r/MurderedByWords Jan 03 '25

Murder HOW THE TURNS HAVE TABLED. Trumper (red) gets "triggered" and blindly defends Ashli Babbit.

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u/YeahIGotNuthin Jan 03 '25

The New Orleans New Years Eve mass murderer who drove a truck through the crowd on Bourbon Street was a veteran.

Las Vegas suicide bomber was ACTIVE DUTY.

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u/DaFlyingMagician Jan 03 '25

I'm starting to notice a trend here

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u/LadyVimes Jan 03 '25

It’s already hard enough to get MH treatment with the VA because resources are limited. Perfect time to do cuts, right? 🙄

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u/Nebuli2 Jan 03 '25

Yeah it's almost like we have a mental health crisis that's compounded with horrible treatment of veterans. But hey, more guns is a good solution, right?

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u/DaFlyingMagician Jan 03 '25

I'm worried it's only a matter of time before a few hundred pounds of C4 goes missing.

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u/thachumguzzla Jan 03 '25

You can clearly kill just as many people with a truck, so by your logic less trucks as well as guns is the solution

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u/Nebuli2 Jan 03 '25

A few things:

  1. We totally should have way fewer big trucks. Vehicles, especially in the US, have gotten dangerously large, and absurdly inefficient. We really should be driving smaller vehicles, especially if we claim to care about the cost of fuel.

  2. Your claim here isn't even true. If it were, we'd actually see a comparable number of truck mass killings as we see mass shootings, but we don't.

All in all, this was a really weak gotcha attempt. Please try harder next time.

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u/thachumguzzla Jan 04 '25

There have been more lately, maybe psychos just prefer guns because of the terror and movie style destruction they’ve envisioned. Either way the point is we have a mental health crisis in america and taking away anything that’s dangerous doesn’t solve that problem one bit.

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u/MissLilianae Jan 04 '25

I can't find the source for it, but there's a counter-point against the people who claim that taking away guns would solve all the issues we're facing:

Look at any of the European nations that have strict gun laws and prevent most of the general populace from owning/carrying.

Stabbings are through the roof compared to the US.

Now, is a knife-wielder easier to disarm and take down than a gunman? Yes. But that doesn't stop people from stabbing each other.

We'd be replacing school shootings with school stabbings, and depending on how they go about it that could be worse because, unlike a gunshot that would echo through the halls, a quick knife to the gut from behind with a hand over their mouth to muffle any noises means no one hears it happen and could be hours before the body's discovered. Meanwhile, the stabber gets to go with their day/rampage with no one the wiser.

TL;DR If you take away one option, people will just default to another.

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u/Nebuli2 Jan 04 '25 edited Jan 04 '25

Stabbings there result in way fewer killings, though. Knives are significantly less deadly than guns.

Not only that, the US has more stabbing deaths per capita than most European countries even with guns as a deadlier option (source).

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u/zeiche Jan 03 '25

recently it seems like most of the mayhem is coming from not necessarily veterans but republicans.

must be conservatism and christian values at work here.

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u/PricklePete Jan 03 '25

Maybe they know something is coming...

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u/ellenkates Jan 03 '25

Remember the Ft Hood shooting?

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u/YeahIGotNuthin Jan 03 '25 edited Jan 03 '25

I've done DOD contract work on a lot of military bases world-wide (mostly Navy, some Marine Corps and some Air Mobility Command, only a couple of Army bases) and yeah, I remember that. And the Washington Navy Yard shooting; a work friend was doing contract work there at the time but wasn't on site that day.

https://www.moody.af.mil/Home/Active-Shooter/ I've been to half of those for work.

Say... maybe I'M the pr.. no, that ain't it.

But it sure as shit isn't "bad guys coming in over the border!!1!!Q!" the way some (ahem) people would have you believe.

Hell, even most of the "people here illegally" aren't coming across the border, they're coming in on airplanes, legally, with proper visas, and then they are just staying after their visas expire. Some of them come on a student visa and then just do stuff that isn't allowed if you're a student (Sissy SpaceX) or they come here on a tourist visa and then do work even though you're not on a work visa (I really don't care though, do u?)

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u/PlatypusAmazing1969 Jan 03 '25

My family friend who died from cancer in October....was a retired veteran.

I feel like politicians on both sides are flaring with conflargated egoes, only thinking about their own thing instead of caring about the lives of veterans and getting them actual fuckin help.

...Y'know?

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u/YeahIGotNuthin Jan 03 '25

One of my best friends is a guy I met right after he returned from Desert Storm, he was a chemical corps recon guy.

He has chronic health problems from the oil fires / mysterious chemical exposure.

He is still active duty National Guard, I think he's a captain now? I've been calling him Captain America to tease him... but his health ain't great, and all his biggest battles now are with the VA.

Another friend of ours asked us both, "who did you vote for?" and even though I know Captain America voted for TFG three times out of three, I told them both "I couldn't possibly vote for TFG, one of my best friends is Army green through-and-through and I could never look him in the eye if I did."

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u/GHouserVO Jan 03 '25

Might want to remind “Captain America” that one of the biggest proponents of veterans isn’t the guy he voted for 3 times, but Bernie Sanders.

Yeah, really.

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u/YeahIGotNuthin Jan 03 '25

I plan to.

I also want to ask him, "so the 'can't we just shoot them? (the protesters) Just shoot them in the legs?' guy is still your guy? and, since you might still get deployed, does that mean you're gonna shoot me? And, are you going to aim for me first, or are you gonna save me for last because we've been friends for 30 years?"

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u/Standby_fire Jan 03 '25

Yes. I am a Camp Lejune Water era veteran. Lots of talk no settlements. “There’s a backlog. Be patient” They want us to die then oh well case closed. Like the few, the proud, the thousands that died for 30 years prior to them admitting they poisoned the men and woman and their families. 7%. Of the population served or are serving. The rest…

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u/Familiar_Mode_7470 Jan 03 '25

The Cyber Truck attack was a veteran too.

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u/YeahIGotNuthin Jan 03 '25

That's the Vegas suicide guy.

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u/Familiar_Mode_7470 Jan 03 '25

Sorry I'm getting them confused lol

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u/MachineShedFred Jan 04 '25

Seems like the most threatening terrorist training organization to the security of the US is the US Army...

(this is sarcasm)