I also don't think people realize the economic disaster we avoided after covid. People complaining they said the economy was great despite inflation (mainly price gouging) have no clue what we avoided simply by letting the fed do its job, passing much needed legislation that should have been a normal part of maintaining our country for the last couple of decades, and the back door economic stimulus by providing aid to Ukraine.
We were almost back on track. Almost getting back to the progress we saw in the latter half of the 20th century that was derailed by Bush, partisan politics, and the manipulation of the masses through 24 hour for profit news and social media. Almost moving in the right direction again. Now after our step forward we are sprinting backwards. Because people couldn't be bothered to pay a little more attention.
Except for him stripping rail unions their right to strike, destroying the workers bargaining power despite them being vital to the country's infrastructure.
I have a hard time getting them to read past the title tbh, they're constantly giving links as 'proof' of their nonsense only to find literally the first sentence refuting their own argument.
As a railroader, I can say with 100% certainty, we did not get anywhere near what we asked for. The feeling amongst myself and co workers was that of betrayal.
Tough spot. We had insane inflation and rail is what moves this country. The economic impact of stopping rail would have been pretty ugly. Not sure what Trump would have done, but I have a pretty good idea.
Not downvotong you but my RR unions contract was in arbitration being like 6 years out of contract. In the stages to be sent to the president and it got turned down. This was separate from the big one that got all the media attention
Shatters the idea of pro union Dems. Pro union would've been to deny getting involved and encourage the bosses to prevent a shutdown. Same thing happens when you mention drone strikes under Obama
As much as I feel for the workers, the country was in too fragile of a spot after the global supply chain crisis. A shut down would have been incredibly disastrous.
That’s taking advantage of the situation. I get that’s what’s best for those workers, but it’s not what’s best for the country. That’s another reason why public unions, such as police unions, are so dangerous.
Capital injection post COVID caused rampant inflation. Trump started that process with massive handouts and Biden kept that going to stabilize the economy. It worked and we avoided a recession, but inflation is always the result of pumping that much money into the economy. Also realize supply of everything was constrained because the entire world shut down for 6 months. What specific Biden policies caused inflation?
Can you link me to that policy? You are aware that rates were 7% or more for most of his Presidency? Are you also aware that the president doesn't control monetary policy on that level?
He forced a contract on rail workers that they voted against. That is a fact, this is not a media headline. I am a railroader directly affected by this.
That was basically a photo op. Why does everyone respond exactly this way. He did crush the rail Union. Is there like a call sheet you people are issued?
The only president to actually address the student loan debt crisis and the single most progressive policy agenda in the past 30 years. Yeah, he was okay, I guess.
Nope. America elected Trump. Biden had nothing to do with that. Blame those who didn’t vote and those who didn’t fight harder to prevent voter disenfranchisement.
Probably but he should have been reelected with a mandate instead of being asked to drop out too. He performed great when he wasn't campaigning. The American Electorate judges Biden for a bad debate and forgives Trump for rape, insurrection and constant lying, harassment and racism. At some point, it falls on the voters even if it's more fun to blame the Democrats for x, y or z
You don't think the complete lack of a formal primary process hindered the Democrats at all? Do you think Harris was legitimately the best candidate to run? Do you think more people who didn't vote might have otherwise voted if she had won it outright and spent more time campaigning and spreading her message?
Because I think all of those things led to her loss. If we had a full primary process then she would've spent a hell of a lot more time campaigning in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona etc. Like Trump did.
The truly sickening part is that America reelected Trump knowing what he's all about. To blame anyone else at this part is just looking away from the stomach-churning reality.
Nobody is in charge of the president, that weird angry "he can't possibly be reading and writing" shit is brain dead. They have advisors. Biden may have performed poorly on stage, but that fool didn't have dementia like you overly dramatic mofos were saying. Even if he was suffering from age related problems, he was doing a damn good job of running the country. Now you literally don't know who is running things since Trump put all his special interest oligarchs and family in the government. Out here getting ran by a money mob.
This talking point never makes any sense, lmfao. They were the same policies he promised during the campaign. So either he was a puppet the entire time, or he was a puppet part way through with everyone respecting his decisions because they were a team built by him?
Lol, you mean the loans these young adults took out willingly? I paid for my college with hard work, and Im saving for my children’s college. Taking accountability, a foreign concept to most you clowns.
Be critical of the current administration all you want. I lost both my grandparents due to falling in different ways. It happens more frequently and is dangerous when you get older. To deny Biden wasn't showing his age is not the argument to make. The party even admitted it eventually.
I'm saying the Republican investigating it gave a partisan response to his interview with Biden. He knew he had nothing and smeared him because it was easy based on propaganda that Biden is senile.
Biden was much better received internationally than Trump by citizens and foreign leaders, except those like Orban, a fellow authoritarian.
Biden's biggest mistake was appointing and not removing Merrick Garland in an attempt to be non-partisan.
His father didn't die until he was 93 but he had dementia for years beforehand. He was diagnosed at aged about 84 and probably had symptoms for years before that.
Not to say son will follow father, but dementia has a genetic factor and Trump has a number of other risk factors: he's overweight, famously doesn't exercise or eat a healthy diet, abuses amphetamines, probably doesn't have healthy sleep habits, and has a very stressful job.
Almost 80 is really old. My parents are the same age and they live very healthy lifestyle, but they're really slowing down now. Hearing, vision, and cognitive processing speed all start to go at that age, no matter how healthy you are (Trump's not).
If he didn't develop major health problems in the next few years it would be more of a surprise than if he did. What will be interesting will be how well the propaganda machine hides it.
The real discussion should have been about whether his physical stumbles reflected broader cognitive or leadership issues, rather than just dismissing them outright.
he was ruled legally incompetent in the unauthorized documents case. Which is it he is feeble or his administration coordinated an outright lie to avoid prosecution?
In an alternate universe in which Kamala wins the 2024 election and Trump is eventually tried and convicted in his federal cases, Biden would probably go down as one of the top 15, maybe even top 10, presidents. Instead, Trump will undo every accomplishment Biden had and Biden will be remembered for appointing Merrick Garland and failing to be more pro-active in stopping Trump.
He made workers who get paid less more likely to get paid for overtime, and forgave abunch of student loans, made the chips act, to say a few. Whenever I see someone say Biden didn't do alot, just tells me they aren't very well informed. Love to see it when others point out the good he did
And then refused to drop out of the 2024 race until it was waaaaaay too late giving the office to Trump. Just like RBG, his ego destroyed everything he built.
While I agree it may have been too late (considering the outcome), I disagree that it was about his ego - I think once he genuinely realized that he was tanking their chances, he stepped aside. He put his country above his party which isn’t something most politicians would be willing to do.
The truth is the only thing this country loves more than an old, white dude is blind hatred and, unfortunately for us all, the Republican candidate represented both. Sad.
Don't get me wrong, I would have held my nose and voted for a dying old man over Trump. I voted for Harris. But if he would have listened to the people telling him to drop out MONTHS before he did, we could have had a primary and not ended up with the least liked candidate in decades.
I think Kamala lost because she believed the same lie we all did, that this was a free and fair election. There was never any election involving Donald Trump that was a free and fair election. Elon Musk would not invest a quarter of a billion dollars into a free and fair election.
THIS. I keep actively trying to find evidence to NOT feel like the election was stolen because I never go for conspiracies and I’m starting to feel crazy. But something smells fishy and it just keeps getting stronger.
That certainly had an effect. Kamala was an awful candidate, which also had an effect. She was the most disliked VP in history and the first to drop out of the 2020 primaries.
Why? Now Trump is president and those reasons are more normalized than ever. Maybe it's time to be realistic as a party and see the situation for what it is instead of dying with our ideals. It's not great that we "nominated" a black woman who nobody liked and she lost to Trump. I guess we can hang up a banner while our democracy is being destroyed.
I don't think she was an awful candidate, I think she could have brought a lot of good. I do think she was not the right candidate for the time. Biden should not have ran or at least dropped out really early while the democrats picked someone else. Someone much younger. If things went well, Kamala would have had a better chance in another election. There were a lot of mistakes democrats made that lost them the election.
Meh. I think she lost because she didn’t try and get the 20-30 vote. Those people would have flocked to her like crazy… instead they tried to go full Disney and parade her with celebrities. And no one wants to listen to a rich person who works twice a week when you can’t even afford child care. Instead, everyone was scared to vote for the wrong person so they just didn’t vote.
Should have dropped the celeb shit and went full lawyer.
It also wasn’t just his decision though. I would imagine that the Democratic Party had a lot to do with it. They wanted him to run again because people tend to vote more for incumbents. I think that the goal was likely for him to run again, win, then step down part way into his term and let VP Kamala step up. I think the party knew that the odds of a female POC winning were slim to none, and unfortunately they were right. Once Joe stepped down they should’ve had an emergency primary or something, imo.
Yeah. We had the perfect stealth candidate waiting in the wings but he spoiled that. Our alternate candidate was so perfect, we still don’t know who he or she was lol.
Lol. We went with the least popular VP in history. She was the first to drop out of the 2020 primaries because nobody liked her. My dog would have been a better candidate than Harris.
Before everything, disclaimer, not American, and also, Trump is a disgusting human being, and terrible for both your country and the world at large. That said, for the sale of factual accuracy, the details of American withdrawal from Afghanistan wereaid out during the first trump administration. The deadline was set by trump, however what Biden did was pull out all at once, probably to have the dates significance associated to the pull out which led to a lot of the issues that were seen during the withdrawal, so arguably he made a bad situation worse aiming for a PR boost
Trump was doing, just slowly and strategicly, also probably banking on a second consecutive term. Not all at once like joe did. Dont get me wrong im glad to to be out. That said anyone, and everyone that knows strategy has repeatedly called it out for the absolute cluster fuck that it was. I'm tired of people pretending like it wasn't.
Ehh. He did do a lot, but it's what he didn't do: he was spineless in going after the orange chucklefuck. He should've swung a pair and aggressively gone after him with the speed required. That failure should never be forgotten.
We’re seeing right now why he doesn’t deserve the flowers. History is rightly unkind to leaders who stood by as disasters brewed on their watch, from James Buchanan to Neville Chamberlain.
If Debbie Wasserman Schultz hadn't thrown the Democratic primary we'd have had Bernie instead. Her defense in court was that the Democratic primary didn't have to be fair because it was a private decision among the party leadership not the subject to the rules of the main election. The greed of the corporate Democrats landed us where we are now.
"Want" is a strong word. The less informed wanted to be on a winning team and the Democratic leadership broadcasted that the wrong candidates would win.
While I fully agree with the sentiment of your message I wouldn’t say that Covid was the worst pandemic the US has seen, I believe that honor still belongs to the 1918 flu pandemic.
He did some lowkey amazing things for the country and didn't bother making it all about him. Wish this country did it better than what we have now, going to take everything we have to keep the states United.
He was amazing because he did not try to take away our rights. He didn’t fire 1,000s of federal workers. He was an ally to our allies around the world. He was amazing because he never called himself a king.
Look I’m not a political major by any means but honestly the guy had some heavy legislative bills passed under one term. I’m young enough to say Obama was the first president I can say I was cognizant enough to understand somewhat what was occurring and it feels like Biden did a very similar amount of bills being passed in one term as Obama did in two. Now did Obama have a different senate? Forsure. Did he also have a different vibe as chief of office? Absolutely (in the most positive of ways). Biden was a hell of a president. Was also a hell of a VP. The guy has a very favorable public service career imo after being there for 30+ years.
Horrible president, but my goodness I want him back, now. At least he spoke for himself instead of being told by a 4 year old to be quiet he's not the real president.
Compared to Clinton and Obama? Well I guess you're right he did what he could to fix the mess left by the oopma loompa last time, he held off the inflation as far as possible, now we're stuck in trumpflation.
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He wasn’t amazing but I miss him.