. The latest available research seems to suggest that low level cloud cover is disappearing at an alarming rate. Low level cloud cover is vital in reflecting heat back into space while higher level cloud cover acts as an oven for heat.
There are so many variables that to suggest that none of them result in an unlivable planet is just as bad as saying that it will result in that.
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u/Professional-Trash-3 Feb 28 '25
Sure, but we do know that we're not going to make the planet into Venus. We won't have sulphuric acid rain nor a surface temperature of 450°C. That, unequivocally, is not an outcome from our climate change.
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u/685674537 Feb 27 '25
And this sulfur atmosphere is what makes it shine like a bright star over the western horizon.
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u/snoozatron Feb 28 '25
Does it also make it smell like farts?
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u/iJuddles Feb 28 '25
You’d never live long enough to tell. It’s unfortunate that some of the most amazing things in the universe can’t be directly experienced without killing you pretty quickly.
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u/Iminurcomputer Feb 28 '25
It makes me want to cry sometimes. Just can't wrap my ahead around some of the scales, physics, and the beeauuttyyy! It's not FAIR!
I really really hope that when I die, I get to just float around the universe like a galactic ghost.
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u/cohonka Feb 28 '25
I l really hope before I die we perfect the technology to upload my consciousness into a swarm of self-replicating nano-bots existing in a hybrid Augmented/Virtual Reality. Wouldn't mind posting up beside Venus for a few thousand years thinking up a solution to get in there long enough to experience a simulated whiff of that good ol Venus fart air
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u/Dr_Adequate Feb 28 '25
Sadly, the Venera landers did not include artificial noses. So we will never know.
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u/sirius1245720 Feb 27 '25
Ok thanks for one minute it seemed hospitable
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u/badass4102 Feb 28 '25
The average surface temperature of Venus is 870° Fahrenheit (465° Celsius)
The surface pressure on Venus is 93 bar (1,350 psi), which is 93 times greater than Earth's atmospheric pressure. This pressure is crushing and would make it impossible for a person to stand on the surface of Venus without being crushed.
Damn..
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u/testaburger1212 Feb 28 '25
So, 93bar in matter of pressure, is like being down 937 meters (3076 freedom units) down the sea.
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u/MrsAshleyStark Feb 27 '25
Also
Death by HSO₄ HSO₄ !
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u/Hollydrchem Feb 28 '25
H2so4
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u/MrsAshleyStark Feb 28 '25
I know but I “halved it” likely incorrectly.
Sounds closer to snu snu lol
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u/TwistingEarth Feb 27 '25
Hear me out, we create a Stargate with the whole purpose of siphoning off Venus’s atmosphere and sticking it inside Uranus.
I mean Uranus already is pretty hostile, so we could then replace the atmosphere of Venus with something more suitable for life.
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u/OnlyTalksAboutTacos Feb 28 '25
i don't think we want to make my anus more hostile to life.
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u/secular_contraband Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
I mean, that hamster up there seems to be doing fine. 🐹 💩
Edit: Also, username does NOT check out.
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u/FSDLAXATL Feb 27 '25
Yeah, just replace it's atmosphere. Simple, easy thing to do. Why haven't we already done it? Crazy man.
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u/dearlysacredherosoul Feb 28 '25
I think if we took 6 billion trips to Venus to dump ammonia into the atmosphere we could just neutralize it. Problem solved
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u/IamlostlikeZoroIs Feb 27 '25
Where are the women? Feel like I’ve been lied to
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u/_coolranch Feb 27 '25
Classic Venus guy trap.
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u/Meshitero-eric Feb 28 '25
All of your food is gonna come out fan-fuckingtastic from now on. You've earned it. I'm praying to the food gods on your behalf.
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u/XVUltima Feb 27 '25
Nonono, BOYS go to Venus to get a bigger penis.
The women are all on Jupiter where, I'm told, they get more stupider.
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u/s_burr Feb 27 '25
All of these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landing there. Cause of the cooties!
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u/Busy-Contribution-19 Feb 27 '25
Studies indicate that they do, infact, allegedly become quote “more stupider” once entering the orbit of jupiter.
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u/ForAThought Feb 27 '25
My brain is having trouble with how yellow that sky is.
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u/Sandcracka- Feb 27 '25
Acid sky
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u/r-i-c-k-e-t Feb 27 '25
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
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u/transmothra Feb 28 '25
I am the walrus!
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u/Zxar99 Feb 27 '25
Its crazy because mine isn’t, like its sorta what I expected. Like just looking at planet itself from its depictions we have led me to believe it might be yellow or brown lol
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u/sleeplessaddict Feb 27 '25
Must be in Mexico
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u/xdavidliu Feb 28 '25
or inside the matrix. I'm colorblind so don't at me if Matrix is actually green.
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u/theghostmachine Feb 28 '25
It's not that yellow. The image is edited. Here's the original.
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u/ProTomahawks Feb 27 '25
It’s not real colour. The original photo is black and white
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u/deadasdollseyes Feb 27 '25
Is it a reliable guess based on the appearance from outside (sort of the way they color telescope images?) or is it just guesswork and whatever aesthetic looks most exciting?
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u/ProTomahawks Feb 27 '25
From my understanding the true colour would be close but more muted, a lighter yellow brownish hue than the bright yellow seen here. I believe the image was reconstructed from many images which had very little sky in it, gives you a good sense though.
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u/dandroid126 Feb 28 '25
I can't give you an answer, but I can tell you that in true color telescope photos of Venus, Venus is nearly completely white.
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u/TomDestry Feb 28 '25
They sent a camera all that way, but couldn't spring for colour?
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u/gmarconcini Feb 27 '25
WILD to have equipment able to withstand the crazy harsh temps on Venus surface. Quick google search states the temp on the ground of Venus is 867°F (464°C)
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u/ProfessionalCell2690 Feb 27 '25
I looked up the pressure after reading another comment about that being a limiting factor in addition to the heat, and the atmospheric pressure is 92x what we have on earth, which would be like having the weight of a small car pressed on every square inch of your body.
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u/TheFeshy Feb 27 '25
That's the same pressure as being about a km under the water.
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u/MomentOfZehn Feb 28 '25
I'm American. How many bananas is that?
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u/niveknhoj Feb 28 '25
The surface pressure on Venus is about 92 atmospheres, or 9.2 megapascals (MPa) — a little less than 1 kilometer of water.
Using the same banana math:
1 MPa = 1.02 million kilograms per square meter
So, 9.2 MPa ≈ 9.4 million kilograms per square meter
With each banana weighing 0.12 kg:
Standing on the surface of Venus would feel like having 78 million bananas stacked evenly on every square meter of your body — all while getting cooked at 475°C.
(From ChatGPT, so maybe this is full of shit)
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u/MomentOfZehn Feb 28 '25
Don't throw Celsius in there, too! What are you trying to do to me?
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u/niveknhoj Feb 28 '25
That’s the fun part! At that temperature Celsius and Fahrenheit come together in a temperature known to human skin as “Fuuuuuuuck!”
After about 300F, I think, temperatures are basically “instant roasting” so it really doesn’t matter. Hotter may be better since your nerves may burn out (and/or you just die) faster?
Seriously though, I’ll always fight for Big C. I think it’s about 800F anyhow.
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u/LordBiscuits Feb 28 '25
Approx 4000-5000 bananas
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u/FR0ZENBERG Feb 28 '25
But how many washing machines is that?
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u/SierraP615 Feb 28 '25
You mean we should send a submarine to Venus? Awesome idea!
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u/TheFeshy Feb 28 '25
The landers were basically submarines. So when the Navy tells you that the air force has lost more planes in the ocean than they have submarines in the sky, understand that their score isn't zero.
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Feb 27 '25
The coolest thing about Venus I think is that there is a layer in its atmosphere where the pressure and temperature is the most habitable place for human life outside out Earth. This is above the acid clouds of course. The Russians made some significant observations in the 70s. It is arguable that with existing tech if humans had to leave earth in short notice due to a doomsday scenario we could live in the atmosphere of Venus on some airship like device. It's always made me wonder why we are so preoccupied with Mars over Venus.
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u/New-Leg2417 Feb 27 '25
I am now also interested in Venusian blimps
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Feb 28 '25
It would be basically like Cloud City from The Empire Strikes Back. Alternatively I think somebody pointed out that if you could somehow artificially force the formation of a really tall mountain, people could live at the summit.
Another idea people have is carbon sequestration, because most of the problems with the atmosphere come from having too much carbon in it. So since Earth already has a heavily vested interest in developing rapid carbon sequestration technologies, Venus would be a good test site for experiments without needing to worry about accidentally damaging Earth's ecosystem. Iron out all the kinks on Venus and then once you have a working system, then you can use it on Earth. And you get a terraformed Venus into the bargain.
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u/RoundTheBend6 Feb 28 '25
Proximity to immediate death? Visibility?
Mars looks like deserts of Utah or Arizona.
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u/Money-Nectarine-3680 Feb 28 '25
The biggest problem is gravity. Like you said, The layer in the atmosphere that is habitable has very nearly the same gravity as Earth. It's already hard to get off of Earth from Earth.
Imagine trying to stack a Falcon Heavy on top of a floating blimp and fuel it up, now double that fuel because you need to fight your way up the Sun's gravity well to get home.
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u/ryanasimov Feb 28 '25
I really enjoyed this book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18924814-acid-sky
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u/Adventurous-Sky9359 Feb 27 '25
Whoa so not like just one care on you but multiple cars on each inch that’s crazy to think about and hilarious to envision
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u/golgol12 Feb 27 '25
To be fair, the water that makes up most of our body can handle that pressure.
Space vehicles, not so much. There are voids in the construction that collapse.
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u/Nebuli2 Feb 28 '25
Or, to put it in other Earth terms, the air pressure at the surface is equal to the water pressure 3000 feet below the surface on Earth.
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u/Elzziwelzzif Feb 28 '25
Ill be the idiot and ask my thought...
If you make sure your equipment has "ventilation holes" wouldn't the pressure be a of secondary concern?
There should be no concern of living organisms, so you wouldn't need to have it preasurized. Like a plastic bag... i can poke a hole in it myself without breaking a sweat, but at the bottom of the ocean, where the pressure is a million times what i can produce, it stays in tact since its equalised on all sides. (Same for underwater cables).
Shouldn't you just have to worry about the heat and acidity?
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u/Dr_Adequate Feb 28 '25
Look up the history of the soviet's Venera lander program, it's fascinating and a great example of science learning from the failures. No-one knew what the actual surface temperature and pressure was when they started sending probes. They assumed about 200psi, 200 degrees F.
The first couple of probes used parachutes for landing. They were torn off high up in the atmosphere from the pressure, and the probes were crushed before reaching the surface. So the scientists adjusted their estimates, and kept trying. The next couple of probes made it closer but not all the way to the surface. So they adjusted their estimates again...
The landers that made it to the surface did not use parachutes. The atmosphere is so thick they just had a large metal brim on top, like a hatbrim. Imagine an old timey tophat turned upside down. That's what the successful Venera landers looked like. The drag from the metal brim was enough to slow them down to a safe landing speed because the atmosphere was so damn dense.
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u/gmarconcini Feb 28 '25
I’ve been following the StarTalk Podcast off and on, just watched this and equally blew my mind on the rabbit hole learning about this. Cosmic Queries - life on Venus
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u/hellodynamite Feb 27 '25
As i recall it only lasted like 2 minutes. Russian vehicle i believe
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u/Abject-Picture Feb 27 '25
10 Russian probes landed on Venus and survived from 23 minutes to 2 hours.
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u/itzagreenmario Feb 27 '25 edited Feb 27 '25
Yeah I'm not sure how long but it definitely didn't last very long at all.
Anyone know what the atmospheric pressure at that altitude is? (Not that that's the only thing that destroyed this craft)
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u/mmodlin Feb 28 '25
They didn’t even use a parachute to land the atmosphere is so thick. There was something like a metal skirt around the probes.
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u/Ronin607 Feb 27 '25
Not even modern equipment either, the Soviets did this decades ago. I'd be curious how long we could get a lander to survive today.
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u/Stamperdoodle1 Feb 28 '25
Not much longer. No electronics can survive in this environment - No shielding can protect it either.
Think of the monumental work required for submarines to operate properly, now add temperatures high enough to melt most metals and a corrosive atmosphere.
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Feb 27 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
Technically that’s a composite image from the Soviet Venera 13 probe.
Edit: Soviet era
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u/Berobero Feb 28 '25
Soviet
Feel it's important to note, especially given the events of recent years, that a non trivial amount of the engineering and manufacturing was undertaken by people from outside the Russian SFSR as well, especially Ukrainians
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u/hellothere358 Feb 28 '25
People tend to change if its Russian or Soviet depending on their opinions/ situation
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u/MackTuesday Feb 27 '25
And some of it is fabricated.
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u/ModernaGang Feb 28 '25
You're being downvoted but you're right. Venera only took b&w photos of the ground beneath the lander. This is a colorized "generative fill" image someone cooked up probably in Photoshop.
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u/aye_eyes Feb 28 '25
You're right but also wrong. This is hardly "generative fill" in Photoshop. This was done with extreme care and concern for scientific accuracy by Don P. Mitchell no later than 2004. You can read about his process on his website here: http://mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogVenus.htm
Also Venera did capture some partial color data which Mitchell incorporated into his final result. Even though this is a composite and technically considered an artist's rendition, it is most likely extremely accurate.
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u/StartingToLoveIMSA Feb 27 '25
I always wondered why the surface isn’t completely level, smooth, and flat from the extreme pressure.
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u/mkoubik Feb 27 '25
You mean like the seabed kilometers bellow ocean? 😅
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u/boringestnickname Feb 28 '25
Well, the ocean weighs down on the ocean floor, so I guess it all comes down to how compressible the different parts are?
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u/Corporate-Shill406 Feb 28 '25
Because the pressure is pushing from all sides equally. The rocks are probably a bit smaller than they would be at Earth pressures.
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u/HatefulClosetedGay Feb 27 '25
I remember this image. But I still haven’t seen Venus in person though.
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u/Pattern_Maker Feb 28 '25
Check it out if you get the chance. It’s lovely this time of (Venus) year.
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u/PinkRoseBouquet Feb 27 '25
Venus: yellow sky; Earth: blue sky; Mars: red sky. The primary colors are covered.
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u/redneckcommando Feb 27 '25
At roughly 31 miles above the surface. Atmospheric pressure is around 1 bar. The temperature is around 85f. In fact it's the only place other than Titan and Earth where a space suit is not required. Granted the poisonous gases and acid clouds might make for an uncomfortable time.
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u/PianoCube93 Feb 28 '25
At a temperature of about -180°C I would want a bit more protection than just warm clothes and a scuba mask when on Titan. But I guess it's better than the lackluster or completely missing atmospheres elsewhere that causes blood to literally boil at body temperature.
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u/Head-Growth-523 Feb 27 '25
The atmospheric pressure at sea level on Earth is about 1 bar, the atmospheric pressure on the surface of Venus is about 92 bars, coupled with the sulfuric rain and 500 degrees centigrade heat, it's a miracle the Venera probes survived as long as they did!
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u/randomnobody14 Feb 27 '25
Seen this with the exact same title on multiple subs today. Must be totally real people stumbling upon it for the very first time and definitely not bots.
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u/Kingkongcrapper Feb 27 '25
Everyone is obsessed with traveling to other planets, but even if you could withstand the heat and pressure it would be about as fun as hanging out in the middle of a barren desert.
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u/CodeE42 Feb 28 '25
I'm still fascinated by these. Like, that's another planet, a view no one has ever seen before, no living thing has ever set foot there. There's some rocks, there's a little cliff ledge, landmarks and mappable features. It's a place, that exists. A whole entire other world out there, time passing, wind blowing, unobserved and unknown to us.
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u/ExevoMortis Feb 28 '25
I love falling asleep imagining these worlds in the most mundane yet fascinating ways.
Right at this moment there might be some storm, geological activity and whatnot. Some cave-in of a place we will never ever see. Puddles and lakes of extremely toxic liquids that we can't even imagine what they hide on the bottom.
Planets, stars and object mind bogglingly massive or as "small" and physics-bending like a neutron star. The universe is amazing.
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u/Master-Future-9971 Mar 01 '25
I think the big score would be finding plants with plant or even animal life (alien).
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u/ReasonPale1764 Feb 27 '25
Our ancestors literally hopped onto boats with no knowledge of where they were going or even if they would survive the trip. Humans are fucking weird dude.
Going to other planets would still be incredibly fun even if they’re all “barren deserts”
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u/PM_ME_DATASETS Feb 27 '25
This is still the surface of Venus if you've already seen it. Also, why is this picture always posted with that title??
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u/I_like_frozen_grapes Feb 27 '25
Actually, that's the surface of Venus whether we've seen it already or not.
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u/DarthUmieracz Feb 27 '25
50 year old pic. If you haven't seen it yet, you are very late :)
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u/Rahernaffem Feb 27 '25
There are literally millions of 50 year old pics I haven't seen 🫣
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u/patrdesch Feb 27 '25
That arm you see reaching out from the craft? It was supposed to measure the material qualities of venus' surface. Instead, it ended up measuring the material qualities of the lens cap that had been covering the photo that took this picture. It landed right where the arm ended up striking.
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u/Flashignite2 Feb 27 '25
Boggles my mind that we can see pictures like this millions of kilometers/miles away and still it looks like it could be here to some degree.
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u/Jackdunc Feb 27 '25
No, I haven't, time off is so hard to get these days. Seriously cool picture though!
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u/brandothedrummer Feb 28 '25
how is this possible bruh, how can you send a picture from there to here how please howww
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u/elvis-brown Feb 28 '25
I have that very photo on my wall but mine has Russian Cyrillic writing on it. I got from NASA many years ago.
What you may not know is that during Cold War when all this exploration was going on, there was total cooperation between the USSR and the USA. When these photos were beamed back to earth Russia was not in a position to receive them so NASA did the honours for them. This reciprocated at other times when the US was in the dark spot
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