I find it astounding that the best thing this ‘elite’ earner’s family can point to is ‘he loved his kids.’ I should fucking hope so. So…about those millions he scalped from HC premiums…any charity work, Brian? Start an animal rescue? Anything? Just ‘loved his kids?’ Get the fuck outta here.
Even animals are capable of loving their friends and family, we need to remind people that the standard for human goodness sits higher than doing the bare minimum.
He did that because he was afraid of his dog being captured by the Russians because Germany was losing. He didn’t want barbaric experiments done on the dog. It was more of a mercy killing. He didn’t just kill his dog for shits and giggles. Think what you want of him, but he didn’t just kill his dog for no reason.
I don’t know anything about this story. But let’s be logical if possible, do you genuinely think someone running an organization that was committing mass murder would’ve sent the leader into a last stand situation with a pill or anything similar that hadn’t been tested? There’s no way his personal dog was the first thing to be given this to “see if it worked”. He could’ve given it to the dog first sure out of his family, but why would he use his own dog as a test subject?
Yes thank you!!! It’s so silly. If people actually think about it logically it makes a lot of sense. He knew that the Russians were doing really horrible experiments at the time on people and animals. He knew that if the Russians captured Hitler’s prized dog that Blondi would probably be tortured even more inhumanely than an average dog. Sort of like a “trophy” for the Russians to torture. That’s why he mercy killed Blondi first, then himself.
He did it out of mercy. Apparently his own staff said he was more distraught over the death of his dog than Eva Braun’s death. He was a bad man, but he was a huge animal lover.
Why would he test it on his dog? Hitler was a known dog lover. Be logical here. That’s like saying scientists use their own family members first to test to see if a new pharmaceutical drug works. If you actually look into the logical reasoning behind things, instead of listening to emotional people, then you will learn a lot.
And supposedly the children he was around regularly all considered him a warm caring uncle figure. People can do terrible things and be loving to those around them. It doesn’t excuse the terrible things they do though.
And we will happily live next door and associate with people enabling these industries. “I’m just doing my job”. “I’m just providing for my family” the family you chose to bring into this world…
What CEO you living next door too?
And yeah a lot of us are doing exactly that.
I know i do. Whatcha you advocating for here? You want to stomp Bob because he is a welder on a pipeline so he can send his daughter to college? You pop Mary Sue because she works for fucking Home health so she can keep a roof over her families heads??
What?? To much of a coward to go after the real people in charge you want to shit on your neighbour's instead?
Oh and yeah that's what you do when you have a family.
Of course not. I haven’t bothered to articulate enough because it’s Reddit and ultimately my words don’t really matter. I’m not talking about people who provide services for the good of others. Ie. those you’ve mentioned. I’m talking about insurance execs, marketing execs etc. every circumstance/role/profession is unique but middle management upwards has an impact, I’ve witnessed myself
If you put this POS and Hitler in a room and gave almost anyone in America a gun with 1 bullet, most would pick Brian, because he is responsible for more suffering and death. (Counting civilians only - Soldiers dying in battle not included... But maybe included? I didn't r/theydidthemath on this douchebag.)
Also, If you gave me 2 bullets, and Brian and Hitler and Bin Laden were in the room, I'd shoot Brian twice.
Kind of a weak equivalency since all cows are innocent by default, due to not being able to comprehend the nature of choice and consequence, but the spirit is there and I respect it
That’s bullshit. I watched cow get mad and wreck a 4-wheeler that was being used to herd her and her fellows, and as soon as the guy stopped moving she stopped and ran away. I’d say cows have more sympathy and understanding about causing pain than a ceo with a bag full of fresh corpse money.
(The ranch hand lived btw. He was working for my shitty neighbor, a multimillionaire who won’t fix his fences and his cows keep getting out and blames other people when we won’t herd his cattle for him. Like I have my own life fucker and I don’t work for free. The wealthy are fucked in the head is all I have to say. The more money they have the less humanity exists behind their eyes.)
Animals screw each other over all the time for less. Nature is beautiful, but far from noble. Both selfish people and animals have something in common: they will do anything to maximize their own chances of survival, and will claw their way to the top of the pile, leaving a trail of bodies behind them to achieve it.
People like that don't understand mutual symbiosis as an equally valid survival mechanism, and act like predators accordingly.
I can choose not to eat it, and I'll be fine. Really.
But everyone's circunstances are unique, and what would be seen as ethical and "correct" in your moment in life and your part of the world, is what others may find as absolute bolloks. I know this because life.
Tell those families in Sudan (26 million people facing acute hunger) or Gaza (maybe you would be more aware of this one, right) that feeding their kids mass produced meat is unethical to see what they think.
You can bet your ass I would never do that because ethics means jackshit when your kids are hungry.
Native people have been eating meat for thousands of years and doing so in an ethical, sustainable manner that respects the earth and honors the animal's sacrifice. Factory farming is where most of the horrors are. You can kill an animal humanely, painlessly, and respectfully for sustainance, the aristocracy simply chooses not to in our modern society because they're so hyperfixated on making money.
Someone told me a long time ago. The reason people like master chief so much, is because you can't see his face. Everyone sees a little bit of themselves, in him.
Every day this guy is free, this world becomes exponentially dangerous for the rich.
Insurance works as an algorithm which (especially Medicare and Medicaid) will try the cheapest and least invasive therapies first. Children aren't just being outright denied medical care and then dying. This is some sensationalist argument to justify a shooting.
I know that was sarcastic, but this isn't a "poor person" problem. It's a middle class problem. Poor people get Medicaid and great health care. No cost to them. Insurance denials are bleeding out the Middle Class.
Do you really think rich people see a difference between "the poors" and the middle class? Because they do not. They simply do not care about anyone who isn't rich enough to pay for whatever they want all the time.
True! And then Medicare and medicaid get defrauded so middle class tax dollars are robbed while they sicken and die. Rick Scott's political career after perpetrating such fraud - he's a fucking senator right now - is just symbolic of how easily moneyed interests have tied people up in knots.
Nah, it’s a class problem. Instead of talking about whether the person that’s struggling even more than you financially is included in the struggling caused by the 1% or not is just ridiculous when our efforts would be better working together against the shared enemy of all the people: the US oligarchs.
Just chiming in to say that the middle class/poor class distinction is a myth perpetuated by the ownership class in order to give the majority a group to look down on other than the wealthy.
There is a worker class (actively trades their time for income) and an owner class (passively takes a cut of the workers' output for income).
I agree, but I am looking at this from an "insurance" perspective. When I was pregnant with my first, I qualified for "pregnancy Medicaid" because I wasn't working at the time. 100% of my pregnancy expenses were covered, no cost to me. And because I had Pregnancy Medicaid, my child got 1 year of Medicaid. This was regardless of whether I found a job again. I did and I cannot stress enough how less stressed I was during that pregnancy knowing 100% of mine and my baby's costs were covered. I have had my second and had insurance. I came out of that owing over 6,000 after insurance (which isn't much compared to others). My baby had to have three surgeries within his first year (he is good now). I am being crippled by Medical debt. If I were lower income, this wouldn't be an issue. I would have qualified for Medicaid. Honestly, I HATE the American insurance system and I do believe Americans deserve better. Honestly, I haven't lost any sleep over the CEOs death. I am surprised in reading horror stories of people's family members dying that this hasn't happened sooner.
You would think so, but no. For years, my employer has been a small business and they are not required to offer health insurance. I wish they would, because group plans are so much cheaper than the marketplace. I compared one my accounting client offered their employees. 400 a month compared to a comparable marketplace plan that costs 1200. Those marketplace plans are outrageous. I'm covered by my husband's workplace, luckily.
Yes, but there is a difference between poor, but has Medicaid to cover 100% of medical needs and poor due to the staggering cost of insurance, copays, etc. They are truly different. I have been on both ends of the Spectrum.
Which kids? Or are you just making some story up to justify a shooting? I don't think he was a good person but this is not how things should be handled in our country. Nobody here is ever making examples of how Medicare and Medicaid deny the hell out of everything. It would not go well for the universdal healthcare argument.
This guy has denied zero claims in his life. He's a CPA accountant that became CEO directly from Price Waterhouse Coopers. The internet is full of sickos.
His company implemented an AI that falsely denied 90% of claims under his stewardship. He didn't deny any claims personally, but he certainly fostered a system that would.
Some people don't have the option to not use the product if that's what they get though their job, and good luck suing one of the largest health insurance companies in the US. They'll pay a minimal fine/settlement and still end up making money hand over fist while continuing their bad behavior
People are actively dying by the thousands due to policies like the ones he implemented , got what he deserved.
Hard to go after these guys when what they're doing isn't explicitly illegal, and factoring in the insane amount of lobbying they do there isn't a snowballs chance in hell of anything happening. Market pressure? They're the largest health insurance company in the world, even if they lost HALF of their subscribers they'd still be the largest.
In the event that the amount of deaths due to denied claims are uniform, 10 thousand people die every year from this company alone. This isn't even accounting for all the people who have low to zero quality of life from the same treatment. Sorry, but if you're responsible for policies that result in this amount of human suffering for the purpose of profit, killing you is morally correct.
Hitler personally poured zero ounces of Zyklon into a single prison chamber. He was a spy for the German government that just got mixed up in the Notsee Party when they made him their leader. No, the internet is full of people sick of being told they should just accept whatever scraps the multimillionaire and billionaire CEOs decide we can have. We’re hungry, and angry, and sick, and tired, and I’m personally down to enjoy watching more of these globalist, elitist, aristocratic pieces of shit being knocked off of their pedestals
The AI that denied over 90% of claims was made and instituted during his tenure as the CEO moron. And just like the Germans that claimed “they didn’t know anything was happening even though all the Jews disappeared”, are you going to sit here and tell me that they didn’t notice their paid out claim expenses dropped over 90% out of nowhere, or the subsequent substantive increase in their profit margins that just appeared from thin air? Thank you for proving my point you fucking moron.
Killing a man because he's CEO of an insurance company sucks. If you have such strong feelings about a company, don't buy their product. But killing an accountant with a young family is a heinous way to protest.
Your outfit looks a little like the Adjuster’s. Coincidence or on purpose ? I’m smiling because earlier I was trying to see if Reddit has options to do that.
Honestly I created this account using this outfit. I had a previous account that also used it for 6 years but decided to start over and clean out my feed after the election. It's just the free-est outfit I liked.
I think its good to do occasionally. I had the same feeling about my previous account. I also ditched Facebook and restarted my Instagram to purge superfluous follows. It feels good.
They were generous enough to fund the chemotherapy smh my head people these days you give them your pinky and they take your arm shaking my smh we live in a society
I think it's really interesting that they haven't used any of their vast fortune to put up a reward for information. If someone killed my dad and I had millions at my disposal, you'd better believe I'd be offering up some of that cash for valid info.
They might have. There is a police bounty for any info on the guy and it's pretty high. Higher than normal for NYPD and apparently family can add to the reward, at least according to one Redditor that clarified that a bit
Holy fuck. The other guy whose comment explained it to me said it was 10k. When did it reach 60k?
As for that not being a lot maybe it's cause they need to be ready to give multiple rewards if several people come forth with info?
Or maybe they don't want to spend too much and waste it. 60k is a lot and most people who'd talk for money would jump for that much. If someone hasn't come out for that then they probably won't come out for a bit more. And considering how qualified and eager to work his family must be (not very much) then they'll be trying to stretch that money as much as possible since they won't be getting his paycheck and bonuses anymore. And it ain't cheap being a rich and fabulous widow
Yes, a poor kid crying over the loss of a sick parent is the natural order of things in the US. A rich kid crying because a vigilante gunned down his CEO dad is a perversion of the natural order. That’s why people is shocked that no one cares and some are even celebrating. This isn’t how this is supposed to go.
I’m sure it made them terribly sad 😔 >! 🧙🪦☠️DING DONG, THE WITCH IS DEAD! WHICH WITCH? THE WICKED OLD WITCH. DING DONG, THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD! ☠️🥳🎉!<
I wonder what the kids of the thousands of Americans think knowing their parents died preventable deaths because the insurance actually didn’t cover life threatening diseases on days of the week that end in “day”.
you don't have to wonder at all. Just read any comment section on the internet in regards to this dudes death. It don't even matter if you go to left wing news or right wing. It's the same type of comments over and over.
Yep. This was wife number three. And she had filed for divorce.
Speaking as someone who spent her life in banking and investments, it's unusual for a CEO in these businesses to have one divorce, much less three. The reason is that there's typically a shareholder fear that someone with exes is open to personal financial problems who can be exploited.
This guy got where he was by ruthless pathology, not by good management of people and assets.
Not defending this guy at all but I feel like that's a false equivalency. Like you can love your kids without staying in a relationship that's not good for you anymore.
Like congratulations you did the absolute bare minimum for being a parent. What else, like in my opinion if you have that level of disposable income sure you could spare a thought to any number of social issues or failing that improve the community you live in. Like I wouldn't advocate for someone to get gunned down but honestly why do they think any of the general masses will care for someone who has only ever taken from them?
So were George Floyd and Eric Garner, but these people didn't care about that when they cheered the police for "taking criminals off the streets". I guess it just really proves that some people don't consider white-collar crimes to be actual crimes.
I mean if we look at some other billionaires they clearly have no relationship with most or all of their kids. They praise him for doing the bare minimum because other CEOs won’t even do that lol. Also until they have evidence that he did love them I’m denying their claim
If he really loved his kids he wouldn't have take the job he did, the job he in all likelihood didn't need for his family to survive and live comfortably, which carried an elevated risk of being shot in the back on a sidewalk and nobody giving a shit. He'd still be alive if he loved his children more than he loved money and fucking over other people.
Loving your kids is the bare fucking minimum. Some abominations of the human soul manage to miss that bar too, but that doesn't mean a monster isn't a monster.
I find it astounding that the best thing this ‘elite’ earner’s family can point to is ‘he loved his kids.’
His wife said more than that. She wrote:
Brian was an incredibly loving, generous, talented man who truly lived life to the fullest and touched so many lives.
"Generous?!" She said fucking generous??? That's just objectively false, and easily proved by everybody who had already posted the records available from the company he was leading.
He was the exact opposite of generous, as evidenced by the way he "touched so many lives." Specifically, all the people he allowed to die from insurance denials, or live their lives in unnecessary pain and suffering because they weren't approved for a wheel chair, or treatment, etc.
"He was a good person. Not only did he love his son, he also rarely beat his divorced wife. It is also worth mentioning that he didn't spill any crude oil into the sea. He had nothing to do with the oil industry, but we think it is worth mentioning nonetheless. Another one of his achievements is the fact that we are yet to find any murdered prostitutes in his vast collection of real estates. Either he didn't murder any, or he hid them very well. Both of which are accomplishment worth praising. What else? We think he might have had an okay relationship with his pet goldfish. It died of starvation, but who can say what the real cause of death was? Fish are very fragile creatures and we are sure that two and a half weeks was about the life expectancy of a gold fish anyways. Also the gold fish was behind on its insurence policy payments and food was deemed unessential and its coverage was denied.
So you see, he was an objectively good father, occasional wife beater and surrogate father of a late goldfish who didn't poison our environment with oil."
This is like the opposite of “nice guy? I don’t give a shit. Good father? Fuck you, go home and play with your kids. You wanna work here, close” but it has the exact same energy
The bar is so low for the upper class. Loving your kids should be a given! Wonder how much time he’s actually spent with them or how many times he took them to the doctor or took care of them when they were sick or sad.
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I find it astounding that the best thing this ‘elite’ earner’s family can point to is ‘he loved his kids.’ I should fucking hope so. So…about those millions he scalped from HC premiums…any charity work, Brian? Start an animal rescue? Anything? Just ‘loved his kids?’ Get the fuck outta here.