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Editorial Economics is not Trump’s strong suit

https://www.aei.org/economics/economics-is-not-trumps-strong-suit/
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u/nycdiveshack 15d ago

The goal is isolation through Peter Thiel’s and Cantor Fitzgerald’s version of globalization for the U.S. and UK, the claims he wants Greenland (metals for tech)/Canada/Panama Canal are not a bluff. In fact I think he will talk about annexing Mexico next. Eventually to dissuade folks over those fears (basically these rants are a test to see how it can be taken) the plan will be more install puppet governments with the end goal of using them for labor and manufacturing hubs. The steps taken will be similar to what’s happening to federal agencies and federal employees here. This is where Peter Thiel/Palantir comes in. Using AI to replace federal employees and advanced software like Palantir to run the day to day operations of the intelligence agencies and armies in those countries (explanation below about the U.S. and UK along with links). The folks behind Trump are Peter Theil/Cantor Fitzgerald.

“That’s the standard technique of privatization: Defund, make sure things don’t work, People get angry, you hand it over to private capital”

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/02/seeing-stones-pandemic-reveals-palantirs-troubling-reach-in-europe

https://uwpexponent.com/opinions/2025/03/13/who-is-peter-thiel/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies

Specifically Trump is throwing all these policies up and Palantir analytics software is see what works/fails and why along with what to change next time. The goal maybe isolationism but the path to it through seeing what works and what doesn’t under trump then refining it for Vance. JD Vance’s benefactor for more than 10 years has been Peter Theil (founder and still majority owner of Palantir, explained with shares and link further down) the 2nd biggest defense contractor for the CIA/NSA handling their day to day operations along with several UK intelligence agencies and armed forces this doesn’t even cover the data Palantir received from Greece at the height of Covid (links above) or that Palantir provides support to the IDF for “war-related missions” (links above), for the US military Elon Musk provides them starshield (military version of starlink).

https://washingtonspectator.org/peter-thiel-and-the-american-apocalypse/

https://www.npr.org/2009/07/13/106479613/a-tech-fix-for-illegal-government-snooping

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB125200842406984303

Peter was born in West Germany and grew up in a South African town that still believes in Hitler. Cantor Fitzgerald lost so many people on 9/11. I think they realized isolationism is the key. Cantor’s chairman is our secretary of commerce. He quit cantor only a month ago and now his son is in charge.

Thiel directly own roughly 180 million publicly traded shares which 7%. His investment firm Rivendell 7 owns 34 million publicly traded shares. Other Thiel vehicles own 37 million shares. Thiel entities also own 32.5 million supervoting Class B shares in Palantir. Those class b shares carry 10 votes while public ones carry only 1 vote per share. Now here is the kicker for why he still controls Palantir (link below), Thiel has sole investment power over 335,000 class F shares as part of a trust that has 49.99% voting interest in the company.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/palantir-stock-chairman-peter-thiel-b63415c7

Leaked documents showed Palantir’s clients as of 2013 included at least twelve groups within the U.S. government, including the CIA, the DHS, the NSA, the FBI, the CDC, the Marine Corps, the Air Force, the Special Operations Command, the United States Military Academy, the Joint Improvised-Threat Defeat Organization and Allies

https://techcrunch.com/2015/01/11/leaked-palantir-doc-reveals-uses-specific-functions-and-key-clients/

It would explain why Trump ordered hectares of federal land be stripped for timber. It makes sense why they would want to drill and mine federal lands/national parks for oil and metals. Making Canada and Mexico into manufacturing zones. Just a couple weeks ago Blackrock (an American company) bought 43 ports in 23 countries that includes 2 of the 4 Panama Canal ports for $23 billion dollars. Those 2 ports, Cristobal and Balboa, one on the Atlantic side and one on the Pacific side are the 2 most important ports at the Panama Canal.

https://www.michiganfarmnews.com/critical-panama-canal-ports-of-entry-purchased-by-us-investor-giant-blackrock

Another big factor in isolation is now controlling the internet which starlink has started. Starlink has partnered with TMobile to provide service bad connection areas. TMobile announced that it would let rival’s AT&T and Verizon customers use starlink as well.

https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/t-mobiles-free-starlink-satellite-service-opens-up-to-at-t-and-verizon-customers/

Having Israel/Gaza/West Bank as sort of an embassy to the world with Peter Theil’s hooks in the UK because about a year and a half ago they got the contract to manage UK’s health system along with all the work Palantir is already doing for their intelligence agencies and army (links below), the UK is our link to the world. Greenland is the buffer zone with Panama Canal as the border to the south. Tariffs in the short term hurt the economy but long term would force manufacturing to increase within our borders.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/07/16/jd-vance-and-peter-thiel-what-to-know-about-the-relationship-between-trumps-vp-pick-and-the-billionaire/

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/07/palantir-delivers-first-two-ai-enabled-systems-to-us-army.html

An era of isolationism is the goal, there is even a section on it in Project 2025 which was written by Cantor Fitzgerald and the heritage foundation.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/blackrock-panama-canal-deal-ck-hutchison-trump/

https://poorandpissed.wordpress.com/2025/03/07/the-shadow-players-behind-project-2025-wall-street-cantor-fitzgerald-the-heritage-foundation-and-the-privatization-of-americas-public-resources/

https://www.westword.com/news/opinion-palantir-technologies-puts-colorado-at-center-of-future-of-ai-23822908

https://corporatewatch.org/palantir-in-the-uk/

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/127784/html/

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/21/business/palantir-nhs-uk-health-contract-thiel.html

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trump-quietly-plans-to-liquidate-public-lands-to-finance-his-sovereign-wealth-fund/

https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no

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u/Matt2_ASC 15d ago

Trump seems like the useful idiot. He is easily persuaded by people he deems powerful. Musk is just the most recent person to get his ear. Thiel has JD Vance and others bought into his world view and just has to manipulate Trump to get the US shifting towards his goals.

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u/nycdiveshack 15d ago

Google Peter Thiel and scapegoat mechanism

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u/JerryJinx 15d ago

These fucks using palantir is an insult to Tolkien.

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u/Seraph199 15d ago

Yep, they name a lot of their companies after LotR concepts which is really sad, given how the LotR is such a strong rejection of fascism at the heart of the story.

Tolkien had rural English folk in mind when creating the hobbits and their role in the greater story, but that concept directly points out how the smallest and seemingly weakest of us have all the potential to do the most good. The story takes the concept of a marginalized group that just wants to avoid attention so they don't get exploited, and puts them front and center as the heroes.

These fascists and their bigoted, white supremacist, misogynistic bullshit is an offense to everything that LotR was all about.