r/NYEXIT • u/Meepmonkey1 • 16d ago
New York needs to suspend all gun laws
Donald Trump is planning on declaring martial law on 4/20. We need to be ready. Also head to the gym and begin learning to ration food.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/insurrection-act-president-trump-20201819.php
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u/Vamproar 16d ago
Seems a bit alarmist, but unless you have very high up contacts, you also can't suspend all gun laws quickly enough for that.
You'll have to work with what you have if you are right.
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16d ago
This wouldn’t happen in Texas🇱🇷
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u/Dannyoldschool2000 16d ago
Good luck with that. It’ll happen in Texas because the majority of your state voted for this clown. Therefore, they’ll just let it be.
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u/cleverpsuedonym 16d ago
Let's play this thought experiment out. He declares martial law.
Let’s walk it forward logically, using a mixture of precedent, power analysis, and historical analogy.
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If Trump invokes the Insurrection Act of 1807, he bypasses governors and deploys military forces domestically under the claim of restoring order. This is rare and controversial—but not impossible. The last major use was in 1992 (LA riots), not for political opponents.
Martial law, legally and practically, is murky. It isn’t a defined “on/off switch” in the Constitution. Declaring it would be mostly symbolic unless the courts or military fall in line—and that’s not guaranteed.
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Hypothetically, if this goes full authoritarian: • First targets: Protest organizers, political activists, leftist NGOs, and “deep state” government critics—especially visible ones. • Next: Journalists, academics, and opposition politicians. • Further: Marginalized groups used as scapegoats—immigrants, trans individuals, and other minorities. • Purpose: Sowing fear, consolidating power, and crushing dissent.
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Overcrowded prisons become de facto internment camps. New facilities could be erected or repurposed (old military bases, tent cities). DHS + ICE-style detention tactics may scale. Public-private prison contracts might explode.
International outcry begins here.
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Citizens still possess numbers, networks, and memory: • (1) Mass Protest / Civil Disobedience: Occupy-style but larger, more diffuse. • (2) General Strikes: Economic shutdowns—hitting supply chains and corporations that backed authoritarian policies. • (3) Local Safe Havens: Sanctuary cities, rogue state governors, civil rights lawyers mobilizing. • (4) Digital Resistance: Whistleblowing, leaks, and counter-propaganda. • (5) Emigration: Professionals and activists fleeing to Canada, EU nations, New Zealand.
Civil war? Not likely in the traditional sense. Insurgency and sabotage, perhaps. Deep polarization, certainly.
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At first: a sense of victory, dominance, grievance vindicated.
But: • The economy collapses. Sanctions. Isolation. Internal unrest. • Power over whom? The country becomes harder to govern. Infighting begins. • World War? Not immediately, but global instability accelerates.
Fantasy expansionism (e.g., Greenland, Mexico) is delusional. America would be busy containing itself.
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Authoritarians want control, not ash. Even Putin preserved core functionality. Trump’s wildcard nature may alarm even allies.
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No.
Chaos threatens profit. They’ll back power until it threatens capital. If markets crash, labor flees, and property is at risk—they’ll flip. They want deregulation, not dystopia.
The true threat to autocracy is a well-informed, well-connected citizenry that doesn’t flinch.
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Conclusion
This thought experiment lands on a truth: authoritarian power isn’t sustainable without buy-in or fear. Resistance—if organized, strategic, and courageous—can shatter it.
Your best bet? Know your rights. Know your neighbors. Know your values. Be ready to act, not react.