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u/MrManager17 Detroit 20d ago

Mallory McMorrow

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u/cozybirdie 20d ago

Yes I’ve been saying this!!

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u/MrManager17 Detroit 20d ago

It sounds like she's going to enter the race (fingers crossed).

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 20d ago

Well, time is NOW to get the word out and become a household name.

And after his vote on the budget, I'd kick peters in the teeth if I could. He let this state down badly with that vote, and he didn't have to given that he wouldn't be running in a re-election anyway. What a fucking ah.

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u/Ashannfish 20d ago

Have you called to encourage him to immediately resign so Whitmer can appoint his replacement? He likely won't but it's worth letting him know he sucks and you'd prefer someone who performs the job.

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 20d ago

More than once. Schumer, too. I think they simply don't gaf.

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u/andy313 20d ago

Liberal but definitely not a leftist. Probably the frontrunner or at least seems to have the most hype at the moment.

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u/Lightsbr21 20d ago

Michigan isn't Vermont. Frankly liberal not a leftist is a feature not a bug in a purple state.

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u/BullsOnParadeFloats Hazel Park 20d ago

When you remove party affiliation, Michigan is quite progressive. Every progressive initiative that was put to vote passed overwhelmingly in the state.

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u/essentialrobert 20d ago

Initiatives aren't tied to straight party ticket voting.

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u/BullsOnParadeFloats Hazel Park 20d ago

Exactly. When you get past tribalist bullshit, the people lean more progressive.

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u/Psychological_Pay530 20d ago

Neither is how far left or right on the political spectrum you are.

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u/vickism61 20d ago

Oh really? How Bernie Sanders won Michigan

Polls favoring Clinton missed voters' passion, job concerns, dissatisfaction with status quo

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/09/high-turnout-late-deciding-voters-give-bernie-sanders-michigan-primary/81527800/

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u/OneShotsTavern 20d ago

People really don’t understand Michigan voters. Progressives aren’t just popular on the left. Bernie Sanders and other progressives are popular with the working class, including people who voted for Trump. It’s moderate liberals who are not especially popular.

My dad voted for Bernie. Then Trump. Then never again. He has just sat out since 2016. Says there’s no point..

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u/theJMAN1016 Royal Oak 20d ago

I keep telling people. The powers that be WANT you to think this is a Red vs Blue issue.

IT IS NOT!!!

We are at an inflection point in our history and its about the working class vs the rich. It is up to us to see through the BS and realize that you have more in common with your working class Republican or Democrat citizens than you do with ANY politician (except for maybe a handful).

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u/andy313 20d ago

Exactly this. It’s all in the framing and messaging.

Hmm I wonder who benefits from the fact that so many mainstream Democratic voters believe the solution is more moderates and not going too far left? Why do you think there is so much internal party opposition when people like Bernie or AOC have momentum? It’s not because they fear they can’t win, it’s because of what would happen when they do! Politicians would need to serve the people, instead of just the wealthy, corporations, special interests, and the Military Industrial Complex they serve now. The system would actually become democratic, which to corporate politicians on both sides of the aisle, is the scariest prospect possible.

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u/OneShotsTavern 20d ago

Exactly. People look at the working class and wonder why so many voted for Trump. It’s because he spoke directly to them. Now they’re realizing they were lied to and they have no one to turn to due to purity politics.

This past election was a disaster because the democrats ignored the issues their voters actually care about. Trump’s team dove straight in and dug the fingers in, and then on social issues went straight to misinformation and lying.

What did the democrats do in return? They didn’t talk about social issues. They ignored the economy. They didn’t appeal to the working class. They just said “Trump is weird.”

Yeah, that worked for 2 weeks. But they needed to evolve a progressive message past that to support workers, and their base in general.

Instead they tried to go for moderate republicans who were never going to vote for them.

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u/Psychological_Pay530 20d ago

Quick point of fact, they stopped calling Trump weird because the moderate focused campaign thought it might turn off moderate voters. They absolutely should have kept their foot on that pedal.

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u/mcflycasual Ferndale 19d ago

Now we have to deal with a bunch of weirdos.

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u/essentialrobert 20d ago

My dad voted for Bernie. Then Trump.

People get drawn into the personality not the politics and easily fall for demagogues.

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u/OneShotsTavern 20d ago

Yeah, it’s a shame really. Bernie’s politics line up so much more for my dad than Trump ever did. Even his Trumpy friends say things like “now I hate AOC/Bernie but they’re not completely wrong” or “I like can’t believe I’m agreeing with them…” So I ask “why do you hate them?” And they always give a weird conspiracy answer.

A lot of damage has been done.

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u/johcampb1 20d ago

Man, it's like we have a huge union here and he's one of the few politicians that support unions.

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u/cantaloupecarver 20d ago

Union members vote for anti-union candidates in massive numbers.

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u/johcampb1 20d ago

Yes my point is there is generally a more favorable view of unions of the gerneral citizenshop. even if the dipshits in them don't understand what they do.

Could be wrong. 100% basing this off feels.

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u/cantaloupecarver 20d ago

No, on that you're right: https://news.gallup.com/poll/12751/labor-unions.aspx

It's historically hovered between 50-60% positive view of unions, but has surged up to 70% recently. It is fascinating though, the overall approval is higher than it is among the socioeconomic group most likely to belong to a union.

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u/antilochus79 20d ago

Bernie won the Democratic primary, not a general election. There’s a difference.

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u/RestillHabb 20d ago

I am curious though, if Bernie had primaried Hillary, I wonder if more democrats would have participated in the election in Michigan in 2016. I think there are more progressive Dems out there than the DNC knows what to do with.

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u/PickleNotaBigDill 20d ago

Quite frankly, the DNC right now is a shit show, do nothing pile of chit, letting its liberal voters down with their inability to pull people together. They need to get their heads out of their asses right now and force Schumer and Jeffries to step down as they are incredibly ineffectual leaders and pull for those who really want to see some effective leadership in place. For Schumer to give in to that budget without any rewrites or any changes at all is just disgusting, and I haven't donated since they let us down so badly.

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u/antilochus79 20d ago

I am curious as well.

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u/essentialrobert 20d ago

Except on a national basis he came in second in the primary.

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u/jaron_bric Downriver 20d ago

Are we really citing politics from what will be 10 years prior?? Michigan has gone so much further right/less left since then.

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u/Acme_Co 20d ago

Literally 2 years ago we had a Democratic House, Senate, Supreme Court, and Governor. We still have 3 of the 4 now.

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u/pierogieman5 Kentwood 20d ago edited 20d ago

I think people very incorrectly read support for Trump or dissatisfaction with the dems as voters "going further right". Politics is not a linear sliding scale with 2 poles. Trump is as much a populist as he is a conservative, if not far moreso. Indeed, he has reversed many things Republicans used to care about, and they just kinda go along with it. All of this is to say, people aren't nailed to a point on the political spectrum, even loosely. A lot of people in AoC's district in New York voted for her and Trump on the same ballot. A lot of people are not nearly as ideologically consistent as outdated political analysis would like to assume. A lot of the time, they just want a loud person sticking it to the man, and don't know jack shit about ideology or facts. Rhetorical style and messaging means more than any attempt to categorize people in left and right tribes. It's what moves people around and motivates turnout.

The fact that the DNC advisors have their heads up their asses about this is the main reason Kamala lost so much momentum when they took over. They have no sauce and no agenda. At the end of the election, dissatisfied people vote to burn it all down because the alternative has no appeal.

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u/Damnatus_Terrae 20d ago

A lot of people are not nearly as ideologically consistent as outdated political analysis would like to assume. A lot of the time, they just want a loud person sticking it to the man, and don't know jack shit about ideology or facts. Rhetorical style and messaging means more than any attempt to categorize people in left and right tribes. It's what moves people around and motivates turnout.

Don't worry, political scientists understand that the average voter can't tell a ballot box from a hole in the ground. That hasn't changed yet in the history of electoral politics. But the Right is generally better at exploiting ignorance than the Left, because the Left sees ignorant voters as a problem, whereas the Right sees them as the solution.

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u/pierogieman5 Kentwood 20d ago edited 20d ago

You don't have to not see them as a problem in order to take them into account appropriately. Telling the truth can still be a bonus for the people who know or care about the facts. You can't rely on that supporting a movement though. You need big promises, big goals, and frankly, also clear enemies. The left can do that too, and we don't have to lie. Corporate stooge neoliberals and the donor class that support and advise the Democratic party leadership get in the way though.

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u/Similar-Breadfruit50 19d ago

They don’t see them a solution. They see them as an opportunity. And they will hurt them more than anyone else with almost all of their policies.

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u/Damnatus_Terrae 19d ago

They are the solution to the problem of democracy.

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u/Similar-Breadfruit50 19d ago

Yes, when you look at it that way, you are right.

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u/vickism61 20d ago

Yes. The elections are very close in Michigan (49.7 to 48.3 in 2024) and a leftist like Bernie could easily win as we saw when he recently drew 10,500 people to a fight the oligarchy rally in Warren.

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u/Oi_cnc 20d ago

This is the same logic that loses the dems elecetion over and over. Frankly, it is the reason we are where we are as a country. They have been capitulating to right wing framing for so long they forgot how to propose a populist vision for the future. Run of the mill Dems are not good enough for this moment. You need reps that will stand on merit. Being unclear on your positions, or "middle of the roading it" comes off as inauthentic and allows the right to run unopposed in terms of messaging.

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u/Damnatus_Terrae 20d ago

Liberalism is only a feature when you're coming out of an absolutist monarchy. It was revolutionary in its time—over a century and a half ago.

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u/firemage22 Dearborn 20d ago

Michigan sent John D Dingell sr & jr to congress for ages, we're plenty progressive if given the option.

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u/cozybirdie 20d ago

You’re being way too unreasonable if you’re making such a distinction. She’s the perfect bridge to liberals and leftists as her policies have been the most progressive out of all of our elected officials in the state. She has the respect from both the democrats and progressives. She is undoubtedly the best step in the left direction we could ask for. She’s been attending protests at Lansing and speaking, she’s been speaking about project 2025 since last year and has been unafraid to criticize Trump going back to Covid.

God we are so cooked if we’re picking apart the most qualified progressive potential candidate we’ve seen in years for not being left enough.

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u/MrManager17 Detroit 20d ago

It's the core problem with the progressive movement. Sacrificing something objectively good in pursuit of perfect through gatekeeping, purity tests, etc.

It needs to stop for us to have a chance.

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u/DadWagonDriver 20d ago

Right? The Republicans didn't turn into this fascist hellscape of a party overnight; they've elected candidates further and further to the right over decades now. Many progressives (self excluded here) won't accept this for some reason and want perfect NOW and will sit at home if they don't get it. That goes for the "both sides" idiots as well.

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u/andy313 20d ago

Either you’re reading way too much into my comment, or I’m reading way too much into what OP was asking. They said “true leftist” candidates, so I was just responding to that.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

She's partially responsible for helping the GOP make it so that servers don't get paid full minimum wage. She ain't progressive

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u/Similar-Breadfruit50 19d ago

We will continue to lose because of this. Leftists continually let perfect be the enemy of good while screaming about Bernie who is older than Biden and has never actually passed his own legislation in his time in Congress (and I like him but facts are facts).

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u/MrManager17 Detroit 20d ago

Depends on how you define leftist, which can be interpreted in many ways. She is certainly progressive, smart, and energetic. She would have my vote.

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u/BmacSWA 20d ago

…to the LEFT of center. That’s pretty much it

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u/Important-Purchase-5 20d ago

Do you support universal healthcare, wealth redistribution through progressive taxation, stronger labor rights, environmental regulations, criminal justice reform and campaign finance reform

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u/cantaloupecarver 20d ago

So literally just the 2020 Democratic platform is leftist now?

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u/Important-Purchase-5 20d ago

Do you actually believe in these things if you’re a leftist.

Do you support true campaign finance reform getting money out of politics and do you shun corporate donations?

Do you support Medicare for All?

Do you support the PRO ACT?

Do you support a wealthy tax?

Do you support a living wage?

Do you support Green New Deal?

Like you could say yeah I support climate change, unions, campaign finance reform and expanding healthcare without actually supporting these things above mention?

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u/cantaloupecarver 20d ago

Well there's the fact that the PRO ACT is poorly developed policy and nothing else on that list is actual policy -- they're all philosophical.

You think you've said something, but you've really just cited ideals.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

I define it as not helping the GOP to whip up votes to change the minimum wage and sick leave laws that were just implemented

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u/ykshish 19d ago

Lol, then expecting him to pull a Slotkin and Peters once elecred and then another stupid post cryin about him will be made.

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u/1900grs 20d ago edited 20d ago

I see people toss her name out, but I have no idea what she's actually done. She made one response about the right co-opting religion that went viral, but I never see anyone note accomplishments. Not saying she doesn't have them, but never see people talk about them.

Edit: typo

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

She helped whip up votes to make sure that servers don't get paid minimum wage

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u/Igoos99 20d ago

Whoever this hypothetical candidate is needs to be able to win the majority of votes.

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u/farmingrobin 20d ago

This right here is why the Dems are going to continue to lose. Instead of getting this hypothetical unicorn republicans who AcTUaLly want to vote dem, why not get your base excited, mobilized and excited to get out there knocking on doors

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u/Desperate-Fee7802 20d ago

She seems to be a solid candidate from her past work.

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u/kwisen 20d ago

It is very important we primary some very left candidates. I'd love to hear names. Especially of rough-neck liberals who will push an anti-Russia message in the rural areas.

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u/Pink_pony4710 20d ago

Abdul El-Sayed would be great! Heard him speak at the Bernie rally and he seems super smart with a background in public health. Literally wrote the book on Medicare for all.

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u/Ashannfish 20d ago

I really hope he runs for something again. I think his communication style, knowledge, energy, and compassion would make him a great Congress person.

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u/PissNBiscuits 20d ago

People like this are exactly what we need. We need actual progressives who can effectively communicate their message to Americans who don't trust the Democratic establishment to stand up for their best interests (rightfully so, I might add). The Republicans and MAGA are a bunch of soulless ghouls, but they've mastered the art of communicating their message, even if that message is nothing more than a con and a grift for their billionaire oligarchs.

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u/cozybirdie 20d ago

Mallory Mcmorrow!!!

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u/GamerGurl3980 20d ago

This is a bit off topic; but why do people hate Slotkin? What did she do? I keep seeing people talk poorly about her.

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u/siberianmi Kalamazoo 20d ago

She voted to confirm some people who Trump nominated.

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u/damnthatsgood Lansing 20d ago

She addressed this in her telephone town hall. She said that of those she voted to confirm, she either thought they were qualified OR she felt like she had to confirm them because she needs to be able to ask favors from these people on behalf of her constituents. She gave an example of something that happened recently: some company was going to have to cut 1,000 employees due to federal budget cuts, and she basically called in a favor to one of these people she voted to confirm and so far, the cuts and those job losses have not happened. So, tldr; she felt like she needed to play politics in order to be an effective Senator and get shit done.

Please don’t downvote me if you dislike Slotkin, I’m just trying to pass on some info because I did happen to listen to the whole town hall.

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u/4handbob 20d ago

I’d like to add for anyone who might not know that the Republicans had the votes to confirm all of the nominees without Democratic votes, so Slotkin or any other Democrat withholding their votes wouldn’t have changed the outcome in those votes.

The only one that got close to failing was Hegseth (they needed Vance as tie breaker) and no Democrats voted for Hegseth.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

Did she address voting for the laken reiley act now that ICE has shown what they wanted it for?

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u/damnthatsgood Lansing 19d ago

I don’t remember Laken Riley Act coming up on the call.

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u/Damnatus_Terrae 19d ago

Shocker.

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u/SrCoolbean 20d ago

But she didn’t do exactly what I, someone with zero experience in politics, would have done! Fire her immediately

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

I would rather fire her for being a Democrat that thinks Ronald Reagan was a good deal to aspire to

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u/BeezerBrom 20d ago

She is a centrist who ran on being a centrist and partisans don't like centrists

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u/Tank3875 20d ago

No one likes centrist, even centrists hate centrists.

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u/Damnatus_Terrae 19d ago

A centrist is just anyone too dumb or spineless to form political opinions.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

Oh yeah, I completely forgot she voted for the laken reiley act that's helping ICE get away with its current bullshit

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u/GamerGurl3980 19d ago

God, that's awful!

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u/b333nss 20d ago

Michigan voted for Trump and Slotkin in the last election and you think Michigan will elect a Progessive Senator? More likely to wind up with Rogers or some other maga yes man.

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u/andy313 20d ago

Actual progressives would be people like Abdul El-Sayed or Rashida. But I think most candidates will be Dem establishment types, like McMarrow and Nessel, folks more or less in line w/ Whitmer, and I imagine it will be a crowded primary.

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u/Few_Internet9205 20d ago

Yes to El-Sayed! I wonder if Rashida would run, I feel like not right now. Ive been wondering what’s happening with Justin Amash and if he’d reappear.

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u/Training_Tomatillo95 20d ago

Amash certainly isn’t going to be running as a democrat.

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u/jimmy_three_shoes Royal Oak 20d ago

Rashida wouldn't win a statewide general, and she's also not really a "good" Representative (capital R) either. She's a good activist and a rubber stamp Democrat vote, but she doesn't put forth much legislation, and has a tendency to not play well with her own party either. We can't have one of our two Senators just there to vote. They need to be pushing legislation, getting on committees to steer bills that benefit Michigan residents, not just Financial Services and the Oversight Committee.

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u/MrManager17 Detroit 20d ago

As a lifelong, self-identified liberal/progressive, I would have a very tough time willingly voting for Rashida.

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u/amadhippie 20d ago

Only because she is critical of Israel? You'll never get progressive politics if a politician will not admit the U.S funding 10,000+ children deaths is evil.

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u/jimmy_three_shoes Royal Oak 20d ago

The problem with Progressive politics in the Senate, is that because only two get elected from each state, Alaska has the same amount of voting power as California, as Hawaii does of Texas. So in theory, a lot of the Progressive legislation gets Moderated in order to pass, especially for Purple States. Is a Moderate Democrat filling the seat better than a Republican? Because I guarantee you that if a Progressive ran against Mike Rogers last year, Mike Rogers would be one of our two senators right now.

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u/GingerMcBeardface 20d ago

Is there a progressive/left leaning Dem that isn't anti 2a?

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u/imelda_barkos Detroit 20d ago

🙋

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u/Least_Key1594 Madison Heights 20d ago

Go far enough left, you get your guns back

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u/CallingOutCucks 19d ago

No, the inner circle does. Then they murder you with them. Don’t ever trust a leftist with the power to kill.

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u/kwisen 19d ago

Is it anti 2a if the position is we need enough gun control to stop school shootings?

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u/GingerMcBeardface 19d ago

Universal background checks and safe storage sure.

When are we going to hold parents accountable as well?

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u/kwisen 18d ago

Those sound great. Only universal background checks are proactive though. Holding parents accountable and enforcing safe storage are post-tragedy. I'm of the mind that UBC alone isn't sufficient to stop school shootings.

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u/Tank3875 20d ago

More likely to find a leftist Dem that's pro gun than a centrist one, tbh.

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u/GingerMcBeardface 20d ago

I meant politician running, if that's true here, sweet.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

Me

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u/rudematthew 20d ago

We're going to need to revisit the First Amendment to outlaw hate speech and misinformation.

Yikes, the right wing "free speech" people are often full of shit but I will not vote for someone advocating for this.

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u/WhenLifeGivesYouLulu 20d ago

I’m going to run.

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u/Apprehensive-Fruit-1 Up North 20d ago

What’s your policies?

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

I'll run. My policies are workers rights over business rights, universal childcare, universal health care, more trains, and dismantling the GOP and throwing them all in prison

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u/Apprehensive-Fruit-1 Up North 19d ago

I liked those until you mentioned dismantling a political party and throwing them in prison. That’s unconstitutional

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u/FiveUpsideDown 20d ago

You can still ask your state Democratic Party to censure Peters. It’s not much but it’s better than having no consequences for him becoming Blue MAGA. The Oklahoma GOP censured Sen. Langford for working with Democrats. No reason Michigan Democratic Party can’t do the same.

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u/week52 20d ago

A few folks are saying we need a moderate and I strongly disagree. I think our working class history makes us the perfect place for a Green New Deal type progressive that runs on creating jobs, strengthening worker rights, and protecting our lakes/nature.

The timidness of moderate democrats are why so many people are upset. They don’t really stand for anything.

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u/BrekkenTurrin 20d ago

This is the correct take imo

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u/andy313 20d ago

Absolutely this.

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u/CallingOutCucks 19d ago

Government doesn’t create jobs.

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u/week52 19d ago

Their policies do, obviously.

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u/formerly_gruntled 20d ago

Any homeless person on the street of Detroit would be a vast improvement.

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u/siberianmi Kalamazoo 20d ago

An actual hard left progressive will not win the race here. Slotkin as much as she’s already generated dislike won an election against a top of the ticket headwind.

Put a progressive in her place and you’d right now have a Republican Senator who would listen even less.

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u/Least_Key1594 Madison Heights 20d ago

So don't ride the rising tide of being against MAGA at all, just replace the seat with Peters2.0?

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u/CallingOutCucks 19d ago

You alienated the entire country. You get to reap what you’ve sown.

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u/Least_Key1594 Madison Heights 19d ago

Go scroll more porn bro.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

Barely won

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u/Nearby_Sense_2247 20d ago

What about Shawn Fain?

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u/1900grs 20d ago

Now there's an outside the box choice. I don't know if he'd do it. He's been prepping for 2028 UAW contract negotiations already.

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u/Nearby_Sense_2247 20d ago

I'm definitely looking for an outside-the-box choice: A worker-versus-billionaire sort of contest. Someone who can fire up a crowd.

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u/makavellithedon616 19d ago

He's from Indiana

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u/Nearby_Sense_2247 19d ago

Damnit! Well, he needs to move, then. 🚚

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u/BlahCentipede007 20d ago

Me

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u/BlahCentipede007 20d ago

I’m not a true leftist but I’ll take a look

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u/junpei Age: > 10 Years 20d ago

No true Scotsmen!

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u/extra-texture 20d ago

I saw an interview with a state senator getting the sort of will it be you questions

I will say if peter taps a successor, I will donate to and vote for anybody who opposes

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u/marque1434 20d ago

Dana Nessel is brilliant and well spoken. She would represent Michigan well and fights for what is right.

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u/messypaper 20d ago

I think you'll be hard-pressed to win with a progressive/leftist candidate. Michigan is far from a blue-no-matter-who environment, and a lot of progressive positions aren't as popular in the state as left-leaning people think. There's a reason Peters and Slotkin ran and won. Consider also the MIGOP, running far-right candidates as opposed to moderate Republicans, and their string of Ls over the last 4-8 years. Michigan is, seemingly, a state wherein moderate politics is the name of the game.

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u/Kagekitsune22 20d ago

I disagree, especially with how much the Democratic Party, including Slotkin and Peters have shown time and time again that they won’t make any strong showing against the GOP. If there’s any time to find a leftist and throw in support, it’s now. We cannot afford another Slotkin, where it’s all “well let’s work together!” Working together is what’s getting us all these budgets cuts and horrific cultural change. Personally I’m looking at Abdul El-Sayed, he’s been endorsed by Bernie, is all in for universal healthcare and renewable energy.

It’s not fun to do, but we can’t just shrug and say “ah well, we’ll always be purple.” We have to take steps to change minds and get people engaged with politics. Because, you know. People might not like politics, but politics likes people.

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u/messypaper 20d ago

Hey, I hope you're right. I just think you underestimate how conservative a significant percentage of the population is. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

I think it would be more informative to look at how the state votes on ballot initiatives

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u/embles94 20d ago

That’s exactly why I made this post. Now’s the time to start supporting a good candidate and really start a grass roots campaign behind them.

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u/AquaSnow24 20d ago

McMorrow seems like the best fit. Young, progressive ish, but electable.

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u/codygoug Age: > 10 Years 20d ago

You're not even responding to the argument. You're making an argument about what type of politician should win. They're talking about what kind of politician CAN win. I don't see any evidence to suggest a candidate further to the left would be successful. Elissa Slotkin just won a senate seat in a state where her party lost the presidential race. Do you have any idea how difficult that is?

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u/editthis7 Age: > 10 Years 20d ago

I'm sorry but a true progressive doesn't really stand a chance in a state-wide race. This state has been a toss up for a decade. You need another center left candidate like Slotkin.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

Lol, can we get one that didn't vote for laken reiley

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u/Fun_Kaleidoscope2147 20d ago

Been calling and emailing peters, complete no show and of course he has his future to consider when casting his vote.

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u/am312 20d ago

I've been shaming him all over the Internet. I've never liked him, but this crossed the line. His legacy is now that of a coward and a traitor to his constituents.

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u/MrPi48867 20d ago

Michigan is more a moderate state than a leftist one. If the polling posted lately means anything, it shows pushing further left is not the answer.

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u/Chirotera 20d ago

Voting Republicans dressed in blue isn't the answer either. We're fucked until people realize progressive candidates are for them.

Personally if there's not a progressive on the ballot I'm straight up staying home. Why vote for a Democrat that's going to uphold a Republican agenda again and again?

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u/themightywurm Downriver 19d ago

someone w progressive politics who won’t fuck us for no reason

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u/Oneofbernie_s-bros 19d ago

Abdul El-Sayed is probably going to run and be the most left leaning person in the race.

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u/WickedWarlock333 19d ago

ILL do it

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u/MonkeyShack81 17d ago

We can recall slotkin. And someone should start the process on Peters now. No reason to let him stay.

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u/Sparty_75 20d ago

Big Gretch

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u/mofukkinbreadcrumbz 20d ago

She’s running for President in ‘28. She’d crush a Senate race, though.

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u/wwujtefs 20d ago

She's more center left, but I agree that she could win.

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u/gb187 20d ago

As a conservative, I pray that a progressive runs, they will lose huge.

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u/Hoz999 20d ago

You should run James again. A third embarrassment would be historical.

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u/Nan_Mich 18d ago

He is in his second term as my congressman, so those wins kind of ruin your embarrassing scenario. I would love to replace him, though. Dems keep running a very ancient Marlinga against him.

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u/Tank3875 20d ago

Remember to call or e-mail Gary's office today and remind him to resign immediately.

Or if that's a bridge too far for you, call or e-mail him and Senator Slotkin to support the Senate Democratic leadership being replaced in their entirety. Schumer, Durbin, Gillibrand. They all gotta go.

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u/elledouble-u 20d ago

IMO Peters is becoming a Republican. We can't count on him to back us up anymore. I wonder how much they are paying him.

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u/Least_Key1594 Madison Heights 20d ago

I don't think any of these centrists are being paid to side with the GOP. They are just ideologically aligned.

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u/andy313 20d ago

Just wait until he announces what he’ll be doing in retirement and it’s all make sense

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u/1900grs 20d ago

I don't know if we'll have to wait that long. I'm waiting for his next financial disclosure to see his most recent stock trades.

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u/stinktopus 20d ago

Guys we literally just managed to get Slotkin into the senate in the same election that Donald Trump won the state. We are very lucky to still have two Dem senators in Michigan can we please stop fantasizing about launching Slotkin into the sun?

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u/Bawbawian 20d ago

actual progressives don't vote in the primary.

I would love it if they did. But I ain't going to hold my breath.

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u/EvergreenHulk 20d ago

Bernie won the Michigan primary. I would disagree with your claim.

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u/Hacker-Dave 20d ago

Michigan isn't a dark blue state so hoping for a hardcore leftist is a stretch.

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u/-mud 20d ago

Why would you want a progressive?

Do you want to lose to the Republicans? Because nominating a progressive is the best way to do it

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u/Mediocre-Dog-4457 20d ago

What's wrong with Slokin ? She voted against Trump and Schumer... she was also just elected...

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 20d ago

Well, lets start with the fact that she waxed nostalgic for Ronald Regan during a senate speech and work from there.

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u/Pink_pony4710 20d ago

She confirmed a bunch of Trump’s loser cabinet.

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u/Mediocre-Dog-4457 20d ago

So did a lot of other Democrats... picture if Mike Rogers won...

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

They are on my shit list too

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u/ITHETRUESTREPAIRMAN 20d ago

At a certain point, you kind of have to. Some picks were clearly worth fighting more, but the President is entitled to having a cabinet.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

They didn't need her vote, she didn't have to vote for any of them

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u/kwisen 20d ago

The jury is out on Slotkin. It seems clear she isn't the type to put her neck out there though.

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u/-Rush2112 20d ago

Do you know what happens if they didn’t pass the spending bill?

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u/throwaway2938472321 20d ago

Republicans do massive cuts and blame democrats. Everyone blames democrats, even democrats.

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u/Djentyman28 20d ago

I don’t think a progressive will win a US senate seat in my opinion but I really think Nessel would be a great replacement. She’s hard nosed and won’t back down from a good fight

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u/Fireflash2742 20d ago

Maybe somebody who will not vote in lock-step with the GQP?

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u/odishy 20d ago

Just keep in mind if you lose the November election, you're replacing Peters with a Republican regardless of who wins the primary.

Not saying a liberal cannot win, I think a candidate like Bernie would win a statewide race in Michigan. But if you cannot be competitive in suburban and rural districts, you will lose a statewide race in Michigan.

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u/messypaper 20d ago

100%

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u/Banesmuffledvoice 20d ago

Whitmer or Buttigieg would have been the likely candidates to take that seat but both seemingly have removed themselves from the equation. So unsure. It has to be a moderate democrat; Michigan is a swing state now.

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u/chiritarisu 20d ago

Peters and Slotkin are “moderates” and look what we’re getting with that.

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u/Banesmuffledvoice 20d ago

Yea. Winning candidates.

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u/chiritarisu 20d ago

And largely capitulating to an increasingly authoritarian party. But y’know, “winning.”

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u/messypaper 20d ago

Run through his voting record. To say Peters is capitulating is dishonest. I disagree with the budget vote, but generally his record is fair and represents what he ran on.

Better to have a moderate democrat who can be politically effective than a MAGA psycho.

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u/Banesmuffledvoice 20d ago

And they’re in their seats. Unlike progressive candidates that run in Michigan.

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u/1900grs 20d ago

This. Majorities matter more than a principled loss.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

Majorites only matter if you actually do something with it

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u/belowtheunder 20d ago

I disagree. We have enough “moderate democrats”, give me a lefty!

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 20d ago

then tell these leftists to show up and vote

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u/Reasonable-Fan5265 20d ago

I would like the seat to stay democrat controlled.

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u/Careless-Cake-9360 19d ago

Why, they aren't using it for anything good.

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u/SnooGoats4320 20d ago

Fuck the moderate bullshit. We are always too scared to swing for the fences who the GOP does whatever they want.

Fuck. That.

Give me a progressive fighting for things that make our lives better, and I bet it will win votes. They need to cut throw like Bernie does, give it to people plain and honest, don’t do political speech bullshit and they should be fine

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u/Banesmuffledvoice 20d ago

Okay. Run that candidate and when they get wrecked by Mike rogers in the general, don’t throw a fit that the DNC didn’t back the dem candidate.

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u/hermitriff1049 20d ago

The thing I'm seeing an issue with is all the top or would be top pics at least at first glance are all just going after the Governor position

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u/mholtz16 19d ago

Peters left so Whitmer can run (and win) in 2026. Then try to pull off an Obama and run for president in 2028 as a first term senator. Those who don’t know this haven’t been paying attention to democratic politics for the last 30 years.

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u/embles94 19d ago

I’d be ok with whitmer. Even tho she’s not perfect, having her as governor has put me at ease these past years.

Idk if she could pull off a presidential win tho. frump doesn’t like her and his acolytes will follow his word like gospel, even after everything.

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u/powerstreamtv 19d ago

Justin Amash would be my first choice, John James would be my second choice.

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