r/fednews 3h ago

April 06, 2025 - r/fednews Daily Discussion Thread

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Have anything you want to talk about that doesn't quite warrant its own thread or currently being discussed in a megathread? Post it here!

In an effort to effectively manage the amount of information being posted, please keep anything speculative or considered repetitive within this discussion thread.


r/fednews 1d ago

April 05, 2025 - r/fednews Daily Discussion Thread

16 Upvotes

Have anything you want to talk about that doesn't quite warrant its own thread or currently being discussed in a megathread? Post it here!

In an effort to effectively manage the amount of information being posted, please keep anything speculative or considered repetitive within this discussion thread.


r/fednews 15h ago

I really don't get the cult.

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My wife and I both work for the government. We will almost certainly receive our rif notice in May considering we are administrative employees. My family is incredibly sympathetic; however, the inlaws are hardcore Trump supporters. I mean with the t-shirts, hats, big signs and life-size cutouts of Trump on their lawns. What's bizarre is her father retired from the state of New York with an amazing package. Much better than FERS and routinely bragged about working third shift and watching TV all night.

Well now all government workers are garbage and lazy and need to be fired. I was certain the man would have a change of heart when it hit home. When it affected his family. Boy was I wrong. The wife called her dad and put him on speaker or I probably wouldn't have believed it. She said me and my husband have 15 years of service and we are about to be fired. His response was and I quote, "oh well, McDonald's is hiring".

Who says this? What father takes the side of a political party over their child? It's honestly a mental illness. There's no other way to describe it.


r/fednews 2h ago

What happened to “go and work those productive private sector jobs?” Took DRP and was denied a job approval request.

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I took the original DRP, and found a job a month later (in the same field). Emailed ti ethics to get approval and they said, no you can’t work there, conflict of interest. Why are they applying this old guidance to the new situation. We are not active government employees anymore, it is not the same as if someone who works for the government (has access to all systems, cases, contracts etc.). We can’t influence any outcomes, we are simply getting a severance over time instead of a lump sum.


r/fednews 12h ago

Senior Justice Dept. lawyer put on leave after questioning Trump administration.

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r/fednews 16h ago

CNN reporting DHS - including Secret Service - can expect staffing cuts

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r/fednews 16h ago

The left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing

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Its wild that IRS employees were offered shift changes in the morning, then sent RIF plan notices in the afternoon, the probationary employees are coming back on the 14th, tax season ends 04/15, upload your resume by 04:14, you’re only “essential” or “mission critical” until 05:15 (at the latest), there are protests around the world, Karoline Leavitt looks good for 47, Marjorie Taylor Greene is some where starching her white hood, and Trump is playing golf… oh and I’ve just been made aware that groceries is an “old-fashioned” word.

Did I miss anything?


r/fednews 2h ago

Could Trump upend legal precedent protecting technical experts running independent agencies from political influence?

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r/fednews 11h ago

I needed a quick break. I'm not super artsy, but hey, I tried...

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Alright, let's look at these two images in the context of r/fednews rules, specifically Rule 1: Maintain Professional Conduct & Respectful Dialogue.

First, the image with the neon text "FED NEWS HATES YOU ELON MUSK." While it's certainly provocative and expresses a strong, negative opinion directed at a public figure (Elon Musk), I don't see it violating Rule 1. Here's why:

  1. Not a Personal Attack on a User: Rule 1 is primarily about how members interact with each other. This image doesn't attack or harass another member of the r/fednews community directly. Criticizing a public figure, even harshly, doesn't fall under the scope of interpersonal disrespect that Rule 1 aims to prevent within the sub.
  2. Not Inherently Unprofessional Content for the Topic: While blunt, it's expressing a sentiment related to a figure often discussed in contexts relevant to federal policy, tech, contracts, etc. It's a form of commentary, albeit a crude one. It doesn't contain hate speech targeting protected groups, graphic violence, or prohibited content.
  3. Contribution (Rule 1 - Dialogue): This image, controversial as it might be, can contribute by sparking dialogue about perceptions of this community, Elon Musk's interactions with federal entities, or media coverage related to him. It serves as a (very blunt) conversation starter relevant to topics discussed here, ideally prompting discussion that itself adheres to Rule 1's standards of respectful dialogue.

Now, regarding the second image depicting stylized figures before the White House with the text "Trump Era Federal Workforce 2025 and Beyond."

  1. Political Commentary, Not Personal Attack: This is clearly symbolic political commentary or speculation about potential changes to the federal workforce under a specific political scenario. Like the first image, it doesn't target any specific user within r/fednews for harassment or disrespect. Expressing a political viewpoint or concern through imagery isn't, by itself, a violation of professional conduct or respectful dialogue between users.
  2. Relevant Topic: The future of the federal workforce, administration changes, and related policies are highly relevant topics for r/fednews. This image visually represents a theme pertinent to the community's focus.
  3. Contribution (Rule 1 - Dialogue): This image contributes by visually presenting a potential topic for discussion and debate. It invites members to share their thoughts, concerns, or perspectives on the future of federal employment and potential administration impacts. Again, it serves to initiate dialogue, and the expectation is that the subsequent discussion follows Rule 1.

In essence, neither image constitutes a direct personal attack, harassment, or hate speech directed at our members or specific protected groups. They are forms of commentary – one targeting a public figure and the other representing a political theme relevant to the sub. While they might elicit strong reactions, they don't inherently violate the conduct rules (like Rule 1) that govern how users treat each other.

They contribute by providing points for discussion pertinent to r/fednews, even if they do so in a provocative or symbolic way. The key distinction is that Rule 1 governs user-to-user interaction and prohibits direct disrespect/attacks within the community, rather than acting as a blanket censorship of opinions or relevant political commentary, provided it doesn't cross into territory like hate speech or targeted harassment.


r/fednews 14h ago

Can we ever go back to the way it was? Could it all be rebuilt?

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I'm not a Fed employee, but I've been lurking since innoguration. Thank you to all of you who are in the trenches and I'm sorry you are dealing with this insanity.

Thinking of the federal government, do you think we can ever go back to the way things were? Can the soft power, the working systems, the processes in all these agencies be recreated? When?


r/fednews 7h ago

What is the whole RIF endgame?

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I want to know what the endgame is. The administration wants to fire or get rid of as many workers as possible. Got it. But what happens when social security checks come to a halt or banks start to collapse because all the regulation experts have left?

My best guess is this is all a PR stunt, and after they declare "mission accomplished" they will go on a hiring spree. But then they'd have to pay people more or offer more incentives to new hires - because who would be crazy enough to accept an offer from this administration?


r/fednews 12h ago

Lazy, Bloated, Woke Bureaucrats at the CDC

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Not my posting, but from someone I know. I also fit some of these examples below and had the honor of working with the same people. And by no means is the CDC the only agency that does amazing, critical work. Please share stories like this from your agency. Too long have civil servants just ignored the slandar and lies politicians used to stir up their base. We just focused on the job carried. Well, because we were too busy doing actual work and the politicians that saw what we do were too scared to put out a counter-message, we are in the current situation. So, take the time to help tell our stories and educate the public, because otherwise, people won't know until it is too late.


DO YOU LOVE TO HATE THAT “DREADFUL, BLOATED, WOKE, BUREAUCRACY” NAMED CDC?
These true stories from friends I knew and worked with at CDC during my 22 years there might just change your mind:

Remember the dreaded “TOXIC SHOCK SYNDROME” that can kill as many three out of every ten people who get it? My friend Dr. Claire Broome, helped discover that it was often making women sick who were not properly using tampons.

How about the dreaded LEGIONNAIRE’S DISEASE that can kill one in every ten people who contract it. My friend, Dr. Joe McDade tells of the joy he and his fellow CDC colleagues felt when they discovered the cause: a hotel air conditioning cooling tower where the Legionnaires had gathered for a meeting - the kind of cooling tower at every major hotel where you and I now safely stay.

When you click in that secure AUTOMOBILE SAFETY BELT next time you drive, thank CDC for collecting and summarizing the data from auto accidents that showed how many lives seatbelts save each year - estimated to be 15,000 lives in 2017 alone.

Remember how we hated losing LEAD IN GASOLINE? For years people thought that lead poisoning mostly came from lead in peeling paint, until CDC was able to show Congress that lead in gasoline was poisoning all children and lowering their IQs in the process. So Congress passed a law restricting lead in gas. But lead was a great, cheap lubricator that kept the car engines of the day from knocking; so industry lobbyists had almost succeeded in convincing Congress to allow more lead back in gas…….until the night before the bill was to pass. That night CDC showed undeniable data that the law reducing lead in gas had reduced the average lead contamination in U.S. children every year since the original law had passed. So Congress, reversed itself and actually restricted lead in gas even further! Lead contamination in ALL U.S. children - rich and poor, urban and rural, black and white (the ‘Public” CDC was created to serve) dropped so much that it was estimated to raise the IQ of an average U.S. child by 10 points!!

How did CDC get its data? For more than 50 years a very small number of MOBILE CDC HEALTH CLINICS have traveled the country offering free physicals to volunteers, who understand that in exchange for free physicals, their blood samples - disconnected from their names- would be collected, stored and studied in future years. This program has created a treasure trove of health data that is the envy of countries around the world. These samples give a clear picture of how the average American’s health has been impacted by lifestyle choices, and environmental exposure. Are you worrying about some ‘youtuber’s’ alarming message that some new chemical is making us all sick? CDC and universities across the country can study current and past blood samples and can sometimes associate an increase in a certain disease, with the introduction of some new chemical leading to warnings about its use. But other studies can and do also, at times, put people’s mind at ease by showing that some new chemical has not been absorbed in people’s blood and shouldn’t be banned or worried about. It’s literally science at work.

Remember hearing in the news a few years ago about parents in TIMES BEACH, MO worrying that their children had been exposed to DIOXIN that had been illegally sprayed on the roads of trailer parks to hold down dust. I remember going to public hearings where the Highway Patrol was holding back angry crowds of parents who wanted to know whether their kids would die of cancer. At the time we had to tell them that the only way to know for sure whether their child had absorbed dioxin was to painfully slice a large piece of adipose tissue from their child’s hip and run a somewhat unreliable lab test. Within weeks, CDC had developed a simple and much more accurate test that could be made by simply drawing a sample of the child’s blood. Problem solved.

FOOD RECALLS Have you ever thrown away meat or fruit or vegetables that have been recalled? It’s often because CDC has discovered a link between people getting sick and dying and their having eaten at a certain restaurant chain or eaten meat from a certain packing plant or grapes from some South American farm. How’s that work? Well, physicians and labs are required to report and send to CDC lab samples of every case of certain reportable diseases known to kill people. CDC compiles and studies that data and when it sees that people in a certain area of the country are sick or dying from the same illness, they begin interviewing people about where and what they ate. They can trace an illness to a certain restaurant, or grocery store, and even meat sold in that store that came from a certain packing plant. It’s impossible to calculate the lives saved from these recalls that happen all the time and silently protect us from illness and death.

Remember the panic we felt in this country when someone died in a Texas hospital from just one - yes one- EBOLA case that had been imported from Africa. Catching Ebola at that time was an almost certain death sentence causing a person to die within just a few days bleeding from every oriface in their body. CDC’s then director, Dr. Tom Frieden, saw the disease spreading like wildfire in the West African countries of Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. He predicted that international travel would import the dreaded disease to the U.S. unless CDC helped stop it over there. He asked for CDC volunteers to leave their safe labs and research facilities in Atlanta and volunteeer to travel to West Africa, and risk exposing themselves to this deadly disease to help contain the disease; so it couldn’t come here. 2,000 - yes 2,000 - CDC staff volunteered and did go over and helped stop the disease in its tracks. They did so knowing that if they hopped in a taxi there that had just transported a sick, sweating ebola victim to a hospital, that a simple scratch on their hand on the seat of the taxi could mean certain death. I had one friend kiss his 12-year old daughter goodby as he dropped her off on her first day of school, and then boarded an airplane to go fight Ebola, knowing there was a chance he would never see her again. I have a picture of another friend who left her air-conditioned, bio-safety level four lab in Atlanta. She is working in full protective garb, in 100 degree weather, in a makeshift lab that was a steel cargo container. Other CDC friends, - young women - slept on open spring beds on the floor of a rat infested, abandoned home, while working to contain the disease. These ‘bureaucrats’ are likely some of the same 2,000 CDC staff that were summarily fired on Tuesday of this week.

Remember the sad news a couple of weeks ago about Gene Hackman’s wife dying from HANTAVIRUS? Years ago CDC was called on to investigate what was killing so many native americans living in the southwest. They discovered that as people were sweeping their floors clean from rodent droppings, they were aerosolyzing and then breathing in Hantavirus. With proper prevention, problem solved.

People often die from deadly HOSPITAL-ACQUIRED INFECTIONS they catch while in the hospital for other reasons. Hospitals of course never advertise that they have an antibiotic resistant disease problem, but they can quietly seek CDC’s help in finding and solving the problem. In one case years ago, patients kept dying from infections acquired in certain operating suites in a hospital. Despite fully disinfecting the suites after each surgery, and despite none of the surgical suite staff showing any symptoms of infection, patients continued to die. An article several years ago in National Geographic magazine documented how CDC solved the problem. CDC came in and had staff run in place in the middle of a circle of petri dishes on the floor. One of the surgical suite nurses ‘lit up’ every petri dish as her body threw off antibiotic resistant disease germs. Problem solved. It’s impossible to know how many lives in how many hospitals have been saved by CDC’s efforts to find and solve difficult cases of hospital-acquired infections.

I remember as a young man meeting a retired Minister of Health from some South American country who told me, “Son, you think you know CDC, but but you don’t begin to understand its importance. It’s an accepted fact among Ministers of Health around the world that, If they have a health problem they can’t solve, and only one place to go for help, it will ALWAYS be CDC.’’ A few years later I learned that the Minister of Health for PANAMA had called CDC saying, “I’m about to be fired because children down here are getting sick and dying, but only if they enter the hospital - and I can’t discover why this is happening.” CDC asked for lab samples. A CDC scientist met the plane on the runway at 2:00 in the morning, ran the samples to a CDC lab, and by early that same morning CDC had discovered the problem. The Panamanian hospital was using a Chinese-manufactured generic form of liquid Tylenol to treat fevers in kids. The problem: the liquid had accidentally been sweetened with a poisonous form of anti-freeze. The problem was solved not just for Panama, but likelly for hospitals in this country who might have ordered that same contaminated product.

THERE IS A REASON WHY SO MANY FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING CHINA, HAVE A PREVENTIVE HEALTH ORGANIZATION CALLED ‘CDC’ - EVEN THOUGH ‘CDC’ MEANS NOTHING IN THEIR LANGUAGE. It’s because they so deeply admire, respect, and want to emulate the life saving work of the world’s most renowned and successful preventive health organization: The United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, CDC.


r/fednews 22h ago

:Army_starmark: Verified News Organization :Army_starmark: DOGE Is Planning a Hackathon at the IRS. It Wants Easier Access to Taxpayer Data

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r/fednews 14h ago

DRP 2.0 Just Dropped at the IRS

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Check your inbox folks, round two for DRP has been sent.


r/fednews 10h ago

Why is no one talking about RIFs being a violation of the Impoundment Act?

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Isn’t this a possible way for the RIFs to be found illegal? I’m not a lawyer, but this seems like an a big issue with what’s happening right now. To my understanding they created the Impoundment Act because Nixon was trying to gut programs he didn’t like even though congress had already budgeted for those programs. So… exactly like what’s happening now, right? What am I missing?

“Under the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which was passed during former President Richard Nixon's administration, presidents are prohibited from withholding money to federal agencies after Congress legislates spending levels. Additionally, Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution explicitly grants Congress the power of the purse, saying the legislative branch alone has the power to "lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States."


r/fednews 15h ago

DRP 2.0 for IRS offered today.

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Email came out today. Sorry for any copy errors.

Treasury is offering a second and final Deferred Resignation Program (DRP 2.0) with applications accepted between Monday, April 7, 2025, through April 14, 2025 Thes program will merror the bonetes of the first offering including paid administrative leave through September 30, 2025 Employees electing the program will offboard no later than September 30, 2025, unless they choose to offboard sooner

Treasury is offering DRP 2.0 to most permanent and term employees, including employees in their probationary or trial periods. However bureaus may choose to exclude certain mission critical offices, functions, or individuals. For this reason, your application to participate in the DRP does not automatically entille you to participate. You can expect to hear more from your bureau about which positions are not eligible for DRP 2.0 due to mission cubicality

Should you be deemed eligible to participate in DRP 2.0, you may be able to start administrative leave as early as April 28, 2025, and generally no Inter than June 2, 2025 (employees over 40 years of age maintain their right to 45 days to consider the terms of the DRP 2.0 agreement but could at the employee's sole discretion, sign the agreement at any time prior to the expiration of the 45 days. After signing and dating the agreement, the employees retain the right to revoke the agreement for 7 days)

Starting Monday, employees will be able to visit an online portal to accept DRP 2.0. Employees who are unable to access the portal can submit their application for DRP 2.0 via email or through their supervisor. As with the first DRP, DRP 2.0 will requare signing an agreement. After electing DRP, your Human Resources Office will verify your eligibility and contact you to begin the offboarding process. If you have any questions on this program, please contact your servicing Human Resources Office

Additionally, Treasury has obtained Voluntary Early Retirement Authority (VERA). Employees who are at least ago 50 with at least 20 years of croditable Federal service, or any age with at least 25 years of creditable Federal service, are eligible for VERA Should you be eligible for VERA after September 30, 2025, but before December 31, 2025, you may select to rotire, and your separation date will be the earliest date on which you are eligibile to retire

If you choose to remain in your current position, we thank you for your renewed focus on serving the Amencan people to the best of your abilities and look forward to working together as part of an improved and streamlined federal workforce. At this time, we cannot give you full assurance regarding which postions will remain or where they will be localed after Treasury's restructuring, but should your position be eliminated you will be afforded the protections in place for separations under such circumstances.

If you choose not to continue in your current role in the federal workforce, we thank you for your service to your country. If you resign under thes program, you will stam all pay and benefits, regardless of your daily workload and you will be exempted from all applicable in-person work quraments unts September 30, 2025 (or earlier if you choose to accelerate your resignation for any reason)

Many of the Frequently Asked Questions about the DRP program are available at https://www.sompovorka and in Offers Freszamotte AM Questcess on severancements in the event of Reductions For


r/fednews 5h ago

59% of Forest Service Land under threat

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https://apnews.com/article/trump-national-forests-emergency-logging-rollins-e2d7173bedcc697dee56f94ab613276f

claims to be lifting restrictions due to forest fire concerns, but we all know the truth. Can anyone in USDA or Forest Service elaborate or share their experience?


r/fednews 1d ago

Leaked Memo Reveals Insane Ban. The Department of Agriculture is no longer allowed to use the phrase “safe drinking water.”

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r/fednews 1h ago

SSA Voluntary Reassignment Decision Paralysis

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I work in HQ in a non mission critical position. My work directly supports the field but would not be considered essential and our component will be reorganized. I have 10 yrs of service. When the first survey came out for voluntary reassignment (VR) - I indicated my interest bc I was convinced RIFs would affect me and I was scared.

Eventually I was offered a GS-11 Claims Specialist position in an FO. I declined the position due to location.

Now, Monday’s deadline is fast approaching for a “last call” of accepting VR. I understand they would offer me the original offer again if I volunteered. There’s no contact info in the email, the original email says no negotiation. Everyone I spoke to at HQ all seem to be holding the line which I want to do too. But I also worry we could be gutted like HHS and I have decision paralysis. I go from being okay with my decision to not accept - to then panicking that I should accept the demotion. I know cruelty is the point. I give up all future legal rights to appeal if I accept.

I would really like to hear from anyone in the same boat - anyone who keeps flip flopping ahead of Monday’s deadline. Are you still on the fence? Everyone I spoke to seems of the mentality “if I get RIFed I get RIFEd” and the job market in the DMV seems so tight, I don’t know how everyone’s not panicking. Help me feel better that I’m not alone if you are. Is there a way to contact whoever is making the reassignments offer? Has anyone successfully negotiated the offer they received?

Thanks for reading.


r/fednews 1d ago

Lack of empathy among friends

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Hi all I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing a lack of empathy from their friends about their job loss. I can't tell you how many people have said to me sorry you're about you're losing your job, but you're very talented person so I'm sure you'll find work somewhere else. I feel like when somebody adds the butt to their sorry statement that it completely negates any genuine empathy that they have. It's like when people don't know well offer you condolences and simply say I'm sorry if your loss.

What people don't realize is that for many of us our federal service is a big part of our identity. Most people who come to federal civil service have a desire to help people and a desire to serve. That's not something that gets recognized or rewarded in the private sector. Additionally, most people don't realize how scary it is to be over the age of 45 and looking for work for the first time in 20 plus years.

There needs to be some retraining benefits offered to us and paid by the federal government since this elimination of jobs is not due to our performance but due to The Madness of one Donald J Trump.


r/fednews 15h ago

Tell key senators to get some balls

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r/fednews 17h ago

RIF whiplash and why reinstatement rights matter.

225 Upvotes

You're fired. You're not fired. You're fired. You're a ballerina. You're hired again. Fuck you. You're fired.

We've all seen agencies fire and unfire people. It's important to remember that even if you don't immediately get rehired, I promise you, be it 6 months or a year from now the government is going to have to post jobs to rehire a bunch of people because they messed up. They messed up bad. People who are RIFd get reinstatement preference for 2 years. So even if you get let go, don't give up.


r/fednews 14h ago

DRP 2.0 IRS | It’s happening!

131 Upvotes

I have Outlook access in my phone, and at 6:09pm (CST), I got the email about the DRP 2.0. Per the email, “This program will mirror the benefits of the first offering including paid administrative leave through September 30, 2025”.


r/fednews 21h ago

Federal Unions leading the Hands Off Rally in DC

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The Eastside of the Washington Monument is almost all Feds


r/fednews 12h ago

So drp2.0 hit irs. If irs has a mass exodus.

77 Upvotes

What do you all think will happen. I can see these cluster fucks going into full blown panic mode! And they might even try to deny people from taking drp 2.0


r/fednews 13h ago

DRP 2.0 email released from the Treasury

86 Upvotes

Surprise surprise, another Saturday email to ruin your Monday morning. DRP 2.0 will be waiting for you in your outlook for Monday morning.

If you choose to remain in your current position, we thank you for your renewed focus on serving the American people to the best of your abilities and look forward to working together as part of an improved and streamlined Federal workforce. At this time we cannot give you the full Assurance regarding which positions will remain or where there will be located after treasuries restructuring.

This seems like a scare tactic to push people more towards a DRP again.


r/fednews 9h ago

So many “what RIFs are coming” posts…

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I have seen sooooo many posts asking when and where RIFs are coming and the answer is no one knows! We aren’t meant to know. That’s the whole point of this psychological game! What you should believe is, some RIFs have already happened and more will happen. That you can be sure of.