r/HumansBeingBros • u/butternutssquished • 16h ago
An emergency services worker in Mexico prevents someone's suicide attempt, on a bridge, with no safety equipment.
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u/sjmorris 11h ago
Side note, as a resident of Nova Scotia I can't believe there is a Scotiabank in Mexico
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u/Chivo_565 10h ago
Scotiabank has a very strong presence in Latin America. They operate in Chile, Dominican Republic, Mexico, Perú, Uruguay just to name a few.
Scotiabank is a global bank.
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u/SandMallDay 16h ago
I'm glad people are still like this. Everyone is just as worth saving. Family or not. Good for both of them.
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u/butternutssquished 16h ago
Original post from u/bendubberley_ it wouldn’t let me cross post it from r/nextfuckinglevel
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u/CarnelianCore 14h ago
I wonder why you altered the title from police officer to emergency worker.
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u/SportsCommercials 11h ago
How do we know he's a police officer? Could be that other type of "emergency service worker" that carries a gun.
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u/uclamutt 4h ago
What a Hero! Hope neither got seriously hurt because that looks like it could be an ankle breaking type of jump!
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u/neurofoxic 16h ago
Dude sees the official putting on safety equipment and he jumps. I agree if this were a controlled environment then 100% there should be a harness but this looks like masterful employment of on-the-spot decision-making
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u/hornet586 11h ago
I mean, like a broom handle or any sort of pole would do wonders here too, like there no good way to balance on that rail, and one good shove from behind would probably send him back into the crowd lol
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u/Crisp_Parchment 14m ago
I don't really think that we have the right to intervene and like you know people have the right to do what they want to do with their lies here to say what they can and can't do
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u/Tzaman6 15h ago
Wait. Is it illegal to attempt suicide? So is this guy gonna get arrested after he gets saved?
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u/Melodic_monke 14h ago
I am pretty sure its legal, but you will likely be put in a mental institution for some time, if you are lucky it will help, if not, you need to help yourself.
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u/Oppowitt 13h ago
The only job the state has here is making sure there's no public suicide. Anything else is extra.
It's not about saving the guy, it's about not having a dead guy, a crowd, and a big bad story.
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u/Wonderful_Maybe_4464 9h ago
The way it was explained to me, it's considered "illegal" with a heavy asterisk to allow police to enter a home or intervene to try and save you, they can enter a home without warrant if they have reason to believe a crime is taking place. So if suicide is illegal that can be their reason enough
Full disclosure, I'm not super informed about any of this, and it could be different elsewhere, that's just how it was explained by my teacher
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u/Sufficient_Self_7235 15h ago
Seriously ? We should stop trying to save people who don't want to live anymore, and instead provide them with a painless & instant way to ctb.
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u/coco-ai 15h ago
Have you ever watched the episode of You Can't Ask That with suicide survivors? All of them except one regretted it. This is a common refrain. Many realised they truly wanted to live, right at the moment they could not. Many people in their darkest moments just want help. This person gets another chance to decide if they do.
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u/Worried-Basket5402 15h ago
Great response. The day we just let people die without even trying to save them through conversation or action, is the day we are a doomed society.
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u/Fit_Flower_8982 9h ago
It is worth noting that, if people were allowed to die in a dignified and painless way, we could also make some prior demands that would allow us to help them; it is not mutually exclusive with respecting the right to decide about their own existence.
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u/Sufficient_Self_7235 14h ago
That show prbly had selection bias. A significant number of suicide survivors, both offline and online, have told me they wished no one (people, the state, police, etc.) had stopped them, and instead had provided a painless alternative to CTB.
Some are too scared to attempt again due to fear of failing and having no access to painless methods (as it's illegal in most countries). Their voices matter too.
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u/KOTS44 14h ago
It's not just the show, it's represented in studies and statistics. I'm sure the people you've spoken to have said what they said but you don't have an acceptable sample size to determine that. As of now, most of those who have attempted suicide go on to regret their choice.
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u/Fit_Flower_8982 10h ago
There will always be an inherent bias here, since the dead cannot be asked. Only those who did not do so for lack of determination or skill, nor did they do so later (yet).
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u/KOTS44 10h ago
There will always be an inherent bias here, since the dead cannot be asked.
I don't think that matters at all, since if the attempters who took part in the study were never stopped, they would also be part of the dead, meaning their say in the study holds just as much weight as someone who is also dead (and if they could respond)
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u/Fit_Flower_8982 9h ago
Let me rephrase that. I think those who would not have regretted doing it are also the ones who had the greatest determination to do it, and thus the ones who used the most direct and aggressive methods, the least likely to be cowed by fear, and much more likely to try again if they fail.
That would imply that they are drastically underrepresented, although they certainly could still be the absolute minority.
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u/Sufficient_Self_7235 14h ago
There is no study that accurately shows the actual regret rate. Even the ones that do provide such rates often rely on very small sample sizes.
Most other studies only show that the majority did not attempt again, but that can be due to various other reasons, including those I mentioned above, such as fear of failing again or lack of access to painless methods.
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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang 11h ago
So all the studies ever done aren't thorough enough but your claimed personal anecdotal experience is more than thorough enough for you to come to definitive conclusions....
Righto.
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u/Sufficient_Self_7235 11h ago
Very few studies on regret rates actually, and yes the sample sizes are extremely small, biased to be accurate. Nothing wrong with arguing for personal freedom when it comes to taking one's own life.
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u/KOTS44 10h ago
The sample sizes are extremely small you say, yet the number of people you've spoken, is even smaller. Making your own anecdotal experience even more inaccurate. 🤦♂️
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u/Sufficient_Self_7235 10h ago
I never claimed to know the percentage of people who regret it versus those who don't. I'm just saying that a lot of people who don't regret it also exist. It makes one question the ethics of forcefully stopping someone's attempt.
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u/KOTS44 10h ago
I never claimed to know the percentage of people who regret it versus those who don't.
I mean that holds significant importance to determine whether people should forcefully stop someone's attempt or not.
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u/EoghanBD 13h ago
"The biggest study done isnt big enough, but i know what the exact outcome would be if the study was the right size, that I also arbitrarily made up"
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u/Nunyrgarza 12h ago
Sure you’re getting downvoted because it’s an ugly/scary subject, but I think you’re right to bring it up.
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u/always_some_thing 4h ago
Shame you're being downvoted to oblivion. Why is it so hard for people to accept that there may be rational, well thought out reasons, someone might not want to live anymore.
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u/Bitter-Heat-8767 15h ago
Yea I’m in the same boat, for the most part. It wasn’t your choice to be here anyways. Ending your own life is the ultimate freedom.
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u/A_Binary_Number 12h ago
Yes, I never asked to be here, I want to be free, I never asked to be born already broken, I want to no be broken. I don’t want to live my life, there is no “it gets better” it only gets worse, there is no “joy” on living this nightmare that is my life, if I could give someone else’s my spot, I would, because I don’t want it.
Yet, extremely egotistical people will say that I’m wrong.
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u/According_Judge781 11h ago
This isn't how you stop a suicide. This is how you delay a suicide.
There's a reason it's called "talking someone down from a ledge" and not "forcing someone down from a ledge"
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u/Iridescent_Glitter5 10h ago
There’ll be plenty of time for talking now that the dude isn’t on the ledge though. In a much calmer environment like a therapist’s office or a hospital room maybe 🤔
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u/According_Judge781 8h ago
Yeah, I'm sure the system will give him all the help he needs... It's obviously done a terrific job so far. /s
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u/Iridescent_Glitter5 6h ago
Do you know his medical history? Do you know if he’s sought out therapy before? Many men do not - especially in Mexican culture which is notorious for machismo: the emphasis on exaggerated masculinity, strength, and male pride.
If you personally never found therapy beneficial then that’s fine. But your projection onto others isn’t useful. Plus, that wasn’t your original argument in the first place - so now I think you’re just determined to be displeased with a video of someone saving a life.
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u/According_Judge781 5h ago
So you're thinking forced therapy? Lmao
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u/Iridescent_Glitter5 5h ago
No, I’m thinking encouraging therapy. He can always decline - but at least he is now off the ledge and every effort can be made to encourage him to go and potentially save his life.
Maybe a therapist can be brought into his room at the ER to talk to him. A therapist usually is able to handle these situations better than cops and civilians.
If he wants to leave after that - that’s on him. I’m not sure if Mexico has anything similar to The Baker Act we have here though, where you can be held against your will if you’re suicidal.
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u/According_Judge781 5h ago
Mildly worrying that you don't even realise how well you just proved my point.
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u/omnichronos 5h ago
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u/According_Judge781 5h ago
I said he should've been talked down, not pushed down. Your article doesn't talk about suicide prevention methods.
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u/splatdyr 14h ago
FFS don’t post people’s suicide attempts on the internet for points. They deserve better and you are a heartless bastard.
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u/Undead0707 14h ago
This person didn't post a suicide attempt. He posted the stopping of one. This post is meant to appreciate the one who stopped it.
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u/WuggleBuggy 15h ago
As a suicide survivor, I can honestly say, yes I wanted to end my life but at the same time, I'm glad they found me in time. You don't know how it is to scream into the wind every day thinking no one can hear me. I hated every second I was alive but was hopeful about what could be. It's a never ending battle that can never truly be won. I still struggle every day if I should end it now or wait for the promise of tomorrow. I don't know what it is that makes me feel this way. I've been to therapy, I've been on the drugs, they don't seem to help. I have my puppy and I have my kitty. They keep me here. I'm not saying people like me need to find a responsibility but you have to find something. Something you love, something you would give everything for. My puppy is my everything. She loves unconditionally. There is no hate, no malice. I served, I swore, I protected. When I came home I was met with shrugs. I lost my job, my wife, my child. But my puppy, she never judged. That unconditional love is why I'm still here. If she can do it why cant we?