r/MurderedByWords • u/BethJ2018 • 16h ago
Depends on your definition of “winning” (see second image for murder)
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u/lailaihey 16h ago edited 16h ago
Give me a meaningful share in the company and I’ll gladly go the extra mile. Pay me for a 40h work week and you get 40h of my life per week, not a hard concept to grasp.
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u/StevenMC19 16h ago
Yup. Oh and you need to get your time off approved.
Yeah I'll make sure I make the most of the time I have away from work, thank you.
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u/TheGreatestOutdoorz 16h ago
He was literally only talking about startup founders. As a startup founder, he is 100% right: you make a choice to sacrifice your personal life when you start a company.
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u/GrumpyOik 16h ago
Long, but true story. I used to work in industry in an African country. One of the painters who worked there was exceptional and the company rewarded him with a 30% pay rise. The next week he failed to come in on the Friday. The next week it happened again, and he was called before the managers.
His explanation was that while he was extremely grateful, he now had enough money that he only had to work 4 days a week, and could still afford to live but now he got to spend more time with his family. He got fired - but I thought that maybe he was one of the sanest people I've worked with,
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u/Appropriate_Mess_350 16h ago
Winning an ulcer and a stroke to feed the insatiable greed and egos or our overlords.
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u/LawyerOfBirds 15h ago
Bullshit. It means they have their priorities in order. I’m choosing my family over my job. If my employer doesn’t like that, they can find a new employee. I’ve told them that.
I’m too valuable to them for them to do anything about it. So today when I need to leave early to see my son’s presentation at school, I’ll tell my supervisor I’m out for the day and he’ll say “okay.”
If you’re not allowed a work-life balance, look for a new job.
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u/pizoisoned 15h ago
I mean LinkedIn lunatics is a thing. That site is a cesspool or corporate bootlickers and highly motivated idiots/psychopaths.
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u/grumblesmurf 15h ago
Or, as I put it, the ultimate level of winning would be not having to work at all. So I don't see anything wrong to reduce the working part to a minimum while maximizing the not working part. Ergo, a work-life balance focused on life instead of work.
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u/sanityjanity 16h ago
He and his wife have apparently chosen not to have children, in order to focus on work.
Maybe Vance should talk to him about why people should have more kids.
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u/flinderdude 15h ago
When these people say stuff like this, do the reporters in the room, ask them if this is an attitude that employees paid wages should think? Or is that the mindset of a founder trying to create a company from scratch? Our journalists are obviously terrible, but come on man, follow up on things like this. Get them on recordwith what they actually think. It kind of worked with Elon. We now realize he’s an actual racist Nazi and not just some smart guy who has car companies and rockets.
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u/Arthur__617 15h ago
When did everyone's jobs become their "identity?"
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u/JustGoodSense 7h ago
5,000 years ago, maybe? A while, anyway. There's a reason some people are named Miller, Cooper, Barber or Smith.
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u/Justagirl1918 15h ago
Why work so hard for a company that doesn’t appreciate how much you give or how hard you work. They want you to work longer for less pay and with fewer benefits. Pay increases don’t keep up with inflation or the cost of living. The smart employee goes in, does what is required of them then leaves. Why care for something that doesn’t value you or your time?
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u/asphalt_licker 14h ago
Rich people have a lot of nerve talking about how other people should live and their work ethic when they barely work themselves.
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u/hot_space_pizza 15h ago
If you have kids you only get one chance see them grow up and be a positive influence on them. Spending time with them is irreplaceable. As a dad it's made me so much happier to spend quality time with my son. Dad's generally miss out on so much
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u/mellcrisp 15h ago
And looking like that means you're not committed to being healthy. We can do this too
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u/Low-Astronomer-3440 15h ago
Some would argue that by being a white man in America, you wake up every day winning the lottery.
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u/Appropriate-Food1757 15h ago
I’m actually not committed to “winning” unless I’m playing sorts. At work I prefer to collaborate and help everyone.
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u/rAyNEi_xw 16h ago
I don't get people like this mf! If you're so driven to win, you do you, why do you care about what I do?!? I didn't get a job to die to make someone's dick bigger while I dig myself into an early grave or worse, a receding hairline.
My guy here can win as much as he wants, maybe I'm fine being mediocre...
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u/faultlessdark 16h ago
It's simple; it's a lie the exploitative tell to keep encouraging the ones they exploit to be exploited.
"Keep working hard and one day
I'll be able to afford anotheryou'll be able to afford your own Lamborghini"-1
u/TheGreatestOutdoorz 15h ago
I don’t get people who read an article and are too lazy or stupid to take two seconds to google it and see what he really said. He was talking about startup FOUNDERS. Not employees. Reid Hoffman is literally one of the best advocates for workers rights in silicone valley. He’s one of the good ones. He was talking about starting a tech company, that’s it. So before you get all big mad, maybe you should educate yourself instead of falling for clickbait article titles.
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u/Careless_Owl_7716 15h ago
He's talking about founders and early stage employees. For the latter, you tend to get a stake in the company in return for working your ass off on a gamble. If it pays off, you can retire.
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u/classic_gamer82 16h ago
That boy is clearly enjoying his optimal work-life balance by feeding himself.
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u/MagicDragon212 15h ago
This just encourages a culture of lying. My bosses will just never get to know my actual feelings if this is how every person is expected to feel.
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u/Darkwhippet 15h ago
"work harder and make me more money".
It's good to be aspirational, it's good to work hard and progress. But people need a life, and they need to prioritise family too.
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u/Old-Physics751 14h ago
Yeah well he can fuck off. Obviously American as most of the rest of the world gets shit done while having a much higher amount of days off, pay, and benefits.
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u/zangief137 14h ago
Yeah, I’m not committed to your record profits and yacht when I won’t get scraps from it and can get better elsewhere in real first world countries
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u/42ElectricSundaes 14h ago
I’m not committed to building you a second yacht. I’m committed to living a happy life.
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u/CrudelyAnimated 14h ago
Life is not a thing to be “won”. The existence of a thing called retirement is evidence that people only work to enable their life without work. Creativity without compensation is more like art.
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u/macielightfoot 15h ago edited 15h ago
Funny how it's always the rich dudes whose work is nothing but attending meetings and beating off who say this.
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u/SuspendeesNutz 15h ago
He's big into "winning" is he? Like in a fight?
Well I guess if he wants to fight me that's fine by me. I'm guessing his definitions might be a little more restrictive.
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u/DrMonkeyKing79 14h ago
The appearance of that 3rd chin is a red flag that he should eat more salads.
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u/chemtrooper 14h ago
LinkedIn is irrelevant and no one I know takes it serious. This gentleman’s “observation” is a red flag for a dying corporation…a welcome death, in my opinion. In the end, all these social media business models rely on data mining, which is valuable to marketing and advertisers. Don’t work yourself into an early grave to build someone else’s dreams.
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u/blondeandbuddafull 14h ago
People are waking up to the notion that spending your life and health being corporate slaves for billionaires is not the happy life path it is propagandized to be. Nice try bozo.
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u/XXsforEyes 14h ago
On their deathbed, no one ever said “I wish I had spent more time at the office.”
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u/hdhdhgfyfhfhrb 14h ago
Thanks OP. I had forgotten I had an account with this website but posting this quote reminded me so I could delete it.
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u/FanDry5374 14h ago
You aren't committed to them winning. Employees are all replaceable widgets to the Capitalists.
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u/macaco_gordinho 14h ago
Last time I remember someone being committed to “winning” it was Charlie Sheen. Not sure getting the HIV is winning. The LinkedIn cofounder going on a tour next too? Maybe some tigers blood?
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u/Defender1x 13h ago
People who've never sacrificed LOVE telling the people they exploit that they need to sacrifice.
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u/pudgyhammer 13h ago
Does an entire existence have to be based on the amount of output one can perform? That's the American way.
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u/Guilty-Study765 13h ago
I don’t even need to see the second image. The photo in the first clearly shows me that this fucker isn’t “winning” at life. GTFO. Blech
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u/SoothsayerSurveyor 13h ago
I wanted to put some witty retort but all I can muster is Reid Hoffman can suck his dad’s dong
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u/Political-Bear278 13h ago
People should be committed to what makes them happy. For the vast majority of people, that is not work. For many, if not most, it is a means to an end. The end being having enough money to have the time to do what does make them happy. For the lucky minority who have been able to combine the two (and no matter what anyone tells you, it will always be a minority in a modern techno/industrial/service society) congratulations.
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u/Chefmeatball 13h ago
Said the guy who is in charge of one of the most toxic sites on the internet….and I speak from a Reddit of experience
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u/MamaTalista 13h ago
Not committed to making the billionaires make money he means.
My time is just as valuable as his.
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u/LeMans1950 11h ago
The proper ratio is a minimum of 80% life and 20% work. And that's if you love your job. Any less and you're a tool.
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u/Infinizzle 7h ago
People like that would vote for slavery as well. I'm sure his wife sees him regularly cuz he's not working 12 hours a day.
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u/Phylacteryofcum 5h ago
That dude's coronary health sure ain't winning any prizes. Looks like the human equivalent of a chicken nugget.
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u/Cosmic_Lust_Temple 3h ago
Says those who have no actual life to speak of. This is what happens when we live in a society that rewards those that have nothing better to do than accumulate money.
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u/jalen441 15h ago
He's previously expressed similar sentiments about employees, so while he does specify startup founders in this article, it would be naive to think he doesn't extend this mindset to employees and established businesses.
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u/Immediate-Damage-302 14h ago
Did anyone here read the article? The title seems deceptive. I only took a peek, and it seemed that he was only talking about people who are trying to start their own business, not employees. But, as I said, I didn't read the entire thing.
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u/brainless_bob 14h ago
He was saying this specifically if you are an entrepreneur working on your own start up because you aren't making money yet.
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u/Muted-Collection-256 1h ago
Labor creates wealth. This guy profits from other peoples labor. Parasitic
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u/turndownforwomp 16h ago
They don’t want to pay for the level of commitment they demand from their employees, so they strive to shame us to conform to their wishes instead. I’ll be leaving at the end of the day and taking every minute of my vacation, thanks.