r/MurderedByWords Jan 31 '25

#1 Murder of Week Your response is concerning, Bobby!

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u/baumpop Jan 31 '25

When’s the last time you heard about Holly smoot? That was dumb as fuck too about 100 years ago. 

We’re doing the exact same thing and nobody is bringing it up. Sure they say it’s stupid to tariff but nobody is saying we’ve actually been down those road like 4 times in 250 years 

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u/empire_of_the_moon Jan 31 '25

Do you mean Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act? (1930)

Because Holly Smoot sound like a chick I met on spring break.

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u/Walrus_protector Jan 31 '25

Dave Barry guaranteed I'll never forget Hawley-Smoot. Or Samuel Gompers. Gompers, Gompers, Gompers!

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u/Lookuponthewall Feb 01 '25

I don't know what you did with her, but she was totally messed up on you for like months afterward.

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u/Adorable-Way-274 Feb 01 '25

Holy Smoot, Batman

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u/AdagioHonest7330 Feb 01 '25

lol the educated are speaking

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u/baumpop Jan 31 '25

It’s two different people. Hawley and smoot. We’re both right albeit my spelling is dog shit. Happy Friday! 

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u/empire_of_the_moon Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25

Obviously it’s two different lawmakers who introduced the bill. Jesus don’t they teach anything other than clip of a movie with Ben Stein. Most bills are named after lawmakers.

Edit: Another famous example of this is Sarbox - Sen. Paul Sarbanes (D–MD) and Rep. Michael G. Oxley (R–OH-4), the co-sponsors of the Sarbanes–Oxley Act

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u/baumpop Jan 31 '25

There are almost no modern examples of naming a bill after its sponsors but I understand the historical significance of your point. 

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u/empire_of_the_moon Jan 31 '25

I haven’t thought about it - I guess Dodd-Frank would be the most recent in what 2010?

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u/SumpCrab Jan 31 '25

I think we're talking about different levels of stupid. A failed tariff is not on the same level as an antivax as health secretary. This is like instead of arguing tariffs and taxes, they go back to bartering and abolished the dollar.

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u/DandelionOfDeath Jan 31 '25

This is "let them eat cake" levels of stupid, though.

And these people actually said the things!

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u/baumpop Jan 31 '25

We had an 1890s depression too. Which is why they released treatised native land open into a land run.

When shit hits the fan it’s always right before during and after a free for all. Always. 

Dutch disease. 

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u/Mike_with_Wings Jan 31 '25

Smoot wasn’t president

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u/baumpop Jan 31 '25

That’s a round about straw man to the actual point. Getting carpetbagged into a tariff war is what kicked the whole country off in the first place.

It goes like this in like 50-75 year cycles you have a massive boom of growth either by technology advances or the sudden influx of free labor via slaves or offshoring. Which is the same thing. So about once a century and almost like clockwork there is a massive influx of capital towards something resourceful and that leads to Dutch disease.

So the order of operations is exploit labor for growth to boom economy to exploit to frenzy as growth grinds to a haul to people stealing the bag via tarrifs and consolidating to massive labor uprising and concentration camps as you need 3 things for capitalism to work. 

An exploitable but somehow educated enough to be competent workforce.  Stolen resources and/or labor. A scapegoat for the educated labor to be mad at. 

Regardless of who is in power, a king a pharaoh a warlord a president a pope. 

Only one thing in the history of man that defeated and will always defeat these powerful is knowledge passed to communities. The people have the power united against tyranny. 

Usually the messenger of that is publicly murdered but not in America.

Almost every culture on earth has been the receiving end of these three things by the same lizard fucks for thousands of years. 

America when it was formed after the resurfacing of Greek senate ideas in France was to be the end of all that. The end of the 10,000 years of being under a boot. 

We made the biggest boot in history instead.

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u/Mike_with_Wings Jan 31 '25

I’m just talking about who will be forgotten in years to come, not whose name is on the tariffs.