r/CraftBeer • u/ih8cheese • 2d ago

RECOMMENDED Tasman bay from Tree house might be the best Pilsner I’ve ever had

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My wife can spend all the time she wants in Sephora while I chill at the Tree house pop up bar, 2-3 hours is fine by me😂

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u/beerisgreatPA 2d ago

That’s a hazy pilsner

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u/Own-Mail-1161 2d ago

Totally thought it was a hazy too 🤣

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u/Noodletrousers 2d ago

Milky Pilsner is ridiculous. It’s a travesty.

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u/beerisgreatPA 2d ago

I would like to say that tree house has been making some wonderful lagers. But this should not be called a pils.

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u/fermentedradical 2d ago

Yeah, I was gonna say, wtf? I really, really hate it when haze canneries make every. single. thing. hazy.

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u/EastLAFadeaway US 2d ago

Yet you go to a haze cannery & expect something different? Who is the fool the fool who fools or the fool who returns & asks for the fool to stop fooling? Another round mate

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u/Brewery_McBrewerface US 11h ago

On the contrary, why label the beer a specific style if it doesn't meet the style guidelines? Why not just call it what it is? As a drinker, that's misleading. As a brewer, I'd suspect something went wrong.

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u/thigg_234 1d ago

Not hazy, just unfiltered pilsner.

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u/beerisgreatPA 1d ago

Unfiltered pils should still be clear

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u/thigg_234 1d ago

Hate to break it to you but if you literally google unfiltered pilsner you get the description of a cloudy beer with more flavor on the nose and tastebuds. You are wrong it literally takes a quick google search to prove you wrong.

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u/beerisgreatPA 1d ago

Hate to break it to you but any brewery that knows what they are doing can make clear beer without a filter or centrifuge. Clear beer does not mean filtered.

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u/beerisgreatPA 1d ago

Wait! Have you been going around thinking every clear beer you drink is filtered? 🤣

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u/somedamndevil 1d ago

Hate to break it to you but you're obviously not a brewer. I make clear pilsner all the time, I've never once filtered.

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u/bluegrassgazer 2d ago

Even their pilsner is hazy?

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u/KennyShowers 2d ago

They make a bunch of different lagers including a variety of pilsners, and I've never seen one of their look like this. Most I've seen are pretty close to true-to-style.

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u/thigg_234 1d ago

It's unfiltered, and that is why it looks like a hazy IPA.

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u/TPain518 2d ago

lager program is great. this pilsner is shit though

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u/pils-nerd 2d ago

My favorite salad is potato

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u/rickeyethebeerguy 2d ago

As a professional brewer of 12 years, I officially don’t know what the word Pilsner actually represents anymore. I’m also all for creativity! I bet it was bomb tho!

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u/fermentedradical 2d ago

Not me. I would be very happy to scream at the brewers with the Czechs and Germans to clarify this fucking thing.

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u/marchylookalike 2d ago

TH does have some great Czech pils tho. They usually have them with the Lukr/side pull at least at their Tewksbury location

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u/TB1289 2d ago

If you’re looking for a decent Lukr pour, I recommend Notch. TH has some good lagers, but Notch is far and away the best lager brewery in the area.

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u/SidBhakth 2d ago

Second Notch. Absolute masters of the lager.

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u/marchylookalike 22h ago

I agree. A lesser known but fantastic lager spot in the North Shore is Brewery Silvaticus in Amesbury. Amazing lagers/pils

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u/TB1289 19h ago

I love Silvaticus.

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u/beerbrained 2d ago

I just read the description on untappd, and I also no longer know what a Pilsner is anymore lol.

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u/somedamndevil 2d ago

As a professional drunkard for 20 years, this is not a fucking pilsner.

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u/Bitter_Hunter_31 2d ago

What's the difference between this and a cold IPA or IPL? Just marketing?

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u/rickeyethebeerguy 2d ago

Very small nuances but yeah it’s almost all marketing

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u/gofunkyourself69 1d ago

It might be either of those, but we can certainly say it isn't a pilsner.

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u/KennyShowers 2d ago

An IPA would mean it’s top-fermented, a lager means it’s bottom-fermented and cold crashed/cold fermented. You can do all the steps for a technical dictionary definition Pilsner and end up with a cloudy beer, it just may not fit any of the traditional substyle categories.

Pretty sure IPL usually means a top-fermented beer that’s fermented cold.

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u/aslanthemelon 1d ago edited 1d ago

A cold IPA (what they asked about specifically, not just any IPA) is specifically an adjunct-heavy malt bill, fermented with a neutral lager yeast at warmer than typical temperatures. It's a pretty shit style name, but that's what it is.

An IPL is basically just an IPA recipe fermented with a lager yeast at classic cooler lager temperatures. There can be about as much variety in IPLs as there can be in IPAs.

FYI, top-fermenting and bottom-fermenting are misnomers and holdovers from outdated understanding of fermentation. The name comes from traditionally cropping yeast from the top or bottom of a fermenter, but this is not something that actually reflects where the yeast ferments, and fermentation happens throughout the whole beer.

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u/KennyShowers 1d ago

Ah totally missed the “cold” in that sentence. Makes much more sense.

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u/Faoil_Brew 2d ago

It is up there with hazy cream stout. New plan we just call everything beer or IPA.

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u/ih8cheese 2d ago

Pilsner malt, lager yeast and all the hops in New Zealand I think. It’s just hazy from hoppy goodness

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u/rickeyethebeerguy 2d ago

Don’t get me wrong, west coast pils are one of my favorite. It’s just unique how that word started with Czech style pils or a German pils and now it’s just a lower ABV IPA. I do love all of them too.

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u/jpiro 2d ago

100% with you. One of my favorite beers to come out of Tallahassee where I live is called Lookdown by Deep Brewing. It’s a clear, crispy Pilsner that also happens to be a to be dry hopped to have great hop aroma and taste. It feels like a legit Pilsner, but with an extra step, and I’m good with that while fully understanding it’s now NOT a traditional Pilsner.

I can’t go as far as making Pilsners hazy. I just can’t get there.

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u/ih8cheese 2d ago

I hear you man. As someone who has been drinking craft beers for 15+ years I feel like that the industry is creating new styles from something that we’ve been enjoying for a long time. Not that I care as long as the end product is good 👍

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u/ImTommyJarvis 2d ago

If you've been drinking "craft beer for 15+" you'd agree that's a terrible representation of a pilsner.

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u/socialgambler 2d ago

Word, and no lager yeast is haze positive, so it's just a yeasty pils. No thanks.

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u/ImTommyJarvis 2d ago

I would question a "yeasty pils". I would also question the cold crash and dry hopping methods.

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u/brewjammer 2d ago

I just had a dude arguing with me cold ipa isn't a style.

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u/gofunkyourself69 1d ago

It really isn't. I mean it's clearly a thing people say. But it's jammed into a nonexistent gap between hoppy cream ale and IPL.

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u/brewjammer 1d ago

I don't understand that hate. people think thay are BJCP police or some shit. I know it isn't. that's not the point that's being made

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u/gofunkyourself69 17h ago

Nothing to do with "beer police" it's just a marketing term for a style that doesn't even exist.

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u/brewjammer 15h ago

You decide it's just marketing. You decide it doesn't exist. The breweries that make it must be the problem. https://byo.com/article/the-cool-new-style-cold-ipa/ That hole article must be a fever dream then.

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u/iamtehryan 2d ago

What the hell kind of pilsner looks like that? You sure you didn't actually get a shit ugly hazy?

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u/armbarbell 2d ago

That’s not a Pilsner.

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u/jonpacker 2d ago

I love Tree House, I also love pilsners. I drank Tasman Bay last week at Tewksbury. It’s just not a pilsner by anyone’s definition. Hazy cold pale ale maybe? I don’t know what style it is, but it’s not a pils.

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u/ImTommyJarvis 2d ago

I'm hoping that's condensation, because that Pilz looks like shit.

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u/MichaelEdwardson 2d ago

Love treehouse but this is not what a pils should look like

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u/ImTommyJarvis 2d ago

*Treehouz Pilz

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u/TB1289 2d ago

With all due respect, if this is the best Pils you’ve had, you should probably try some more beer.

I like Treehouse a lot, but this isn’t even close to their best lager, let alone their best Pils.

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u/SidBhakth 2d ago

Just drive to Notch Brewing in Brighton to have a real Pilsner.

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u/gofunkyourself69 1d ago

I'd go to Notch over Treehouse any day of the week.

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u/Hoppypoppy7924 1d ago

A pilsner? Certainly doesn't look like one. But from that brewery, makes sense.

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u/TPain518 2d ago

Tasman Bay

5% ABV

Texture (Columbus & Idaho

Texture is our Hoppy Pils! Brewed with our H...

Pilsner - New Zealand

This sessionable modern Lager utilizes New Zealand

hops and carries ebullient notes of citrus, lime, sauvignon blanc, and passion fruit. Tasman Bay is a modern pilsner brewed with a blend of New Zealand-grown hops! Vibrantly featuring Nelson Sauvin and Motueka Hops, Tasman Bay carries ebullient notes of citrus, lime, sauvignon blanc, and passion fruit sitting comfortably and easily atop a smooth and crips pilsner base. A vibrant and refreshing entry into our line-up of sessionable beers, Tasman Bay is a beer we are delighted to Share with you-we hope you are able to enjoy it in good

modern pilsner lolllll

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u/gofunkyourself69 1d ago

Glad to see I'm not missing anything by not going there lol

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u/RyanAtRBM 2d ago

What pop up are you at?

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u/ih8cheese 2d ago

Prudential center Boston. Its pretty awesome🫶

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u/ThePontoon 1d ago

Lol "pilsner"

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u/en_gm_t_c 1d ago

Are you sure that's a pilsner?

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u/morganstern 1d ago

Never seen a pilsner like that

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u/OatmealAntstronaut 2d ago

they should just call it a session IPA or a hazy pale

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u/KennyShowers 2d ago

I mean it's probably bottom-fermented and cold fermented, just because it's not clear doesn't make it an ale.

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u/OatmealAntstronaut 2d ago

Ah right. Maybe an IPL is a better term since it is fermented like a lager

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u/KennyShowers 2d ago

Per the blurb on Untappd they call it a “modern lager,” not like they’re trying to pass it off as anything traditional.

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u/klsklsklsklsklskls 2d ago

Eh, on the can they just call it a Pilsner as well.

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u/KennyShowers 2d ago

Sure but they’re not calling it a Czech/Bohemian or something. I definitely agree the appearance raises my eyebrows a bit but for 2025 a hoppy Pilsner being cloudy isn’t the craziest thing I’ve ever heard.

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u/klsklsklsklsklskls 2d ago

Look, I'm not a snob and I'm sure the beer tastes great. But a Pilsner is a very specific thing of which theres a few variations and none of them have haze. They could've easily called it a hoppy lager or any number of other things that wouldve been more correct.

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u/PsychologicalYak4549 2d ago

I just went to their new spot in New York last week. Very cool facility

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u/ih8cheese 1d ago

For all you out there who are doubting it’s the Pilsner just check on Untappd for pics of Tasman bay. It’s very hazy for Pilsner but so damn good

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u/gofunkyourself69 1d ago

Wait...pilsner?

Please tell me that's a typo.

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u/Omisco420 1d ago

A hazy Pilsner is a shit Pilsner. This is clearly not a Pilsner lol, it’s an ipa.

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u/BigBootyBro93 1d ago

God damn, why does every place pour in plastic cups now. I try to avoid any brewery that does this (unless a bit outdoor event is going on).

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u/drumguitar 2d ago

can't go wrong with Tree House

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u/TB1289 2d ago

A hazy Pilsner says otherwise.

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u/drumguitar 2d ago

Touché

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u/TB1289 2d ago

For the record, I’m a big fan of Treehouse but this is not their best work…or OP ordered the wrong beer.

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u/drumguitar 2d ago

nah i get it. i don't think it's the wrong beer, just not a traditional pils

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u/TB1289 2d ago

Or a Pils at all.

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u/drumguitar 1d ago edited 1d ago

yeah i'd call it a hoppy lager but the brewery calls it a "modern pilsner" so maybe i'm just being generous to them. cheers!

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u/gofunkyourself69 1d ago

Apparently you can. Just look at this picture again.