r/Oscars • u/Dangerous_Fill6136 • 2d ago
Discussion One time the Academy failed to recognize one of the best acting performances that year and a career best
Ethan Hawke’s performance in “First Reformed” not only deserved a nomination, but also the win. People either love the film, don’t like it, or didn’t understand it, but to those that have watched this film, and all the others that were nominated in 2019, we should be able to agree Ethan Hawke’s acting was masterful & deserved that nomination and/or win 💯
What’s a time you think the Academy fumbled recognizing a career best performance or best performance of that year?
Also deserve to be mentioned:
Toni Collette - Hereditary
Jake Gyllenhaal - Nightcrawler
Delroy Lindo - Da 5 Blood
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u/Price1970 2d ago
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u/Dangerous_Fill6136 2d ago
Oh yes for sure, until I die, I stand by that Val Kilmer was Oscar worthy as Doc Holiday
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u/aweiner99 1d ago
I was surprised to find out Val was never nominated for an Oscar. I don’t know how he wasn’t nominated for The Doors. It seems like every other actor gets recognition for music biopics and Val resembled Jim Morrison more than everyone else who played a famous musician
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u/Little_Soup8726 5h ago
The awful reality is that he was not well liked in the industry. He was a brilliant actor and gave many performances that stand the test of time, but he was prickly, combative and “difficult.” If you read articles about his death, the negative comments about him from directors and others tell the story. It’s not fair or just, but awards are based on humans voting, not an objective assessment.
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u/leafonthewind006 2d ago
This has been an extremely popular opinion for the last few years, if not decades. Just wanted to say that before people start the bandwagoning after his passing. We all knew he should have been nominated and won.
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u/Price1970 2d ago edited 1d ago
Correct.
It's been a consensus for decades.
The crazy part is that Kilmer wasn't nominated anywhere, with critics or the Golden Globes or BAFTAs.
The film had a Christmas day release in the pre internet era, but other movies and performances were almost as late that year and were recognized.
I don't think that Tombstone, though, was at any film festivals.
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u/Brodyhooperquint 2d ago
Brilliant performance, should have been nominated. But still should have lost to Ralph Feinnes. Tommy Lee Jones should not have won that year.
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u/Price1970 2d ago edited 2d ago
Had Val been nominated anywhere, not just the Oscars, and won somewhere: Golden Globe, BAFTA, National Society of Film Critics, National Board of Review, New York or Los Angeles Film Critics, I'd be happy for some sort of proper recognition.
As for Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List, that would have been a legit toss-up for me, but Val deserved his due somewhere.
At least Fiennes was nominated everywhere and won BAFTA, National Society of Film Critics, New York, Chicago, Boston, and Dallas-Fort Worth Critics.
Especially his performance forever being a BAFTA winner, as well as an Oscar nominee.
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u/UnionBlueinaDesert 1d ago
Wait wait wait, Val Kilmer in Tombstone was THAT YEAR??? WHAT
It's official, 1994 is essentially the greatest year of Supporting Actor performances in history. There's already been a debate for years over Tommy Lee Jones winning for The Fugitive, a great supporting performance, or Leonardo DiCaprio's breakout role in What's Eating Gilbert Grape, or Ralph Fiennes in Schindler's List, and now I learn that Val Kilmer wasn't even nominated for Tombstone.
Any of those four would have been incredible winners. What a phenomenal year
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u/jdiv79 2d ago
Oscar Isaac - Inside Llewyn Davis
Paul Giamatti - Sideways
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u/Big-Beta20 2d ago
Inside Llewelyn Davis captures the vibe of depression better than any film I’ve ever watched.
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u/FuzzyBunnysGuide 2d ago
I simply refuse to believe that neither of these performances were nominated for Oscars. These are two of the most natural lead acting performances I've ever seen in a movie.
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u/UnionBlueinaDesert 1d ago
Oscar Isaac has one of my alltime favorite performances in Inside Llewyn Davis. Honestly, I don't think he's ever been that good since.
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u/Price1970 2d ago
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u/tobeshitornottobe 2d ago
Rocketman was infinitely better than Bohemian Rhapsody in almost every way
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u/Price1970 2d ago
It's crazy, especially in regard to Taron Egerton, because he won both the Golden Globe and Satellite Award for Musical or Comedy, and both were over eventual Oscar nominee that year Leonardo DiCaprio.
Egerton was also a SAG and BAFTA nominee, and his SAG nomination was over eventual Oscar nominees that year Jonathan Pryce and Antonio Banderas, and his BAFTA nomination was over Banderas.
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u/Fearless_Listen2215 2d ago
UGH I love this movie so much!!! He is such a talent, and magnetic on screen. He was absolutely snubbed!
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u/RedRawTrashHatch 2d ago edited 2d ago
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u/BlackRabbett 1d ago
This one will always make me sad. One of my favorite performances by any actor.
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u/komorebi09 2d ago
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u/Primary_Bison_2848 2d ago
Huh. I would have sworn on a stack of bibles she got her first nom for that. She was really, really good.
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u/patschpatsch 2d ago
Mia Goth for Pearl
She was fantastic in it and there is no other actress that could have played that character the way Mia Goth did.
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u/CJK-2020 2d ago
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u/FuzzyBunnysGuide 2d ago
To add to your point: Ruth Negga's performance was nominated for Best Supporting Actress at basically every film award show except for the Oscars. That's just baffling to me.
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u/CJK-2020 2d ago
Negga was likewise excellent and her non nomination was certainly enraging. But Tessa Thompson’s was mind numbingly ignored by the U.S. awards circuit. At least she got a BAFTA nomination for Best Actress.
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u/gagathallalong 1d ago
Just recently watched this one. It’s such a confident first film with great ideas and visually arresting. Pity it wasn’t nominated for any Oscars.
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u/nyeehhsquidward 2d ago edited 2d ago
Time will tell if it’s a career best, but Charles Melton absolutely had one of the best supporting performances of that year in May December
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u/Primary_Bison_2848 2d ago
He was so good in that. I’d never seen him in anything else before. It seems he’s getting some decent roles off the back of it though… name keeps popping up.
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u/Gazpachograd 2d ago
Adam Sandler - Uncut Gems. The most egregious snub in at least ten years
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u/SatisfactionQuirky76 2d ago
Except Willem Dafoe was in the Lighthouse the same year, and that's a top 5 all-time performance.
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u/Express-Battle6695 1d ago
Marianne Jean-Baptiste was robbed this year, her performance in Hard Truths deserved the world
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u/MycologistNo7744 2d ago
I will stand by John Dall in Rope should have won the oscar. He’s so different to Gun Crazy, and played the part of a confident killer who didn’t think he did anything wrong so well. He should have been in so many more then 8 movies.
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u/magvadis 2d ago
I thought First Reformed was 95% a really good movie but damn if that 5% didn't tank it.
Sucks because he really would have been noticed otherwise.
5% of a movie being hyper surreal is gunna be jarring to most people, and I love surrealism but it felt sooo out of pocket and like a last ditch because they ran out of ideas.
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u/onesexypagoda 2d ago
Disagree completely, I thought those scenes were GOATed and elevated it further
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u/Important_Builder317 1d ago
Not only should Ethan Hawke have been nominated, he should’ve won. Instead we got Bohemian Rhapsody embarrassingly winning four Oscars
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u/superciliouscreek 2d ago
Peter Dinklage in Cyrano.
I am not saying that just because he is one of my favorite actors, but he was nomination-worthy as Cyrano and it was his best film performance.
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u/onesexypagoda 2d ago
This movie is one of my all time favorites, in my top 5. A complete masterpiece
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u/__MOON_KNIGHT___ 1d ago
Probably couldn’t afford the campaign tbh
It’s just like a political campaign. Money wins.
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u/Material-Educator-53 1d ago
They don’t like my girl Ms Danielle Deadwyler. She reminds of Viola and Angela.
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u/WhatTheCluck802 23h ago
I’ve never even heard of that movie. Strange as I generally have at least vague awareness of all major movie releases.
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u/Top-Bake-3870 1d ago
Courtney Love, The People vs. Larry Flynt
Jeremy Irons, Dead Ringers
Madeline Kahn, What’s Up, Doc?
Lisa Kudrow, The Opposite of Sex
John Cazale, Dog Day Afternoon
Samuel L. Jackson, Jungle Fever
Mia Farrow, Broadway Danny Rose
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u/ChampionshipReady198 1d ago
Tom Cruise for the following: Born on the Fourth of July (1989), Jerry Maguire (1996), Magnolia (1999) and Top Gun: Maverick (2022)
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u/Fun-Ferret-3300 2d ago
Jim Carrey - The Truman Show (1998)