r/ChainsawMan • u/EvanGreatLion • 3d ago
Discussion The theory that Denji only remembered Reze's good traits while he couldn't care less about her Bomb Devil "side" is officially true
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u/DeMatador 2d ago
For those who don't understand what OP is trying to say: the point is that some people apparently believed that the missing choker in Chapter 183 was a mistake, while others theorized that it was representative of Denji not remembering it when thinking about her, as a symbol of his love for her "good side". By showing that, in the recently released Volume 20, the panel in Chapter 183 remains the exact same, OP is claiming that the "it was a mistake" theory is debunked, which, according to OP's logic, "confirms" the other theory being true ("Denji remembers only her good side"). This logic stems from the fact that, usually, mistakes in publication (standalone chapters) are fixed in the Volume releases.
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u/JCraig96 2d ago
Thank you for the clarification! Although, I still don't see how the choker not being there confirms this theory. I mean, I can see it being a thing, but I wouldn't say this is 100% confirmation or anything, if anything, it'll just be another clue to support it. But even then, you're doing A LOT of reading in-between the lines and you could be totally off base, lol. (Not you specifically, just the people who support this theory)
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u/Negative_Sell3016 1d ago
Bruh then what do you think is the reason for the choker not being included?😡
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u/SilverPhoenix7 2d ago
I thought I was crazy for coping about nayuta's death but people are really out there talking about a choker as if the detail still matters that much.
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u/ThatFuckingGeniusKid 2d ago
Well, they added back Nayuta's mole in the volume
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u/SilverPhoenix7 2d ago
The difference is that reze story or fate doesn't change because of the choker. We already know denji loved her, with or without it.
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u/dracopo_reddit 2d ago
a theory cannot be official until it's confirmed, the only thing official here is that the chocker missing is intended
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u/SebasChua 2d ago
Definitely intended. Denji saw her last without the choker, when they were talking on the beach they washed up on after their big fight. Reze revealed her true self to him there (she lost her disguise, the choker, in the fight), and Denji accepted her by offering to run away with her.
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u/Zohnannor 2d ago edited 1d ago
it's not even missing! it's on the right side of her neck. people really should stop posting this nonsense
edit: the pin, not the choker
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u/Material-Material456 2d ago
The pin is on the right side of her neck not the choker, that makes no sense
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u/Zohnannor 2d ago
the chocker is not necessary. she used it to camouflage her pin
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u/pepeguiseppe 2d ago
If Fujimoto wanted to emphasize her Bomb Devil side wouldn’t have he drawn her on the other side then…?
I feel like the theory’s the lesser reach in this scenario
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u/Zohnannor 1d ago
I don't think he wanted to emphasize anything here, not how Denji remembers her, nor her devil side
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u/pepeguiseppe 1d ago
That’s a really uncharitable interpretation I feel like, seeing as he actively chose to draw her without one of her most iconic features (her choker) and taking into account that Fujimoto REALLY cares about this sort of stuff when designing and paneling.
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u/Zohnannor 1d ago
yes, I don't have anything against that. I'm not even trying to disprove anything here. this post states that the absence of the CHOCKER is what shows Denji's feeling to Reze; if there was a PIN missing, that's another deal, worthy of discussion. I'm being downvoted for no reason...
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u/IcyZookeepergame7285 2d ago
Is this a theory? I feel like Denji practically says as much. Like when he offered to try and run with her
Like not that he doesn’t remember, he doesn’t care
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u/LordGlitch42 2d ago
It would probably be easier for people to tell what you mean if you also posted a panel of Reze from her own chapters, otherwise it's not immediately obvious to everyone what's changed
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u/mrmcdead 2d ago
I don't get it, what's the difference?
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u/Ganon_K 2d ago
She doesn't have the collar with the pin
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u/Rdasher123 2d ago
Isn’t the pin in her neck?
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u/Apart-Point-69 2d ago edited 2d ago
Exactly. I think she used the collar/choker to hide the pin but both the images OP used are exactly the same one lol
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u/RealApersonn 2d ago
I think OP posted both from the same chapter, but the right one is from the completed Vol 20, to point out that it was intentional, e.g. unlike Nayuta's missing mole
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u/M1RaaN 2d ago
the pin is on the other side of her neck. It'd make sense why you can't see it
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u/Apart-Point-69 2d ago
Yep.
Reze was actually wearing her choker in Volume 6 , so it may be true that Denji remembered Reze as a person (not as the Bombay devil) in chapter ORRR it was an error which they forgot to correct.
It still Doesn't change the fact that OP used the same image twice lol
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u/TheNonceMan 2d ago
She doesn't have it in either images...
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u/pokexchespin 2d ago
yeah, because chapter 183 is in volume 20. what OP is saying is the choker was missing when chapter 183 came out, and the fact it wasn’t added in the volume release (and touch ups like that happen, i think they added nayuta’s mole in the volume release) means it wasn’t intentional. definitely should’ve also included the panel from part 1 that denji is (mis)remembering to make the point clearer
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u/TheNonceMan 2d ago
Yeah, they should have include the different image to show there was a change. How on earth are we suppose to understand OP's point if he just shows two identical images.
Genuinely, it's the dumbest thing I've seen anyone do all week.
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u/Low-Apple-887 2d ago
I don't see the confirmed part but I believe this theory.
Denji doesn't give a shit about bad traits in people most of the time, why would Reze be the exception to that?
She's the first girl to make him feel equal to her while Makima felt like a prize to obtain.
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u/Dracsxd 2d ago
Or nobody bothered to correct that
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u/KingOfOddities 2d ago
It emphasis her neck quite a bit. Somebody would have caught it if it wasn't intentional. Nayuta's mole, ok that's easy to miss sometime, but I can't see this being a mistake
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u/Dracsxd 2d ago
That's assuming a whole lot of the assistants or editors had fresh in their minds that Reze was supposed to have her choker and pin in the first place
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u/KingOfOddities 2d ago
They have had mistakes before, and the noticeable ones are fixed in the volume for the most part.
Also the choker is one of her unique trait, it's like Quanxi with her eyepatch. They would have caught it. Not to mention the Reze movie coming out, they're not forgetting her thats' for sure.
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u/RioKarji 2d ago
The volume releases have been spotless in its record of fixing little forgotten details so far. Chances are, this one actually is intentional.
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u/EbayT4Turbo 2d ago
I SAID THIS IT WAS MY THEORY
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u/Time_Dimension_6042 2d ago
This theory isn’t true, the collar has nothing to do with her trigger, she just has a pin on her neck and the collar hides it
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u/SebasChua 2d ago
I think it's more straight forward: Denji saw Reze without her choker after they both washed up on the beach after their big fight (where Denji tangled her up in his chains and sunk them both to the bottom of the ocean). He got to see the real Reze, without her choker, her disguise, for the first and last time. It's not a mistake. People are just used to seeing Reze with her choker because it's iconic to her fit, important to her character and reveal, and is featured in a lot of fanart.
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u/sociocat101 2d ago
those two are the same image
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u/Questionererer 2d ago
thats the point. usually after volume release things get fixed. this one the image didnt change like with nayutas mole being added after volume release
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u/Adan_Rocco 2d ago
I wouldn’t say it’s officially true. It just means the choker not being there wasn’t a mistake. You could come to that conclusion from this but it’s not necessarily official.
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u/Freddycipher 2d ago
I mean do you want him to savor the memory of being incinerated and blown apart.
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u/TheNonceMan 2d ago
... Are you supposed to be showing something with this image? Think this guy should just be banned on principle.
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u/Questionererer 2d ago
thats the point. usually after volume release things get fixed. this one the image didnt change like with nayutas mole being added after volume release
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u/TheNonceMan 2d ago
And what about OP's post actually fucking communicates that? We're not all weapons grade level autists.
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u/Candy-Ashes 1d ago
Fujimoto wrote Good-bye Eri, ofc it makes sense why Denji would remember only the idealized part of Reze...
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u/Ok_Weight562 1d ago
Wouldn't say its official cus that implies that it's no longer a theory and is confirmed 2 be true. Rather i'd say its just an actual valid theory now
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u/Ayo_Square_Root 2d ago
Arent both pictures just the same? Chapter 183 is part of volume 20.
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u/alrightrich 2d ago
what they mean is the magazine serialization vs whats in the volume (which in the volume they can fix up) the picture they provided are the exact same thing like you said tho
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u/Kalashtiiry 2d ago
Tbf, why would he care about her trying to kill him? He's foolproof immortal and is mentally stable enough to handle it.
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u/lem_on- 2d ago