r/KendrickLamar Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 1d ago

Discussion GNX is the Stillmatic to GKMC's Illmatic

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Today, one year ago, J. Cole released 7 Minute Drill.

I, unlike most people, actually kinda liked it; that being said, despite the fact that at that point I knew Cole only from features, and I knew Kendrick from even less, Cole said one thing that made me know Kendrick would dominate go on to win in such a one-sided fashion in the years to come.

For whatever reason, Cole decided to quote Jay-Z's "Takeover," and in doing so, whether or not he was comparing Kendrick with 01 Nas.

7 Months later, Kendrick dropped GNX, which I believe validated this comparison.

  1. The Victory Lap. This one is the most obvious. Both albums come on the heel, winning an era-defining undisputed rap beef against arguably the biggest rap star of their time, and carry an accordingly celebratory energy to them. This is probably the best show in GNX's 'TV Off' and Stillmatic's 'Got Urself a Gun'
  2. Building hip-hop from the ground up. While celebratory, both albums also contain themes of a grand restructuring of hip-hop. To quote Nas on 'Destroy and Rebuild,' "There's no more room for jealousy, we destroying and rebuilding. That means the cowards get out and the real niggas stay". Kendrick carries this same energy on 'Wacced Out Murals.' like Nas on 'Destroy and Rebuild,' he spends much of the song calling out people he seems to respect for behavior he deems unloyal or jealous genuinely. I also think the way Nas shoutout Slick Rick can be compared to the "Won the SuperBowl" line.
  3. Reclaiming the throne. This is where J. quoting Jay comes into play. Illmatic was an instant classic, making Nas next in line to be the king of NY. But after his sophomore Album, It Was Written, another classic album, Nas's following few projects were not exactly of the same caliber, and some were even starting to claim that Nas had fallen off. This supposed falloff is what gave Jay Z the confidence to say the line that J. Cole would go on to quote. Ether and Stillmatic as a whole were essentially a response to the "1 hot album every 10-year average" allegations. Throughout the project, he asserts his title as King of NY both by directly asserting his claim in Ether and the aforementioned songs and by flexing his unparalleled abilities in songs like One Mic and Rewind. GKMC also was an instant classic that propelled Kendrick into the King of Rap conversations. Kendrick faced similar washed allegations after his hiatus and MMAtBS. And Just like Nas, he took out the biggest star prior to the album, then proceeded to make direct claims to the throne and rapped his ass off throughout
  4. This is just for misc things that are kinda short, so they don't warrant their own bullet or are more about the beefs than the albums a. Man at The Garden. This speaks for itself.

b. Stillmatic shows love to Queensbridge and NYC in a way Nas hadn't done since Illmati;c likewise, GNX shows love to Compton and California in a way Kendrick hasn't since MaaD City

c. The way Ether dropped on Jay Z's birthday parrels how Kendrick was dropping in beef

d. I heard on a podcast once that Prodigy thought Nas was taking too long to respond to Takeover. Also, Ether and Euphoria both start with an E

e. GNX starts with a G and has a vehicle on the album cover, just like GKMC. Coincidence? yeah probably

f. There are more parrels, but I don't want to sit here all day listing them, so please feel free to reply with some.

g. I was gonna edit the GNX album cover to be in the style of Stillmatic (with a tiny Grand National in place of the Pigeon), but I don't even have the skills to make the jacket orange.

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u/PsychologicalFile771 1d ago

I have a theory that GNX is sort of a 'career reset' or homage to how far he's come since GKMC. I had other pieces to this theory that I've forgotten now, but the main piece was the van being his vehicle to learn about rap and find out who he is within the 'mad city' he grew up in and the GNX being him using his prior 'vehicle' to get him to the top of the game and he now has everything he wanted and now he has the GNX that he dreamed about while riding around in that van.

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u/Sea_Description9555 1d ago

I think GNX brings the “Kendrick Lamar” story full circle. I’m not a conspiracy theorist fan so I don’t think it’s intentional but the way GKMC ends with his mom asking him to bring back her car. She also tells him to make music that they can step to. She ends the song by saying tell the black and brown kids from Compton his story of how he rose to be a positive person.

I feel like from GKMC to Damn Dot is trying (and realistically failing) to save the world by telling his story. I think he realized he failed, put the savior complex to side and told his story from the most honest perspective (Mr. Morale). After the album and the beef he was finally able to get back to what he originally intended which was making music for his parents to step too. But now it’s his car he driving

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u/playfreeze 1d ago

The second paragraph would be a dope premise if he ever has a biopic

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u/championofmankind 22h ago

Also, peep how the cars are oriented on the gkmc and GNX album covers. The GNX is facing away from us, while Dot is looking directly at us. I get that what he’s doing is a classic rap thing where the rapper is leaning on their car, but I kinda see this as him looking back at his career and getting ready to move on to something else. If you peep his pre Super Bowl interview he does talk about wanting to be present in the now. So this imagery on the GNX album cover is representative of that mentality.

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u/Palangoma 1d ago

One mic and man at the garden are so similar to me

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u/ComradeHregly Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 1d ago

Yeah, that was 100% an intentional homage.
Nas even posted the song on IG

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u/Eddiekane94 1d ago

Same drums

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u/DYMck07 Backseat Freeloader 16h ago edited 16h ago

Without a doubt, Kendrick is entering his second phase with GNX in the same way Nas did on stillmatic.

Nas has been my #1 since It was written was popping (I was a little young to fully appreciate Illmatic when it first dropped as much as I did later, I am might be the first album I got my own cd for).

It’s beef centered, got big upped by Nas, man at the garden/one mic, it’s region centered (“This is a journey into the world's most largest And notorious projects, Queensbridge Listen while Nas saves his hood from the most cowardest rappers” - destroy and rebuild), has some of the most creative conceptual tracks in “Rewind” and “reincarnated”, both come on the heels of their least commercially successful and most critically panned albums, Nastradamus and Mr Morale & TBS, both being the first albums on their new label (ill will records and pglang respectively- note MMTBS was a joint production with TDE), I’m sure the list goes on but I’ll leave it at that and say I hope Kendrick continues through a second and third phase the way Nas has. He’s capable of it.

Also if you don’t think Nastradamus had potential (I love mr morale btw) I implore you to listen to MF Doom’s remix NASTRADOOMUS it’s the same lyrically but over more suitable beats.

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u/ComradeHregly Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 1d ago

I'll excuse myself now

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u/MasterofDads 1d ago

He is the OP

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u/ComradeHregly Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 1d ago

Pardon?

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u/DubDaDon 1d ago

You heard him. Now say you’re sorry to yourself OP. NOW

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u/ComradeHregly Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 1d ago

u/ComradeHregly, I'm sorry for being disrespectful.
That wasn't cool.

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u/ComradeHregly Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 1d ago

KYS

12.18.001.024.11

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u/unlogical13 1d ago

Moron lol

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u/Icy-Rock8780 1d ago

It’s fine

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u/EliasThePerson1 gkmc glazer 1d ago

Yeah like OP should definitely apologize to himself

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u/ZorroMcChucknorris 1d ago

fuck jay z

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u/Own_Reach986 1d ago

Do it

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u/NickH267 1d ago

Diddy?

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u/BigClarendon125 1d ago

R.O.C get gunned up and glapped quick

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u/Afraid_Olive_9305 1d ago

Slightly more mainstream sound

Released in the midst of beef with the biggest hip hop artist in the world

Signifies a mainstream renaissance for him

Comeback after what's considered his weakest album

...you might be on to something here

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u/Appropriate_Ratio465 1d ago

dont know why reception towards stillmatic soured over the years, i think Nas did the commercial approach great on that album, so many catchy tunes.

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u/budgoldberg601 1d ago

The highs were super high for me but cohesively i can’t call it a classic

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u/dunbar_santiago930 7h ago

That's exactly that the OP is stating cuz GNX is definitely radio friendly more than any other album

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u/Baajjii 1 2 3 4 5 + 5 1d ago

I agree they have the same energy.

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u/DiKDiK316 1d ago

Just relistened to stillmatic, if anyone hasn’t listened give it a shot. Shit is so good

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u/metaltyranitar 1d ago

Never really fked w Stillmatic in it's entirety, but I had it on repeat between Dec and March.

Underrated track - 'You da man' and 'what goes around'

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u/tarekeisa1 13h ago

Two of my favorite tracks on that album actually!

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u/DiKDiK316 12h ago

I love it. Ether obviously, but one mic, Destroy & rebuild and got ur self a gun are also some of my favs

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u/sleepingbusy 1d ago

Iono bout that. Don't think there's a track that comes close to rewind on gnx. Both are great albums but they achieved different goals.

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u/ComradeHregly Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 1d ago

I agree about Rewind. But I feel like the albums have very similar goals as I laid out in the post.

At the very least, to the same extent as GKMC does to Illmatic, which is a pretty old comparison.

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u/OurNewInsectOverlord 1d ago

Reincarnated

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u/Silver6Rocket 1d ago

i was stargazing

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u/Key-Perception4956 1d ago

Great comparison

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u/Doodamajiger 1d ago

Holy shits it’s been more than a year since like that dropped it still feels like a few months ago

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u/Mistful_Sunrise 1d ago

what? GNX came out in november lol

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u/Turbulent-Opinion-86 23h ago

Stillmatic is probably the most nostalgic album for me imo. i think i was only 11/12 when i found this disc sitting outside of my old neighborhood. i forgot how it happened but i ended up playing the songs on my family's old pc & it was never the same lol

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u/TheWriter_Watcher 16h ago

Great take. GNX felt like a victory lap and a reset for Hip-Hip on the mainstream level, especially after defeating a Goliath like star that takes pride in dumbing down the culture. Although, it was a diss to Kendrick, even Aka-chipmunk said gimmick rappers are afraid to drop because of Kendrick (paraphrasing).

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u/tonylouis1337 15h ago

That's actually a great take

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u/AskSevere8334 22h ago

Good read

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u/parr3tt 13h ago

This is actually a great comparison. Stillmatic is one of my favorite Nas projects too. I also think Destroy and Rebuild has the sentiments of how K Dots is trying to do just that to hip hop culture. Thats also one of my favorite diss tracks from Nas. I also loved when I would hear Rule while watching Like Mike lol

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u/beorn961 1d ago

It Was Written is the best Nas album of all time.

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u/Xerolaw_ 1d ago

I can see this

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u/AnAverageFlight 11h ago

I can only hope for a Nasir from Dot (Kanye-Prod Album)

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u/woodspoonwarrior 3h ago

Unpopular opinion: Nas > Pac & Biggie

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u/Snooze_U_Lose 1h ago

Yeah totally except those Kenny albums couldn't hope to be the shadow of those Nas albums. Sorry but just stop with these dumb ass comparisons. Kenny is a poet, not a rapper. He couldn't make a good song to save his life. He makes deep af poetry though. Just stay in your lane.

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u/ripjesus 1d ago

Gkmc is iww

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u/ComradeHregly Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 1d ago

What makes you say that besides them both being Sophmore albums?

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u/ripjesus 1d ago

Similar themes

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u/ComradeHregly Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 1d ago

Could you elaborate?

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u/ripjesus 1d ago

Both albums are stories of liberation

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u/ComradeHregly Who up pimping their butterfly rn? 11h ago

Ehh I feel like that's a pretty weak comparison.

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u/ripjesus 11h ago

No worries

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u/1l3v4k4m 1d ago

lmao what? have u even listened to it was written? GNX is not even close to bring kendrick's best while it was written is arguably nas' best album. not to mention the sheer difference in quality when you actually listen to both albums

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u/Sea_Description9555 1d ago

Reread the comment

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u/AleckTheSus Mmatbs is top 3 Kendrick 17h ago

Nas looks so tuff in the Stillmatic cover art 😫😫😫

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u/WorkerOk6991 REINCARNATED & HEART V R THE SONGS OF THE CENTURY 1d ago

Well Gnx is way better tho

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u/Feeling_Swedish592 1d ago

than?

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u/WorkerOk6991 REINCARNATED & HEART V R THE SONGS OF THE CENTURY 1d ago

Stillmatic

Illmatic a masterpiece and gnx is a cool ass album, its another ligue to compare both

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u/obtainstocks 1d ago

GNX is not better than Stillmatic lmao

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u/BigClarendon125 1d ago

I love GNX but Ether and One Mic alone solo the whole album

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u/WorkerOk6991 REINCARNATED & HEART V R THE SONGS OF THE CENTURY 1d ago

Im a bit suspect to say cuz i never was that much into Nas honestly, i gotta admit

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u/Electrical-Round-724 1d ago

lmaoooooo dickriding went too far bruh