People never fail to blame the victims or make it about women. Yet they wonder why modern men are so jaded and polarized.

Data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics on suicides. Male share is consistently ~75% of total:

And yet, Movember AU (the biggest men's charity in AU and globally) has just pledged $3.2M to reducing violence against women?!!! Disgusting. You can read about it here: https://au.movember.com/story/movember-partnering-with-department-of-social-services

There are plenty of women's charities to support women. Clearly men need all the support (or lack thereof) they can get. Movember says on their "Our Cause" page they are supporting MEN'S HEALTH:

Yet they are directly contradicting their mission by giving $3.2M to solve issues for women, instead of men. Either Movember's leadership has been compromised with feminist actors; or they are scared of being labelled 'misogynist' because they help men and not women.

This is not acceptable.

I don’t really know where to go with or how to label it. I (39m) and my fiancé (32f) have two children together (3f, <1f). Our 3yo can be a handful sometimes and all though I typically don’t believe in full moon bs. She was particularly extra today.

My fiancé is WFH, she will go to her parents house during the day (her dad watches the kids) and there until I’m home from work. She generally works from 9-4, 9-5ish with lots of spare time in between. She makes like 65k a year.

I on the other hand am an assistant plant manager and my schedule is very very unusual. I make around 70k but also get season tickets to the NFL to use or sell at the cost of the company. I work from 6:30am until 12 noon. When I get home she’s home or coming home with the kids and it’s my turn to keep the kids alive and be dad. Not always easy if the 3 year old doesn’t want to listen or screams for her mom. We butt heads and today in particular we butt heads big time and between my fiancé trying to work, my 3f throwing a tantrum and my <1f having a fit not napping my fiancé said out loud in front of my daughter but loud for new to hear “if I lose my job, daddy will have to get a real job”.

It fucking hurt, to know she doesn’t value my job because what, I don’t work 8 hours a day, I probably work 30 hours a week and make what I make. The freedom and flexibility to be present with my kids is huge to me but clearly she thinks less of me because of it.

I make more than she does, work less frequently and yet I need to get a “real job”. She said it out of anger in a frustrating moment but it hurt man. That like window into how she actually feels.

She apologized but I’m not feeling it.

• About 42,170 women will die from breast cancer.
• Around 39,200 men died by suicide in 2022

This is fucking insane. Where is the outrage here?

I'm always the first to talk in relationships, the conversationalist,the entertainer, the one who pays for food. Even when I'm getting to know her I'm the one who's giving her the most attention. It's annoying. I can't articulate it but I think you guys get the point.

This dating culture has men constantly chasing. Only to find out she was never worth the chase. I haven't texted the girl I'm currently talking to for a few days now. She's completely silent but I'm okay with that because I've actually moved on. I'm tired!!

Sorry for venting.

Edit: Thank you all my Lords for the feedback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNS_oiWEeus

Why is there so much hate against something so beneficial as a charitable organization that creates a safe space for men?

In 2021 The University of Tennessee Knoxville did a secondary study comparing the mental health of young men in fraternities to the mental health of young men not in fraternities. They found that fraternity men reported higher positive mental health scores, including a significantly lower risk of depression (though, a slightly higher risk of anxiety). Fraternity men were more likely to take advantage of therapy or counseling. In other words, brotherhood has TREMENDOUS benefits for men and boys.

That's just college fraternities, I wonder if there are similar studies about fraternal orders like the Masons or Rotary, etc. I imagine it would show similar results.

So if fraternities not only result in countless hours of community service and immeasurable amounts of money raised for charity but they ALSO increase the mental health of men and boys... then why are people so hateful against fraternities?

It is kind of self-explanatory due to the title, but I will elaborate nonetheless by sharing my personal experience in this field and then explaining how harmful it is to other males in society.

I feel very uncomfortable when women look at me and, despite no consent given from me, touch my body, mainly because they have no shame in doing so; it feels emasculating to view and degrade a man in such a predatory, or even straight-up objectifying manner. I get this a lot from women of my age and even women older than me (I am not 18 yet, therefore I am referring to grown adult women) and it discomforts me to my core. I do not want comments saying bullshit like "You're so lucky" or shit like that because I'm not, especially after the trauma I have already gone through. I do not feel safe around women or men, but for different reasons; women, however, tend to be much more upfront in their objectification and receive little backlash and even praise for it.

This is my experience with this topic; however, this issue goes far beyond just me.

While many people display condemnation toward the objectification of women by men (rightly so), the reverse happens to be less catered to or even completely neglected. Cultural norms further worsen this: comments from women regarding men's physicality-especially in a sexualised or predatory manner, commonly excused as "humour" or "admiration." These women may even be lauded by their peers and society as a whole for their "confidence" or "empowerment," further normalising this ridiculous double standard. This mindset, carried by women, is highly detrimental, particularly for young boys whose boundaries are crossed and constantly invalidated.

Boys are often taught to tolerate or accept this behaviour because our society frames it as a "compliment." This hinders the young boy's ability to establish and enforce personal boundaries, which males are expected to lack nowadays because "they don't need them." This leads to confusion and discomfort in situations where their autonomy is ignored.

When boys are told they're "lucky" or expected to feel proud rather than disturbed by objectification, they may suppress negative feelings, internalising discomfort or even trauma. This will commonly lead to difficulty in expressing emotions or seeking help, isolating male youth from ever moving on from this trauma.

Experiencing objectification at a young age, particularly from adults (especially females), can make boys feel unsafe and ashamed. Disregarding their discomfort can leave them feeling invalidated, as though their emotions are not worthy of recognition.

As boys become men, repeated instances of objectification can lead to a generalised distrust of women. This makes it harder to form healthy relationships, whether platonic or romantic. This can also lead to resentment towards women as a whole, similar to how a female victim of sexual harassment will grow to be weary when surrounded by men. However, the female's feelings are validated by society, whilst the male's feelings are incorrectly labelled as "misogynistic" or "bigoted."

Men who have endured objectification from females (and possibly males as well) may develop a heightened vigilance about their appearance and surroundings, leading to anxiety and perhaps even body dysmorphia. They might feel unsafe or scrutinised in social spaces, which are strongly related to the symptoms of female trauma survivors. Still, because of their gender, they are not treated with the same kindness and care that women often receive (however, it is essential to note that both genders still face discrimination for something they could not control).

Ending note:

Our society's normalisation of women objectifying men and the lack of accountability they are required to take creates a cycle of harm. Boys and men have to live in a world where their boundaries are less regarded and their pain less acknowledged. This affects not only individual mental health but also worsens broader issues, such as strained gender relations (men possibly entering unhealthy relationships with women who treat them as an object), unhealthy expressions of masculinity (men feeling that they are no longer men and must reassert their masculinity, which can lead to violent hatred towards the less masculine), and the stigmatisation of male vulnerability (which only makes men feel less open to talking about the trauma they have endured).

Edit: Next time I make a post, I will try to do a better job at painting women in a better light; it is unfair how my words might seem alienating for a female reader, which is precisely what happens when men read about male or female violence. Apologies to any females who have read this and feel slightly blamed for this problem; remember, it is some women, not all women. Have a wonderful time during these upcoming Holidays, everyone!

As a Level 2 autistic guy, I feel that there isn’t enough awareness about the way autism affects men in particular, despite the fact that there are 3 times as many autistic men as women.

So this post is for you guys.

Now, of course I won’t deny that autistic people regardless of gender face othering and exclusion from NTs. The research shows that autistic people are deemed less trustworthy and likable within only 10 seconds of interacting with an IQ-comparable NT.

NTs preemptively judge both autistic men and women negatively long before they can accurately determine the autistic people's personalities.

So you’d expect that these deleterious social effects would extend about equally to dating, right?

Unfortunately, the literature suggests otherwise.

16% of autistic men are in a relationship compared to 46% of autistic women.

When we look at prior relationship experience, the differences become even more stark.

This study states that most autistic women have been in relationships. In fact, they are more likely to have had relationships than even neurotypical men. The vast majority of autistic women have had sex.

But when we look at autistic men, things get beyond brutal. Only half of autistic men have even held a girl's hand. And 83% of autistic men are virgins.

"Well bro, maybe autistic men [and only autistic men, based on the data bro] lack empathy bro."

But this study indicates that autistic people don't lack empathy compared to NTs.

In fact, a big reason why autistic people are disliked is because they have trouble producing affective facial expressions like fake smiles.

Note again that both autistic men and women have empathy but are disliked by NTs because they don't jestermaxx.

"But bro, you can't be a pussy bro. You gotta try being normal bro. You gotta learn social skills bro. You missed out on thousands of hours of social development and it's time to catch up bro."

Masking is a grueling chore for both autistic men and women.

We're not talking about simple unwillingness to try.

It's literally the difference between being traumatized and mentally stable.

Pretending to “be normal" can literally traumatize an autistic person.

I can't say this enough. Society doesn't understand this point even at a basic level, and even some autistic people I’ve met are not conscious of the damaging psychological effects of masking. So assuming your stims or other symptoms aren’t harming anyone else, I need you to fully digest this:

When people tell you to “act normal” or “have more empathy,” they are trying to gaslight you into trauma. Don’t let them.

Autistic men and women struggle with the same issues regarding societal acceptance—or more accurately, the lack thereof. Yet, on top of this social ostracization, autistic men have it much harder than autistic women when it comes to finding a date.

And society does not want to acknowledge this. Instead, we are often painted as hateful inkwells just for acknowledging these data.

Like, are those PhD psychologists of all races and genders who conducted these studies at the world’s leading research institutions inkwells too? The cognitive dissonance is very disturbing to me. It reeks of intellectual dishonesty and gaslighting at every level.

But yeah, if you’re an autistic guy like me and find it difficult to date, don’t blame yourself, and never let people gaslight you.

Instead, don’t be a free agent in life.

Let the bl*ckpill guide you.

I feel mentally castrated by feminism after all the media bombarment and shaming tactics against men. I think my attraction towards women has been severely affected because of the cult tactics used to shame normal and healthy relations. My sex drive is almost dead compared to previous years but I want to recover it.

Has anyone been on the same spot? Is recovery even possible? I try to force myself in to liking women again but It is not the same anymore. I don't like men and I miss the old me full of vigor and playfulness.

Hey folks,
I came across this Reddit thread where people were sharing their thoughts about how hard it is for men to open up emotionally. I decided to dive deep into over 1,100 comments on the topic and analyze them using ChatGPT to get some perspective on this issue. I honestly didn’t expect the results to be so heavy, but here’s what I found: PieChart

• 71.8% of the comments were negative: The majority of men said they’ve been hurt or judged for showing vulnerability. Many shared that their emotions were used against them, or they were called "weak" or "too emotional" when they tried to open up. This has led a lot of men to suppress their feelings entirely.
• 28.8% of comments referenced past bad experiences: A significant number of guys mentioned how bad past experiences have shaped their reluctance to share their emotions. Many were betrayed, manipulated, or rejected when they opened up in the past, which makes it harder for them to trust others with their feelings now.
• Why men bottle things up: A lot of the comments also highlighted how societal expectations and past hurts make it hard to feel safe expressing emotions. There’s this fear of being seen as weak or vulnerable, which creates a vicious cycle of emotional suppression.
• The toll of holding it all in: The more I read, the more it became clear that a lot of men are internalizing their struggles. This emotional bottling can lead to serious consequences, like mental health issues, isolation, and even physical health problems.

Discussion:

This really hit me hard, and I wanted to share it because it’s an issue that doesn’t get talked about enough. It’s concerning how many men feel like they have nowhere to turn when it comes to sharing their feelings. This kind of emotional suppression isn’t healthy for anyone.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this:

• Do you think society places unrealistic expectations on men when it comes to emotions?
• How can we make it safer for men to open up without the fear of judgment or rejection?
• Have any of you gone through similar struggles? How did you handle it?

I pulled these insights from the original thread here: Dear Men, do you open up? — it’s a great read if you want to check it out!

Linked Video

I'd like to say the therapist showcased at the start of the linked video should have their license revoked for their horrible treatment of men. However, considering the unprofessional state of the mental health industry as a whole, I expect that this type of misandrist attitude is actually a requirement for having a license in the first place. There are still a few good ones out there who truly care about men's mental health – like Tom Golden – but unfortunately they're the exception, not the rule.

Everytime I seek support and guidance and open up about my struggles with dating and how I feel lonely, people always fucking say "no one owes you anything" and tell me to not view women as sex objects.

I dont feel either of those things. im sick of people using those phrases over and over again.

Men’s health in 2025

By a random 16 year old boy

PS: I apologize for grammar errors I'm not very good at English but was passionate about this topic.

I would like to preface this before I get into this topic and say I am a sixteen year old boy who lives in America. This paper will talk about male issues in 2025 with topics such as society, Division, College/schooling and men not getting help

Society

In America as of 2025 we are not happy as a society, Sucide rates are at their peak, according to CDC Sucide prevention Sucide rates increased 37% between 2000-2018 and decreased 5% between 2018-2020 however, rates returned to their peak in 2022 CDC Sucide prevention also states The suicide rate among males in 2022 was approximately four times higher than the rate among females. Males make up 50% of the population but nearly 80% of suicides why do we think this is?

Division

Females and Males have never been more divided this is hurting are society badly and I think is contributing to suicide rates with questionable movements being pushed such as feminism, feminism as helped cause a divide between men and women, the idea of feminism is great but as of the 20th century the concept of it as been twisted with feminist cancelling International men's day which woulda highlighted male struggle and male accomplishment over the years, you would think as in the dictionary “Feminism means” equality of sex,  they would be all for an international men's day as they have a international women's day but they signed petitions to cancel that day and prevent it from happening which is very hypocritical.

College/schooling

Data Shows that students who had some college but failed to get credential are 46.5% men and 44.5% women in terms of graduation rates the EDI in 2024 found that 67.6% of females graduate in six years, while only 61.1% of males graduate according to Research.com. High School dropout rates show dropout rates for males are 6.3% higher than females. We wonder why this is, interviews with students and educators point to the fact  that men are likely to not pursue help as often when they face mental health challenges.

Finding help

Men tend to not get help with their mental problems. Men associate getting help with weakness and shame, why do men associate asking for help with weakness, because of cultural and society norms with phrases such as “boys don’t cry” being instilled at a young age. What type of people could say phrases like this, the same people who made a profit off of “Male tears” which is a concept to make fun of men who complain about how oppressed they are. Or how difficult it is for them. It seems like feminism is causing men to not talk about their feelings as when men do they get shut down by feminist.

Future

I fully believe that if both sex’s worked together as a team to solve each other's issues we could fix these problems men are facing. Feminism has taken over Hollywood and social media apps, feminism is now the social norm and I'm certain the male suicide and high school dropout rates will continue to go up.

Sources used

Sucide:https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html#:~:text=Suicide%20rates%20increased%2037%25%20between,to%20their%20peak%20in%202022.&text=Data%20table%20showing%20data%20for%20the%20chart%20figure.&text=Skipped%20data%20table.

International men's day: 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/nov/17/row-after-university-of-york-cancels-international-mens-day-event

College dropout rates https://research.com/universities-colleges/college-dropout-rates#:~:text=Data%20shows%20that%20students%20who,only%2061.1%25%20of%20males%20do

High School dropout rates

https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb//population/qa01503.asp?qaDate=2018

Why men are dropping out

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2023/11/01/boys-graduate-from-high-school-at-lower-rates-than-girls-with-lifelong-consequences/71399679007/#:~:text=Interviews%20with%20students%2C%20educators%20and,they%20face%20mental%20health%20challenges.

Men associating getting help with weakness

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mental-health-nerd/201911/men-are-afraid-ask-help

Mens Cultural  and society norms 

https://creatingchange.net.au/mens-health-talk-about-their-feelings/#:~:text=Cultural%20and%20Social%20Norms%3A%20From,for%20men%20to%20express%20vulnerability.

Male Tears

https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/male-tears/

From the study

“The researchers argue that men, on average, rely more on their romantic partners for emotional support and intimacy than women do. They suggest that this discrepancy stems from gendered socialization patterns: men are less likely to cultivate strong, emotionally supportive friendships or family ties outside of romantic relationships, while women are encouraged to develop broader networks of intimacy and care. These differences make romantic relationships disproportionately significant for men in fulfilling emotional and psychological needs.”

Get out with your buddies and pour your heart out. Buy them a drink and even dinner and let them know what you are really thinking. Line your life depends on it.

It's common for feminists to say that men's loneliness is men's fault and they often mock and ridicule lonely men. They constantly use stories of a woman being murdered and use it to generalize lonely men, despite the fact that the offender may have not necessarily been a lonely man, let alone motivated by loneliness. In fact, there's no evidence that lonely men who struggle with dating are more misogynistic, and if anything, they're less misogynistic. Misogynistic men were found to be far more promiscuous than other men, and often are short-term mating oriented. They have relationship experience and a high amount of casual sex experience. The incel online community is just an overemphasized minority of misogynists.

This so-called "dating expert" named DatePsych on Twitter has spent a lot of time portraying lonely men negatively, and cites studies to try to "prove" it. He cites a study he conducted himself showing that almost half of young adult men have never approached a woman before, but he even acknowledges himself that his sample probably had a sampling bias. He believes people who pursue dating more were overrepresented, but I think it's the opposite. It could be people who were blackpilled, love-shy, or lacked dating opportunities disproportionately responded to the study. He also cites studies saying that men playing videogames or not socializing is why casual sex is declining (but many people still DO have casual sex, regardless of whether it is less common). The problem is that this could include people who are sexless because they're not interested in sex or who are very introverted or not interested in social gatherings as much, not people who are interested in these things but lack the occasion. Also, it could be that people who struggle with dating have less social lives and struggle with meeting people because many grew up ostracized or rejected by peers, and because they lack a social life, might play videogames in their free time when they don't have anyone to hang out with. It's not that they aren't looking for a social life, but when they have a weekend without anyone to talk to, they'll spend time playing videogames to fill the void. Maybe there's more introverts than they used to, maybe people are taking more time to adjust to adulthood these days (i.e.: a slow life history strategy), and maybe more technology gives people more things to do indoors. He even tries to say that men aren't interested in being friends with other men and that's why they are isolated. Well no, that's not it.

Men who are lonely or isolated aren't the types who just refuse to be friends with other men, and if they refuse, they're probably not lonely out of it.

The truth is, both men and women are less interested in being friends or hanging out with men compared to women. Women tend to be more socially popular. There's even evidence showing that people socially stigmatize autistic men more than autistic women even when controlling for autism severity and masking, and that the neurotypical women were rated the most socially likeable, with autistic women being just slightly less socially liked than neurotypical men and far more socially liked than autistic men. They conclude that being a woman is a protective factor against social stigma for autistic women. This can be explained by the fact that people are more interested in being friends with women and this can explain why women get more attention on social media. In fact, men tended to prefer a higher number of friends but less close or intimate, whereas women preferred a few very close friends. Women were very close with their friends and would discuss personal issues with them, whereas men preferred doing things with their friends, especially as a group. This can include drinking at bars, playing sports, or going to the gym together. Many men even were willing to cancel plans with male friends to spend time with female friends, and were more interested in sharing their emotions and personal problems with female friends the way women do with each other. This isn't due to "toxic masculinity", but men tend to enjoy doing things together as a group and often prefer a high number of friends who do things as groups rather than be close friends.

So why is this? It's not due to "toxic masculinity". In fact, cross-culturally, it was found that universally across societies, men have a hierarchal preferences of many male friends with a few closer ones than others with less intimacy, and women have preferences for a clique of a few close friends with dyadic relationships. This is for evolutionary reasons. Men might need to form clubs of men together during the sexual division of labor to fight against attackers or to hunt together or protect their community. Women were hardwired to prefer same-sex dyadic friendships for multiple reasons: Given the likelihood of ancestral patrilocality (where the woman would live in the husband's home or near the husband's parents or community), young women often would enter communities where they lacked kin. For women, kin is fitness-enhancing, which is shown in anthropoid primates and humans. As a result, women were hardwired to find close same-sex friendships where kin did not exist so they could be safe and have someone to talk to in case they deal with aggression from others whether it's aggressive men or inter-female aggression in the new community where she lacks kin. In patrilocal bonobos, the female bonobos will enter foreign communities in adolescence and bond with other females, especially older ones. The researchers elaborate:

A second explanation posits that, since females are the driving agents in human pair- bond formation, it may be a female-specific sexual strategy to form exclusive dyadic relationships. In this framework, the high frequency of female-female dyads in women’s lives might be a by-product of a preference for pairbonding. A third explanation focuses on females’ unique capacity for intense empathic relationships, derived from the mother-infant bond. In this model, heightened female empathy creates an emphasis on individual relationships as a consequence of the psychological toolbox of mothering. In comparison, males generally neither have nor require this capacity, and hence they form less emotionally close bonds, those of friendship included.

The researchers even said that this difference in friendship styles between men and women was discovered cross-culturally and among the closest related species, like chimpanzees and bonobos.

A study finds that men tend to value sexual attractiveness in an opposite-sex friend a lot, and women value it to some degree in opposite sex friends, but less than men do. Men viewed sexual attraction as a somewhat important reason for initiating friendships with women, and women valued it as not very important. Nonetheless, men did not find it that important to initiate a friendship with women to pursue sex, and women did not find it important at all, whether she was single or taken, and certainly not if she was taken. Sexual attraction was viewed as fairly important in an opposite sex friendship by men, especially single men, and even women, although not as often, viewed it as somewhat important (at least single women). Although men, unlike women, viewed desire for sex as somewhat important in a friendship with women, they did not usually have it as a reason to start a friendship with women. Neither men nor women view lack of sex as a reason to end an opposite sex friendship. Nonetheless, some men viewed loss of attraction as a slightly, but not very important reason to end a friendship with women, but not many viewed it as that important of a reason. Women valued physical strength in a partner as somewhat important, and viewed it as a somewhat important reason to befriend a man. Both men and women, at least when single, considered someone being a potential romantic partner as a slightly important reason for initiating friendships with them. Men were more likely to value friendships with a woman due to sexual attraction than women, but that doesn't mean they prioritized it. Women were far more likely to desire a male friend for protection or end her friendship due to lack of protection, but that doesn't mean she prioritized it in male friends. The biggest predictor of why one valued sexual attraction or desire for sex in a partner was sociosexuality. Men have a less restricted sociosexuality than women (unless women ovulate). Sociosexuality was also a bigger predictor than gender for why one initiated a friendship by viewing someone as relationship material. Men and women's reasons for ending opposite sex friendship were usually due to arguments or falling outs or betrayals (e.g.: they tried to turn others against me), and men rarely ended friendships because of a lack of sex, and women were actually more likely to end friendships because he wasn't able to protect her than men were to end a friendship because she wasn't sexually interested in him.

This myth feminists make up of a man who pretends to be friends with women to have sex with them does not exist. While men might value attraction to a woman to some extent in why they befriend them, they don't prioritize it and they don't usually end the friendships with them if they don't become a relationship or a fling. If they do, it might be due to the awkwardness after her not reciprocating interest rather than not valuing the friendship. Women value protection to some extent in why they befriend men, but that doesn't mean they usually end friendships just because he couldn't protect her nor does that mean she's using him for protection. Men and women, particularly when single, can value a potential relationship to some extent when befriending the opposite sex. Men might do it more because they have less restricted sociosexualities and pursue more, but that doesn't mean they prioritize it or end friendships off of no relationship or fling happening. Additionally, research shows most relationships began as friendships and they didn't usually have feelings at first or that they developed feelings after a couple years knowing each other. That's why people often get ghosted when dating, because people often look for dates by asking out people they just met or on apps, which only works more for short-term flings unless you meet someone very similar to you. People, especially if single, might value relationships to some extent when looking at befriending the opposite sex, but it doesn't mean they prioritize it. Many friendzoned men may have eventually developed feelings into the friendship and then wanting a relationship by that point, and she didn't reciprocate. It doesn't mean he never valued a friendship with them. It's not that simple.

It's hard for men to make friends compared to women because people are not interested in getting close with men.

There's evidence that men are less likely to have a best friend than women but this switches when people become elderly. Men's social circles decline when they turn 30 or older and marry, and this could be because they have a family to protect and no longer need to form a club of men who can fight outsiders or hunt together historically. Young women often need female friends for alloparental care and emotional support, which is good for their fitness and motherhood. Although men lose their male friends when marrying as they get older, women don't lose their female friends for aforementioned reasons, but women have less friends or social contacts after age 50 when they begin to focus more on becoming a grandparent and taking care of grandchildren (especially when her husband might be more likely than her to die before her). As a result, women have to focus more on taking care of grandkids.

It's harder for men to befriend others because lonelier men do want a social life, and without one, it's hard to meet potential partners anyways. Unfortunately, many people are more interested in befriending women than men, and many men might have friend groups or might not be able to become close friends with new men, so they might not be able to hang out one on one and get to know each other. This is a factor in why research shows men are more isolated than women up until old age, but it's not an isolated man's fault because it's harder for him to attract new friends when he wants to. Remember: what men in general think like is not the same as what isolated or lonely men in particular think like.

Conclusion

Feminists should quit blaming lonely men for their loneliness or isolation and accusing them of blaming women. Research has shown that misogynistic men tend to be promiscuous, not virgins, and involuntarily sexless men are less misogynistic, not more. Also, antisocial (not to be confused with asocial) behaviors were positively correlated with more male friends for men, and misogynistic men have more antisocial traits (i.e.: sociopathic traits). Many isolated, lonely men do want friends and are not the same as men who don't, and they often have been bullied, ostracized or rejected by peers growing up and struggled to socially integrate, which severely increases the risk of adulthood virginity. While they were socially withdrawn growing up, it could be it's either due to severe shyness/social anxiety (which is unchosen) or because of their negative social experiences. It's not their fault.

And few, if any, of these men say it's women in general in particular's responsibility to fix them. This is a myth made up by feminists to have an excuse to demonize these men. They put words into men's mouths just to demonize them so they can ridicule or shame men who fail to conform to traditional masculine stereotypes. Society doesn't like men who open up or who struggle with dating, and feminists hate these kinds of men and will make up lies about them to excuse ridiculing them, even though misogynistic men often were found to be promiscuous, beer-drinking jocks or frat boys rather than lonely virgins without friends. Male loneliness/isolated is not a man's fault or a result of his own actions, but a result of unfair circumstances. It's nobody's fault. If feminists think women are owed support by society, then so are men owed support. Feminists just think men need to tough out their issues independently because they are men, and believe women should be protected. They don't admit to this mindset, but they imply it.