r/BeAmazed • u/Soloflow786 • 4d ago

Skill / Talent This sheep learned to calculate its strength to play without hurting the child.

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u/BumWink 4d ago

Similar here, I don't eat any animal that doesn't go out of their way to eat other living animals.

So the only meat I actively eat is chicken & fish, unless it's entered my life one way or another & going to waste.

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u/Donnerdrummel 4d ago

Ridiculous. Honestly, that has got to be the worst justification I have ever heard or read.

This looks like a moral justification for meat consumption, but written by a badly trained AI.

So eating animals is bad, is your starting point, and that is why you only eat animals that have lost their protection by morally misstepping themselves, eating animals themselves? But animals have no morals. You want to condemn a chicken or a salmon for never having been able to discuss philosophy? ....

What else could you mean? Is the reason that you want to protect the prey? But they're most likely farmed animals. They're being fed and eat what they have been fed. They might Not even eat animals, or have no choice what to eat. And If you're referring to the ecological Footprint: theirs is bigger than those of herbivores, so it would be easier to justify herbivores consumption.

Honestly, I'd be interested in your reasoning.

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u/BumWink 4d ago

I don't want to eat living things that do no active harm to other living things.

I have no qualms eating a chicken that would happily kill & eat mice, frogs, cannabalize, etc. or fish that practically all kill to eat.

How is that so ridiculous to understand?

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u/Donnerdrummel 4d ago

Because you are creating a moral dimension where there is none. For an animal there is no difference between an animal it feeds on or a fruit, because it doesn't know better.

The only factor with a concept of morals in the world of animal prey - carnivore - you eating the carnivore is you.

If you demand to eat a carnivore, you give money to the human who enslaved the carnivore and condemned the herbivores to be fed in by the carnivore.

In order to be able to eat the carnivore, you condemn both herbivore and carnivore to enslavement and death. You are the morally doubtful actor here. Not the carnivore.

Let me guess: you really, really want to eat meat, right?

No worries, I do, too. But I don't deny myself herbivores. Maybe take a timeout from your rule and eat steak, too, until you come up with a better thought out rule.

That being said, I think veganism is the way to go, I am just not strong enough.

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u/UrUrinousAnus 4d ago

Veganism is a lot easier than it was 20 years ago, depending on where you live.

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u/Donnerdrummel 4d ago

It is. The fault is with me, not with veganism.

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u/UrUrinousAnus 3d ago

If you ever decide you're ready, see if I'm still using this username. I'm the "help people on their journey" kind of vegan, not the "bully the meat-eaters" kind that are so infamous. I won't judge you. I'll just give you recipes and ideas for easy food.

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u/BumWink 4d ago

You call me ridiculous while saying I'm demanding to eat carnivores, which I never said, I eat omnivores which are not farm raised on eating herbivores, lol.

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u/Donnerdrummel 4d ago

Okay, that's even less straight forward, but If it makes you happy, bon appetit.

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u/BumWink 3d ago

Don't overthink it, it's pretty basic to comprehend.

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u/MasterChildhood437 4d ago edited 4d ago

I don't want to eat living things that do no active harm to other living things.

All animals harm living things. Every. Single. One. There is not an animal alive that does not kill a living thing for food.

You don't want to eat animals that eat other animals. That's the actual line you've drawn.

Edit: No wait, I'm wrong: vultures only eat things which already died. You can eat every animal except for vultures.

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u/BumWink 3d ago

Re read what you quoted.

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u/longtimegoneMTGO 4d ago

So, following that train of reasoning, the most moral option would be cannibalism, as humans do the most active intentional harm to other living things by a massive amount, no other animal even comes close to us.

Time to start hunting the most dangerous game.

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u/BumWink 4d ago

lol because that's logical & reasonable! /s

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u/longtimegoneMTGO 4d ago

I mean, I can lay out the train of logic for you, it's not a big stretch.

You say that you have decided that the moral way to draw the line of what animals to eat and what not to eat is to base it on the harm that creature does to other living things.

Well, one animal is at the top of that list, number one with a bullet. You can spot one in any mirror.

So, assuming that you don't in fact think you should be eating people, then perhaps you aren't in truth basing your choices on the criteria you claim to be using.

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u/ChildhoodLeft6925 4d ago

Turkey?

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u/BumWink 4d ago

Yeah I just prefer chicken as it's easier to find free ranged or welfare approved,

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u/ChildhoodLeft6925 4d ago

I can’t believe you’re actively being criticized by multiple people because of the choices you make. I’m reporting them all

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u/odegood 4d ago

That's why I only eat alligator