r/FormulaE Robin Frijns 5d ago

Video I Raced Formula E Drivers (and was surprised)

https://youtu.be/E3pYh9NNXZ4?si=qaZm95sLFUfwfQYC
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u/l3w1s1234 Robin Frijns 5d ago edited 5d ago

Cool video and gives some technical insight into the braking on an FE car or maybe lack thereof on a Lola FE car

I wonder if the issues he was experiencing with the brakes is Lola specific and if some teams have different counter measures built in. Seemed like it was too easy to muck up the braking/trigger the emergency brakes. Then again they do all talk about the braking being hard to adjust too, so maybe just the case up and down the field.

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u/froakingbarlow Formula E 5d ago

I’ve had a go on a Formula E sim and the braking is completely different. The brake was just a pad that measured how much force you applied and there’s no travel on the pad either which catches you out and you apply more force and suddenly your car is stopped on track.

Very different to the stiff Formula 1 ones where you need to apply loads of force. No idea if the actual cars are like the sim I went on, but if they are I can totally see how someone who spent their whole life driving with stiff brake pads could repeatedly have that issue when pushing too much too soon.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

I will say that was unique to the sim you drove. Im currently working a formula e sim that has a real brake pedal

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u/todamach Formula E 5d ago

what sim are you working on?

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

The current unit is using simagic equipment. But it varies weekly. The series has an official partner with rfactor so all the official content is there on the software side

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Was an incredible event and I can't wait for more of these videos to come out

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u/l3w1s1234 Robin Frijns 5d ago

A shame there hasn't been more videos from the event yet. Been quite sporadic for something that was meant to plug the gap.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

There should be a documentary about it this summer from what I was told

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u/AdThink972 Formula E 5d ago

with gen 4 i think its time to get rid of the mechanical brakes and have 100% regen. the emergency rear brake faulse triggers more than it helps. so just get rid of it and save some extra weight. regen have shown itself to be very reliable. u see more brake faliure in F1 than u see regen failure in FE

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u/Twisp56 Alexander Sims 3d ago

Can regen brakes actually bring it to zero speed? I thought it was quite difficult to come to a full stop with only regen.

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u/AdThink972 Formula E 3d ago edited 3d ago

yes. to come to a complete stop u can soley rely on regen. the problem is staying stopped if u are in a hill or something. that's why road cars still have mechanical brakes for that reason. but for FE it's not really needed. cus they rarely stop in hills. the pits are usually flat so thats not really a problem. in F1 the driver apply the brake during pit stops to stop the wheel spinning as they change tyres cus the torque from the wheel gun is huge. but in FE they don't swap tyres (yet) so no need for brakes. sure there can be a flat tyre but they usually just use a simple electric screw drivers.

also even if there is a small hill in a FE pitlane the teams can just add 2 people holding the car in place as they recharge or change tyre that is flat. 

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u/SloppySandCrab Formula E 4d ago edited 4d ago

This video seems really into himself and proving how he is validated in believing he could have competed at the top level however he never had any success in even the lower divisions of racing. Now all of the sudden he can compete on single lap pace with a pro?

Something just seems off about this whole thing. It seems like the pro benchmark was pretty conservative and this guy spent 3 days trying to get within a stones throw of it and somehow came away thinking he has what it takes. I wouldn’t be surprised if the car was detuned as well to be slower and easier to drive.

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u/l3w1s1234 Robin Frijns 4d ago

The FE drivers only got 10 minutes of track time in the dry I believe to set a lap. Whereas the content creators got two 20 minute sessions. He also got to go at the end of the day which may have been best track conditions, whereas the FE drivers in the morning with a less rubbered in track.

However, it is still impressive to be close enough that these caveats even matter. I think fair for him to find some validation in it, especially if he always struggled funding his racing career to be able to compete at higher levels.

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u/SloppySandCrab Formula E 4d ago edited 4d ago

I mean, he didn’t exactly emerge from rags to riches either. The BOSS GP success he references came from a Benetton V10 F1 car delivered by his team owner father with “Mansell Motorsport”.

Im sure he didn’t have tens of millions in funding but he had a lot more opportunities than many people who are more successful.

He clearly isn’t talentless but he also clearly didn’t have what it took to be successful in motorsport. Using this pseudo test as some form of validation that he could be up there competing for an F1 seat is wild to me.

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u/Technical-Map1456 Formula E 4d ago

hey, that was a neat breakdown of the track differences. the way extra time can boost performance got me thinking about opportunities for creators off the track too. it's interesting how extra chances can really level the playing field. have you noticed similar trends with content creators in other industries?

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u/Technical-Map1456 Formula E 4d ago

hey, i’ve noticed that too. when creators get that extra shot, it really opens up more opportunities. i’ve seen digital platforms help talent get noticed in entertainment too. what kind of changes have you seen where creators in other fields are getting those extra moments?

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u/richardbaxter Formula E 4d ago

This was a really good one. Nice result for Scott!