r/NASCAR 1d ago

[Stern] Steve Phelps says NASCAR is keeping close tabs on how the recently announced tariffs by the U.S. could impact auto racing.

https://x.com/A_S12/status/1908250289305440305
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u/greg_jenningz 1d ago

Welp. Time to just turn all the cars into super late models

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

TBF, they’d probably put on a better race at short tracks than the next gen

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u/greg_jenningz 1d ago

Brother, that’s a fact

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

I know, probably road courses as well why were at it

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u/ApocApollo NASCAR 1d ago

Nah, we’d manage to kill someone in the Watkins Glen bus stop with a late model.

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

Maybe not, Hocevar has been up front there most of the time

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u/ApocApollo NASCAR 1d ago

Everything bad that happens is Austin Dillon’s fault unless otherwise stated.

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

I was gonna say Ty Gibbs but ok

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u/ApocApollo NASCAR 1d ago

Oh it can be Gibbs. Or Stenhouse. Or Lajoie. Or Ware. But the Microsoft Excel sheet is programmed to default to Austin Dillon.

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u/ChaseTheFalcon 1d ago

I thought it was programmed to default to Danica still

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u/PiratesBull Chastain 1d ago

100%

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u/PaulRingo64 1d ago

Really went out on a limb with that one did you there?

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u/Lowfuji 1d ago

Executive order that NASCAR can only run Teslas to come soon.

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u/MelodicFondant 1d ago

Breaking news:Nascar fucking dies

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u/CaptainHolt43 15h ago

GENTLEMEN!! START! YOUR! ENGIIINESSSSSS!!!!

(soft humming sounds)

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u/cm2460 1d ago

Buddy they yard sale when they wreck on a 3/8th, imagine 10 of them at once at a super speedway. They’d be picking up parts for a month

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u/cocacola150dr Byron 17h ago

And not just car parts…

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u/TurnLeftRepeat Bobby Allison 1d ago

Next week, hobby stocks. Week after will be the hobby stocks but the Fwds. Following week will be the low level beaters

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u/greg_jenningz 21h ago

This sounds like Top Gear and I’m all for it

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u/speedism Kurt Busch 23h ago

They already are. They sound like them, they accelerate like them, they’re grippy as all hell like them.

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u/greg_jenningz 21h ago

Which car is more fun to watch on the short track though? Next gen has failed there.

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u/eestionreddit 1d ago

Switching brings unneccesary costs. I think we'll see pause on major regulation changes, as well as leniency on older body styles if new ones happen to be introduced.

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u/girlwithaguitar Bubba Wallace 1d ago

Get ready to learn Chinese Daytona Road Course, buddy

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u/Mayor_KG Chase Elliott 1d ago

I looked online and they’re selling tickets for the Mexico road course race now. That’s an encouraging sign.

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u/BabycakesMurphy Ryan Blaney 1d ago

They have been for weeks. But it would not be the first time event tickets are sold and the event doesn’t happen.

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u/Moose135A 1d ago

A few years back, they were selling tickets for the Clash (or whatever it is called now) at Daytona until the day before they announced it would be at the LA Coliseum.

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u/volvanator Kyle Busch 1d ago

Maybe I’m missing forest for the trees, but I don’t think this is in reference to race locations. I think they’re discussing the impact of raw material prices soaring and or multinational companies pulling back sponsorship money, given the current economic climate.

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u/Moppyploppy 1d ago

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

God, Richard looks like he’s had a botched plastic surgery in this picture

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u/ym179 1d ago

To be fair, he looks like that in every picture (and video).

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

Yeah but it’s really noticeable here

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u/AdInternational9879 1d ago

RCR sucks in the cup series and he might go bankrupt after the tariffs

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u/cm2460 1d ago

Mark martin campaigned for him in ‘16

Lost some respect for him

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u/Pure_Picture_1370 18h ago

So did the Elliotts, Newman and Ragan

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u/joe_broke 7h ago

The biggest shock from Newman was his skepticism about the moon landings

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u/Walverine13 13h ago

'16 I give a little grace, 2020 or 2024, you knew what you signed up for.

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u/cherrycitykid 4h ago

He fucked around. Now he's about to find out.

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u/Red_GrandCaravan 1d ago

I wonder if this costs us RAM & Dodge’s rumored return or potentially scares away other OEMs (Honda), hopefully it’s only temporary until we figure things out if it is

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u/AFrenchNASCARFan 1d ago

It could also scare Toyota away...

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u/ConnorK5 1d ago

Toyota is building a 14 BILLION dollar facility in the middle of North Carolina. Combine that with the amount of cars they make in the US. They aren't going anywhere lmao.

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u/athletic_jorts 23h ago

The 2008 recession completely changed NASCAR. If costs go up and income goes down there is no telling how impactful it could be to the sport.

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u/ConnorK5 23h ago

I get that but I don't think what you're saying is a counter point to what I said.

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u/dcwldct Hamlin 9h ago

Honda already has IndyCar and IMSA in their North American market strategy. It’s much easier to scare someone away from expanding than to scare someone away from their only “win on Sunday sell on Monday” a market. Toyota is just nascar in NA.

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u/little238 15h ago

Honda builds their truck in Alabama, with many of the parts built in or near too. So terrifs would effect the raw resources, like all manufacturers.

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u/KitchenBanger 1d ago

Are we winning yet?

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

Have you said thank you yet

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u/ApocApollo NASCAR 1d ago

I can’t find my suit

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u/Yumafrog Ryan Blaney 1d ago

Those poor penguins were wearing suits and they still got tariff'd

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u/EWall100 1d ago edited 1d ago

Just buy American

Edit: I think people missed that I was just getting in on the joke

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u/MkeBucksMarkPope Majeski 19h ago

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u/EWall100 13h ago

There's never been a better usage of a PC Principal gif than this moment

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u/MkeBucksMarkPope Majeski 7h ago

I thought it would be fitting! Why I always respected South Park. Didn’t pull punches for anything, or any side!

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u/harble8 1d ago

Sucks to be Toyota

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u/cajunaggie08 Bowyer 15h ago

The most American made cars out there

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u/Tank_O_Doom Briscoe 1d ago

I only got a Tan suit

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u/ApocApollo NASCAR 1d ago

I bet you like Dijon mustard too, you death panel socialist

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u/icebeancone 1d ago

You better not forget to say thank you

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u/HugeinaMidgetshand Keselowski 1d ago

He is looking at your couch!

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

God, that looks like Andrew Tate

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u/NatalieDeegan NASCAR 1d ago

What color is your Bugatti

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

Happy cake day

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u/Vince_Clortho_Jr 1d ago

Have you EVEN said thank you?

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

Nope, nor will I ever

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u/RyanPainey 1d ago

Not until this is the only car in the field

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

I’m surprised Grady Judd hasn’t bought one yet

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u/WheedMBoise 1d ago

Some of the required NextGen parts will be subject to the tariffs, there's just no way this doesn't increase costs for the teams.

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u/Respect_Cujo 1d ago

1) They’re a business, of course they are keeping close tabs on the situation. This is a non-issue headline.

2) NASCAR and it’s team owners voted for this. What’s the old saying? Make your bed now sleep in it.

No doubt this will hurt auto racing and that really sucks, but it’s hard to feel bad for the organization, owners/drivers, and (let’s be real) the majority of the fanbase.

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u/dmcgrew Bubba Wallace 1d ago

I'll bet almost all NASCAR car owners voted for this. You wanted it. Now you gotta pay for it.

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u/Spagootee Jeff Gordon 1d ago

Kinda ironic considering the previous administration signed an infrastructure bill that helped bring 2 of NASCAR's most historic tracks back to the national level (North Wilkesboro & Rockingham).

Obviously not a "direct" result since the $ allocation was decided through NC's government, but I don't know if either track would've come back without that chain of events, especially Rockingham.

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u/NoonecanknowMiner_24 Reddick 1d ago

Yes, but have considered the previous President didn't make trans people miserable?

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u/Kraze_F35 Earnhardt Sr. 1d ago

Yes he may have ended American hegemony and crashed the stock market but have you considered how owned the libs are?

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u/MkeBucksMarkPope Majeski 19h ago

Always cracks me up that roughly 1 in 4,817 people fits their definition of libs lol. But boy, I tell to h’what. If they hadn’t owned em, I don’t know if we woulda made it.

Like, I just wanna go to work and watch the race on Sunday lol.

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u/BeaverEnjoyer 1d ago

I'd bet the majority of everyone involved in NASCAR at all levels voted for this.

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u/NoonecanknowMiner_24 Reddick 1d ago

Prime example of leopards eating faces.

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u/Kraze_F35 Earnhardt Sr. 1d ago

All I can think of is how all these people flew too close to the sun with their greed. They all wanted to have their cake and eat it too, they thought they could control the monster they helped create and didn’t realize they couldn’t until it was too late. Now we’re all paying for it because these bastards wanted a 15th vacation home.

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u/xelanalpak 1d ago

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u/Creepysphinx729 Larson 22h ago

I need like 100 of these stickers.

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u/PlatinumSarge 21h ago

Get them before they cost 46% more

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

Will we be racing in Mexico? And will dem CHEATIN Yoders continue to add extra horsepower, and use rocket fuel in qualifying

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u/DaleYeah788 JR Motorsports 1d ago

🇨🇦

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u/Zenon-45 Ryan Sieg 1d ago

Canada Strong (I'm unfortunately an Ontarian)

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u/DaleYeah788 JR Motorsports 1d ago

Hi from the Maritimes!

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u/Zenon-45 Ryan Sieg 1d ago

I've always wanted to visit there! There are some great hiking spots, and obviously the coast must be beautiful.

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u/DaleYeah788 JR Motorsports 1d ago

Oh yeah! Make a good road trip and hit up hopewell rocks and pei and over to Halifax!

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u/TheUnknown_General 12h ago

Halifax is on my bucket list of places I want to go to.

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u/PoolhallJunkie247 1d ago

Gotta time it out to stop by Antigonish for the IWK 250.

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u/NinjaFlyingEagle 12h ago

I've been to 2 races there, super fun.

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u/NatalieDeegan NASCAR 1d ago

I’m staying in Dartmouth now…my wife is from here so I married in.

Beautiful place even if I just cracked my windshield because of the roads lol

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u/Zenon-45 Ryan Sieg 1d ago

There's a spot in Newfoundland I've always wanted to visit, called Lewis Hills, it's an amazing backpacking place apparently

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u/DaleYeah788 JR Motorsports 1d ago

Oh yeah. I’m from NL. I‘be never done that trail before but did a lot of them in Gros Morne National Park ! Stunning there as well if you have never been.

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u/Zenon-45 Ryan Sieg 1d ago

To be honest, I've never been out of southern Ontario haha, I really gotta travel around, first place I'm visiting is the maritimes for sure

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u/DaleYeah788 JR Motorsports 1d ago

Nice! The maritimes and Newfoundland would be two separate trips unless you got 3+ weeks of vacation time. Don’t try to group them in. Make two separate trips. Also for going to the west coast of NL I recommend fly into deer lake on Porter airlines.

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u/AHayes31 15h ago

It's cool to know I am not the only Newfoundlander here that posts here regularly

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u/DaleYeah788 JR Motorsports 15h ago

Hayes? Goulds?

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u/AHayes31 7h ago

Close, im a townie, lives in Paradise lol

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u/icebeancone 1d ago

Hi from Ottawa

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u/Zenon-45 Ryan Sieg 1d ago

I gotta visit there sometime, such a historic city

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u/icebeancone 1d ago

Nah. Go somewhere good instead.

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u/Zenon-45 Ryan Sieg 1d ago

Fair haha

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u/Dry-Membership3867 1d ago

Will you please import Doug Ford here. Hell, we’re so desperate for leadership, we’ll take Danielle Smith over Dump

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u/kswervedirt Suárez 1d ago

And taxation is theft!

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u/arca_brakes van Gisbergen 1d ago

So you want to trust corporations to provide all of the services the government currently provides at reasonable costs? And not become privatized monopolies who can charge whatever they want because they know they have captive "customers"?

Hahahahahahaha

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u/SilentSpades24 1d ago

The private sector just wouldn't provide the services at all.

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u/nascarfemboy Allmendinger 1d ago

No it isn’t, take an economics class.

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u/arca_brakes van Gisbergen 1d ago

Take a real economics class

Sadly something that needs to be said these days

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/arca_brakes van Gisbergen 1d ago

I'm agreeing with you, I said that because sadly a lot of people would do a PragerU "class" or something instead of a real economics class that doesn't just reaffirm their existing beliefs.

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u/nascarfemboy Allmendinger 1d ago

My mistake, apologies

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u/arca_brakes van Gisbergen 1d ago

All good, in hindsight I can see how you would have interpreted my comment that way

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u/Connect_Rich8848 1d ago

Where is that Brandon guy when you need him?

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 1d ago

They said "let's go".

He went.

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u/thuckerybuckets 1d ago

I cancelled my Michigan trip. Wondering how many other Canadians will too.

A shame, my kids & I were really looking forward to being back, would have been our 4th year.

Hope this mess gets sorted out so we can return to a NASCAR track.

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u/DirtyHead420 Green-Checkered Flag 1d ago

It'll probably rain anyways..

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u/htom3heb 12h ago

Yup, I cancelled my trip to the Indy 500. Ontario. Heading to Spa to see WEC instead. Easy sell for my wife, lol.

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u/TheArmyOfTennessee 1d ago

Can I ask what specifically made you cancel your trip?

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u/NatalieDeegan NASCAR 1d ago

Having the US with the man in power saying Canada is nasty and the 51st state thing might be a factor.

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u/Turbo_Wheeler Rudd 1d ago

And referring to the Prime Minister as Governor

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u/NatalieDeegan NASCAR 1d ago

He’s been quiet since Carney came in, I think he just really hated Trudeau with a burning passion.

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u/Moose135A 1d ago

Probably because of the way Melania and Ivanka looked at Trudeau…

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u/TheUnknown_General 12h ago

Most Canadians hated Trudeau by the time he left, even if he did do a good job responding to the trade war. His time as the Prime Minister was littered with bad decisions and careless mistakes, and I say this as someone who votes left wing.

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u/afgunxx 17h ago

Happy cake day!

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u/PWJD 1d ago

I can imagine it has something to do with this BuyCanadian thing we got going on and cancelling vacations to the US because of the what old moldy orange man is doing.

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u/SmithPaw88 1d ago

Seems a little silly, especially if one enjoys going to a nascar race, is it really worth robbing one’s self of enjoying that?

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u/BloatedBanana9 Ryan Blaney 1d ago

Considering that multiple tourists now have been detained by ICE and countries keep implementing travel warnings to the US, I certainly can’t blame people for feeling hesitant to visit.

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u/PWJD 1d ago

I mean I’m not here to judge any of fellow Canadians for going where they want, but when you see all these massive tourist destinations in the states that depend on Canadians struggling.

These tariffs suck for us all, and for Canada the best thing we can do right now is keep our money here until this crap is sorted

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u/SmithPaw88 1d ago

Yeah I mean for sure everyone can do whatever they think is best. I just hate to see people robbing themselves the chance of doing something they enjoy

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 1d ago

They're not robbing themselves of anything. They didn't enact stupid tariffs 

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u/SilentSpades24 1d ago

They're being robbed of that enjoyment by the idiot we have in office.

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u/mopooooo 1d ago

What if they enjoy feeding their righteous indignation more than they do watching 200mph stock cars

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 1d ago

Yes.

Some people have principles and stand behind what they believe in. Even when it means they have to make sacrifices.

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u/ConnorK5 1d ago

To be fair that's entirely what this thread thinks is funny about the other side of the coin. Half of America has said they don't give a fuck about the tariffs or their wallets. They are tired of the tomfoolery with the social issues in this country. I guess it isn't as chest pounding when americans do it though.

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u/TheUnknown_General 12h ago

It's not silly at all. I'm Canadian and not going to watch a race in a country that is openly hostile towards my home is a small price to pay.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 1d ago

Would you travel to a country and spend your money there if their elected leader said that your country shouldn't exist and should just be absorbed into his country?

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u/TheArmyOfTennessee 14h ago

Probably not. I just wanted to be sure that's what had done it, but clarification is apparently against the rules here.

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u/TheUnknown_General 12h ago

Clarification isn't against the rules, but the answer to your question was kinda obvious to anyone who hasn't been completely ignoring current events.

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u/TheArmyOfTennessee 12h ago

Except there have been numerous things happening recently with US/Canada relations, INCLUDING the aforementioned comments, but also tariffs and NATO renegotiations.

Perhaps the issue is that I follow current events TOO closely and merely wanted this person's thought process on the "straw that broke the camel's back."

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u/thuckerybuckets 1d ago

Seems like others have summarized my concerns & reasons. ✌🏻

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u/Dont_hate_the_8 1d ago

I feel like this is non news. Of course they are, but what are they gonna do? If the prices go up, they won't change anything about their process.

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u/JBtheExplorer 1d ago

Prices went up for building costs in 2020 and they scrapped an entire track plan. Changes/cuts do happen when they need to.

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u/cocacola150dr Byron 17h ago

Yep, this is probably the official death of the Auto Club reconfiguration.

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u/Madturtl3 1d ago

The independent teams might stop racing until they can afford the single-outsourced parts again. Puts more pressure on the teams, some of which are already suing NASCAR over revenue sharing…

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u/rainking6 1d ago

The biggest issue will be the OEMs. They're about to get significant losses and the Trump administration is putting significant pressure on them to not raise prices. They'll need to cut costs somewhere...

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u/IONTOP Hamlin 1d ago

They'll need to cut costs somewhere...

Nascar has announced TEAM NAMES rather than manufacturers!!!

Are you team "Fjord"? "Chevy Chase"? Or "Toy Yodas"?

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u/Soupedup379 23h ago

Sponsors are going to have to trim their budgets, especially the smaller companies so the lower series teams are probably getting fucked

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u/NatalieDeegan NASCAR 16h ago

Yeah this might bring back start and parks and ride buyers again. Thankfully John Wes Townley is done.

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u/progress10 1d ago

Well the last time it happend bad a bunch of teams merged and folded.

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u/Dont_hate_the_8 1d ago edited 1d ago

Teams have pretty consistently been closing for 10-15 years.

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u/cocacola150dr Byron 17h ago

Not that it was likely to happen anyway but this could be the deciding factor in NASCAR officially scrapping the Auto Club reconfiguration. It was already going to be obscenely expensive but now the materials are going to cost that much more.

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u/ConnorK5 1d ago

I feel like this is non news. Of course they are

"Director of Billion dollar industry in the United States is monitoring a major financial and economic shift, more at 11."

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u/Koshfam0528 Ryan Blaney 1d ago

NASCAR could do the funniest thing right now and convert to EVs.

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u/Enough_Worth8868 1d ago

Oh I’m sure Brad will save the day

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u/Scootydoot12 1d ago

So the tariffs are why we don’t have 900 firebreathing monsters

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u/cocacola150dr Byron 17h ago

Kind of a side note but Lionel announced a 5% increase to price due to the tariffs and that was before the exact amounts were announced, I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being more.

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u/dommmm9 Larson 1d ago

What do they import?

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u/Chenstrap 1d ago edited 17h ago

Ppl are mentioning the parts to make the cars, but it's more complicated then that. Frankly, how much a racecar costs to build is practically meaningless [edit: in this context anyways]. An increase will ofc sting, but that wont kill most teams alone.

What WILL kill teams is sponsors leaving. Whenever the economy crashes businesses immediately begin looking for fat to trim. For many businesses, racing sponsorships will be the first on the chopping block, as that's is where so much of the money comes from, and that will echo through the racing eco system (We saw this when the Tobacco sponsors were banned, and it happened in 2008 also. The top levels of racing managed to find new sponsors and move on. However, they took sponsors that were important to the lower rungs of racing).

And ofc if businesses trim fat, layoffs are on the table too, and when that happens less ppl can afford to go to races meaning less ticket, concessions, and merch sales. Speaking of merch, that could come close to doubling in price.

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u/dommmm9 Larson 1d ago

The economy isn't crasing anywhere close to 2020 so it will be fine

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u/Chenstrap 1d ago

I mean probably not, but the pandemic years are more of a fluke seeing as it was once per century global event. Something like the 08 crash is where we should be looking, and racing was feeling the pain from that for years after that.

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u/dommmm9 Larson 17h ago

Yeah but it's not even close so we good.

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u/RickyBobbyRiley 1d ago

I’m sure a lot of things especially for the teams. Rarely does anything have every part sourced and built for a particular item all gets made in the same country. I’m sure they use a lot of computer chips that are made overseas just to name one.

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u/HurricanesnHendrick 1d ago

Probably the steel that builds the frames. The copper in the wiring. The ECUs. All the aluminum parts.

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u/2005HondaCivic245 1d ago

A lot of raw and manufacturered materials get imported in, which raises costs down the chain until theres no one left to shift the cost onto

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u/flyinganchors Chase Elliott 1d ago

All the next gen cars are spec cars, Chevrolet, Ford and Toyota have several plants spread over the North American continent, as well as China and Europe. Doubt the cars are 100% American built.

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u/DrewCrew62 1d ago

I’d imagine things will get more expensive, Steve. But that’s just a thought.

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u/Comfortable_Rock4877 1d ago

NASCAR made it through the 1973 OPEC oil crisis, the 2008 stock market crash, and the AMA factory racing ban of 1957.

I’m sure this one will be no different.

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u/Respect_Cujo 1d ago

Let’s be real, NASCAR might have “survived” the Great Recession of 2008, but it sure as hell hasn’t recovered.

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u/ClarksonianPause 13h ago

NASCAR was declining before ‘08. The recession just exacerbated the situation.

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u/TheUnknown_General 12h ago

Not really. NASCAR's golden era was 1995-2007.

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u/John_is_Minty 9h ago

Peak viewership was 05. The decline was always going to happen the recession just made it happen faster

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u/ClarksonianPause 5h ago

My point exactly.

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u/atlutdprospects Bell 1d ago

Meanwhile, Nascar is also trying to lock two of its teams out of the sport for not fully agreeing with their charter agreement that's intentionally designed to force the teams to require millions in corporate sponsorship money to survive

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u/MrDingus84 1d ago

Teams will always require millions in corporate sponsorship.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 1d ago

Suddenly teams are gonna see dollar signs when crashes happen...

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u/KentuckyHorsepower 1d ago

As he and all business leaders should be any given day.

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u/Naenia Hamlin 20h ago

Badly. It's going to impact it badly.

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u/LCPhotowerx 1d ago

spoiler alert: not well.