r/MadeMeSmile • u/Subtle_srikhand • 1d ago

Wholesome Moments Shoutout to her for not giving up

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u/quackerzdb 1d ago

Are they intentionally unsecured? It would be way safer if it couldn't tip out from under you.

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u/AmettOmega 1d ago

Yeah, I'm a little surprised that the box just tumbled from beneath her without much prompting. If you're going to do a jump like this, I'd want it to be on something very heavy/secure that won't tip.

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u/WeekendInner4804 1d ago edited 1d ago

The box is designed to be useable at 3 different heights... The lowest height is a 20 inch jump on the long end where the box is most stable.

There's a 24 inch mid point.

In most CrossFit workouts, men are asked to use the 24inch side and women the 20inch side.

She is using the tallest and most unstable 30inch side, and I have no idea why.

The boxes are heavy and fairly secure for the most part... But she's a heavier girl jumping with poor form onto the most unstable side of the box.

All of that said.. rehabbing an ankle injury is no joke. I rolled mine going down a set of stairs with the dogs and it took me about 9 months before I felt enough stability and strength in it to go running again, it was over a year ago now, and it still hurts if I overstretch it.

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u/a_psychedelic_mess 23h ago

Not only is she jumping on the 30 in side but also off of a plate. If you are going to stand on a plate to jump on the highest side just jump on a lower side

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u/Embarrassed_Corgi_64 18h ago

Right!? What a weird choice. I've seen some strange exercise choices in open gym before but that seems like an wildly unnecessary risk and has no functional benefit other than increasing general risk of danger lmao

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u/lionelmessiah1 14h ago

There is a functional benefit. She probably already did the 24 inch jump and wanted to try going a little higher but the 30 inch side is a bit too much. The plate is about 2-3 inches so she gets a more doable height this way

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u/goingforgoals17 10h ago

This goes back to CrossFit being an issue. 24 is easy in warmups and doing 4-8 probably isn't a problem by itself, but is after 3 sets of amrap and a lactic buildup for 15 minutes.

A ton of people do stupid stuff in the gym every day, CrossFit is the only place where the stupid stuff is celebrated.

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u/VoxImperatoris 22h ago

Not going to get clicks on the gram with that.

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u/brickheck2 23h ago

Second that on ankle injuries. I'm 35, when I was like 10 I just twisted my ankle in a hole running through our yard. To this day, I call that one my tricky ankle because it still randomly locks up on me. This video made me recoil and put my phone down to try to get away from it. She is a trooper for sure, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if she will also have a tricky ankle forever. 

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u/Spare-Willingness563 22h ago

I've rolled my ankles multiple times, once to the point it touched the inside of my leg, and I have no issues with them. Granted, I constantly flex and rotate them out of habit, so maybe that'll help.

Because of Muay Thai, grappling, and other martial arts and sports, I've dislocated/sprained both ankles, all my fingers, hyperextended elbows and knees, have had partial dislocations in both shoulders, tendonitis in both shoulders, dislocated jaw multiple times, slipped discs, and a dislocated patella in my left knee and none of those have caused any lingering pain because I've been big on stretching over the years.

Stretching is really, really going to pay dividends. Hot yoga as well, but that's not inexpensive. I'd just recommend 30 mins of stretching every day and I promise it'll at least help.

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u/brickheck2 11h ago

Thank you for the info, I'll try to find some stretches that can help! 

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u/Green-Block4723 22h ago

Totally get the reaction to the video, too. There's something about seeing that kind of injury you feel it in your bones.

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u/WeekendInner4804 1d ago

It's her left ankle, the first part of her body that hits the ground is the toes on her left foot, I'd say it's much more likely to be a sprain or a tear than a break.

All it takes is some over extension in the wrong direction.

Her toe tried to take the brunt of it while the rest of her body, and crucially, her left shin, kept falling forward, stretching or tearing the ligaments around the ankle

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u/richfamgg 1d ago

Looks like her right foot hits the ground first.

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u/i_give_you_gum 23h ago

You might be right. Idk

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u/NancyDrewsfatpuss 23h ago

She landed directly on her foot. Watch it again

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u/clintj1975 1d ago

The bruising on her mid foot looks like she may have injured that as well. Toe first and twist is a really quick way to both midfoot and ankle injuries. I got a Lisfranc fracture from a similar motion.

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u/Coca-karl 1d ago

The box is designed to be useable at 3 different heights...

No, it is not. It may be used that way. But the base of the box should be at least as wide as the box is tall to prevent the exact type of situation.

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u/Mysterious-Arachnid9 23h ago edited 21h ago

It most definitely is.  Rogue, and others, advertise the three different heights. While it might not be the safest, it is intended to be used like that.

Box jumps are like any other workout. They are safe if you are doing it right.  I have seen more serious injuries from deadlifts than box jumps.

Edit:  the downvotes need to take two seconds and Google rogues box, the tag in the Google results is literally 3 heights, 1 box.

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u/Coca-karl 22h ago

It most definitely is.

No, it is not. If it was designed for that usage then it would be designed with a base that is at least as large as it's height.

Rogue, and others, advertise the three different heights. While it might not be the safest, it is intended to be used like that.

They may be advertising this usage but it's not an appropriate design. I'm not going to bother checking out the marketing material. If they are advertising them as you are saying then anyone injured should sue them into the ground.

Box jumps are like any other workout. They are safe if you are doing it right.

Yes and that means using properly designed equipment.

I was a dumbass kid who did this with stacking chairs. I get the impulse to test yourself with improper equipment. But just because people can do something dumb without getting hurt doesn't make the equipment properly designed for the use.

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u/Mysterious-Arachnid9 21h ago

Dude, from Rogues website:

""Product Description

This is the same versatile 3-in-1 wood plyo box utilized for years in CrossFit Games competition, with built-in height options of 20”, 24”, and 30”.

American-made, battle tested, and backed by a year-long warranty, the 56 LB Games Box is designed for safe, effective plyometric training at any skill level. Add a box to a garage gym for a new workout dynamic or order in bulk to equip or upgrade a large scale strength and conditioning facility.""

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u/Coca-karl 21h ago

Dude, from Rogues website:

Great, you've proven that they're advertising an unsafe product. I hope that personal injury lawyers do their thing.

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u/Mysterious-Arachnid9 21h ago

I was never arguing they are unsafe, but arguing how they are made. I also remember all the taller plyo boxes are taller than they are wide.

https://retrospec.com/products/leap-plyo-box-black?variant=40063580700844

Can you show me plyo boxes taller than say 24 inches that are wider than they are tall? Can you pull up safety standard that agree with you? Lawsuits?

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u/Coca-karl 20h ago

I also remember all the taller plyo boxes are taller than they are wide.

Lots of inappropriate equipment doesn't make the equipment suitable for the activity.

It would be better to use vault training equipment that has been properly designed with safety in mind.

Can you show me plyo boxes taller than say 24 inches that are wider than they are tall?

No. I'm not in the market but I guarantee that if I was I'd never buy and use a box that's taller than it's base for this type of activity.

Can you pull up safety standard that agree with you?

Based on my knowledge of CrossFit injury rates their safety standards are meaningless.

If you're interested in seeing how to properly design for a similar activity check out gymnastic equipment. They're designed with either an extra wide footprint or a fixed weight distribution system that ensure that the equipment won't fall when a person jumps off.

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u/polite_alpha 21h ago

These boxes are advertised this way, used this way, and are perfectly safe if used correctly. This girl is both too short and too heavy to do a jump on the highest side. step ups on the 20" side would destroy her after a few sets of 20 reps.

The box did not fail, her trainer did.

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u/Coca-karl 20h ago

step ups on the 20" side would destroy her after a few sets of 20 reps.

You don't know how strong her legs are that's a foolish assumption.

These boxes are advertised this way, used this way, and are perfectly safe if used correctly.

They're not. The box setup like that is a big lever with no weight distribution system to prevent them from toppling over when a person lands on the edge. If it was perfectly safe the box wouldn't have moved out from under her.

The box did not fail, her trainer did.

No, both failed. You can see the box fail as it goes off balance when she lands on the edge rather than on the center. But you're right her trainer should have stepped in and stopped her from using that setup.

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u/lionelmessiah1 14h ago

It’s not possible to design a cuboid with 3 different heights whilst also having a base larger than each height.

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u/Coca-karl 12h ago

It actually is. You could build an internal frame that attaches to a foot, build a harness that attaches to the top, or build the boxes to be interlocking where you add more at the base to add height.The box remains a cuboid for aesthetic reasons while the equipment is still safe.

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u/Spare-Willingness563 22h ago

Yeah this is just irresponsible.

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u/OafishSyzygy 23h ago

I've flipped one of these at 165lbs. So, blaming her weight probably isn't the most kind observation

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u/WeekendInner4804 23h ago

Wasn't trying to blame her weight.. but it certainly didn't help.

She also landed at the edge of the box with most of her body weight in front of her toes, I was more blaming it on trying to do the 30inch jump...

Especially considering that I've now noticed she's doing it from plates.

If she had put the box on its side and did 24inch jumps from the floor, the height differential would have been almost the same and the box would have been harder to flip.

I'd blame coaching more than her weight.

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u/cumfarts 21h ago

Observations don't have to be kind

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u/VOZ1 23h ago

I rolled my ankle badly playing basketball when I was in high school (over 20 years ago now). I was certain I’d broken it, thought I heard a crack, and I’d broken my wrists a few times so I knew what that sounded like. Went to the ER, got X-rays, and it surprisingly wasn’t broken. My orthopedist then explained that I may end up wishing it was broken, because a clean break will 100% heal in 6ish weeks, while a bad sprain could take months or more to heal. Can’t remember how long it took to heal, I was young, it was maybe a few months because I only played basketball in the winter, and was back playing soccer in the spring. 

Now, at 40+ years old, I roll my ankle slightly, not even bad enough to stop playing, and it’ll be sore for ages. :(

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u/Spare-Willingness563 22h ago

I rolled mine while sprinting, heard a crack, went to the hospital because it looked like I'd put a baseball under my skin then decided to go home because we'd already waited an hour.

Two days later I was playing basketball on it. I miss being 14.

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u/yesnomaybenotso 17h ago

Isn’t pushing yourself beyond your means with improper form like the whole point of cross fit?

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u/WeekendInner4804 8h ago

Absolutely not.

Pushing yourself - yes.

Trying to get better - yes.

But improper form should never be encouraged, it exposes you to unnecessary injury risk.

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u/yesnomaybenotso 6h ago

Yeah I just thought that’s why most gym people dont do cross fit lol

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u/Amanwhohasboname 23h ago

Good comment. Folks don't like the truth

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u/Solvemprobler369 8h ago

The whole point of box jumps is landing in the proper way so that the box does not want to tip. You essentially want to ‘float’ onto the box. I 42F have been doing box jumps regularly and safely for 15 years. You have to build to that height and ability.

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u/fleshie 23h ago

Without much prompt? She landed on the edge of the box then flicked it by jumping forward. Same thing as putting your finger on the top edge of a dice, pressing down hard, then pulling your finger towards the edge. Sends that shit flying.

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u/secretdrug 1d ago

My gym uses trapezoids for box jumps and the top has grit to prevent slipping.  

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u/WritingLow2221 1d ago

There are boxes from high end brands that have a weight set in them to try and steady them. The weight isn't fixed so that you can have the box set at any height. They're still light enough to carry but definitely not as easy to knock over as that looked

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u/Coca-karl 1d ago

That box could have held weights as heavy as her it would have still fallen over. The way she set it up it's not wide enough to prevent the leverage she applied from pushing it over. The foot of the box should be at least as large was it is tall to be safe.

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u/No-Sprinkles-9066 1d ago

We use the type of box that are wider at the base than the top so it’s much much harder to tip over.

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u/UndeadT 23h ago

She's at a CrossFit gym, they pride themselves on not following any safety procedures or precautions. Just look at how they do pull-ups, they don't care about gym members' ongoing safety.

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u/FloydMerryweather 21h ago

It blows my mind that they still use wooden boxes. Padded boxes have been a thing for a long time now.

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u/polite_alpha 21h ago

While you can find dumb CrossFit videos, not a single CrossFit gym I've ever been in did any of these dumb movements. Quite the opposite in fact.

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u/Jumpy_Secretary_1517 19h ago

Whaaaaaat. CrossFit gyms everywhere still pride themselves on both box jumps and butterfly pull ups, both of which are not great. Cool that you found some anomalies though

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u/polite_alpha 12h ago

I've been to about 20 CrossFit gyms throughout the years and it was the same everywhere. Maybe it's an American thing, I'm from Germany and nobody is doing dumb shit like this.

Box jumps are not inherently unsafe, but this girl should be doing step ups on the 20" side, not box jumps on the 24" or 30" side.

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u/Jumpy_Secretary_1517 7h ago

Ahhh that could be it. I’m in the U.S. and have been to a bunch of CrossFit gyms and also work with tons of cross-fitters. Still centered around tons of reps and kipping/butterfly pull ups. Many harp on form but then as soon as the workout is for time or as many rounds as possible, form slowly goes out the window and all of a sudden deadlifts are hurting people.

I don’t have a problem with CrossFit itself, just the way it’s implemented and taught. I love the idea of a full workout with good form and strict movements but every gym I’ve been to loses that along the way.

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u/polite_alpha 6h ago

Still centered around tons of reps and kipping/butterfly pull ups. Many harp on form but then as soon as the workout is for time or as many rounds as possible, form slowly goes out the window and all of a sudden deadlifts are hurting people.

That sucks. I've seen videos of people doing stupid shit and thought those were the exception based on my experience. This seems to be in Brazil.

I was obese when I started CrossFit 8 years ago and never had a single injury, and never witnessed one either. No rabdo, nothing. All trainers I've worked with have been pretty extreme about good form. Yes, at some point you increase the speed and start kipping pull ups, but that's kinda the idea behind the whole sport and only to be done when you've excelled at the training level before.

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u/PancakeParty98 23h ago

It is CrossFit’s prerogative to do any sort of exercise with the maximal chances of injury

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u/circuit_buzz79 19h ago

That sounds like pretty much any activity when I was a kid (grew up in the 70's)

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u/spain-train 1d ago

In high school and college, we had heavy steel frames with a reinforced rubber pad on the top. Very difficult to move unintentionally.

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u/pblol 22h ago

Mine were just wood, but they were also either wider on the bottom or at least square. It seems really dumb to have them setup like that.

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u/Letters_to_Dionysus 20h ago

I've seen them against the wall a lot

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u/Free-Atmosphere6714 1d ago

Because it's not designed for someone so heavy.