r/BeAmazed • u/Trustrup • 14h ago
Miscellaneous / Others Its never wrong to ask for help
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u/Darkv3ng 12h ago
Damn losing a loved one is so hard on its own.. Seven kids to care while carrying that pain and the kids going through it, I know that man was hurting.. That definitely broke him.
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u/Pagise 12h ago
Yes. The $10k is not going to replace his wife, his grief, his pain. But it will help a lot with smoothing life a bit that moment.
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u/confusedandworried76 3h ago
I broke down once because I was basically couch surfing and broke as fuck and someone bought me a gas station hot dog and a bag of chips for my birthday. I hadn't had any comfort food or all that much that was hot in weeks if not months.
Thousands of dollars I would have converted to any religion you asked me to.
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u/384736273 5h ago
I see him going through the motions with the suit. His wife would have wanted him to look his best. Put product in your hair, have a nice cut. Iron your shirts collar. Bro is on autopilot trying to give the love of two parents while grieving.
As a dad to little ones this is a punch in the balls.
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u/AveryValiant 12h ago
For those wondering, this is a giveaway thing Nate does with East Idaho news every year, it's called Secret Santa.
I think there's one or more very rich individuals who basically give a million dollars to the news station and say "Go find people deserving", so people write in with people they would like to nominate and they go around giving away the money in the form of checks and/or cars etc.
Some of the stories are so heartbreaking, but the reactions they get are genuinely heartwarming.
This guys longer video can be found here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91il61htenU
Main East idaho news channel here - https://www.youtube.com/@Eastidnews/videos
Sort by most popular or search for santa.
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u/leyla00 8h ago
That’s amazing! Do you know how much the check was for in this video?
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u/master_mather 8h ago
Someone said $10k
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u/Masherbakerboiler 4h ago
It hurts to think if the IRS somehow tracks these giveaways and gets to tax this guy and get their cut from all gifts.
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u/confusedandworried76 3h ago
As of right now you are completely exempt from audit for something like $20k a year, and the only reason you would be audited is if you're approaching the lifetime limit (rules say only a certain amount in a lifetime)
I also believe charity is exempt under at least one rule but it's been a while.
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u/AiurHoopla 6h ago edited 6h ago
I won't judge because its awful he lost his wife... but LDS church and 7 children.. He doesn't deserve losing his wife even for his faith... but I have a friend who left the LDS church and got cut from all his family and they basically threw him out in the streets at 18 with nothing because he said he didn't believe in some parts of the gospel of the LDS church. He went to (sorry I don't know the terminology) a priest? And he asked questions and was told that he was not being faithful and the person in question told his family who disowned him.
Still tough to raise the family. I don't wanna be heartless. I just have a bad taste in my mouth for it due to my close friend who slept on my couch for close to a year.
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u/Prudent_Substance_25 6h ago
You said you won't judge but then said he doesn't deserve the money because of his religious beliefs. You are judging. Your friends tragic story has nothing to do with this family. Bad people exist in all walks of life.
I'm an atheist, btw.
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u/AiurHoopla 6h ago
I never said he didn't deserve the money. I said he didn't deserve losing his wife. Sorry if that didn't read correctly. I meant he didn't deserve losing his wife even for his faith.
I just think the LDS is a cult that forces people to have many children and banishes people for questioning the faith. Ill edit my post. If you give me some leeway, my first language is french then english.
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u/Prudent_Substance_25 5h ago
No worries. I don't have anything great to say about the LDS. I just feel like sometimes we get too caught up identifying groups and forget about the individuals.
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u/AiurHoopla 5h ago
100% agree. I think also that if you were born in the faith it's not easy to just leave. Not everyone is similar as well and won't question it and live their lives. It's unfair to blame this man. I just disagree with faith taking stipends from your salary and imposing rules that destroy families. There are a lot of things in the world we can disagree about. Just yesterday I watched the one child nation documentary on prime and it completely devastated me how abhorrent the CCP crimes were toward their population. I'll probably never set foot in China again.
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u/1111Rudy1111 13h ago
We need more of this and forget our differences with people.
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u/twizzjewink 12h ago
We shouldn't need to have this. That's the problem.
Capitalism has warped our sense of what's actually right.
Universal Healthcare for all. Universal Education for all. Universal Basic Income for all.
Nobody who lives in a developed country should be hungry, poor, or unsafe. Ever.
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u/Just_Keep_Asking_Why 11h ago
Agreed on your points, but this is also empathy, compassion and giving... these are serious virtues and should be celebrated. I don't know if the guy was making it work or not, but this kind of action has two effects... one is essentially financial and when you've got 7 kids, that's a big cost... the other and equally (likely more) important is people standing with you, helping you, being kind.
We need a lot of that and we always have. Community is great. (So is universal health, education, etc!)
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u/TedW 10h ago
That sounds nice, but has any country ever done that?
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u/twizzjewink 10h ago
A number of socialist countries have implemented a number, and tested UBI.
The problem is that Capitalism drives the engine of Countries - and is the antithesis of Socialism. Now, you can have a socialist-capitalist society (which should be the ideal); however the evolution of socio-economics has to be inevitable if we were to break the cycle we are in.
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u/confusedandworried76 2h ago edited 2h ago
UBI is the problem though. It's not feasible by the numbers. Welfare is more important.
The numbers are always gonna vary every time I do this math but I'll use the figures I just googled. We're gonna round slightly down, the US for example as a country takes in a total of $5T in taxes, total mind, that pays for everything and we already typically operate at a deficit. Then we'll take the last population number that stuck in my head, 333 million people. That's a bit low now but again, I low balled the other number and most of those are children who won't be making an income one way or the other
$5T divided by 333 million is 15,000. So with the entirety of tax revenue every person is given $15,000
It's a good idea but the math just doesn't math, that's why it's biggest recent proponent, Andrew Yang, just took a media job when his political career washed. He was good on selling the idea but not good on the math. The entirety of the idea relies on all of the rest of government not being funded to make a good splash. You'll be lucky to see a grand a year if that and that's basically similar to elimination of entire departments in terms of funding. Or taxes have to go way up. Guess which one is more likely, taxes going way up on the rich or you getting a UBI of a grand a year?
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u/RepostResearch 12h ago
That all sounds great and all, but its not reality and almost certainly never will be. Everything has to be produced by someone, and nobody is going to spend their days working in the fields for free. No one is going to spend 10 years learning medicine for free.
If its the future you want, be the change you want to see. Buy a farm, work it until you get a harvest, and then give it all away.
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u/jinalberta 11h ago
We have universal health care. We have discounted education. We can have universal education for all we already do up to the age of 18. It can be done
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u/phintac 11h ago
Uhm... heard of Scandinavia?
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u/RepostResearch 11h ago
You mean the area with 50+% tax rates?
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u/ExplanationFew6466 10h ago
Jesus…… you just don’t get it… do you? They are the healthiest, happiest people on the planet, and all you can express is your greed.
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u/EarthDragonSirocco 10h ago
Also, 50% tax rate, and then you get a universal income on top of that. So the poor are more taken care of than the very wealthy. Which makes sense because the very wealthy don't need taken care of as much.
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u/IndigoButterfl6 2h ago
I live in Denmark, I make a good living and pay below 50% income tax. And for the taxes I pay, I get free healthcare, free university education for my kids, affordable child care, a year of paid parental leave, a great public transportation system and a clean city. When Covid hit, my husband's workplace closed for 4 months and he still received his full salary, 90% of which was paid by the government. I even received generous support as a freelancer. So yes, it does work, which is why people here pay a higher tax rate and are still the happiest in the world.
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u/RepostResearch 10h ago
The 50% tax rate isn't only for the wealthy. Imagine making $45k/yr, and having half of it taken to give to other people.
Sounds great. Doesn't work.
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u/EarthDragonSirocco 9h ago
The thing is. If you have free health care, so you're not paying prescription costs, or going to see a doctor, and on top of that you have universal income. Which means the person making $45,000 is actually only getting taxed 20%. But, the stupid wealthy are getting taxed 50%. And they get the same benefits that I do. So it actually does work. Unless you have some proof showing otherwise?
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u/phintac 3h ago edited 3h ago
First of all, $45000/year is a low salary here (Denmark). The average worker makes around $70000/year. At that rate you still don't pay 50% tax. You pay something like 36%. At $75k/year I have $4400 in disposable income every month and live a pretty good life to say the least; my education was free, if I get sick or into an emergency I can just call my GP or hospital without worry (I don't have to rely on a privatised health insurance company whose goal is revenue).
I would never exchange this model for anything because the standard of living is generally quite high. We don't have super empoverished people, yet we still have super rich.
Edit: I see you are active in r/Conservative
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u/Commercial-Result-23 10h ago
What issues are they having with it?
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u/RepostResearch 9h ago
Cost of living for one.
In Stockholm, the price per square meter can be as high as SEK 90,000 ($10,350)
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u/Commercial-Result-23 9h ago
Housing can be expensive in urban areas? Shocking. Do their min wage next.
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u/cthulhustu 10h ago
What you're forgetting is it's not all about money. You've been conditioned to think that way. Did you know that they conducted an extensive study and 9 out of 10 people said, if money wasn't an issue, they would still work, but in a field that is fulfilling and rewarding, such as healthcare, animal care, the arts etc?
We have enough wealth in the world for everyone to be comfortable. We have enough automation for menial and general tasks to be done without human intervention. There is no excuse.
What we don't have are people in charge willing to make the sacrifice.
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u/RepostResearch 10h ago
And notice how none of those fulfilling jobs include producing food, cleaning sewers, laying brick, or any number of other dirty/unreawarding/absolutely critical jobs that our society hinges on? Jobs that very much cannot be automated.
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u/Annual-Vehicle-8440 9h ago
If money didn't exist, I would definitely be a peasant. Not rewarding socially but it's got everything I love. And I'm sure it's exactly the same for every other "unrewarding" job. There are people out there that would love it
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u/RepostResearch 9h ago
So you'd clean sewers then?
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u/Annual-Vehicle-8440 8h ago
I would if it had to be done and if I get help doing it, yes. I won't do it as a full time job for sure but I'd happily dedicate every other week-end to it, in a life where time isn't tied to money and self worth to your activities. I get joy in doing things that are important to society.
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u/cthulhustu 8h ago
Producing food is very much there. It falls under health and people care. Plus how many people do you see that build their own homes and come out of it saying well, that was unrewarding??
Having said that, the industrial food production process we have now is almost completely automated and many of those tasks you mentioned are very much feasible when it comes to automation. Do you not know what menial meant in my previous comment?
No doubt there would be kinks to work out by people infinitely more intelligent than I but my point remains. Think of the advancements we have made and think about how many of those tasks you quoted are actually well behind the times in terms of efficiency and advancement and ask why that is.
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u/Woerterboarding 30m ago
I think there already is a social contract that says: "if you shovel the shit, we'll take care of you when you are injured, hurting, or in dire need." That's why many people accept these types of jobs as a necessary means to achieve some stability. And not everyone is unhappy being a garbage man or a gardener. Work isn't the focus of their world.
What we are seeing today however is that this social contract is getting broken. And it goes like this now: "Unless you keep shoveling shit nobody cares for you. Don't make a mistake, or have a mishap, or you will pay for it forever and be on your own."
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u/NoPhoto8598 11h ago
and this is why it will never happen, you immediately start off negative about all 3, when infant all 3 of possible. listen, we cracked a fucking atom to find quarks. yea, those 3 don't sound to hard if we really want it. let's start acting like we want it?
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u/RepostResearch 11h ago
Sure. You start. Spend a summer growing a crop, and then give it away.
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u/NoPhoto8598 11h ago
weed and strawberries every summer playa!
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u/RepostResearch 11h ago
Lol you grow those?
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u/NoPhoto8598 11h ago
lol, yes, everybody loves them
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u/RepostResearch 11h ago
How much of that weed do you give away every year?
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u/CariniFluff 8h ago
I give away like 2/3 of my crop and I grow like 5-6 plants as a hobby.
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u/Rootitusofmoria 10h ago
That's right, I totally remember paying my monthly fire department bill yesterday. /s
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u/InfectedAztec 11h ago
You need a society.... Not more charity.
In Europe we have social systems in place to protect those who fall in hard times.
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u/UX_Strategist 13h ago
As a man, I can confirm that asking for help can be difficult. It's not pride. Sometimes it's failing to know how to communicate the need, who to ask, and when it's appropriate. Grief can affect a person's ability to open up, because a flood of emotions may surface, risking embarrassment. Sometimes, we don't feel that we can ask for help because we don't know if anyone around us can actually provide the level of support needed.
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u/TheFightingMasons 12h ago
I just feel like I’m not supposed to or something.
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u/littlebitsofspider 4h ago
If I have a failing, it's my fault. Society isn't broken, the systems aren't broken, other people aren't broken, I failed, so I am broken. I broke. It's my fault I didn't understand. It's my fault I couldn't do it. It's my fault I couldn't adapt. It's my fault I didn't know who to trust. I, and I alone, have to own that failure. I must. It's weak and irresponsible and cowardly if I don't. It's compounding the failure if I don't. I must stand up, and take it on the chin, and sack up, and be a man about it.
Says the culture that raised me.
There will be a day, when I don't have anxiety attacks, about who I'm supposed to be. It won't be today, or tomorrow either. But some day, when I've healed up a bit more, and I can see the bullshit for what it is, someone will ask "are you okay?", and, with the confidence of the truth inside me, I'll say "no, not at all, I need some help," and I'll breathe deeply, and take what comes from that with a steady pulse and calm hands.
The Youngbloods:
Come on people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another right now.
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u/smokesalotofweed 14h ago
How much was it? Just curious. Dude seems like a really good dad.
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u/Emkay1411 12h ago
There are truly wonderful people in this world! Thank you to the Anonymous donor! Sending the love through the Cosmos!
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u/Mister_Randy_Watson 11h ago
Another shout out for Nate Eaton - he has done some amazing journalism on the Lori Vallow case, as well. He has not let up in getting justice for Tylee and JJ.
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u/filtarukk 11h ago
Just to put it into different perspective. The first time ever most men get flower appreciation is at their funeral. It is insane. Men deserve more recognition and love and help.
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u/otkabdl 11h ago
how did his wife die? "just goofing around" then "she was dead on the floor" seems a tad alarming
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u/Disastrous-Panda5530 8h ago
I watched the longer video clip. She collapsed in the garage and they were able to revive her but then she was in a coma until she passed in September. He said they just got the autopsy report and they don’t know what was the cause of death
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u/xShadyxLeafx 10h ago
I shouldn’t have had to scroll this far down to find this comment lol.
Maybe we watch too much true crime.
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u/Primary-Border8536 9h ago
That's rude. It could have been an aneurysm or anything. Women who have that many children tend to have some health issues. Assuming that is fucked up.
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u/otkabdl 8h ago
yes it's fucked up but not unbelievable. Blame society not us.
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u/Primary-Border8536 8h ago
I've watched plenty of shows like that and I get it, but twisting this video into that is sad for me
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u/xShadyxLeafx 8h ago
Yeah, what’s fucked up is how many different videos exist of murderers claiming their victims “just died”
But seriously, maybe too much TV for us lol
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u/rg123itsme 5h ago
At the risk of being downvoted, I too had a first thought of, “sounds sus”. Ha! Too many murder mystery shows for me!
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u/TeneroTattolo 12h ago
Seven kids?
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u/ColonelStone 12h ago
Mormons
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u/Affectionate-Ant2110 10h ago
I looked at this guy even without knowing he had 7 kids and thought he looks Mormon
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u/Crazynites 13h ago
It’s so amazing to see that there is people who do care for others and their situations in life,this makes me proud to be human,I see so many selfish people who will take and don’t return the favour,even so called friends will do this to you,the thing is do you still help them out??,imagine what the world would be like if we all helped out in hard times
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u/effinmike12 6h ago
I'm a 47 year old man with three grown kids. This kind of stuff really gets me. I hope they have done well.
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u/BeefersOtherland 11h ago
This is how you know that billionaires are almost always terrible people. If I were a worth $400B I would literally spend every day in a Santa costume giving out houses, free tuition and paying for medical procedures. I think almost any normal person would.
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u/T-star_universe 11h ago
Those onions are at me again 😭😭
This is so wholesome, the dad was struggling not to breakdown ❤️
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u/ErisGreyRatBestGirl 6h ago
The smile of that father is powerful, being able to smile in that moment is inspiring, he's probably in a lot of pain while talking about his deceased wife and yet he keeps his smile, not for himself, but for his kids.
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u/FriendlyBee94 5h ago
Take care of one kid is hard enough with 2 parents. To raise 7 kids by himself is a very difficult road.
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u/babaroga73 1h ago
I like how he keeps a smile on his face while talking about wife and kids, not to be gloomy because kids would fell that.
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u/Breadstix009 11h ago
Bro has 7 young kids to look after. Without any disrespect to his wife, he needs to remarry or find a partner. That's just too much to take on by himself.
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u/Shmeckey 12h ago
Lol I was thinking the same. Tough to lose a partner/mom, but holy fuck 7 kids lol how is this guy doing this solo??
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