r/Layoffs 11d ago

news Bill Gates: Within 10 years, AI will replace many doctors and teachers—humans won’t be needed ‘for most things’

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u/UnfazedBrownie 11d ago

Remote and asynchronous schooling during the pandemic was a disaster. I don’t see all teachers being replaced by AI. Doctors - maybe the continued transition to PAs and nurses, but humans desire a human element to the encounter.

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u/Devmoi 11d ago

They can’t truly diagnose illnesses with remote healthcare. I mean, maybe AI will make it easier … but that’s just insane. All these jobs are going away? How will people survive if this is the case?

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u/UnfazedBrownie 11d ago

I don’t think they are thinking about the how will people survive question.

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u/Devmoi 11d ago

It really seems that way. I mean, look at all the backlash against Elon Musk right now. These idiots, even Gates, are so detached from reality. Is everyone going to buy a Tesla robot to be a one-in-all nurse, caretaker, and companion?

This whole AI nonsense is really just getting out of hand. They’ve spent so much time and money on it, I guess they want to be right about making themselves even richer while creating an insanely poor society that will gradually die off.

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u/Dash1992 11d ago

Go listen to Curtis Yarvin. He is the thought leader behind Theil and JD Vance and all these tech guys. He wants an authoritarian regime where the “unproductive” are not kept around. The billionaires are banking on a world with very few people where they are taken care of by robots and AI

Is this stupid, yes. Will it fail horribly, yes. Will their attempt to bring this about be catastrophic and do tons of damage and harm to people, also yes.

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u/MagikSundae7096 11d ago

Yes, Yes, the dark side is a path to abilities most consider....unnatural

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u/EggsInaTubeSock 10d ago

We’ve seen it approaching for a long time. The train is coming.

Universal basic income is something that should be a talking point in every election.

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u/Ok_Cauliflower163 8d ago

AI is not as significant as people claim. There is a lot of money invested in AI and they are promoting it as something that won't materialize for decades in order to keep valuations up.

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u/Inevitable_Profile24 10d ago

Capitalism doesn’t ask “what about the human beings” it just atomizes every thing and every one.

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u/Current_Speaker_5684 10d ago

Thank goodness we all have those billions of dollars to fall back on. Now we can concentrate on our hobbies, painting, poetry etc. /s

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u/latteofchai 11d ago

Corporate executives functionally cannot see beyond the next quarter. Number needs to go up. Everything else be damned. It’s how they think.

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u/VizualAbstract4 11d ago

Ai ain’t replacing shit in the long run. It’s just another tool to make people who already work in the field more efficient. People who lose their jobs now to AI are unfortunate victims of hopeful managers and executives looking to turn a quick buck.

Everyone is just falling for the hype.

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u/Devmoi 11d ago

Agreed! It’s all just stupid hype to make the fact that these idiot executive leaders sunk billions into AI. They were banking on it being the next big thing. And while it’s fun and I like using it, it absolutely does not replace people. Automation is a thing and has been forever. It’s still not going to replace every single worker!

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u/FreaktasticElbow 10d ago

How many workers does it need to replace before mass unemployment, social unrest, and rioting?

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u/togetherwem0m0 11d ago

More labor for building houses and digging ditches i guess

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u/ExtraAgressiveHugger 11d ago

Who is going to buy the houses when no one has a job?

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u/MagikSundae7096 11d ago

the Billionaires who amassed all the wealth at the top. Regular humans will die off, a few, the elite, remain, served by robot companions. Will solve a lot of the world's problems.

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u/Devmoi 11d ago

Yeah, the billionaires want to buy all the real estate and then force everyone to rent. They’ll drive up the prices. This happens all the freaking time since as long as people have been property owners.

And every young person thinks the answer is crashing the market so houses are affordable. But then all that does is put us back even more because the job market sucks and you have to settle for subpar jobs and rent from rich people who are going to increase your rent every chance they get. It’s a vicious cycle!

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u/Western_Past 11d ago

That's why they are making us go at eachothers throats

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u/No-Repeat-9138 9d ago

No they’re not ALL going away. A portion of them will be though which is what is going to heavily disrupt this industry

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u/rbwlines 8d ago

Not going to happen. All these pundits are ignoring people need human contact and aren’t going to be comfortable getting treatments from bots. However, how we get care will likely change.

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u/FeistyButthole 11d ago

Not so, my friend is a teacher who noticed her students doing worse with remote schooling. Her own children however did better. Guess it helps if your mom is a schoolteacher…

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u/left-handed-satanist 11d ago

Depends too heavily on socioeconomic contexts, parent availability, size of house was a great example too (imagine if you're poor and you sleep with your 2 brothers and that's the only place all 3 of you can be on a PC for school)

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u/julallison 11d ago

My introvert daughter did much better remotely, and I'm not a teacher. Not having to deal with social politics and other distractions was great for her. That said, her social development was definitely negatively affected. Btw, I'm not contradicting or disagreeing with your point, just adding to it that it had different negative effects depending upon the child. But still negative.

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u/Fluid_Economics 11d ago

My tech career blossomed with remote work; I love it. For years I couldn't handle commuter/office grind.

I do have to be super proactive with my social life though, otherwise there can be days with no contact.

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u/ijustpooped 11d ago

"Not having to deal with social politics and other distractions was great for her"

I understand this. However, it's better to figure out social politics when you are young, then try to traverse it as an adult. It makes life much easier.

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u/rfmjbs 11d ago

Funny how this is also a top benefit for women who work from home as well. Not having to coddle egos all day in person leads to getting all sorts of work done.

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u/My_G_Alt 11d ago

I was a very high-achieving student in school. That said, I would have done fuck-all if I were full remote back then. Like, I probably would have failed-out. Needed the strict structure.

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u/Nepalus 11d ago

No, they won’t all be replaced. The wealthy will still have in person instruction. The poor urban and rural areas will simply just have AI courses online so that there’s no longer a need for a physical building or teachers unions and all the other costs associated with that.

Just a simple AI subscription, some engineers to ensure that shit doesn’t break, a lawyers to deal with complaints, and someone to manage it all/cash the difference.

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u/TheBlitzcrankTheory 11d ago

It doesn't really matter what human desire, what matter is how much money will companies save and can they get away with it. Most people do not like love automated calls, or having to check out and scan their products by themselves at the store. But if it saves money it'll become the new normal.

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u/-boatsNhoes 11d ago

You forget that most people like to complain to other people and find another person liable for poor service or outcomes, especially in healthcare. Who are you going to complain to when AI made your diagnosis and treatment plan? Who will be to blame for fuck UPS?

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u/SuperKoalasan 11d ago

Plenty of humans would gladly give up the human element of going to the doctor if the results are quicker and they pay less

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u/madtowneast 11d ago

Pay less? How will the CEO buy his 15th yacht?

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u/SuperKoalasan 11d ago

Sorry, get results faster and pay THE SAME if not more

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u/madtowneast 11d ago

I am not even sure they could make things faster than they already are

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u/Total-Coast-6281 11d ago

How will people 'pay' anything with AI stealing all the jobs away

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u/Angelswithroses 11d ago

Plus accurate. You got human doctors guessing what you have and possibly telling you to leave if they think you have nothing wrong with you.

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u/dreww84 11d ago

“Pay less.” That’s a good one.

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u/adingo8urbaby 11d ago

The incompetence of the average doctor I interact with makes me want an AI doc badly. This is largely due to the constriction of the education of doctors. It’s too bad because this could have been avoided if the American medical association wasn’t so interested in making sure all doctors are heavily in debt and making 100s of thousands to millions of dollars a year in service to that debt.

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u/Angelswithroses 11d ago

Now that you say this, I bet AI will actually have access to all types of information about a lot of diseases and disorders instead of very limited and opinionated information from human doctors, who will sometimes reject a person if they believe they don't have anything wrong (Like people who have fibromyalgia and aren't believed). People might actually prefer to be heard and believed, even if it's AI.

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u/Oolongteabagger2233 11d ago

Who are they going to yell at when their 95 year old mother finally dies? Bill Gates? 

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u/sirpimpsalot13 11d ago

AI will help free up doctors. For instance, X-ray scanning for breast cancer. It’s already happening, as it can scans millions in seconds and pull out abnormalities for the Dr to take a closer look at. AI will only get better from here. .

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u/00110011110 11d ago

Each child will have its own agent that will be able to adjust, they'll be better than any teacher that we've ever had. Emotional conditioning, ultra realistic, infinite intelligence, the ability to skip the child an entire grade, daily reports back to the parents, etc.

The world is going to be insane, the future is here.

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u/SlightedMarmoset 10d ago

It will be a LONG time before parents are going to take their kids to a robot paediatric doctor.

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u/Bagafeet 10d ago

Asked Gemini pro the other day to give me cafes that were open at 7. It said sure here are a few that open at 7, except they all opened at 8 and it included the hours for each cafe in the detailed response.

I think Doctors and teachers are safe from AI. I'm more worried about the existence of education and healthcare in 10 years with the way the US regime is headed.

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u/Ataru074 11d ago

Thanks no. PA and nurse practitioners aren’t doctors.

That’s it.

Not the same thing. Do hospitals profit more from them, absolutely, but I don’t want a PA or a nurse practitioner to work on me. I pay for the real doc, from a real school, with real board certifications.

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u/The_GhostRider01 11d ago

This is the standard line for anyone with a large stake in these AI startups. Hype makes money.

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u/abandgshhsvsg 11d ago

Yes but also it isn’t unreasonable as a statement. Many digital artists are out of work and it isn’t coming back. Which field is next is obviously hard to say, but it would be foolhardy to believe that no others will be effected.

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u/NWGreenQueen 11d ago

Wide, sweeping statements like “AI will replace doctors” are criminally false.

Can AI diagnose a skin mole, sure. Is AI gonna hop on your body and provide chest compressions within seconds of you coding, no.

Digital art is very different than medical care.

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u/Da_Vader 11d ago

It depends on regulatory framework. For all practical purposes, the job of a pharmacist is obsolete - absent regulatory compliance. This is why mail order and 90-day supply have tried to reduce that cost.

It is currently possible for machines (using AI loosely) to more accurately replace radiologists. Right now it boosts productivity - so that radiologists can work on many more scans than before as they're just double checking the machine.

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u/MplsSnowball 11d ago

Eh that wouldn’t motivate Gates. He’s already worth 100s of Billions. Any hype money he’d make pumping a start up would be minuscule to his NW. i get the sense that he’s not pumping hype but trying to spread information as he sees it.

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u/Hopefulwaters 11d ago

And at this point, he is giving away more money than he is gaining.

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u/MrRGG 11d ago

Segway was going to replace walking.

The eReader was going to replace all books.

The world was going to be paperless.

Yes, the world changes, and we have to change with it.

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u/Fluid_Economics 11d ago

We were supposed to be in flying cars by now, with robots doing all of our chores.

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u/1leeranaldo 11d ago

I mean they can't even solve male pattern baldness, the richest man in the world who wants to colonize Mars has a 1990s hair transplant.

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u/Immediate-Tell-1659 11d ago

Mars will be the only place for him to hide from angry unemployed mericans

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u/venus-as-a-bjork 11d ago

I think a better example would be self driving cars. 10-15 years ago, all of the tech thought leaders said that most driving related jobs would be gone 5 years ago. I bought into it and was upset that the political leaders weren’t thinking about what would happen to those people that lost jobs. I think that is when the idea of UBI was really being talked about as a solution as well by some outside the beltway. So much hype and it didn’t happen. Still not even close to happening. I think this is still different because some jobs can definitely be replaced and made more efficient right away, but this wholesale taking of jobs I’m not going to buy into the quickest timeline they are giving

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u/Emo-hamster 11d ago

Remember when everyone thought VR and the Metaverse would be a big deal

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u/HTML_Novice 11d ago

These aren’t really the same as AI replacing jobs

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u/dontbetoxicbraa 11d ago

Computers and internet are at least close to whatever could happen with AI.

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u/Hvckett-Dv 11d ago

That's just not true. I work with AI and it's just not possible and I'm not talking about the front end. The backend with just power requirements, infrastructure requirements, etc is just not feasible. I really wish we could switch the conversation to AI being used for Analysis because it's great for that imo.

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u/SpectrumWoes 11d ago

Yeah but if you switch the conversation to just analysis the valuation of these AI companies is no longer justified

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u/mrbignameguy 11d ago

Yes this information these things provide is often wrong (60-94% of the time depending on studies) and yes it doesn’t actually make improvements because the technology doesn’t work and yes it will contribute to the point of no return of the climate crisis and yes, the entire point of this is to sell to investors rather than a buying public since it has no use case other than making images for the circle jerk subs.

But it could pop the stock price a couple bucks, and that’s what matters! /s

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u/alwaysneverjoshin 11d ago

Sorry but you're wrong. Our boss just did a demo on a full fledged website he wrote in just one day using AI. The website facilitates data integration between two systems and handles all the frontend ui and data access.

As a software team it would have taken us two weeks to write.

We're in danger.

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u/Nax5 11d ago

Is your boss technical or a software engineer already?

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u/Hvckett-Dv 11d ago

I'm talking about the infrastructure requirements to facilitate mass AI. No where did I mention AI doesn't have the capability to do a task it's programmed to do. You can't have AI without the sufficient infrastructure to handle all that data flow. read carefully

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u/Traditional-Escape67 11d ago

Most predictions are failures.

Musk said in 2016 we'd be on Mars in 2024.

How are those driverless cars going?

What about the flying cars from the Jetsons?

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u/Impudentinquisitor 11d ago

Waymo is actually great, and I’d bet the scale time to full market is less than you might think.

The rest I’ll give you. Gates himself once said we are bad at predicting how technology will actually change the world.

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u/shadowromantic 11d ago

True. Lots of predictions are wrong. Lots are right too

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u/ElonMuskTheNarsisist 11d ago

How about all the predictions that came true?

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u/Traditional-Escape67 11d ago

Like HyperLink or Solar City or all the failed Boring Company projects? When's the Roadster coming out?

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u/threeriversbikeguy 11d ago

Maybe you don’t have a lot of job experience but those are weird pop culture examples.

If you told me a decade ago my service centers would be chatbots and like 4/5 people taking complex calls, I’d have laughed like some are at Gates. 150 jobs in 2018, 21 now. At one department of my company. I bet its thousand+ company wide.

Same if you told my dad in 1998 that all his company’s servers and local storage would be on a secure virtual server.

Paralegals and legal assistants would get flustered and deny it if in 2007 you told them the attorneys will respond to mail vis handheld device. It was unthinkable that email could be used for formal communications—not making this up. Now those assistant jobs are gone.

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u/Fluid_Economics 11d ago

But all of these support bots just handle shallow fluff.

Everyone knows you have to wait for a real human to solve real problems.

All we have is shittier service now... just waiting for an hour for the human support staff.

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u/threeriversbikeguy 11d ago

And that shallow fluff fed and housed 10s of thousands of human beings for a generation. Most people work boring and rote jobs.

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u/Nomi-Sunrider 11d ago

You are right that moat predictions are failures

Though in Musk cases those are not predictions. He had a plan and he executed it flawlessly.. He knew from.the outset how to hoodwink everyone and hype everything up to get funding and enrich himself. Its highly unlikely SpaceX will be on Mars even by end of this decade.

Remember the Boring company and Musk prediction there. The intent was nefarious.

Driverless cars are allready here but not TESLA's. Those cars will never be FSD cause more people will die. Musk decided not to use LIDAR. His incompetence/ need to put his stamp overuled TESLA engineers and ruined TESLA huge first mover advantage.

A GOOGLE company has succeeded here with driverless cars. Its allready out in a few US cities. They are being meticulous and carefull with peoples lives unlike Musk. Nobody else is even close.

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u/Jaybird149 11d ago edited 11d ago

If this is true, we need to redefine the economy or economic collapse and possibly societal collapse will be certain.

We can’t have an economy where no one can earn anything to buy shit like food.

Also don’t trust a robot over a human to rummage through my insides, and probably never will.

Edit - also, I wanted to mention he said for “most things”. What is the incentive for those who still have to work? They probably will be either resentful or grateful, depending on the circumstances we find ourselves in.

This is why the economy needs to be redefined, and I sure hope it doesn’t go to something like working for corporate credits or something.

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u/Circusssssssssssssss 11d ago

Sure you can

In developing nations like China and India absolutely poverty existed until very recently and extreme poverty and slums exist in much of the world

Only our social sensibilities and aversion to baldfaced unashamed unabashed pure capitalism stops you from having an economy like that. Absolutely you can have a very high GDP and an absolutely enormous number of poor people, especially if work is replaced or made more efficient

In a truly democratic society, assuming intelligent people, the vote should change policies in favor of creating a ladder up or even giving a hand up but if people are conned or scammed into being afraid of "socialism" or "communism" or "wealth redistribution" and don't pay attention to corporate welfare, crony capitalism, corruption and kickbacks, distracted by culture war issues or immigration, then absolutely such a country can exist where the voters vote against their own economic interests. And they may be happy to do so, sitting in the mud and muck and dirt poor as balls so long as the people they want to hurt or want to be screwed aren't "better" than them

Absolutely you can have a very stratified society and such a society can even be economically stable. If we don't want that, then maybe we have to admit that sucking the cock of pure capitalism, especially crony capitalism, isn't the best way to go

How much money does the current US President make from shitcoins, charging the government money for his services, and golfing again? How much is the Supreme Court paid off again?

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u/Klutzy_Acanthaceae67 11d ago

Exactly. It's time we woke up and stopped being passive about late-stage capitalism. And as consumers and citizens, we stand against it. That's a big call, but I think it's what we're being pushed to.

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u/Circusssssssssssssss 11d ago

Depends how long people allow it

Tribalism, blaming the "other" and blaming immigration are powerful drugs. You can blame strange people ("woke" people) blame immigration and so on and so on until the cows come home and it's very hard to get anyone to care about literal corruption unless they naturally distrust capitalism and authorities. Everyone seem to think the only sort of corruption to care about is paying off the police or paying off judges to break laws, but there's plenty of corruption around and absolutely you can make people care about it. Part of the problem is to get to so much power and wealth there's probably skeletons in your own closet

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u/No_Dream_4483 11d ago

Correct.  People worry before they think.  Society will collapse - global. Ya think those in power want to lose power to the rioted masses?

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u/TurboUltiman 11d ago

As a doctor, I can tell you that this is probably not going to happen. Non-medical people watch all these shows on TV, and think that making the diagnosis is the most difficult part of being a doctor. In reality, 98% of people that come in, have an easy diagnosis that most physicians know before they even walk through the door, just by reading through the chart. The actual difficult part of medicine is connecting the proposed treatment plans with the needs and wishes of the individual patient. A lot of that is through reading cues during the visit with the patient, how they react to certain suggestions, their facial expressions, etc. In short, you have to be able to empathize with the patient in order to build trust and for them to be willing to work with you. I am a proceduralist, and I would say a major reason that people even agree to undergo procedures that have a degree of risk, and can be uncomfortable, is because they trust me. I think it would be much more difficult for AI to make similar recommendations and convince patients en masse to undergo procedures, even if it is the right thing for them. This also brings up my second point, which is how is AI going to physically perform procedures? I don’t think people realize, that almost every physician, including primary care physicians do a lot of work with their hands. 70% of my job is working with my hands doing procedures. You can make the argument that one day I may be relegated to just providing the procedures that AI recommends, and who knows this may very well be the case 20-30 years from now, but given the highly regulated nature of the medical field, along with medico- legal risks, I think there would be pretty high barriers to making a model like that profitable for large healthcare systems. And one thing I’ve learned is that if it’s not profitable to the healthcare system, it’s not happening. I’d say overall what he’s saying may be true, but I don’t see it happening in 10 years.

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u/irrision 11d ago

Once again another billionaire with his head so far to his ass he's no longer in touch with reality.

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u/Slytherian101 11d ago

This has been “10 years away” for at least 20 years.

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u/Herban_Myth 11d ago

Tf we need a President or Government for then?

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u/sivah_168 11d ago

We need AI to replace CEO's.

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u/CaregiverBrilliant60 11d ago

Handouts and Socialism.

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u/rfmjbs 11d ago

Universal basic income and universal healthcare and shared prosperity - yes, please.

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u/Vaseline_Mercy 11d ago

I think the problem with that is if someone died because the AI was wrong or didn't do the right thing, that company that made the AI would be sued to shit. Accountability is ultimately what would make the medical company the last to be taken over by AI and robotics in that way. It'll have technological advances to automate processes but that's one big thing to look out for. I think processes can be automated, sure- but you need accountability and it's easier to trust a human and an AI rather just AI alone

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u/oldcreaker 11d ago

Don't worry - it's hard to make an affordable robot that can scrub out toilets and rest rooms. There will still be jobs out there.

Not that AI needs rest rooms.

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u/No_Dream_4483 11d ago

lol.  I work in this field.  Forget the technology.  Start with a basic question to Mr. Gates.  Companies are driven by profitability, sales growth, etc.  who is buying their goods and paying taxes if nobody is working?  How does the government function with a drastically reduced tax base?  How do humans stay busy and out of trouble if sitting around all day?  Is everyone going to run a business to offset tax and spending losses from traditional jobs going away?  Lol. Right.  Is the government increasing bailouts to citizens by 100000000x fold?  Think people.  

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u/Klutzy_Acanthaceae67 11d ago

Yes, exactly. People don't think through these things. And especially 'How do humans stay busy and out of trouble if sitting around all day?" - this is fundamental. People need to feel useful and have 'things to do!', to feel like they're engaging within a community and playing a part. This stupid notion of the universal basic income, where we all get paid some kind of lowly wage to do nothing is just that, stupid. And ridiculous. It just wouldn't work.

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u/ViennettaLurker 11d ago

There is an interesting book called "The Efficiency Paradox". It's a fair bit old now (2016ish iirc) but I still think about it a lot.

It was critiquing "big data" at the time, but extended into machine learning and it's data analysis in a way probably still applies to LLMs and current AI products. But more than that, it was also generally about technological advances. The author is a historian of technology.

He uses teachers, doctors and lawyers as examples of interestingly tough professions and endeavors. His reasoning being that they seem to require novel insight, creative problem solving, and serendipitous observation and knowledge retrieval. These qualities are generally mysterious, even to the high quality teachers/doctors/lawyers that possess them.

A small example: you could have two doctors memorize every single disease and its symptoms. The "good" doctors seemingly intuits a patients problems in a kind of magical way. Yes, they may have certain systems, patterns, and approaches that can be formalized. But often it is the exception to these rules, or a kind of quasi-reliable serendipity, that puts them above an average doctor who seemingly knows the exact same knowledge.

AI, as is, will be a great tool for many, including teachers and doctors. But there is still a good amount of mystery around what really makes a good teacher or doctor in the human form. Let alone how to digitize those qualities.

The more realistic outcome is that if teachers or doctors are "replaced", it will either be: the same humans being burdened with x10 workloads because of AI tools, or pure AI replacements that simply do not work well but everyone just kind of shrugs about it.

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u/boomdaddy2000 11d ago

Me: In 10 yrs, you'll be dead.

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u/berlin_rationale 11d ago

Tech nerds like him and Zuckerberg have a habit of making BS predictions that are little more than wishful thinking. 

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u/Existing-Option-8114 11d ago

Bullshit. I’d like to see an AI teacher teach a 7th grade class with 40 kids in it. Throw in 5-7 kids with massive behavior issues just for fun. That screen will be knocked off the wall week one.

AI will never replace human emotion and connection. Why? It’s not fucking human lol

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u/Affectionate-Tank-70 11d ago

Well that's just great. AI will destroy civilizations so the mega wealthy can keep even more money for themselves. How many homes, islands and helicopters is enough for the greedy pigs.

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u/Brilliant_Fold_2272 11d ago

Teachers, no. How can AI teach unruly kids? How will it manage ?

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u/SpringZestyclose2294 11d ago

Humans don’t solve problems in advance and they don’t cooperate unless forced.

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u/Ncav2 11d ago

Assist yes, replace highly doubt that. The day that happens we might as well start replacing humanity in general with AI

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u/reddittorbrigade 11d ago

Take this with a grain of salt. He was wrong about Windows tablet years ago.

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u/AfghaniBanani 11d ago

So what are we supposed to do for work then? Will we be given universal Income if we cannot find a job?

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u/tristand666 11d ago

AI is not actually intelligent, no matter what they keep saying. It just sorts through multiple options and confidently gives one of the answers as fact. It is WAY overexaggerated as a tool and is useless without people to vet it's answers. 10 years will not be enough time to actually develop artificial intelligence from where we are at.

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u/Health_Promoter_ 11d ago edited 11d ago

Hard No.

Immediately the increased productivity should enable teachers more 1 on 1 time to work with students on topics that they're struggle in

Doctors, longer consult time with patients to perhaps get to real root causes rather than the quick reach to Big Pharma's top shelf

You can image all the ways this increases the work people can do not eliminate it

If everything is pushed off to AI, Huxley's words will never be MORE accurate -

“We are living today, not in the delicious intoxication of sciences early successes, but in a rather grisly morning-after, when it has become apparent that what triumphant science has actually done is to improve the means for achieving unimproved or rather deteriorated ends"

[Ends and Means]

-Aldouse Huxley

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u/Friendly-Iron 11d ago

Lmaooooooo I wish AI luck in controlling a high school class room with 30 kids in it

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u/mostlycloudy82 11d ago

My $9.99/hr psychic said the same thing. My crystal ball has confirmed

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u/Klutzy_Acanthaceae67 11d ago

He's not right. F**k Bill Gates!

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u/perilous_times 11d ago

I wouldn’t want an AI Teacher or Doctor. Bill has social issues and likely feels more comfortable with technology than people. The average person needs that human element to things.

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u/phantom_fanatic 10d ago

I really think this is a whole bunch of nothing, and all the hyper rich are trying to drag out this narrative to cushion the inevitable financial crash as it becomes more and more obvious that “AI” isn’t the golden hammer they are claiming it is.

He knows this is a lie, and it’s an intentional strategy to muddy the waters of public opinion to protect the stock valuations of companies who bet big on AI without vetting its real world viability (like say, Microsoft, which he may have a slight interest in).

As the AI wave rolls over us and nothing really comes of it besides continuing the ebb & flow of offshoring, much like the metaverse this novelty will fizzle out and big tech will eventually come up with the next “big thing” once they find themselves needing more investor cash

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u/Dazzling-Rate-4769 10d ago

Hype hype hype drama drama and more drama that what sells now a days

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u/UnluckyAssist9416 11d ago

He has no idea what he is talking about. But that is expected from a man who made his career through nepotism.

Anyone who spent any time in a elementary school would laugh at the notion that any AI will ever replace teachers. During Covid stay at home schools a lot of kids wouldn't even login to their computers to meet their live teacher. How then would AI teach kids that it can't talk to? Even if you setup a screen in a classroom with a AI talking it would be useless. Kids are not disciplined enough to just sit and learn. They will kick each other, pull each others hair, and so on. One of a teachers main jobs is to keep their class in control so they can be thought. Kids also don't all learn the same way. Most teachers have relationships with their kids and know how to best teach them.

States can't even agree on keeping the same curriculum year over year. You think they could agree with any AI company to keep them more than a year?

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u/Sumoje 11d ago

Totally agree. This man doesn’t even understand what normal people do/go through on a daily basis. He is completely detached from reality.

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u/Alert_Engineering_70 11d ago

Here's hoping there's no need for him

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u/squishysquash23 11d ago

And into the grinder we’ll go

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u/robert_d 11d ago

I doubt it. Teachers, good ones, connect with the students and so get positive engagement.

AI cannot do that, because we don't even understand it. We can mimic it, but unless you're in a tough spot it fails to really engage you.

Treat it like a sex doll or vibrator. Works in a pinch, but won't replace the human touch.

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u/Truth-and-Power 11d ago

Thought it was blockchain going to replace us all

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u/shadowromantic 11d ago

Yeah, I'm definitely preparing as best I can. I expect most jobs to disappear 

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u/TheForkisTrash 11d ago

The government is still trying to get people off dialup internet in the boonies.

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u/falconpunchxD 11d ago

These billionaires and their bs predictions

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u/WingItISDAWAY 11d ago

Yes, Bill, AI will replace Window OS, Microsoft, and all of the engineers as well. We'll be fighting over scarce resources, and poverty, murders run rampant. You and your heirs can be the new rulers of this utopia created by AI \s

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u/Difficult-Way-9563 11d ago

I don’t see any of this happening esp after the report when AI tried to write a legal document and made up fictional cases to support its argument.

It will only assist some doctors.

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u/da8BitKid 11d ago

But I heard the ai revolution would lead to the creation of more jobs? How do I fill out an application to be a literal corporate peasant.

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u/Straight_Expert829 11d ago

This assumes people entrust their lives and their kids education to something that is fallible, includes nudge features, and lacks empathy. AI = automated narcissism.

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u/burnmenowz 11d ago

Given the current state of "AI" aka machine learning, I'll continue to see a human in 10 years. 20 years? With quantum computing added in? Maybe.

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u/Equivalent_Section13 11d ago

Maybe in his world

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u/-GearZen- 11d ago

All Bill Gates has ever know is how to steal ideas from Steve Jobs and Woz.

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u/Total-Coast-6281 11d ago

If this is true, humans will no longer have a purpose or need to compete so human evolution will cease

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u/dustingibson 11d ago

I won't prepare for it because he is full of crap.

AI can't replace skilled physical labor like repairing or installing HVAC systems, plumbing, construction work, farming, or custodial work. Hell they couldn't get it to stock grocery shelves.

AI can't replace truck drivers. They keep saying that same thing every year for almost a decade from now, but nothing happens.

AI can't replace teachers. AI can't do classroom management or IEPs.

AI can't certainty can't replace nurses.

LLMs aren't accurate enough and likely will never be accurate enough to replace software developers, accountants, and doctors.

LLMs aren't a general solution to AI. It can't discipline children. It can't create balance sheets out of a stack of random financial documents. It can't fix your air conditioning. It can't administer IVs. Yes, there is an "upper bound" to AI. Other forms of AI like reinforcement learning that may have some chance of solving a few of these problems have a long long long long way to go, aren't seeing the same explosion of results as LLMs, and it probably won't be in our lifetimes if ever.

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u/GiveMeSomeShu-gar 11d ago

If he's right there isn't much to prepare for, other than voting for UBI.

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u/ShdwWzrdMnyGngg 11d ago

I highly doubt we can gather enough data points for AI to replace doctors in 10 years. I don't think he understands how AI works. You need to feed it pre-digested data for it to properly function. Otherwise it will hallucinate and tell a 10 year old boy that he's pregnant and clinically dead. Smh

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u/Psychologic86 10d ago

Ok Bill, cya back here in 10 years when it’s “in 10 years” again.

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u/CulturalDetective227 11d ago

AI will replace many doctors

I can 100% believe this.

There's a lot of pattern matching in those jobs, and most treatments follow rather strict algorithmic guidelines.

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u/Dudeman61 11d ago

Lol tech dbags have been saying this for decades. But there's a way bigger problem with AI right now and I'm not sure we're going to survive it: https://youtu.be/UoG7HsPCB7M

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u/WonderfulVariation93 11d ago

This reminds me of a convo I had with my techie son who was saying that AI would replace what I do. I asked if AI was capable of reading regulations, picking up what is not written but is expected to be understood. Could it read a regulation and know what the regulators were most focused on, able to read it and apply connections to other regs…. Once I explained that while reading regulations is a LOT of my job, more of it has to do with knowing how they are written and getting a feel for what it is really saying.

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u/Fluid_Economics 11d ago

What I don't get is... we all know AI only knows what has been inputted into it.

Who is it that will continue to feed AI new data?

A handful of experts (who?), or millions of experts (all of the doctors now and in the future)?

In either case, how do the experts learn/grow/discover/etc if they don't have lifetime careers?

Or is Bill Gates thinking General AI (real AI) will exist in 10 years?

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u/Elvis-Presley 11d ago

This is not really what he said. he starts talking about it at 7:00 He is just saying that certain knowledge will be more readily available. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHY5i9-0tJM&t=131s

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u/SpaceBreaker 11d ago

This guy lives in the same old folks home as Biden

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u/callimonk 11d ago

I read a horror story about this once.

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u/Narrow-Yard-3195 11d ago

Why don’t we (humans) just write ourselves out of history already.. haha.. be the batteries in the matrix we were always meant to be.. (I’m kidding)

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u/sakubaka 11d ago

I've worked many years with an industry tech taskforce, and I can tell you that this is hyperbole. However, it's not that far off. I just saw in last October the debut of a new AI agent for a leading healthcare. It can handle pretty much most task the workers need without the need for oversight. It does need direction and further training, but the idea is that it will free up the staff to focus on more value-adding human-centered tasks. However, the learning term implication is that they will need less workers overall and plan to shrink their headcount by attrition and not backfill, instead relying on AI. This is the more immediate impact.

As far as teachers, I work with educational software developers as well and have even contributed to some AI development and design work myself. The truth is that teachers are still needed. The AI can tailor better instruction that's pinpointed to individual needs of the students though. It can provide truly tailored instruction, testing, and simulation. The teacher's role is to be the human to supplement and focus on other areas that the AI cannot develop. I'll give you a good example of something I worked on last year. The app was able to determine exactly where students might be weakest in terms of elementary math and serve up supplemental instruction and drills to focus directly on those areas. The teacher's role was only to verify and click on the resources and instruction to be provided. I've tested the app on my own kids, and it works... very well.

The entire remote argument ignores that in-person and virtual facilitation require two different skills set. Only a very small minority of teachers were equipped with the training they needed to adapt what they were doing in the classroom to the online format. As a result education suffered. What it also did though is drive the development of AI solutions into overdrive to prevent that from occurring again.

I agree with everyone here that Gates is a salesperson, but he also has insider knowledge of what's to come. There are some big changes on the horizon and sticking our heads in the sand won't prepare us for it. The best strategy is being proactive and start investing in skills you'll need in your career 5 years from now not just those that you need today. I'm an L&D exec, so I'm biased. But yeah, adaptation and development are the only ways to secure a viable future career.

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u/asvender 11d ago

Sounds right. The doctors basically just check a couple of symptoms and then decide on one among the limited issues they know or have in mind. Exactly what AI does. While AI has larger databases and wouldn't take emotional decisions. Seen many of doctors using google to see if can get more info even before AI.

For the teachers, many of them already are using tablets and electronic devices instead of whiteboard or chalk and blackboard once were used. So you can use the best teacher for every subject and program online at any time and place and interact with AI for accurate answers instead of teachers.

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u/Immediate-Tell-1659 11d ago

And Sergey Brin wants his people to work 60-hour weeks in the office to create their AI replacements...

Nice people

They climbed to the top and pulled the ladder up

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u/verbomancy 11d ago

He is not right.

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u/WaterBottleIn 11d ago

This the same guy who decided standardized testing for education was the best way to go. Don’t listen to these idiots.

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u/ShaChoMouf 11d ago

Buy stocks and real estate. It will be an ownership society. Only those that own stakes in companies or can control the land will be able to make money.

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u/Natural_Tea484 11d ago

I didn't read the article to see if Gates really said exactly that, but the statement is idiotic.

Doctors and teachers won't be replaced many decades from now.

What will happen however for sure is the AI tools will become ubiquitous. Doctors, teachers. lawyers, any many other professions will use it. And this is a good thing! Because it can even force people do the things which they don't do. A doctor who checks a patient without doing basic required checks (do an echography) won't be able to make the AI record the visit without the results of the observations for those basic checks.

So it's not about replacing, it's about transforming the work in great ways, with better results and sometimes faster, much faster.

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u/Investigator516 11d ago

Within one year, people are going to realize AI healthcare, doctors and teachers are NOT in their best interest ‘for most things’

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u/Outrageous-Speed-771 11d ago

Don't need teachers to be good - because there won't be any futures students will want to study for.

Once the labor market goes from high growth to no growth to free-fall people will feel it and realize no matter what they do it's pointless.

This is the future all people vote for in developed countries by having retirement funds in stocks which are 30-40% US tech stocks. Every person who has their money in a 401k and investment in an index fund is voting 'I want AI to upend the world extremely fast and give all the power to 5 big companies'

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u/IGaveHeelzAMeme 11d ago

Once AI starts reading the geography of a computer in real time the jobs are gone.. and with AI being able to generate readable text.. it’s not that far away

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u/anseho 11d ago

Anyone who’s worked with models and operationalized them knows we are not even 1% into that process. And as with self driving cars, x ray analysis, and many other applications of this, the first 90% is easy, it’s the other 10% that takes years, maybe decades, and may not even be achievable unless you change many other things.

This is not to say human replacements won’t happen. They’re already happening. People like Gates are doing a phenomenal job at hyping investors into pouring money into these projects, and this is every executive’s wet dream to reduce costs and boost profits.

But hype is just hype and reality ends up prevailing. A lot of money is going to be lost here, and many companies will discover the hard way that AI is no magic tool. Klarna learned it recently. Hopefully many others will realise it too before it’s too late.

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u/Old-Arachnid77 11d ago

Nah. It’ll be the ultimate assistant though.

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u/Tess47 11d ago

Im so glad that I am old.  Sorry youngins

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u/r0xxon 11d ago

He's not right. AI can be a wonderful supplement but too immature for total augmentation, especially medical. 10 years isn't enough to close that gap either

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u/Mountain_Sand3135 AskMe:cake: 11d ago

so what will humans do??? just lay around?

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u/iamacheeto1 11d ago

Just like all those self driving cars replaced truck drivers everywhere.

Oh wait

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u/NorthernLad2025 11d ago

Fabulous! We already have rising unemployment, why not add to it! 👎

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u/guccigang252 11d ago

Didn’t people say similar things not too long ago about blockchain. I’ll believe it once I see it.

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u/Negronomiconn 11d ago

I thought AI had consumed nearly all of the available data already and we are nearing a stopping point in development.

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u/Marythatgirl 11d ago

When will AI replace CEOs?

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u/junkimchi 11d ago

Its already half way there. I work for a major hospital system and this has already been deployed out to the doctors.

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u/InevitableSeat7228 11d ago

This man is a clueless twat! 

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u/badazzcpa 11d ago

I doubt it. Just like the accounting fields, AI makes people more efficient. For example, my company has an internal AI bot. When I am trying to write an email and I am a little stumped on how I want it I tell our bot what I want and then leverage what they write into the email. Once or twice I have used it to tell me the excel cell formula. So I think it will be more of an enhancement not a replacement, at least for a few decades. At the moment AI has a lottttt of limitations and I sure as shit don’t want it missing an obvious diagnosis.

That said, yes AI/robots will eventually replace most humans, it’s just reality. I think it will start to happen this century, just not in the next 10 years. By next century I would imagine the only real work that is done by humans is hand made/crafted items.

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u/lordgholin 11d ago

Well maybe one day we won't need income then? We can just have what we need? I wish. Unlike utopias like on the Orville (if you've seen it) we are screwed because our rich seek to keep making us poorer, not make it easy for everyone to have what they need.

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u/radish-salad 11d ago

sit back, enjoy not being in school, and continue to pay actual teachers when i want to learn something 

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u/zerokool000 11d ago

If it requires making money billionaires will eliminate people

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u/b00hole 11d ago edited 11d ago

My work team is basically forced to talk about AI all the time. At this point we're far more worried about negative societal impacts than actual job losses. We've all used AI to help with work tasks, but it is far from being able to actually replace anyone's job on my team. At best, it helps efficiency for certain tasks to help free up time and energy for other tasks.

I'm not worried. AI is all hype and IMO a scam. It can be a neat tool to play with, sure, but it's just a toy and a tool. The big tech companies who are heavily invested in it (including Bill Gates/Microsoft) are pushing like how "we'll have driving cars in the year 2000" to scam investors and get more sales.

Doctors and teachers do more than what AI can. Sure, AI could be used as efficiency tools, but they are far from perfect. It might increase efficiency in a way that could cut some jobs, but you'll always want actual experts overlooking its output. Someone ultimately needs to be held accountable, and relying only on bots includes far too much risk for error and low-quality products.

Ideally we will find ways to use these tools to help free up time for doctors and teachers, as well as create resources to help better detect learning struggles or diagnosis. This could hopefully help ease their workloads, while being extremely unlikely to make them lose their jobs. If I had a kid, there's no way in F I'd want them taught by a bot.

It spits out so much misinformation while being unregulated to the point where it's actively causing a lot of harm and an increase in information distrust.

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u/Texan-n-NC 11d ago

Sounds like his predictions on global warming. No doubt AI will have a huge impact on productivity.

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u/lotus_place 11d ago

There's absolutely no way

But I'd enjoy UBI and not working

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u/mmaf88 11d ago

Well...we are all pregnant or have cancer then lmao

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u/uwey 11d ago

Only Rich gets human, poor gets bad AI and have to learn how to spend configurations credits to configure the AI or they suffering arbitrary KPI created by Rich church for punishment of being born poor.

Neo-feudalism

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u/Total-Coast-6281 11d ago

The poor will build AI bots to revolt against the rich

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u/CompetitiveView5 11d ago

I agree. How many times have you been to a doctor that didn’t know what was going on or has had bad care?

There’s a human element needed but diagnostics and care can be automated

Teaching, same thing. There’s a human element to it but most teachers are glorified babysitters

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u/x_x--anon 11d ago

And who is he going to sue when Ai hallucinates a diagnosis?

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u/TikBlang_AR 11d ago

What about scientists focusing on viruses?

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u/Greasy-Chungus 11d ago

OK so I don't have to work anymore right?

All these efficiency gains will put us in a resource abundant society and I won't have to work anymore?

Or is the whole world just going to be one giant slum with 10 people living in an opulent super compound?

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u/Key-Custard-8991 11d ago edited 11d ago

Disagree. I’m an AI engineer and this isn’t realistic. It’s like how people say buzzwords for clout. That’s what Bill Gates is doing, IMHO. Maybe AI will give teachers and doctors time back so they can spend more energy and time on complex things, but no they will not replace them. AI should be used to improve the quality (of care and teaching). 

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u/DistortedVoid 11d ago

I am so skeptical of that statement. Yes, in theory you CAN learn from an AI, but it is sometime still incorrect and is not necessarily the best method of learning -- especially as children or at young ages. It is a tool to amplify and augment, not to replace in all circumstances. Maybe in some very specific roles, but it is not a replacement for human connection. The people high up in society need to understand this.

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u/Nmaster88 11d ago

Professionals will be instead more productive. How about that?

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u/Dry_Common828 11d ago

Doubtful. Very doubtful.

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u/ShootinAllMyChisolm 11d ago

At the moment, for a cup of coffee and a donut I can do as much as Ai. Not as fast but I also don’t need a server farms worth of energy to do it.

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u/AbleSilver6116 11d ago

Yeah I’m not gonna have a computer perform surgery on me no thnx

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u/CompleteWatercress45 11d ago

The arrogance of people who have been successful in one field thinking they're automatically qualified to speak for any field.

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u/Material-Inflation11 11d ago

BS. Bill Gates is a globalist.

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u/AstralFinish 11d ago

He's wrong.

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u/seaweed08120 11d ago

cooking with the gas

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u/dgermati1 11d ago

I plan to be retired and playing a fair amount of golf.

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u/State_Dear 10d ago

... lol.. a car is a robot to, Right? and it's dumb as shit... When you can snap your fingers and your car drives from one state to another with no problems,, give me a call..

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u/Loyal-Opposition-USA 10d ago

Yes, so the very wealthy will be taken very well care of by an army of AI powered robots while the rest of us are converted into a nutrient rich slurry used to grow replacement organs.

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u/Brave-Finding-3866 10d ago

human will go extinct when we achieve sex robots

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u/utilitycoder 10d ago

Bill Gates will not be seen by an AI doctor... but your medicare/medicaid folks and HMO people will be. Doctors will just make more money as concierge doctors (of course using AI tools too).