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Discussion Why Was The Hateful Eight Not A Bigger Contender At The 2016 Oscars?

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So it got well a deserved cinematography nomination and score win, also got Jennifer Jason Leigh into supporting actress (who I think should’ve won) but didn’t get screenplay (which it got BAFTA, CCA and even got into the Globes 5 for) or Picture.

IMO it also should’ve gotten best actor for Samuel L. Jackson and best supporting actor for either Walton Goggins or Kurt Russell. Also wouldn’t of minded it also getting a makeup and hairstyling nom.

What’s everyone else opinions and what nominees do you think it deserved to get? (if any)

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u/DreamOfV 2d ago

I really enjoyed it but it was considered on the messier side of Tarantino, less refined than his Oscar-successful work. It got kinda mixed reviews and was smaller scale than his Oscar hits.

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u/EntrepreneurBehavior 1d ago

I love Tarantino and this is probably my least favorite movie by him.

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u/atclubsilencio 1d ago

Same. I saw it during the 70mm roadshow, and while the experience itself was fun, it was hard to accept that it was simply very disappointing. I gave it another chance or two as sometimes it takes time for a movie to grow on me, but it was always a chore to sit through. None of the characters were memorable and were hard to care for ( tim roth especially feels like discount Christopher Waltz) even for characters that are intentionally unlikeable, just not very engaging, which drags it down as it’s a very character driven movie. I like a good chamber piece , but it doesn’t work on that level either, and I’m not sure why Tarantino made a huge deal about filming it the way he did for a movie with such a limited setting? It doesn’t really build to a satisfying ending like all of his other movies, it’s a lot of monologuing and arguments and then it just ends abruptly. There’s just no pay off.

It was even more of a letdown as it came after Django Unchained which was an instant classic IMO.

Finally, this was the first time I really felt the loss of Sally Menke. If anyone could have salvaged this , reeled in QT’s worst impulses, and turned it into a masterpiece, it would have been her. It’s really the only film of his I truly didn’t enjoy.

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u/mainguy 2d ago

The film was a tad experimental like Reservoir Dogs, kind of attempting to bridge theatre and movies (at least that’s what it felt like).

Oscars don’t really go to movies like that. H8 was Tarintino having some fun, I think he knew it wouldnt be one of his ‘greats’ but more like something different for the fans.

I really don’t think there was enough character developement for any actor oscars to be on the cards tbh.

I really enjoyed it and it was funny. I don’t think it broke any serious ground though, for Tarintino or film in general.

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u/Tortuga_MC 2d ago

Completely agree on the theatre connection. I was a freshman in college majoring in theatre when this came out, and I had just started reading Eugene O'Neil, so I got mad Iceman Cometh vibes from this.

It's not in my top 5 of Quentin's works, but I haven't seen it since it came out, and I think I would appreciate it more now that I've lived a little more life.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 2d ago

Well it was nominated for an acting Oscar rho

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u/Dmitr_Jango 2d ago

The reception was colder than expected, particularly with it being QT's follow-up to Django, a huge audience favorite and his biggest commercial hit. His choice to do another western right after it was already risky enough but then he canceled the project altogether when the script got leaked... only to revive it a little later, all of which bumped the anticipation levels a few notches up. But the movie didn't entirely meet those expectations: it wasn't a box office hit, the reviews were not raves, some thought its chamber piece quality paled in comparison with the scope of Django and didn't showcase the 70mm photography enough. But the thing that affected its awards chances in the biggest way was that it was a nasty, nihilistic piece of work without any characters to root for (which, to be fair, is right there in the title). And the Academy didn't respond to that. A similar thing happened to Gone Girl the year prior.

With all that in mind, the screenplay not getting nominated was still a major snub. The writers branch went a bit nuts that year, snubbing both The Hateful Eight and Steve Jobs in their respective categories, although they were thought of as shoo-ins. The overall strength of the contending movies seemed to especially matter for the writers that year.

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u/Shutupredneckman2 2d ago

I was scrolling to find someone mentioning the script leak, I think that killed any hype or momentum for this movie tbh even if people didn’t read the leak

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u/Dmitr_Jango 2d ago

The leak was a bummer but when he changed his mind and chose to proceed with the movie, I remember the feeling in the air being "Great! It must be really worth it!" But when the movie actually came out, a lot of people didn't quite feel that way.

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u/Conscious-Ninja9035 1d ago

This is my favorite tarantino movie hands down,I think jennifer jason leigh shouldve won supporting,and if i say samuel l jackson should’ve won his Oscar for this movie would you guys be mad at me?

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

I actuall agree 100%

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u/Conscious-Ninja9035 1d ago

🫡🤝🤝🤝 I’m in the right place

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u/Quick_Ad_7500 2d ago

It definitely would have been a bold nomination for Best Picture or Screenplay considering the political climate that year.

A lot of critics and audiences were put off by the violence against Jennifer Jason Leigh's character.

Of course, there's a lot of nuance, especially considering Tarantino's previous acclaim for female characters, but that really doesn't suit the academy's taste.

I honestly just don't see it getting widespread acclaim because of the subject matter.

Again, if it would have gotten those nominations, it would have caused quite a stir.

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u/Earlvx129 2d ago

Probably my least favorite Tarantino part. It's not bad or anything but it feels really bloated and off at times with the pacing. The flashback scene with Tatum and co seemed completely unnecessary and kind of wrecked the flow of the story.

This is the one Tarantino film where it gets pretty saggy and bogged down. Only ever saw it the one time and it was fine for what it was, but it's his weakest movie.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 2d ago

The flashback scene is crucial to the plot tho? I get if you feel the flow was off but the scene was 100% necessary

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u/Earlvx129 2d ago

Felt like a line of dialogue would have done the job just as well as a lengthy flashback.

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u/Roadshell 2d ago

Because it was a divisive film that came out pretty late, didn't do very good at the box office, and got mixed reviews? It was kind of lucky that a career narrative led it to win the one Oscar it did win.

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u/nothing-feels-good 2d ago

This is my favorite Tarantino film. If I could only choose one, it would be this.

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u/rideriseroar 2d ago

It's my #2 favorite after Jackie Brown. There are dozens of us!

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 2d ago

Bold choice! It would definitely be in my top 3

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u/El_Mexolotl 2d ago

Because Oscar voters don't know shit

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u/Unoriginal-finisher 2d ago

I think this is Tarantino’s worst film, but it’s still a damn good movie. It’s essentially a murder mystery with 8 characters, but the issue is when the murder occurs we know half of them didn’t do it, leaving four suspects and the result is…they all did it more or less. There’s not enough meat on the bone here for almost 3 hours. I absolutely loved Kurt Russell in this flick and initially thought he should have scored an Oscar nom, now on rewatches I would switch that to Walton Goggins, he’s just hilarious in this.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 2d ago

I know no one asked but it’s personally in my top 5 Tarantino films, although I might be an outlier as I prefer all his newer work post death proof than his 90s and early 2000s films

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u/Unoriginal-finisher 2d ago

The man has never made a bad a movie, he’s a genius. For me it’s Pulp, KB2, JB, KB, DU, RD, DP, IB, OUATIH, and H8 coming in last…but still a very good movie.

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u/BookkeeperButt 2d ago

All of his movies are like 8/10 or 9/10. They’re hard to rank and repeat viewing usually drastically change my opinions.

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u/Shutupredneckman2 2d ago

Yeah I have seen this movie probably 15-20 times and have always agreed - it would be a much cooler story if everyone was against everyone instead of just two sides forming like halfway through

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u/overtired27 2d ago

Yeah, it's just not that clever for a murder mystery movie. There was a real chance to do a Tarantino version of a Poirot film, but the way it all got revealed and solved just wasn't very interesting. The twists in Basterds were more effective. I still enjoyed seeing the Road Show event, but it not getting a screenplay nom doesn't bother me. It has some great scenes and characters, but doesn't quite come together into something great.

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u/Unoriginal-finisher 2d ago

The miscast Tatum doesn’t help either.

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u/Shutupredneckman2 2d ago

Yeaaa I like him but he kills the suspension of disbelief as soon as he shows up

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u/Mulliganasty 1d ago

What in the world makes you think Tarantino was trying to do a murder mystery?

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u/Mulliganasty 2d ago

I won't try to yum your yuck but there's plenty to this movie with Sam Jackson and Kurt Russell arriving at Minnie's Haberdashery but then the flashback to what happened the day before and every character except Kurt Russell's lying their asses off to some extent so even though it totally works as a complete story we're left with a lot to think about.

On top of that one intense sequence after the other.

Not that you asked but I've got it 3rd or 4th from top in QT's oeuvre.

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u/Unoriginal-finisher 2d ago edited 2d ago

It’s not that much of a yuck to me, there’s way more yum ( I’m enjoying this metaphor you provided ) in fact. I think the explanation is a little to familiar ( Agatha Christie’s Murder on the Orient Express lite if you will ) and I actually dislike the flashback scene, we just listed to Sam sum up what happened and then we get a scene confirming it visually, and all it really adds is there’s a gun hidden underneath a table top ( I think we the audience could have safely assumed who stashed it without the scene ). It’s all totally worth it for the great actors and dialogue, the Lincoln letter is classic.

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u/Mulliganasty 2d ago

It's interesting that you think of it as a "murder mystery." I don't see it like that at all. We're given the big answers half-way through the film. To me, it's far from a who-dunnit.

Apologies if you knew already but QT's inspo for this film was The Thing (1982, starring Kurt Russell) where a group of researchers in Antarctica are infiltrated by a shape-shifting alien. It's about paranoia and distrust which is what QT was going for in H8 imo.

Which is why we're left with questions such as:

Was Mannix really the sheriff?

Is the rest of Domengre Gang waiting in Red Rock?

Did Minnie really hate Mexicans (she's shown earlier being quite welcoming)?

Did Marquis Warren really get his big black pecker sucked off by General Smithers' son?

...just off the top of my head.

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u/Unoriginal-finisher 2d ago

Interesting, makes me think if it was a little self serious the big reveal could have been there are two gangs..the Domengre gang and the Domer goo gang, hilarious misadventures and mistaken identity antics ensue. Think the Producers meets Unforgiven.

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u/MasterpieceOk5067 1d ago

This is actually my favorite of his from the 2010-19 decade and I think people didn’t like it because….

A). It is definitely the meanest thing he’s ever made. Making a chamber piece requires us to stay in one place or limited locations. And that makes us lean into those characters more. When those characters are written by Tarantino they will ruffle some feathers.

B. ) I think it was hurt by the rollout. It was announced as an idea, then the script leaked and he cancelled it, then he staged a reading of the script, then he made the movie and did the roadshow rollout, so it seems like it took some of the wind out of a “TARANTINO PROJECT” sails.

C). A “second western” after Django probably didn’t help in the marketing.

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u/MeadowmuffinReborn 1d ago edited 1d ago

I remember many critics disliking the way that Daisy was treated and accusing the film of misogyny, and they also disliked that the film appeared to be overly nihilistic, with no cathartic message against the institution of slavery like in Django or the Nazis like in Basterds.

I feel that this is a misinterpretation of the film though and is being unfair to it because it's not the film that they wanted it to be.

I view it similarly to something like Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch or Straw Dogs, a transgressive and mean-spirited but challenging film about the savagery of America and the potential savagery inherent in human nature.

Also, it's not just that every major character is evil, but that they represent different facets of our country and its evil history.

Chris Mannix for example is the son of a Rebel leader who led "Mannix's Marauders", which is clearly based on Quantrill's Raiders.

John Ruth represents the ACAB faction, as he is law and order personified, but also a disgusting, abusive person unaware of his own shortcomings.

Smithers is obvious, he represents the evils of white supremacy.

All of the gang members are vile and cruel and racist, and also self serving.

Warren is the closest thing to a hero, but he is still guilty of murdering innocent men in the encampment. He's the Clint Eastwood Man With No Name or Franco Nero Django spaghetti Western anti hero analogue.

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u/at0mheart 1d ago edited 1d ago

This misses the whole point.

In the end the two guys who should have hated each other the most, worked together to hang to evil criminal, in order to make America a better place. To build our great nation. This is the theme of most westerns. They presumably die just to do the right thing when they could have made a deal to get rich and help the gang members. Warren has several thousand in just his warrants.

They died reading a fake Lincoln letter but it gave them peace, as they died for a belief or the American dream that things could get better if people just work hard and do the right thing.

You meet all these characters, and don’t know who is good/bad and even though it’s right after the civil war the southern rebel (who took part in Sherman’s march) and the northern black general end up working together. The least likely pair; but in American tradition the bravest and smartest and most loyal to protecting law and order.

The hangman John Ruth was many of these things but not smart; but in the end he got his day as his hand was still connected to the chain and the weight of his hand was pulling down on Daisy as she was hanged.

That end camera work, with the blood stained bed and the slow camera pan down to show the hand was brilliant

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u/MeadowmuffinReborn 1d ago

With all due respect, I think you're the one who misunderstood the movie if you think that it's in any way a conventional Western. Tarantino is on record that he hates John Fordesque Westerns. He's much more in the spaghetti Western camp of Leone and Corbucci and also Peckinpah, all of whoms films are very nasty and cynical about America.

The point of the Lincoln Letter is that it provides hope for a better potential future where Americans can resolve our racial history and finally all be brothers and sisters, hand in hand, but it's a lie. It's a fantasy to disarm gullible white people like John Ruth(Ruth himself is the classic John Wayne archetype, he even talks like Wayne, but he's a deconstruction of Wayne, as he's a bastard who abuses his prisoners and doesn't realize that he's a racist). Maybe it can become real one day, hopefully, fingers crossed, but it's not going to happen with Chris and Warren who are both too tainted to change, and not with any of the other main characters (Maybe Minnie and Sweet Dave and those people who died, who were innocents) . Chris and Warren died together as brothers in arms, forged by fire, fighting off the Domergue gang and able to put aside their differences for the sake of self preservation and a semblance of law and order, but Chris is still a racist and Warren understandably is still resentful towards white people. They're both still bastards.

And they certainly didn't kill Daisy and the gang to "make America a better place". Warren likely doesn't give a shit about America, and Chris still has a lot of fondness for the Confederacy because of his father. You never hear him renounce his father's gang once. He died a proud rebel, as did many Confederates who were welcomed back into the Union during and after Reconstruction. Warren to him is probably "one of the good ones".

Also, it honestly wasn't really a "team up" as Warren did all of the work sussing out what happened that day. Chris almost drank the poisoned coffee like a fool and nearly died a horrible death like Ruth and O.B. Credit to Chris for not falling for Daisy's BS and for siding with Warren when it counted, but Warren was the hero of the film, for lack of a better word.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

I wouldn’t call Chris a fool for nearly drinking the coffee? I don’t remember it being stated that Warren knew the coffee was poisonous only that he just happened not to drink which is just luck so how does that make Chris more of a fool? (I might’ve misremembered something tho)

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u/at0mheart 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is not a spaghetti western and good prevailing over evil is quite clear. That is why they all had full permission to beat Daisy.

In the end the white southerner and black union general work together.

Yes the letter is a lie, so is/was the “American dream”. Many came to America sold on streets paved in gold and found there were no streets. But it’s a lie worth dying for. It’s hope for a better tomorrow, which is all we got. That’s the metaphor of the letter.

Chris knew it was fake and still wanted to read it on his deathbed. “That’s a nice letter” he says as it gives his life purpose and calm before he dies. (Maybe it was all worth it, even if it was all bullshit)

I can’t think of a better metaphor for life or the American dream. Bullshit we believe to fight for a better tomorrow.

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u/at0mheart 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think it’s his best work. Also one of the best westerns ever made.

It’s the only of his movies with a meaningful plot, meaning it has a lesson in life, and captures that western spirit of what is America (follow the Lincoln letter).

Also the cinematography and camera work throughout are phenomenal. I saw it in glorious ultra-wide screen and the shots inside and outside were spectacular.

It also brought back the long format film with intermission which other directors quickly have copied.

It’s a beautiful piece of American film making. A masterpiece. However I would say the longer cut version did fix a few issues from the original.

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u/AdamTexDavis 1d ago

It was right after some of the shooting started. It cut to intermission and then there was a QT VO narration. And Sam Jackson and Walter Goggins were shot up and there was a standoff. (Please excuse my lack of details - I saw a screening before it had come out and haven’t rewatched. I loved the first half so much - but the second half didn’t live up to the first)

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

So before it cuts to the flashback with Channing Tatum basically?

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u/AdamTexDavis 1d ago

Yeah, I think so. Before the reveal. Question for you -- did the home version have the VO from QT catching the viewer up on things? I remember it feeling so out of place.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Yes it did, that bit felt jarring to me aswell. I think it happens 2 times once when they first arrive at tha cabin and next when the flashback happens

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u/AdamTexDavis 1d ago

Yeah, it felt super unnecessary and a way for QT to get himself in the movie. It was right before that the intermission happened.

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u/AdamTexDavis 1d ago

Yeah. Definitely before the reveal

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u/cmholde2 2d ago

No Christoph Waltz

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 2d ago

He wasn’t in the film?

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 2d ago

Nvm I just got what u meant

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u/billleachmsw 1d ago

For me, it was the worst of his films. What ruined it for me was the whole “this is what happened during intermission” explanation.

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u/KittySwipedFirst 1d ago

Absolutely took me out of the film. Would have been so much better had the narration been cut and the audience is left to figure it out with the rest. Domergue has a Secret? Not to the audience apparently.

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u/doctorlightning84 2d ago

It's more brutal and dark than something like Django which has its darkness but also leaves the audience on the high feeling of seeing Django kick ass. It's a difficult film even in some ways but it's a masterwork and one of QTs best (I get it not getting a picture nomination, maybe Weinstein company also put all of its chips on Carol, but it did get snubbed for Screenplay). It was cool seeing Morricone win at least, only competitive win of his career.

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u/Other-Marketing-6167 2d ago

The violence and EXCESSIVE N-words spooked them at the time I think - plus it just plain wasn’t that acclaimed, coming hot off the more widely accepted Django.

I think is just one of those flicks where the hype was so big, it wrecked the movie a bit for people. I gave it 3.5/5 at the time, finding the first half frustratingly boring and the last half fun, but would probably raise it to 4.5/5 now after six or seven viewings. It’s a lot more, and better, than just the simple profane western murder mystery it seemed at the time (and I’m far from a Tarantino apologist too).

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Surely they’d be used to the excessive n-word use in his films before?

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u/SuccessfulComb9452 2d ago

Because the Oscars don’t mean a damn thing, I mean how many winners are legit good films over virtue signaling or checking boxes anymore. Honestly I never understood the love he or his flicks get and IMHO this wasn’t really a good movie to begin with.

I’ll admit Reservoir Dogs wasn’t bad, but outside of that he just doesn’t do it for me…let the down votes rain over me lmfao

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u/at0mheart 1d ago

Django is just a guy saves girl action movie. Of course with great acting and action.

Hateful8 is far more deep and meaningful. It captures man vs man, man vs self, man vs nature and the core of western films about men working together to make a great nation.

Add in the ultra-wide film shooting and bringing back the notion of a movie being an event with an intermission. Just brought it all together as a piece of American film making history.

Wife and I made an event of it, and dressed up and drove a few hours to see it on an ultra-wide screen. Just as great an evening as a opera or musical, even better story and entertainment

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u/burywmore 2d ago

Probably my fault. It's my second least favorite Tarantino film. So since the world revolves around me.....

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u/BenSlice0 2d ago

It’s lesser Tarantino. 

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u/AmbitionTechnical274 2d ago

It was a Weinstein movie as they were losing their cache with the Oscars pre scandal. It was viewed as inferior to his previous films that had more of an epic feel. On top of that add the Wes Anderson factor where having an ensemble that feels like a theater repertory company, singling anyone out within it becomes difficult. Being a western like Django and having the feel of a stage play like Reservoir Dogs also made it not stick out in his filmography unlike say Inglorious Bastards which was his “war film.”

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u/No_Stomach_2341 2d ago

Actually the only Tarantino movie I found meh. Like a western "Reservoir dogs", just worse 

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

I personally prefer Hateful Eight than Reservoir Dogs but I can see how people might think it’s one of his weaker films

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u/AdamTexDavis 1d ago

The second half, post intermission was a bit of a let down after the masterclass of a first half. (See also: The Brutalist)

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

I watched it at home so I’m wondering what part was the intermission at?

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u/Pale-Club-4929 1d ago

Because it's a wildly violent, vulgar, mean movie that isn't also about some real-life atrocity, which eliminates it from contention.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

And Pulp Fiction is wildly violent, vulgar, movie that isn’t about some real-life atrocity, but that doesn’t eliminate it from contention?

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u/Pale-Club-4929 1d ago

Not even close to the same level of violence and vulgarity and unpleasantness. The violence in Pulp Fiction comes in short bursts surrounded by a bunch of fun and quirky dialogue scenes. It was also a novelty at the time, as Tarantino had only made one movie that didn't take the world by storm in the same way (Pulp Fiction won at Cannes, giving it air of sophistication leading into its release). Hateful Eight is just like, people being mean to each other relentlessly (it's right there in the title!), when they aren't vomiting blood and being shot to shit and lingering in puddles of their own blood. I love the movie, but it was never gonna be an Oscar favorite.

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u/Ok_Beat9172 1d ago

Tarantino is vastly overrated. His films usually have an interesting premise, but they are messy and in need of script editing. They come across like first drafts. Way too much scenery chewing. I do admire the world he is able to create in each of his films and think Kill Bill is great, even though it meanders.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

For me it’s hard to not just overlook some of the issues because his films are such a good time

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u/krakatoot1 11h ago

It sucks

That’d be my guess

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u/Shagrrotten 2d ago

Because it’s not a very good movie?

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u/NicholeTheOtter 2d ago edited 1d ago

Correct. Divisive among the critics (especially as strong critical acclaim is key to any film’s awards chances) and also didn’t do that well at the box office. It also happened to be not a very good follow-up to one of Tarantino’s biggest hits in Django Unchained just 3 years prior.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Yes all what you’ve said is correct but it still doesn’t mean it’s not a good film and tbh just saying “it’s not good” is a lazy response.

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u/LionBig1760 2d ago

Its wasn't even in the top half of Tarantino's movies, and his top half aren't all Oscar worthy.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

I’d say they’re all “Oscar worthy” (apart from maybe Death Proof) they just didn’t all get nominated

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u/HeyZeusMyNameIsZues 2d ago

Because it's just alright?

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u/themiz2003 2d ago

It's a campy movie, which doesn't inherently disqualify it but it's definitely a debuff. The writing is more pointed towards being cool than effective. That being said it's among my favorite rewatches because it's a riot.

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u/antifascist775 1d ago

Probably because it wasn't that good. A bit overrated if you ask me.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Kind of a lazy response conserving a lot of people think it was good and not every film that gets in the Oscars is good.

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u/veeDebs69 1d ago

Never understood the love for this. My least favourite tarentino. Just stuck in a cabin the whole movie.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

It’s your opinion but cmon what a silly thing to say. Plenty of good films take place in one location.

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u/veeDebs69 1d ago

Sure. This one isn't one of them. Some people think it's better than Jackie Brown or resouvior dogs. It's asinine. Of course it's a decent movie in relation to most slop. But for QT, it's a disappointment.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

I’m going to have to disagree but that’s fine

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u/at0mheart 1d ago

Man vs nature.

But also the opening 20-30min and flashbacks change it up

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u/Wild_Argument_7007 1d ago

2 noms and a win for score is better than most movies so I’d say it did fine

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Yeah but I’m not talking about whether it did fine? If you read I’m more asking why it missed screenplay and picture.

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u/Wild_Argument_7007 1d ago

It was divisive enough. Idk it’s not that weird to me

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u/Wild_Argument_7007 1d ago

It still got in for supporting actress too like that’s a decent haul

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Yeah but the question is inherently more about why it missed picture and just me ranting about why I thought it deserved it

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u/jshamwow 2d ago

Terrible film

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 2d ago

Gonna have to disagree with you on this. What’d u not like about it?

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u/jshamwow 2d ago

Honestly, I hated every single second of it. I love Tarantino and this feels like what happens when artists get too powerful that people stop telling them no. The long, slow torturous introduction of the characters was so mind numbingly dull to me that by the time anything of substance actually started happening, I had tuned out.

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u/MeadowmuffinReborn 1d ago

The first half hour is introducing several of the characters and their backstories, which is the definition of substantial.

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u/nedbitters 2d ago

Because it tried too hard.

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u/NWSparty 1d ago

Because. It. Sucked. Every Tarantino movie after Pulp Fiction is crap.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

I’m going to heavily disagree with you here.

Also doesn’t really help add anything to the conversation we’re having? By you standards Django and OUATIH sucked but still got noms so what was different about The Hateful Eight.

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u/NWSparty 1d ago

Soak it up. Nonstop use of racial epithets and two hours of gratuitous violence. Uneducated white boys (like Tarantino) are thrilled.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

The film is 3 hours and film is subjective stop trying to lecture me

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u/NWSparty 1d ago

Okay. So add overly long, boring and pretentious to my critique.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Your opinion mate just I feel there’s better ways to get it across and you haven’t added much to the conversation 👍

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u/JHawse 1d ago

I just had a hard time getting into it. He went through all the work of shooting 7mm just to shoot the inside of a one room cabin for 3 hours

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Well that’s the story, did you want them to add extra locations to make it “look better?”

Plenty of great films take place in one location

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u/JHawse 1d ago

More a shame that the incredible things you can show with 70mm but instead the story is in one location. Maybe 70mm for once upon a time in Hollywood could show off the city amazingly

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Yes but if you have the opportunity to use 70mm why not? The shots of the snowy landscape are beautiful.

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u/JHawse 1d ago

I agree 70mm is an amazing opportunity, they just chose the wrong story is all

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 15h ago

I disagree, any film would be slightly upgraded in 70mm.

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u/Own-Negotiation-6307 1d ago

Because it had Channing Tatum in it. That dude stinks up everything!

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Sorry but Blink Twice, Hateful Eight and Foxcatcher are all great

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u/Inside_Atmosphere731 1d ago

Because the first half of the movie is terrible

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u/LusterArgylleCatboy 22h ago

Because it is Tarantino at his most boring

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u/Sufficient-Media3637 12h ago

I didn’t love that movie

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 12h ago

Yeah I think the Academy probably heard that you didn’t like it and decided not to nominate it for best picture

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u/ozankucuk 2d ago

My favorite Tarantino film. I know it is an unpopular opinion.

Should have won something that year. Better than Spotlight for sure.

Revenant and Hateful Eight was the best movies in 2016 in my opinion. One of them should have won best picture.

Also Danish Girl was an incredible film with fantastic acting performances. That was also not nominated for best picture just like Hateful Eight.

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u/Mediocre-Gas-1847 1d ago

Hateful Eights in my top 3 Tarantino films! Although I’m gonna have to disagree with you on The Danish Girl.

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u/MeadowmuffinReborn 1d ago

Agreed. I think that The Hateful Eight is significantly better than The Revenant though.

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u/Mulliganasty 2d ago

Can't convince me that the academy doesn't always withhold affection for QT and Sam Jackson. Hateful 8 is a shit ton better than Room and Brooklyn (and at least as good as all the rest).