r/MensRights • u/Karim_Dilemma • 1d ago

General Is there any country where if I get falsely accused It doesn't destroy my life even if I was found innocent

Before you ask, no I wasn't falsely accused but I loved in a constant fear of that happening, I love the country i was born and I'm leaving but currently it's very complicated because there are a lot of innocent in jail for this kind of accusations; and no, I'm not searching a country where man have privileges and machismis common, I'm not even looking for a country where I can out in jail someone for injury, i just want to know I won't lose my job or house for a false accusation.

I was planning moving to Canada (still planned because I have family there but want to have a backup plan) but I saw that men from there have same problems.

If there isn't any country like that it's okay, just wanted to be sure.

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u/wumbo-inator 1d ago

There won’t be any legal repercussions if the legal system finds you innocent

Social consequences can be severe, but you can protect yourself by keeping good company of mature and reasonable people

As for jobs, that depends on workplace culture. They technically cannot fire you for something you didn’t do, but HR is infamous for both misandry and making stuff up to get people fired. HR is on the side of the business you work for and the ideology that inhabits HR types. They are not on your side. However, small businesses or businesses with a good work culture can help protect you from it.

I was falsely accused of rape at work and I got investigated. Ultimately the people that refused to let me document details to keep me safe became angry at me because I told my supervisor they wouldn’t let me document for my own safety. I had to be moved to another part of the place I worked at. It really sucked because that was my favorite area to work and had my favorite co-workers. (The ones that didn’t let me document details were a team I don’t usually work with). But I didn’t lose my job.

The best thing you can do is surround yourself with good company at work and in life. Don’t put yourself in situations where someone can falsely accuse you (don’t be alone in a secluded room with a woman at work) . And document everything

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u/Readshirt 1d ago

That's the thing - even the ideal scenario in these situations isn't very ideal.

You're absolutely right pragmatically - do what you can to defend yourself. But even kind, considerate people will distance themselves from you over this to save themselves in the event you're found guilty, even if they fully are on your side.

It's one of the most nefarious parts of a false accusation that needs to be spoken about and widely understood.

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u/Karim_Dilemma 1d ago

Thanks for the advice dude, but a lot of events in my life tell that even the most mature or reasonable and even the most "mature" even your own family are gonna be the first on leaving you behind if they find their "reputation" on risk, but honestly my social life it's the least of my concerns, it's my employability, yeah i can make my own business and all that but it takes a lot to succeed so currently I want to be safe at work, the only people that show me loyalty ate my parents, my best friend and my boyfriend but I don't want to let my guard down.

Thanks again dude, I'm glad you don't end up in a more dangerous situation.

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u/wumbo-inator 1d ago

Yeah I wish I could give you advice that’s so ironclad that you wouldn’t have to worry about it, but unfortunately that’s not the reality. Sorry it’s weighing on you like that. I wish you the best

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u/Karim_Dilemma 1d ago

I know man, but thanks anyway, it really means a lot that I can talk about this with more people that don't look at me like I'm crazy or dumb, even if it is anonymous.

Thanks again dude, and you stay safe too, it's a dangerous world outside.

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u/Vegetable_Ad1732 1d ago

First, I don't know for sure, this is just my perception. You said "I'm not searching a country where man have privileges". Well, that probably eliminates most of them, maybe all of them.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/TheIndustrialCritic 1d ago

At the same time men usually have to serve military there while being the enemy of the US and it’s allies, so I wouldn’t say it is fun to be either sex there

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u/Karim_Dilemma 1d ago

And i like crossdressing and i have a boyfriend so I'm gonna be killed if I go there.

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u/Vegetable_Ad1732 1d ago

Ok, in all of the places you want to go to, you're probably out of luck.

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u/Karim_Dilemma 1d ago

Just what I suspect, at least I try it, thank you buddy.

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u/Vegetable_Ad1732 1d ago

You're welcome.

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u/Current_Finding_4066 1d ago

Yes. Neverland.

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u/Karim_Dilemma 1d ago

Damn I try going there when I was in high school but I was to fearful to finish the job

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u/Knirb_ 1d ago

Be a political figure for the left

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u/Karim_Dilemma 1d ago

Too risky and too soon.

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u/Heavy_Consequence441 16h ago

False accusations are a big problem, but don't think you need to pick a country based on that. Just be careful, smart, and record if you feel like something could be used against you.

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u/motosandguns 1d ago

There wasn’t a #metoo movement in the UK because you cannot print somebody’s name until they have been found guilty.

But I still wouldn’t move there

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u/Karim_Dilemma 1d ago

I have more reasons to not move to the UK, but sadly something that is true it's that there's no place in the world that is like I'm describing in the post, and to be honest i was already expecting the answer confirming it, just wanted to get it out of my chest.

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u/Fair-Principle-3756 19h ago edited 14h ago

Unfortunately false rumors of any kind do tend to cause a level of gossip/reputational damage that’s hard to correct.

For example, I moved to a new city as soon as I left school and then moved back to my home town at 31. My biggest shock moving back was that a lot of silly rumours about myself from when I was at school were still very much alive in the community 15 years later.

I’ve learnt that rumours within communities are very difficult to “debunk” and the harder you try and set the record straight the more convinced people can become.

At least in the situation you’ve described where there’s a serious accusation resulting in a legal case and you’ve been found innocent, you have solid proof to back you up. I think for your own peace of mind, it would be best to move somewhere that gives you a certain level of anonymity, like a big city. Avoid small towns where everyone knows everyone and rumours spread like wildfire.

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u/1Cobbler 1d ago

Most non-Western countries probably.

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u/eternal_kvitka1817 13h ago edited 13h ago

While will you be conscripted to the army or even to the frontline because it is necessary "to protect womena nd children".

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u/crabpipe 1d ago

I find Europe is marginally better than USA

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u/Karim_Dilemma 1d ago

Well... Spain is in Europe and just like my country they will put you in jail unless or until you prove you are innocent but unlike my country you stay in jail even if there is no proof.

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u/Alert-Bug-3403 6h ago

Why would you feel in constant fear. Are you the type to put yourself in situations where accusations are possible?

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u/Karim_Dilemma 5h ago

Here we go..., Of course not, the problem is that i don't want to walk on the streets and having to change streets every 5 minutes because a woman is in front of me, which is a problem because I live in a city with the majority been female population.

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u/Alert-Bug-3403 5h ago

You don’t have to change streets every 5 minutes. And that’s such a delusional belief that you would be accused of rape for walking behind a woman.

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u/spitonthat-thang 5h ago

you don't have to avoid women. a decent woman will not accuse you of rape for just walking near them. you should lighten up, and stop living in fear of something that will most likely not happen to you.

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u/Karim_Dilemma 4h ago

Yeah, you are right, maybe I was just overwhelmed for recent events where I live.

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u/feriouscricket 1d ago edited 1d ago

Im pretty sure there are countries where something like this is illegal and you can sue for wrongfull termination of employment.

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u/Karim_Dilemma 1d ago

Yeah, there probably is one, but dang I wish more countries can be like that.

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u/TiredOldGrunt412 20h ago

1) Never be alone in a room with a female: If you walk into a room, and there's a female already in there, turn right around and walk out.

2) See Rule #1

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u/Karim_Dilemma 20h ago

Got it, I'm gonna follow that rule until the end.