Firing at LOC

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u/aaronupright 1d ago

Go get em boys

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u/gsk-fs 1d ago

this isn't funny, BTW,
Most of time they do just to show off and end up with some casualties.
Its all to create a news.
I dont like this cross firing , what u r doing if u can't properly fight, it just temporary and end up with loss of humanity on both sides.

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u/ReaperPlaysYT 1d ago

create news ? the firing was initially from the indian side to which we retaliated and forced them to abandon one of their trucks, which is semi big as they were in their occupational zone

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u/gsk-fs 1d ago

So being very specific, I am getting suspicious now at y OP. 🤨 but its ok.
Is this the only thing ? is it best solution possible ?
or we can building a good communication network between neighbor countries without playing in the international hands (Powers).
This not just for Pakistan, it's for everyone.

What do u say ?

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u/EliSuper2018 1d ago

I think you're being a little naive no offence. As flowery and desirable as it may sound to us common folk, it's just not how the world works. If it's true that the Indians shot first then by all means we need to respond appropriately lest we be considered too soft if we don't and they'll simply be all over us.

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u/gsk-fs 1d ago

Are you sure about that every time its Indians who shoot first ?
Its the international politics.
I respect your response that to immediate response.

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u/EliSuper2018 1d ago

I didn't say that Indians shoot first everytime. All I'm saying is that if they do shoot first then we need to shoot back. Indirectly, this also means that I would never want Pak army to shoot first unless the Indians are in violation of something. Fighting is never desirable but if the moment calls for a fight then it's a fight we must give. Our right to self-defense is enforced by Islam.

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u/gsk-fs 1d ago

now u covered where I already agree, but it didn't mentioned it why because its important to respond.
My actual point of discussion was to highlight, "what we should do after that, to keep everything normal for a longer period and to focus of foreign relations other than fight"

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u/ReaperPlaysYT 1d ago

I dont think I understand what you are trying to say can you phrase it differently ?

What i got was that, the best solution is to talk and go forward with descilation of hostilities

If thats what you are talking about then no, because kashmir issue is not only about the land people but also the water

If india magicly made peace with the kashmiris and they also say we are ok here, even then india has already closed most of the eastern indus tributiries and has flooded us once before

There is no and should never be a compromise with an enemy that is build as a anti you. The whole BJP model is built ontop of suppressing other minorities

Make peace with them, make peace with the butcher of gujrat and the ones who did the mumbay riots and lynch muslims for the assumption, true ir not, that they have beaf

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u/gsk-fs 1d ago

Dont get triggered , I am being straightforward now. You can answer

First , looks like u were being schooled in any Army institution. It yes, its nothing I can do for you, you need to explore Libraries and International affairs.

1- The Talk, both countries needs to play role peace keeping.

2- Its not just India, Pakistan also needs to work toward peace. Specially Pakistani "Establishment" isn't serious to keep everything normal. They dont want to and they'll never.

3- I'm not buying BJP propaganda and playing sympathy card. Govt can work for peace if they are allowed to.

4- Again im not buying any political propaganda. I know what happened and how happened. But at least I study by myself.

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u/ReaperPlaysYT 22h ago edited 21h ago

Before I get into your points why would I be triggered ? we are holding a dialog and an argument if I get triggered at anything but you insulting my intelligence then I am not competent enough to hold a dialog

ok getting into your points

1 Talk ? no because every talks we have held failed plus with this ultra hinduvita government who already hate muslims in india and have made the hate of us from a political problem to a national and generational hatered

2 This is now conflicting since the PTI and the so called youthia claims bajwa wanted IK to make peace with india as in their opinnion Army lumber one, this is just logically wrong.

and if we look at it historically india claims not only AJK but also gilgit baltistan which makes this a further no no

3 I dont get this point of yours, litterly dont rephrase it

Edit: just saw your last point... you are calling me illeterate ? or are you assuming I am ? because I myself have also studied the aforementioned topic rather extensively from many neutral pro and against sources

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u/gsk-fs 21h ago

Okay good to know.
Because I am also seeing some people in thread who dont even have time to share their thoughts except few like urs.

1- there is no friendly nation, everyone has their own priorities and needs. Inside India what is happening its not our first hand responsibility. First we need to focus on ourself.

2- Again I am not buying any political engendered narrative and I am not a political fan. If army want to run this country they need to run like real men. But they are running country and this is a fact since 1947. Army is not trained to do these things.

About AJK and GB, yes India claims that, but does our department is really interested in resolving those issues ? no they are not.
Why ? again it helps them to retain a lot of things in region.

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u/ReaperPlaysYT 21h ago

1 agreed, so your original point for dialog is null since we arent talking on that anymore

2 again agree except the 1947 part, during independence we had a British COAS and after that the army didnt control it, but only after Iskander mirza who butchered our democracy did the army came so that part is plain wrong

3 (AJK and GB) Yes but the difference is the way, you want them to say 'welp we tried you tried boarders are fixed' while both parties want the whole thing

India because rivers and national pride, we rivers national pride our life blood the indus the kashmiri people and the partition injustices

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u/gsk-fs 20h ago

Political roots of this region are really complex, and it doesn't just start from 1947 BTW.
Only one plan which is still working in its original condition:
"Divide and Rule"

2- we dont select our COAS, its been selected indirectly. I dont mean everyone is puppet. But basic hierarchy is same as it was in British India.
Allah hisaab ly ga sab ka kon kitna "Patriotic" tha.

3- (AJK and GB) it's never been about residents, both want to show their dominance. Water is important for both of them, but nobody wants to create a third independent region which AJK or GB people will demand.

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u/BanJlomqvist 1d ago

Keep it up boys. Give em hell!

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u/powerflower_khi 22h ago

Send in a few hundred made in China drones.

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u/ReaperPlaysYT 22h ago

or in PAC, local maal support

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u/powerflower_khi 21h ago

The war in Ukraine is basically a testing ground for 21st-century combat—where drones aren't just an accessory, they're the main act. This isn’t sci-fi anymore. It's real, it's raw, and it’s reshaping warfare in ways we’re just starting to grasp. The sooner Pakistan embraces this cheap and efficient method, the better. Conventional use of bunkers and personal manned based outpost is history.

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u/ReaperPlaysYT 21h ago

brother from PAC I ment drones maid in PAC

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u/Known_Comfortable117 21h ago

Yes those shahpars although not for this role are looking good. Does Pakistan has a drone for suicidal attacks

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u/ReaperPlaysYT 20h ago

yea we used some when afghanistan used art against us

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u/sheikhashir14 19h ago

4 din purani ho gayi hai ye video...

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u/According-Kitchen437 1d ago

What a stupid game they play at the LOC. Wastage of men, money, and resources

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u/Fine_Rice_2979 21h ago

Its funny how even after 4 wars and everything how everytime people of Pak think that Indian army is like their Pakistan army (Unprofessional, running businesses). Seems likes it will still take decades if not centuries for Pakistani people to achieve something.

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u/theStarKindler 20h ago

unprofessional

Posts from the safety of the house, untouched by sworn enemy 10 times larger

Unprofessional

Professionals can be immoral too you know. One's talent or skill has nothing to do with one's evil deeds or lack of morals.

Honestly I despise self haters.

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u/Known_Comfortable117 21h ago edited 18h ago

Indian Army is unprofessional Pakistani army is professional .Which country looses their communication and helicopter in 2019.loosing your communication is basically akin to loosing the war

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u/Fine_Rice_2979 11h ago

Yes its the most professional army in the world which has professionally finished a country!! I wish Pak army controls Pakistan for next 100 years!! Inshaallah

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u/ReaperPlaysYT 20h ago

yea sure, look at 2019 and so on, we fight TTP everyday our ground troops and Frontier officers are way more professional then our Indian counter parts

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u/selfiecat 20h ago

You guys never learn

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u/ReaperPlaysYT 10h ago

you lot fired first

You are about to leave Redlib