r/Oscars • u/Big-Brilliant7558 • 11d ago

Discussion Academy declined to publicly support Hamdan Ballal when kidnapped and tortured by Israeli soldiers and settlers, say Yuval Abraham

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u/MiserableCourt1322 11d ago edited 11d ago

Honest question does the Academy come out in support of someone when something happens to them outside the context of the award show?

I side with Palestine but I just don't remember them releasing statements of support or condemnation for anyone unless something happened in the lead up to the award show (Karla Sofia Gascon) or at the award show (Chris Rock).

Edited to add: I checked and they issued a statement of support back in 2011 for imprisoned Iranian filmmakers.

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I apologize for being a dumb-dumb and not doing the fact checking before commenting and trying to give rich ppl the benefit of the doubt. I should know better.

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u/sumerislemy 11d ago

It’s also worth noting the soldiers mocked him for winning an Oscar— there’s no doubt he was being punished for making the movie, in addition to being Palestinian. 

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u/Em3107 10d ago

He was also on camera seen throwing rocks at people… which is a crime.

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u/Tiny_Tim1956 9d ago

wow a crime? That excuses everything! War crimes especially.

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u/Em3107 9d ago

It’s not a war crime to arrest someone who is violently attacking another person.

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u/the_horny_rhino 9d ago

So it's ok to throw rocks at the authorities but its not ok for the authorities to arrest the aggressor? I mean, this is actually quite consistent with the Palestinian ethos of "be violent--face repurcussions--play the victim in front of the camera"--- so at least there's that.

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u/Tiny_Tim1956 9d ago

playing the fool deliberately is the only way you can hope to win this argument and i won't entertain you. The man was kidnapped and tortured in the process of an ongoing illegal expansion in the west bank, in the context of settler colonialism and genocide.

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u/Horror_Plankton6034 9d ago

There are cameras everywhere. Both CCTV and cell phones. Think about what you’re implying. 

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u/sumerislemy 9d ago

They are not valid authorities. They are illegal occupiers.

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u/Advanced_Sun9676 7d ago

So if the punishment for throwing rocks is torture and prison . What are the consequences for the murder of kids and civilians.

Or Does your gotcha like everything else only apply to one side ?

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u/Critical-Ad-5215 7d ago

It's also alleged the settlers were threatening him and his family

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u/hoopnet 11d ago

100% if this happened to a non-Palestinian winner, they would have made a statement. I can’t imagine if Emma Stone got lynched and kidnapped them not making a statement

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u/MiserableCourt1322 11d ago

You know what I checked and they have issued a statement of support in 2011 for an imprisoned Iranian filmmaker.

So I guess they can fuck right off.

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u/slipperysack666 11d ago

100% - Bellal being a Palestinian Arab means he doesn’t deserve the same respect and dignity. Clearly.

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u/juandebuttafuca 11d ago

Please don't call them arabs. Israel purposely uses that term to obscure their indigenous connection to the land.

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u/slipperysack666 11d ago

what are you talking about?? Palestinians are proudly arabic and arabic speaking people. Israelis degrade Arabs because of their own racism. there is absolutely nothing wrong with being Arabic - god bless them.

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u/DankJank13 10d ago

It's always amazing to me when people would rather erroneously criticize certain phrasing rather than support a clearly beneficial message. This is why people struggle to be support liberal ideas, because there's always someone waiting to say "you aren't doing it correctly, you used the wrong word... you're feeding into the oppression actually"

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u/Em3107 10d ago

They are Arabs no different than Arabs in Jordan. Palestinian isn’t an ethnic group. It’s a nationalized identity

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u/DrStevenBrule69 11d ago edited 11d ago

Would they? Have they done that before? Legitimately asking.

And if so, why have they done that? The idea that we care about the opinions of a bunch of geriatric film critics is lost on me.

Do people look to The Academy as some sort of moral beacon? Why would anyone bestow upon them that responsibility?

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u/JasonVoorhees95 10d ago

Would they? Have they done that before? Legitimately asking.

Well buddy, it's not usual for a US ally to kidnap filmmakers because of the movie that gave them an oscar. It's dumb to ask what the academy has done in this situation in the past, because this is not a normal situation.

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u/burywmore 11d ago edited 11d ago

So the Academy gives the Oscar to a Palestinian, but they hate Palestinians?

And what dictionary are you non English speakers using where anything like a lynching took place? Quit being lazy liars and using words associated with horrific, historical racial crimes while absolutely not knowing the meaning.

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u/TheJooooo 10d ago

Nazi got punched, cry harder

Also HE was the one trying to lynch people LOL, it's a miracle he wasn't treated worse for trying to lynch people.

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u/LibraryVolunteer 11d ago edited 11d ago

I agree, the only Academy statements I recall involve the awards show or the nomination process . Other than saying “we were very sorry to see that one of our awardees was attacked,” what else can they do? Forbid Israel from submitting a Best Foreign Film? Enlist Jimmy Kimmel and Chris Rock to fly over and wreak vengeance on the settlers who did this?

ETA: oh, props to you for double checking! I wonder, though….supporting imprisoned Iranian filmmakers in 2011 can’t really be compared to supporting a Palestinian filmmaker in 2025. Bigger stakes. More controversy and definitely more division. It’ll be interesting to see if they do come out and say something.

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u/MiserableCourt1322 11d ago

I am in the wrong here, they have at least once back in 2011 in support of imprisoned Iranian filmmakers.

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u/smegabass 11d ago

They probably regret now calling for the release of the Iranian film maker. They are either cowards or are OK with what happened.

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u/JasonVoorhees95 10d ago

Well, it's not usual for award winners to be tortured and kidnapped by US allies because of the film that got them the award.

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u/SidMcDout 10d ago

Israel is an apartheid terror state

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u/kates666 10d ago

correct

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u/senator_corleone3 10d ago

You really don’t have to apologize for asking a question.

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u/DimensionHat1675 11d ago

Why would the Academy do that in this case? What a stupid question.

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u/MiserableCourt1322 11d ago

As I pointed out, they have in the past. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo what now?

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u/MiserableCourt1322 11d ago

Filmmakers imprisoned for political reasons is a pretty big similarity.

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u/MiserableCourt1322 11d ago

Correct, but they could have issued a statement when he was missing/imprisoned like they did for Iranian filmmakers but they chose not to.

Glad I can recap the thing that have been talking about this entire time.

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u/astrobagel 11d ago

I support Hamdan Ballal, and it’s atrocious what has happened to him, though I do have a legitimate question:

Does the Academy have a history of making public statements on issues or stories like this?

“The Academy” is not a monolith, and its members are only connected through their involvement in the film industry. I would understand them not making statements on any matter outside of their own activity (and yes, I’m aware he won an Oscar for a movie about these injustices currently happening).

If they have publicly spoken out about injustice in the world before, there needs to be a statement.

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u/BookInteresting6717 11d ago

Some one in the comments said that in 2011, they publicly supported imprisoned Iranian filmmakers?

https://dga.org/News/PressReleases/2011/1019-Entertainment-Industry-Organizations-Unite-in-Support-of-Imprisoned-Iranian-Filmmakers

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u/Dry_Homework_1590 10d ago

How many of their members are getting kidnapped and tortured on a regular basis to even make your response to this make any sense?

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u/[deleted] 10d ago edited 10d ago

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u/BananaShakeStudios 11d ago

Further proof that they only care about looking progressive

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u/Accurate_Elk_3776 11d ago

If he was a blue eyed blonde ukranian they would have sad but true earth 2025

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u/Em3107 10d ago

Not if the blue eyed blonde Ukrainian was on video seen throwing rocks at people like this guy did.

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u/QueenMaeve___ 10d ago

People are being bombed but throwing rocks is apparently enough to be kidnapped carted off to die somewhere

Also you say this like people wouldn't support that Ukrainian throwing rocks at Russians (or more specifically russian soliders)

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u/Em3107 10d ago

Who is being bombed in the West Bank?

And I don’t see an issue with Hamas being bombed at all unless you support terrorists.

And yea throwing rocks at people is a crime it can injure/kill them and is a violent act.

It warrants an arrest.

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u/QueenMaeve___ 10d ago

Who's being bombed again? Mostly not Hamas. And in a country in an active war zone where their people are being genocided throwing rocks is child's play at best lmao, especially when the settlers were not only doing the same but also beating people with clubs and stoning their cars and also brutally beating and zip tying them to be carted off but sure, it only hurts people when it's Palestinians doing it because they aren't considered human anymore lol. It's like when one sibling lightly taps the other one after being incessantly beaten by them only for the other one to cry and whine leaving the sibling to be punished and berated for light retaliation.

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u/Em3107 9d ago

You are mixing up the West Bank and Gaza. The West Bank isn’t being bombed and throwing stones that can injure/maim/kill someone is a crime and warrants an arrest. Period.

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 8d ago

The Israelis on the west bank are illegal occupiers and have no right to claim to be victims if they get injured. If I come to your house and steal some shit you would be in every right to kill me, same goes for the west bank.

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 8d ago

I support freedom fighters, I guess you also consider the IRA to be terrorists too

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u/Em3107 4d ago

Freedom fighters don’t kidnap babies and massacre young adults at a festival.

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 4d ago

Freedom fighters do anything. You westerners and your definitions. I stop giving a shit about who you call a terrorist and a righteous person

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u/Em3107 4d ago

They can do anything doesn’t mean it’s right or they won’t be held accountable. You kidnap babies and massacre innocents there will be a justified response

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u/Accurate_Elk_3776 9d ago

Just say for you murdering brown people is ok

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u/Krakingliner 10d ago

Lol y'all zio nazi's need to come up with better excuses

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u/stanetstackson 9d ago

Do you know how unhinged you sound to non-Zionists? Nobody but yall think throwing rocks at the people violently invading your land is a valid reason to then get beaten nearly to death and kidnapped. Like do you really think you’re winning anyone over with that argument?

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u/Advanced_Union_9073 9d ago

Not rocks 😟😟😟😟

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 8d ago

If he did throw rocks why was he freed without any charge on the next day? This was a pogrom, there's not any other way to describe it

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u/Doomsdayszzz 10d ago

People trying to defend the academy is crazy work. You are not part of the club guys.

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u/rosiebb77 11d ago

…ew.

This is fucking disgusting and absolutely shameful.

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u/QuaixiAnimate 11d ago

Holy moly.

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u/DrStevenBrule69 11d ago edited 11d ago

Lol what the fuck is the academy supposed to do?

Am I missing something here? How would the Academy’s public support have any influence over this situation?

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u/deethy 11d ago

It was no question, public outcry that got him released. Any public support for Palestinians is very important right now. Look at how many Palestinian journalists have been killed with impunity because Western media remains silent about it.

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u/DrStevenBrule69 11d ago edited 11d ago

Im confused— the academy’s advocacy would have impacted this matter?

Not trying to be snarky. Genuinely asking. I find that claim to be dubious, but I guess it’s possible that I’m ignorant to the Academy’s influence.

Re; western media’s influence on Palestinian Journalists— I’m not that confident that western media wields that much power over a war that’s been waged for over a century, thousands of miles away.

Palestinian journalists havent been harmed because of western media’s silence, they’ve been harmed because Palestinians are at war with the Israelis.

I don’t know how down I am with this savior complex that it seems like you’re projecting.

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u/deethy 11d ago

I'm a bit dumbfounded that you don't know that solidarity is extemely important, especially when we're speaking of a group of people undergoing a genocide and apartheid. Saying the West is complicit in large due to its silence (among other things) isn't having a savior complex, it's simply the truth.

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u/DrStevenBrule69 11d ago edited 11d ago

I think it’s the truth that the US government is complicit in that they’re funding the Israelis. I think that’s fucked.

I don’t think it’s the truth that western media is getting Palestinians killed. I find that to be a stretch.

To tie it back in with the original point, I think it’s a stretch to assume that the academy has any influence over what’s happening in Gaza.

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u/Teasturbed 11d ago

Well, an Israeli director who won an oscar for a documentary about the oppression of Palestinians clearly thinks that the Academy's support is important.

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u/DrStevenBrule69 11d ago

I would imagine that he’d find any display of support to be important.

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u/deethy 11d ago

It absolutely is. Palestinian journalists (many who have been killed) have pleaded for solidarity from western journalists knowing how important their support and outcry would be, they've been accompanied by some brave voices in the international community like Jeremy Scahill, but not many.

Ahamd Ibsais, Palestinian journalist explains it better than me:

"The idea that Western journalists are responsible for Hossam’s martyrdom today is not a slogan. Their total journalistic malpractice and regurgitation of Zionist propaganda has left Palestinian journalists exposed, as a precious few who publish the truth, and, therefore: targets. Their failure to accurately report on the targeting of their colleagues, their reluctance to challenge Israeli narratives, and their tendency to frame these killings as unfortunate byproducts of conflict rather than deliberate acts—these journalistic failures have real consequences. They have left Palestinian journalists vulnerable, bearing alone the responsibility of documenting atrocities that many Western outlets refuse to acknowledge."

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u/DrStevenBrule69 11d ago

Interesting. I appreciate you providing that quote.

I still find it kinda funny that a bunch of geriatric film critics would have an impact, but I’m open to the overarching idea that media’s silence is more harmful than I had considered.

For what it’s worth, I stand with Palestine. I am just of the belief that America has an obnoxious savior complex. Maybe I’ve been too dismissive of the impact.

I appreciate you.

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u/deethy 11d ago

It's the message they send, the Board for the Academy are very powerful people and them sending a message of solidarity is impactful, for the industry, where actors and actresses are being targeted for being Pro Palestine, for Palestinians, to see that they're not alone in this fight, especially in this case, Palestinian filmmakers who recently won an Oscar and were brutalized because of it. Israel itself knows the power of media- that's why it spends so much money on propoganda, why you can find so many former Israel lobbyists working in newsrooms across America.

I honestly think America has the opposite of a savior complex, we bomb and sanction whoever to keep ourselves an empire.

Appreciate you as well.

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u/DrStevenBrule69 11d ago edited 11d ago

Word. Well said.

My only question- were they brutalized because they won an Oscar or were they brutalized for speaking out?

that’s an important distinction as it relates to the academy’s culpability.

I think that’s where, on a micro level, I’d disagree that the academy has any responsibility here. I’d agree with you, though, that it would be helpful for them to articulate their support in general.

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u/deethy 11d ago edited 11d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/KU5PacWdgm

That was an interview done with Hamdan and his wife after he came home yesterday, they both mentioned the attacks have gotten worse after the Oscar's and Basel, the other co director was quoted saying it felt like a punishment. I don't necessarily think the Academy is culpable for the attacks, Israeli settlers brutalize Palestinians just because they can, but they do have a duty to speak up for filmmakers they themselves awarded being attacked for said film.

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u/Advanced_Union_9073 9d ago

He won an oscar 3 weeks ago. Any support against israeli atrocities is so beneficial at a time where the U.S government is not only funding this genocide but also encouraging it very publicly

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u/DrStevenBrule69 9d ago edited 9d ago

I mean in theory, sure.

I just find the idea that the academy as an important voice in international diplomacy to be kinda funny. It reminds me of the Chappelle bit “did anyone get Ja Rules thoughts on the matter? Where’s Ja?”

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u/StormRepulsive6283 11d ago

Well I thought that’s what the Oscar is for

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u/nbiina 9d ago

This is exactly why people tune out. They’re only virtuous as a gesture—The Academy doesn’t stand for anything, even when they appear to give in to “Oscars so white campaigns” etc. it is ALL empty platitudes, a hollow institution.

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u/duff_golf 9d ago

It’s an award program. They just hand out rewards.

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u/lavenderpenguin 11d ago

Absolutely horrific 💔😞 prayers for Hamdan Ballal

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u/ThePataCat 9d ago

Honestly, anything that's not directly related out of this sub

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u/StreamLife9 11d ago

its crazy that the news forgot to mention he was filmed throwing rocks at israelis - thats why he got arrested .
its like they keep forgetting to mention the cause.... i wonder why

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u/deethy 11d ago edited 11d ago

Throwing rocks is the same defense Israel uses to kidnap children and hold them in their prisons. Oh and to kill them too. And of course, Israelis have never, ever terrorized Palestinians in the West Bank before this. That footage Yuval shared of the settlers attacking must have been AI.

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u/StreamLife9 10d ago

You do aware that palastinans are doing terror attacks every day in israel .but they forget to mention this in international news

they bomb busses, trains, stabb pregnant women, shooting kids, killed a group of kids playing soccer , shoot dogs and all of this just from 2025. So yeah sorry to burst your bubble its not ai lmao

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u/deethy 10d ago

The bus bombing- no group has claimed responsibility for the attack and 3 suspects, two of them being Jewish Israelis were arrested. No casualties. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rkh500ascje

The attack on the soccer field killed 12 Syrian children. Again, no one has claimed responsibility for those attacks either.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/28/middleeast/israel-hezbollah-golan-heights-soccer-strikes-intl/index.html

You know who we definitively know is killing Syrians as we speak? Israelis.

https://apnews.com/article/syria-israel-strikes-fe1eacbdaebc6564f2c3559b999e6c0f

I tried to look up the other instances you mentioned and found nothing.

The civilian death toll in Gaza is over 50,000- and growing, unfortunately, while the Israel civilian death toll sits at 995. Most of the infrastructure in Gaza is destroyed, while in Israel, it's not. 17,400 children in Gaza are reported killed and many more under rubble. Oh and in the West Bank, 905 killed. Many of them children. All of this disparity in killing must have me confused. Please, educate me on what they don't mention in the international news, hm?

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u/Big-Brilliant7558 11d ago

He was throwing rocks cuz he was attacked by Israeli settlers, forgot to mention that... I wonder why

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u/TheJooooo 10d ago

(He was the one trying to lynch Israelis on their land, he's lucky he wasn't killed, just another major showing of restraint by Israel on Nazis)

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 8d ago

Their land? The west bank?

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u/TheJooooo 6d ago

Yes, under international law the land is Israeli

They are the successor state to the Mandate under the law of Uti Possidetis Juris. This part of international law exists to prevent the carving up of territories that gained independence. Which is exactly what happened to Israel after the Arab states rejected the two state solution. So under international law, Judea and Samaria and Gaza are all legally Israeli land under illegal occupation from originally Jordan and Egypt, and nowadays Palestinians.

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u/QueenMaeve___ 10d ago

Please educate me on how the Nazi's were being bombed daily by the Jews because I don't remember that part of history

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u/TheJooooo 10d ago

Ok

So the Palestinian identity was founded entirely on them needing to kill Jews

We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion. We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem. -Yasser Arafat

Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations. -Yasser Arafat

That makes them Nazis

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u/QueenMaeve___ 10d ago

The way the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and other international groups have called what Israel does a genocide, and when Israel has been transparent about wanting to settle overtake the Gaza Strip completely, using blatantly genocidal language, don't draw proper boundaries, calling Palestinians cows and animals that must be eliminated, etc. and yet y'all cover your ears and say "lalalala I didn't hear!!! Condemn and kill hamas!!!" would be hilarious if it wasn't sad. The reason Hamas have power is because the people live in fear that they can be bombed and killed at any time for the sole fact that they are Palestinian and DARE to live on the land they want. What else can they do? This is why Hitler happened, and the Rohingya genocide, and the Uyghur genocide, and so many atrocities have occurred and continue to occur.

But sure, I believe the country with more power who has been systematically releasing propaganda, is supposed by superpowers like the U.S, and when Palestinian support has been suppressed. I believe them when random Palestinians are arrested and disappear to be left to die and they say "but... terrorists!!" By killing these babies we are stopping the terrorists!!" And when Jewish people condemn them they say they are not real Jews.

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u/TheJooooo 10d ago

Thoughts on the IMF

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u/Shmooptybop 11d ago

I would also throw rocks at someone if they came from far away and tried to kick me out of my home

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u/TheJooooo 10d ago

Yes, that's why Israelis are defending their land from Settler Palestinians

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u/onlymeow 10d ago

You can't be serious right now

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u/TheJooooo 10d ago

Leftist American journalist Albert Viton reported in 1936 that “Not only has Palestinian Arabia been enriched by Jewish immigration, but Palestine has become the center of attraction for the whole Near East. Tens of thousands of Arabs enter illegally every year in search of work.” In a 1948 report from Mandatory Palestine, future U.S. senator Robert F. Kennedy (who twenty years hence would be assassinated by a Palestinian) concurred: “The Jews point with pride to the fact that over 500,000 Arabs, in the 12 years between 1932 and 1944, came into Palestine to take advantage of living conditions existing in no other Arab state.”

" ...Arab immigration into Mandatory Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during this whole period." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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u/DimensionHat1675 11d ago

Hilarious that you're being downvoted for simply sharing the other side of a clearly loaded political story. Classic Reddit echo chamber LOL.

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u/TheJooooo 10d ago

It's not even the other side, it's the truth, video was released of it. He was trying to lynch Jews and got arrested for it lmao

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u/StreamLife9 10d ago

Im not even gonna act surprised.

the jewish pov is ai at this point. Nobody care or believe it even if it’s true.

people online are so brainwashed

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u/deethy 10d ago

Perhaps you should look at how many civilians, including children, are murdered in the West Bank or held hostage in Israeli jails, before you call something an echo chamber.

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u/Pugnati 11d ago

Yesterday, Abraham claimed that Ballal had been "lynched" by settlers. No he's claiming it was torture by soldiers. Maybe people should hold off until Israel comments.

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u/Fearless_Prune_2310 11d ago

He was lynched by settlers and then tortured by soldiers in prison. You ok?

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u/Fisch_Kopp_ 10d ago

better learn the meaning of words before using them. he was not lynched.

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u/Fearless_Prune_2310 10d ago

Sorry he didn’t die. He was severely beaten up by invaders onto his land. And then jailed handcuffed and blindfolded overnight for not doing anything. The ISRAELI filmmaker who shed light on this situation apologized for a word mistranslated. Is that better? Are getting the semantics bang on better? Just a severe beating by some thugs and arbitrary kidnapping and imprisonment. All whilst still enduring daily horror from these thugs and no sign of reprieve or peace. We can all breathe easy now. Apartheid apologist.

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u/Pugnati 11d ago

lynched

transitive verb

: to put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal approval or permission

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u/Ready-Sock-2797 10d ago

The same ones committing genocide?

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u/Fearless_Prune_2310 11d ago

Those Israelis aren’t supposed to be there. It’s internationally recognized Palestinian land and these thugs come to their HOMES and beat them, kill them, bulldoze their homes. It’s literally illegal. What would you do if there were thuggish murderous squatters in your land? You should probably watch the movie.

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u/TheJooooo 10d ago

actually legally under international law it's all Israel

Uti possidetis juris. Due to Israel being the only successor state to the Mandate due to the Arab World rejecting the peace, Palestinians/Arabs have illegally been occupying Judea and Samaria and Gaza since 1948 now.

Dunno why people just ignore that (It's because that hate Israel for being right)

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u/Resident_Bluebird_77 8d ago

Right, guess the Israeli democratic most moral army on earth protocol for stone throwers is to beat them up and kidnap them from their ambulance to then free them the next day without any charge. I also find it quite interesting how most people that are victims of settler violence were actually "throwing stones", even though most of the time there's no evidence and if there is it's usually sketchy. But don't listen to me, guess I'm too antisemitic

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u/Ready-Sock-2797 10d ago

Israel commits genocide and that is your excuse?

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u/Distinct-Shift-4094 11d ago

Honestly, here comes the anti-semite mob going after The Academy but hopefully they stand their ground. They don't need to and are not obligated to do a post award statement.

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u/BookInteresting6717 11d ago

How is it anti semitic to support Palestinians??? Or to condemn what happened to him. They just gave him an award for depicting the harm done to civilians

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u/Fearless_Prune_2310 11d ago

That word now means absolutely nothing thanks to people like you misusing it.

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u/QueenMaeve___ 10d ago

This take is hilarious because y'all act like the Academy making a simple statement about a situation where someone literally ALMOST fucking DIED would've been soooo fucking difficult. Like ohhh noo poor little Academy had to take three second to type some solidarity to someone they featured in an awards show, boo fucking hoo.

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u/jgroove_LA 11d ago

An Oscar winner from 3 weeks was lynched - what is wrong with you?

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u/Ready-Sock-2797 10d ago

What does that mean “anti-Semite mob”?

How is people concerned about nothing said an “anti-Semite mob”?

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u/Krakingliner 10d ago

Here comes the zionist hitlers to defend their crimes

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u/Blue_Dolphin_36112 10d ago

Not surprised… look what is happening with Rachel zegler

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u/onlymeow 10d ago

Atleast show their support for a person who just won an award in your event and the fact that his abduction was related to the film which got him the award.

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u/Theounekay 10d ago

THIS IS DISGUSTING !!!! 🤮 he was abducted while in the ambulance after being lynched by terrorists settlers

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u/Ok_Beat9172 10d ago

"Lynch" isn't necessarily the correct term here. Lynching refers to extra-judicial killings of people. He was kidnapped and physically beaten (which is bad enough), but not lynched.

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u/Theounekay 10d ago

I traduced from french. Lynchage in French means violence by a group or a mob. I’m not a English speaker. But you know what I mean. They attacked him in his house and tried to beat him to death. I don’t know this special word in English for this… 😒

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u/TappyMauvendaise 11d ago

I understand why. They’d be canceled either way. Don’t they focus on films?

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u/somethingnew_18 11d ago

They chose to award him, which I’m sure put a target on his back, and then refused to back him up. The academy is being spineless

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u/TappyMauvendaise 11d ago

I support him. The Academy awarded his film. His film is important.

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u/Agitated_Candle8603 11d ago

film is innately political. they took a stand by refusing to condemn human rights :/

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u/deethy 11d ago

Film is political. Palestinian lives, as always, just don't matter that much to most.

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u/GroovyYaYa 11d ago

They should come out with a statement just because the Oscars are so recent. However, The Academy is not a single person. There is a CEO and a decent number of administrative roles. It is a non-profit with a board of directors from all over - 1-3 people per branch (mainly 3) plus 3 at large individuals. 6 board officers. It is HUGE.

My point is that I know when I've been on the board of a small non-profit and something happens that we feel requires a statement, getting everyone together just so it can be discussed is a PITA, and we were all local and there were maybe 15 of us, max. Sure they can meet on Zoom, but that is a bit of a logistical nightmare too, to set up an emergency meeting.

It literally happened two days ago - due to a mistranslation, the word "lynch" was used so initially there was questions I'm sure. You don't make a statement of that magnitude without a little research. Confirm that he wasn't arrested on legit charges or was indeed a victim of violence. He was taken 2 days ago, and released yesterday. Not sure they've had TIME to release a statement.

But perhaps they should empower the CEO to draft a sort of "placeholder" statement like "we are hearing the news of a potentially violent incident involving recent winner, and waiting for confirmation that he was killed."

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u/Pandy_Matinkin 10d ago

Who cares about the academy? What pull would they have had?

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u/QueenMaeve___ 10d ago

Public support was quite literally the only reason that man isn't dead, so yes, they do have pull if ordinary people did.

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u/jgroove_LA 11d ago

their letters to members is utterly embarrassing