r/MartialMemes • u/Dry_Specialist9015 • 25d ago
Question If Captain America (with shield) were transported into the Wuxia world, how far could he possibly go?
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u/wolfvahnwriting 25d ago
I love how the majority of the comments for these types of things are Just "he dies lul"
On a story focusing on Cap and him Cultivating I don't think it would be a stretch to say he'll make it far.
His sense of Justice and doing the right thing would get him in trouble but Cap isn't an idiot and is capable of laying low when needed.
His biggest strength is going to be his mind. With the shield being a neat tool to surprise foes with.
That said, in a story not focused on him its entirely reasonable for him to just get swatted by something.
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u/Sakusei_Tsukuru 25d ago
The best part is, they can't separate Xianxia between Wuxia. Xianxia has immortal cultivation, Wuxia only has Martial Arts. Sure internal cultivation is present, but they should only be enough to match his own supersoldier physique… now imagine if he has his own internal energy.
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u/TheGodAboveAllBeings Old Monster 25d ago
It depends. Captain America's physique is OP in Wuxia but any top tier can easily beat him. We forget that the true top tiers of Wuxia are capable of destroying mountains, something Cap can't do. His shield is even worse because, unless you're a fodder, nobody uses shields. He will be recognized everywhere
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u/S0LO_Bot 25d ago
I mean his base physique gives him an inherent advantage
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u/TheGodAboveAllBeings Old Monster 25d ago
His base physique should be on par with Transcendent Masters
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u/Hotcakes64 25d ago
And the most important fact is that he is way smarter than the majority of the people in those worlds since he is smarter than most wuxia/xianxia main characters (protagonists are quite stupid yet somehow they're the smartest characters in their novel).
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u/CouchPotatoID Heroin Alchemist 25d ago
In Wuxia? Pretty far considering that he is a some sort of "modified" human that designed to achieve human body full potential.
The Capt has a leading start compared to other newbie martial artist, just need some adjusting here and there and learn some martial arts and common sense in jianghu (his "too righteous" sense of justice will bring him many trouble in jianghu).
In xianxia? Forget about it. Without Dao of Author Asspull, Golden Finger, or System, even the weakest peak Qi refining cultivator could kill him instantly.
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u/Hotcakes64 25d ago
I think he can fare quite well in a xianxia world, he just need to practice and keep a low profile, he may even reach the top thanks to his strong will since those earth transmigrators with weak will are able to do so thanks to their "powerful" will.
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u/parity_account 25d ago
In xianxia i think it almost entirely depends on if he can get into a sect, and if he can, which sect it is. His baseline and willpower are already so high, he probably could do well if he gets an opportunity, and if his body can cultivate immortality. I guess if his roots are trash, depending on the world, that also might be a killer. but basically, imo, his starting point is already a million miles ahead of most any other earthling appearing in xianxia.
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u/infinity_vamp 25d ago
In Xianxia it would highly depend on how the power system works the Captains clarity of mind and purpose could potentially Synergize very well with some power systems.
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u/Fishbro001 Tyrant Daddy 24d ago
I wuxia he will probably have some kind of unique "Holy Yang body" which will make body cultivation easier for him
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u/Crafty-Crafter 25d ago
You meant the Sect Master of the Star of Democracy sect (forced upon this title by his disciples)? Who united all the sects in Jianghu to defeat the empire and ended the rein of tyranny? He, who single-handedly defeated the Chaos dragon with his shield and brought order to the realm?
Probably. Sounds like something Cap would do.
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u/MrPoisonface 25d ago
the ledgend talks about a star and striped bloodline. some of the most righteous and melee blunt force focused families in the 4 kingdoms. family heirloom of unbreaking turtleshell.
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u/rhydderch_hael 25d ago
The super serum is basically body reformation in a bottle, so he'd likely start out as an expert at the very least. With some kind of inner energy technique, he'd likely end up as one of the top 10 masters in a couple years.
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u/EvaporationOfSanity 25d ago
He would do very well. His genetically perfect body would give him incredible talent for cultivation (at least body cultivation as his "bone structure" would be amazing). He is also biologically immortal and has regeneration able to heal brain damage.
He is a genius with mastery of every martial art including some special comic book martial arts that let you use pressure points.
He isn't unfamiliar with chi, in fact he is able to use it to some degree and has fought with chi-users like the Iron Fist so he might be able to pick up cultivation fairly easily.
If he is going to a setting with stuff like "Karmic Merits" than he would be even more well-off because he has saved the world (and more) multiple times so he would have insane amounts of good karma. And might get blessed by the heavens for being someone genuinely righteous.
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u/jackponty1 25d ago
In a wuxia world specifically he'd already be pretty close to top level
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u/parity_account 25d ago
I'd argue a bit against this. I'd say his defense, speed(maybe), awareness, and willpower are all there at a level nearing peak. But in wuxia, offensively, you still have people with much higher power attacks than he possesses IMO. So to me it seems in that aspect he'd still be pretty far from peak. Peak in many of these wuxia is chopping a mountain in half or other crazy things like that, right?
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u/VexMasterTyrant 25d ago
Depends on his own talent for cultivation I suppose.
If he finds a mentor or teacher and grow stronger through cultivating, then he'd go very far.
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u/kumatatsu 25d ago
Well since you mentioned wuxia, i do believe he would go as far as becoming a guest elder of righteous sects, but his strength would be just around that, a first rate to peak master level, whereas the usual martial saints of said world would still best him. Now if bro starts training, everyone is cooked
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u/Sanjubaba07 Mysterious Benefactor 25d ago
Die on starting area if he doesn't cultivate if he does with his plot armor he can cultivate upto stage of finding his way back home
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u/Sakusei_Tsukuru 25d ago
Don't mind these juniors, they cannot distinguish between the higher realms between the lower realms.
He can probably reach pretty high, considering he knows martial arts as well. He just doesn't have internal energy, but he makes up for it with his divine body(supersoldier physique).
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u/malakish Kowtow to this Grandaddy 25d ago
In wuxia truly righteous people are admired and can make a lot of friends. He should have no problem thriving assuming he doesn't fight a poison user.
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u/SirDogeTheFirst 25d ago
If he just stays the same, he gets defeated at some point, but if he takes his time to learn martial arts, I can see Cap becoming a monster among monsters.
He already has an extremely strong body and mind, just let him learn some internal and external martial arts to support it, and you'll have a Captain America running at mach freedom, snipping people with his shield across cities.
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u/ExtensionInformal911 25d ago
Did the serum give him spirit roots? Otherwise he is stuck at early chi building with powerful defensive relic that will probably be stolen or get him killed. If it did, however, his special physique might help him win enough battles that he can survive.
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u/Fine_Scar_8435 25d ago
He probably gonna be murdered by a crazy uper duper strong immortal for his shield early on but if he can get to the later ranks of cultivation considering he has a industractble weapon hes gonna be really op
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u/Tuziest Failed to see Mt Tai 25d ago
Vibranium is hardly indestructible, maybe in the first few realms but once you get to golden core, nascent soul, I doubt the shield could withstand much of those attacks
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u/Fine_Scar_8435 25d ago
I mean in comics (i didnt actually read them but still) the shield was something that is mostly indestructible
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u/Tuziest Failed to see Mt Tai 25d ago
I mean in the comics an Odin force empowered Thor dented the shield so I’d assume someone at the peak of the mortal realm can destroy the shield and once he ascends the shield would be basically worthless
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u/LaCreammy Jade Beauty 25d ago
Odinforce Thor is strong as hell, at very least universal, nobody in the mortal realm will destroy the Shield, because the Shield tanked some of his attacks, not even most of the immortals are able to destroy it, let alone those in the mortal realm
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u/Agile_Paper457 Heart Demon 25d ago
if he goes to a proper righteous sect he'll do great, might need to drop the america stuff for the time being though. I'd love to see it, haven't seen a cultivator with a shield yet, usually because they dodge or defend with their body/weapon
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u/SJReaver 24d ago
-- Pure Dao heart
-- Legendary artifact
-- Willing to take drugs to get stronger
He would be a once in ten generations genius and a core disciple of any righteous sect. However, his lack of willingness to do whatever it takes to reach immortality would mean he'd never become a sect elder or grandmaster.
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u/LostsoulX49 25d ago
He could reach the top under the right circumstances. If he manages to learn Chinese, to wield a sword and also finds a master to teach him martial arts, than he could end up as the leader of an Orthodox sect.
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u/Formal-Arachnid-3843 Hovering between Life and Death 25d ago
vibranium must be around the level of cold iron
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u/It_just_works_bro 25d ago
Iron is paper mache to vibranium lol
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u/Darkness-Calming 25d ago edited 25d ago
Dead. Dead within a week if not a few months.
His sense of morality wouldn’t allow him to ignore a random cultivator abusing a normie.
Physically he would be around peak of body tempering or equivalent but those above that realm would tear him apart. Shield can only do so much.
If he cultivates / practises Wuxia martial arts? Then he would go very far. He is mentally resilient and adaptable. Not to mention his experience with large scale battles and tactical combat.
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u/Cool_Connection1001 Deviation Immortal 25d ago
Too righteous, unless he gets into a “supremely righteous anti-demonic zealot” force, he gets captured, has his shield taken, then is experimented on for his super soldier serum which basically the key to turn a raise a massive army of body cultivators all at a very low cost in terms of cultivation resources and time.
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u/LightThemeUser Murder Hobo 25d ago
if he cant cultivate at most a few years, if he can probably a few hundred years
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u/ShakePsychological13 25d ago
Cap couldnt dare be an opponent for this old master. you are courting death!
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u/Few-Pension2269 1 in a Ten-duotrigintillion Genius 25d ago
He would last for maybe a few seconds in my pill refinement formation if it is the movie version.
The comic version? Why aren't you kowtowing yet??
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u/No-Roll-534 Demonic Cultivator 25d ago
This insolent junior keeps bringing scrolls from the lands forsaken by Heaven into our sect, has anyone checked him for Qi deviations?
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u/Arafell9162 Old Monster 25d ago
Junior, it would depend on his luck and his talent, as well as the effects of the serum. While the serum may be beneficial for body cultivation, such a rough and untested product may have harmed his meridians.
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u/GabelkeksLP 24d ago
The cultivation of the dao would filter out the impurities so I think there is a chance he becomes strong
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u/DavewasDTCH 24d ago
Whether it's MCU or Comics, Cap getting sent into a Wuxia means he's gone from "Not very strong with an outsized influence on the setting" to "Middle of the pack with no influence". A high tier could definitely bulldoze him and he's not exactly immune to poison either, however Cap should have no probs beating up random mooks.
Cap will probably be fine for quite awhile tho unless he's really unfortunate and gets mugged by a random heavenly demon or whatever the fuck or immediately starts a fight with a local Wuxia group that has access to powerful abilities like "call bigger fish".
Nothing's stopping Cap from learning magic kung fu but considering magic kung fu already exists in his setting and he never bothered learning it, I don't give it good odds.
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u/amateurish_gamedev Hidden Dragon 24d ago
Wuxia? He should be okay. Might even get recognized by a great senior and become a disciple of an orthodox sect.
Xianxia? If he doesn't have a spiritual roots and got accepted as an inner disciple of good sect with at least, a nascent soul ancestor, he would probably die since his morality couldn't fit with xianxia morality.
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u/yayayfyre 24d ago
Wuxia? If we're talking classic Wuxia where he's in some undisclosed period of Chinese history, then I'd reason he'd be pretty strong. He's a very honourable guy, so he'd probably make a lot of enemies in the Jianghu, but I imagine he'd make a lot of allies, too. There also shouldn't be any weapons that can break his shield, and with Cap being able to hold down helicopters and whatnot, I'd place him as a potential top-tier (though with less displays of exaggerated mobility, and moreso just being really strong).
He dies in Xianxia ,though. That shit's just too much.
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u/Magistron 24d ago
In body cultivation he would go really far, thanks to the super soldier serum. Coupled with the unbreakable shield that he could refine as a Dharmic treasure, he would be someone dangerous.
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u/zack189 24d ago
Wuxia systems are wildly different per novel, so let's define the martial system as the ones with third rate, second rate, first rate, martial master, innate grandmaster, martial transcendent.
A martial transcendent, being the strongest, should be able to destroy a whole city with just his body given enough time
I think cap would probably be between first rate and martial master. The gap between first rate and martial masters tend to be pretty huge, and between master and grandmaster is even more huge.
martial masters usually have something like intent which boosts their speed and attack. Their mastery of martial arts would also be much higher than cap.
But as long as he gets enlightened, he should be able to become a martial master, a few years and innate is guaranteed. A decent change of becoming a martial transcendent
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u/joseph_potato Murder Hobo 24d ago
His innate deficency makes me think he probably has no spiritual roots, as such he would be peak mortal. Plus his character would allow him to be some sort of leader. The evil path use a girl to seduce him to kill him. Maybe
So in wuxia he would be a top tier, while in xianxia he would be fodder with a high level weapon, so someone would probably use a blood curse or something to kill him. Then the shield would be refined and used by the killer
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u/Midori_Schaaf 24d ago
He's probably stage 6 or 7 body training on his own.
He could probably, with his experience, fight an entire realm above himself with that shield.
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u/Key-Cardiologist-835 Demonic Cultivator 23d ago
Is he allowed to train in martial arts? Cuz if he can control qi no one would beat him
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u/king_kira115 Cloudhawk 23d ago
These questions are always really difficult to answer because of all the unkowns, how are we supposed to ascertain his cultivation potential, the super soldier serum can be seen as a boon to body cultivation or a poison that uses up the body's potential to instantly bring the body to peak human ability.
Any attempt at this question is just based on whether you like the character or not which just makes it kinda lame
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u/Sentient-Nova 25d ago
If its comics, some immortal will steal his super shield and then Cap gets killed by a random demonic cultivator he underestimates
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u/One_Difference_5464 25d ago
He’s at best qi refining stage and he’ll get eaten alive by demonic cultivators
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u/LaCreammy Jade Beauty 25d ago
Comics or MCU? Because if its the comic version then it will require a xianxia immortal to be able to destroy it, it's really strong, Wuxia characters will never break it.