r/DC_Cinematic • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • Feb 20 '25
OTHER James Gunn met up with Zack Snyder today
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u/el_grime_bone Feb 20 '25
Looking forward to the internet reacting to this in a calm and rational way.
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u/MoonMan17372 Feb 20 '25
Zack and James are probably reading the comments on Twitter and laughing their asses off aa we speak😂
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u/Broqpace Feb 20 '25
They probably aren’t. I assume they’d have better things to do.
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u/Qwer925 Feb 20 '25
Idk they both are really fond of social media lol
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u/Xsphyre Feb 21 '25
Unsure about James Gunn but as I've watched Zack Snyder on quite a few podcasts, he doesn't frequent social media at all except his Vero. Sometimes his son shows him memes and stuff of him that he finds funny.
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u/MarionetteScans Feb 21 '25
In case Zack Snyder reads this, I'll always be a fan. Just because he took inspiration for the man of steel fight from my favorite anime, Birdy the Mighty
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u/Sea_Aspect1010 Feb 21 '25
Yeah That was such an obscure anime to take inspiration from
Its actually very cool of Snyder to have done that. I loved both the OVA and the anime back then.
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u/Georgeorgiorgio Feb 20 '25
The sweaties are going to go wild when they see this one.
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u/Goosojuice Feb 20 '25
Sweatie?
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u/Georgeorgiorgio Feb 20 '25
It was a title that the late Jon Schnepp gave to the comic book community.
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u/Background-Ninja-550 Feb 20 '25
What a cool dude Schnepp seemed to be. Loved listening to him talk about comics and movies, he had so much knowledge and such a passion. I really wish he could have seen all the comicbook movies that has come out since his passing. Imagine him seeing Nick Cage's Superman (CGI I know) cameo in The Flash for instance. And I know he loved Fantastic 4, so really sad he didn't get to see that one (the one coming in a few months) in particular.
Rest in piece, King of sweaties.
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u/Georgeorgiorgio Feb 20 '25
Listening to his episodes on collider was peak comic book fandom. So damn passionate and funny.
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u/matticans7pointO The Red Capes Are Coming! Feb 20 '25
I don't expect it to happen and I'm not asking for it but I would 100% be down for a movie written and produced by Gunn and directed by Snyder. Full Fat Videos mentioned the idea and I think it would make for a good combination. Booster Gold or a New Gods movie would be a fun fit with that pair.
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u/SimpleSink6563 Feb 20 '25
I will never understand why some fans on social media insist they hate each other because they make superhero movies with different tones.
Like do they think creatives are only ever friends with other creatives who make the exact same sort of art as them?
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u/mrbrownvp Feb 20 '25
Same thing with Marvel vs. DC, they always wish each other well and get excited about each other's new projects. But people actually think that there is some kind of pseudo-rivalry. Like they have been sharing creative back and forth since the comics. They may be competitors, but they know they need each other. The so-called "rivalry" is mostly a fan-driven narrative.
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u/comineeyeaha Feb 21 '25
It’s absurd, because James Gunn literally wrote the screenplay for Zack Snyder’s first movie, Dawn of the Dead. They’re clearly long time friends.
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u/nightcitytrashcan Feb 21 '25
It's like back in the day when John Milius was the only conservative guy in a friend group that consisted of him George Lucas, Martin Scorsese, Brian DePalma and Steven Spielberg. Try to imagine the discussions among these guys.
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u/Jessency Feb 21 '25
Reminds me of that time Steven Spielberg wrote a very kind congratulatory letter to George Lucas after Star Wars beat Jaws.
If that were today, people would quickly go online and go "Jaws sucks! George Lucas humiliated Spielberg at the box office!" or something like that.
Though there's a great chance there were people who did think that. They just didn't have the internet then to share that opinion.
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u/mousey_goldfish1 Feb 20 '25
There’s no proof but I have a feeling that James might have shown Zack a cut of the upcoming Superman film.
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u/007Kryptonian Son of Krypton vs Bat of Gotham Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25
They’ve been friends for over 20 years lol, Gunn even likes Man of Steel.
Would love to see Zack at the Superman premiere!
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u/Aidyn_the_Grey Feb 20 '25
Man of Steel is so underrated. It really does suck that the DCEU never really had room to grow organically.
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u/ItsMeBenedickArnold Feb 20 '25
That movie deserved its own sequel and Ben Affleck deserved a solo movie before they made BvS or Justice League.
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u/gamepig31 Feb 20 '25
Absolutely. If WB hadn't rushed it, the DCEU would have been so much better.
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Feb 20 '25
If only the fans were as friendly with each other
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u/pipboy_warrior Feb 20 '25
I think a lot of them are. Shit a lot of their fans are the same people, there's a Venn Diagram of the fandoms. But you have a tiny portion in either base who have usernames like "Fucktheotherdirector", or says shitty things about their kid committing suicide.
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u/electriclightthemoon Feb 20 '25
this is sweet! how can anyone take sides? i just want to give them hugs!
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u/BLueSkYBrOwnPotaTo Feb 20 '25
I fucking love Zack Snyder. Sure, he might not always make the best movies and his vision can be a little grandiose, but the man's been through the ringer. There's a genuine sadness and look of emptiness in his eyes sometimes, and I think this photo captures that. He's dealt with so much personal pain whilst at the height of his career and yet he still turns up to give his all on passion projects. The man loves cinema and works his arse off to try and please his fans. The end product may not always be perfect, but he seems like a genuinely good bloke. Love to Zack (and James Gunn who is also fucking awesome).
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u/flashrex777 Feb 23 '25
Yeah, I lost a family member to suicide once too and it’s not pretty. As a person, I fucking love him and Ive loved every single DC movie he’s made from Man of Steel to BvS: Extended Cut to ZSJL.
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u/TheFastestKnight Feb 20 '25
Somewhere, the worst person you know is getting real mad.
But this is actually wholesome AF.
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u/jdyake Feb 20 '25
His recent films haven’t been the best but I’d be down for a Zack Snyder film in the DCU
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u/CHEEZYSPAM Feb 20 '25
I feel like visually all his movies are appealing and has this epic, grandiose beauty to them.
However. when he's writing original scripts and then puts those to screen, it seems to be his weakness (Sucker Punch, Rebel Moon, his 'Army of the Dead' flicks).
If it's an established property where the IP is already established, or he's filming someone else's story? I think that is where he really shines (Dawn, 300, Watchmen and of course his DC trilogy). Those tend to be commercially successful.
If I were him, I'd stick to known properties and directing other writer's work.
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u/ThomasG_1007 Feb 20 '25
While I wouldn’t want him doing DCU Batman I think he would kill a Dark Knight Returns movie. Ik BVS is already partially that but a faithful one would rule
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u/gamepig31 Feb 20 '25
He himself said that in some interview once. Can't remember where tho. But it'd be definitely interesting.
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u/ThomasG_1007 Feb 20 '25
I remember that that’s right. I think he also said he wanted to do a daredevil/Elektra movie in that interview. Hoping that one doesn’t come true lol
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u/YorkshireFudding Feb 20 '25
I hope once the toxicity from certain people has died down, that Snyder gets a chance to direct something for DC again. There's definitely a project for him further down the line.
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u/SkkAZ96 Feb 20 '25
Pop culture fandoms are like sports hooligans. The supporters go hard in their tribalism, stirring up rivalries and conflict between their "teams" and go apeshit crazy at each other. Meanwhile, the actual athletes, actors, and directors are friends, go party, or hang out together because they're colleges and at one point or another may end up working in the same team/project.
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u/BatmanNewsChris Batman Feb 20 '25
Imagine if he's replacing Andy Muschietti with Zack Snyder for the DCU Batman movie! (because let's be real, Muschietti isn't directing it)
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u/Maleficent_Problem_9 Feb 20 '25
As long as he does not mainly write the movie i'll prefer him over anyone to direct it . The warehouse scene in bvs is genuinely the best batman live action sequence ever.
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u/BatmanNewsChris Batman Feb 20 '25
Yeah, there's no way he'd be writing. If you pair Snyder's directing with a James Gunn approved script, it's the best of both worlds IMO.
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u/gamepig31 Feb 20 '25
Holy shit, this sounds so goddamn good! It would be perfect if they did this!
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u/Federal_Series1537 Feb 20 '25
I think that might be something and with Studio interference down to Gunn that could be pretty kickass. Not going to be Afleck but still a beefy Batman would be great to see against a formidable Rouges gallery that uses acid squirting flowers and wind up exploding penguins
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u/Sad-Assistance-8039 Feb 20 '25
Honestly, I like that idea. Snyder is much better choice for Batman than Muschietti. And I guess after the failure of Rebel Moon, he could also use a smaller project from a great writer, like Clayface.
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u/Necessary-Layer5871 Feb 20 '25
And with one sentence BatmanNewsChris just created a rumour that will be regurgitated by news outlets across the Internet and stated as fact.
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u/elevator7 Feb 20 '25
In my heart of hearts, my hope is that DC movies adapts the Absolute Line and Snyder returns. He would be perfect.
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u/darthcjd Feb 20 '25
With a good script, which James could provide, Zack could direct a good movie for the new DCU. It would be the best of both worlds. Give him something action-packed and pulpy to suit his style. My dream would be something like The Authority. Or Lobo. I could even see a Snyder Green Arrow going crazy with slow mow arrow shots and acrobatics. Lots of possibilities.
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u/metronomemike Feb 20 '25
Can you imagine if they worked on a movie together? Like Snyder cinematography style mixed with storytelling would be perfect.
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u/CaliforniaNavyDude Feb 20 '25
I appreciate that most of the comments are pretty nice. I worked for a few days on one of Zach's movies and from what I saw he was a chill dude.
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u/jemv10 Feb 20 '25
Is there anything bad about Zach Snyder visuals on a good script?
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u/BoisTR Feb 20 '25
Absolutely not. If there is one thing that Zack Snyder is great at, it’s how to make movies look awesome. He’s completely mastered the visual element of filmmaking.
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u/MoonMan17372 Feb 20 '25
Fuck it, let’s get a DCU project with the Dawn of the Dead formula of Gunn writing and Snyder directing
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u/Negative-Country-600 Feb 20 '25
I watched his animated flick Owls of Ga'hoole a few weeks ago. Hadn't seen it before. And it was REALLY good. You can see how it was a precursor to him doing Man of Steel in so many ways, especially with the action and flying sequences. There's no denying his contributions to cinema as a visualist who has created some of the most memorable images in recent history. I think Justice League is one of his best movies because he's just taking a script written by an Oscar winner and bringing it to life. You get good shit when that's the case. When he's writing his own thing, well then it tends to not work.
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u/pipboy_warrior Feb 20 '25
Nope, visuals are something Snyder does well at. It's everything else that is arguably weaker. It's why I'd like to see him doing something like a Dragon Ball Z movie.
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u/MrKevora Feb 20 '25
I love the Snyderverse and I’m also really excited about Gunn’s DCU. Nothing but wholesomeness for me here!
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u/Jarboner69 Feb 20 '25
I wouldn’t be surprised if they met up partially because they knew what a shitstorm this would cause in certain groups
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u/DepressedNoble Feb 20 '25
I hope the beef that their fans create dies off now ..
In Jesus Christ name we pray , AMEN
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u/CasanovaFrankinstein Feb 21 '25
I love that these two are bros no matter how much folks online want them to be enemies. Friends for life bro!
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u/WhiplashDynamo Feb 20 '25
James Gunn wrote Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead! They were friends and collaborators way before DC. Glad to see their friendship has endured
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u/Odd_Advance_6438 Feb 20 '25
While the opportunity presents itself, I’d like to mention something I’ve noticed from talking with people that have worked with Snyder and Gunn. I haven’t, but I’ve talked with crew who have
They described both as incredibly nice, hard working, and passionate people. However, something that was kind of interesting is that both of them are kind of the opposites of how people see their movies. Gunns known for making lighter hearted movies while Snyder makes darker stuff, but from what I’ve been told, Snyder was actually more light hearted and prone to cracking jokes, while Gunn was a little more serious and focused.
That’s not to say Gunn was too serious, or Snyder was unprofessional, that’s just the vibe they described. Snyder sounded kind of quirky, but the good kind of quirky. They mentioned he would usually ride a skateboard or bike around set, and there’s actually a funny story of his wife getting mad at him for playing too much Fortnite, and she told him to do pottery or something instead.
They said that Gunn was still a very friendly guy, just that sometimes Marvel would put him in stressful positions that made him a little more serious
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u/Technical_Drawing838 Feb 20 '25
You can see this in interviews with Snyder. He's almost always smiling. He's upbeat and positive and enthusiastic. And he cracks a lot of jokes. He had the Russo brothers laughing a number of times.
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u/Technical_Drawing838 Feb 20 '25
I've been saying for awhile that since James Gunn and Zack Snyder are friends, hopefully James Gunn will at some point restore the Snyderverse as an Elseworlds series.
The hopeful side of me sees this as a step in that direction. The cynical side of me sees this as James Gunn hoping to get more Snyder fans on his side with no intention of ever restoring the Snyderverse.
And I understand it could be neither. It could be just two friends getting together and hanging out (However, it seems very unlikely that they wouldn't at least discuss the possibility of restoring the Snyderverse).
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u/ShadowExtinkt Feb 20 '25
I’m fully aware it will never happen and had no chance of happening with the public/reddit backlash, but they should’ve just let Snyder’s plan play out. It would’ve been done by now and they could just reboot like they did anyway afterwards.
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u/gamepig31 Feb 20 '25
Agreed. But now it's probably way to late. We'll never get to see the Snyderverse ever aging, half of the original cast is gone and moved on. That's the sad truth
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u/Killjoy3879 Feb 20 '25
i'll be quite honest, i always wished that zack would stick around dc for the sake of cinematography. regardless of his writing, (and color grading for many), the shots for his films look like absolute spectacles.
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u/NecessaryMagician150 Feb 20 '25
Man, I know the actual plot of the movies would have been divisive/all over the place, but on a purely VISUAL level, I cant even imagine how epic Snyder's Justice League 3 would have looked with the League taking on Darkseid. Henry Cavill's Superman fighting Darkseid in a final confrontation directed by Snyder??? Sign me the fuck up. Story be damned! Lol
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u/Dr-Saltalamacchia Feb 20 '25
TIL that the adjective consummate is VERY different than the verb consummate
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u/sladeshied Feb 20 '25
He could have used a better word than “consummate” there.
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u/Sparrow1989 Feb 20 '25
IMO I didnt really know either of them until Dawn of the Dead remake blew me away. It makes sense that they are friends just based on how that movie really got their name out there. 300 obviously was Zack Snyders big one but other than Dawn of the Dead i never really paid attention to gunn till guardians.
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u/monkeygoneape Feb 20 '25
Would love to see the two collaborate together again, the solid character writing of Gunn and the over the top visuals of a Synder movie
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u/antiaust Feb 20 '25
I wish Zack could take over The Authority. Just make it something dark, bloody, and messed up—like the Suicide Squad without the humor lol
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u/ReturnInRed Feb 20 '25
As excited as I am for the DCU, I would be down for a closing chapter to Snyder's Justice League saga. Maybe something like a 3-4 episode Max series. If a good chunk of it is set on an Apokolips ravaged earth, it would likely be drastically different from a DCU Justice League theatrical film. The different platforms, tones, and casts, would probably be enough to keep them separate in the minds of audiences. Gunn said he wants Elseworlds after all.
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u/pleasebeherenow Feb 20 '25
Snyder getting a directing gig in the DCU would be epic. He had great ideas, but the studio tore his productions apart.
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u/Successful_Buddy513 Feb 21 '25
Can Zack direct the new Batman movie for the DCU please? Sorry Andy, we can give you another project down the road.
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u/ontheedgeofinsanity9 Feb 21 '25
Even on IGN when Gunn was promoting Brightburn he was still appreciative of Snyder and I don't think Snyder has said anything bad about Gunn too.
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u/CommanderMaxil Feb 21 '25
What I wouldn’t give to have them team up on a DC movie, Gunn writing and Snyder directing
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u/MrDitkovichNeedsRent Feb 20 '25
Both Gunn fans and Synderfans are equally bad, neither are normal
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u/mrbrownvp Feb 20 '25
Glad someone agreeing. I think that they cant get over the fact that we can enjoy the new while also enjoying the past. Good thing this is most people and Internet is not really the real world
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u/Zawrid Feb 20 '25
Hopefully in 10 years maybe we get a closure to snyders knightmare world. Some injustice stuff, like gunss universe will meet with cavils superman regime. Like the game/comics
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u/throwawayxyz50 Feb 21 '25
They did the Dawn of the Dead remake together, I believe. I have watched all their movies since then.
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u/dtisme53 Feb 21 '25
I will always maintain that if you give Zack a good script and a producer who knows how to rein him in he could make a hit again.
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u/BloodyWolfx8 Feb 21 '25
I say let Zack help with some storytelling for some characters that fit his style or let him have a hand in the DC elseworlds stuff
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u/DMinaya5 Feb 21 '25
People on the Internet are so weird about these two being friends.
Dawn of the Dead helped catapult both of their careers and they have each other to thank for that, I'm sure Snyder is rooting for Gunn to succeed.
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u/DrakeScoffield Feb 21 '25
Hear me out.. what if ...what if Zack was approached for a project!! Oh God, please make that happen. Any project for that matter...
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u/CapertheFox1 Feb 21 '25
They are both talented directors and nothing wrong with being a fan of both of these people.
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u/calltheavengers5 Feb 21 '25
Just goes to show we're not enemies. We all want what's best for DC and cinema as a whole. Even if we have different ideas of what that means!
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u/SilverPanda99060 Feb 21 '25
Ima huge fan of the Snyderverse, even though I was disappointed on the way it ended, I'm still very much just as hyped for James Gunn DCU. Cannot wait for the new Superman movie.
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u/T-rune Feb 22 '25
The fact they’re freinds but there fandoms are at each other’s throats is really funny to me
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u/Illustrious-Sign3015 Feb 20 '25
Zach and James are friends and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that