r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Peter21237 - Centrist • 1d ago
Satire Reminds me of the diamond hands event.
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u/RaiJolt2 - Lib-Left 1d ago
Libleft went from attacking Elon’s stock to getting upset when everyone’s stock got attacked
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u/daniel_22sss - Lib-Left 22h ago
Elon's stock going to shit is not gonna affect my life. World trade going to shit WILL affect my life.
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u/FyrdUpBilly - Lib-Left 1d ago edited 1d ago
Me? I'm just grabbing the popcorn. Heard from too many Trump voters that stocks were up, thinking they were gonna quit their job and get into trading and bitcoin. LOL! It's hilarious.
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u/thindinkus - Lib-Right 1d ago
People have seriously deluded themselves into thinking that markets being up is a sign of a healthy economy. For the past 20 years we have seen housing prices skyrocket and wages stagnate if not outright decrease in some sectors. What good is the "ticker" being green, if nothing is improving.
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u/Peter21237 - Centrist 1d ago
Its the same with the GDP
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u/TrajanParthicus - Auth-Center 1d ago
If I were to take power, anyone in the administration who says "GDP" would be instantly fired and banned from ever being employed by a public body ever again.
The most insidious metric for measuring a nation's wellbeing I have yet to see.
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u/probablywontrespond2 - Centrist 1d ago
It's so obviously flawed that anyone using it seriously is either being deliberately misleading (that encompasses government officials) or just a straight up moron.
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u/SuperEpicGamer69 - Right 1d ago
It will sometimes tell you if the economy's doing poorly. It will never tell you whether it's actually doing well.
As always, it's not a problem with the statistic but with people using a measure as a target.
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u/SkradTheInhaler - Lib-Left 1d ago
A well known Dutch historian once said that if you want to boost the economy, you should cause a serious car crash. People would need to buy new cars and people would need expensive healthcare. All very good for the economy.
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u/senfmann - Right 21h ago
It's like only using weight to discern if someone is healthy, sure it's an indicator, but you could have the perfect BMI and still die of cancer.
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u/arnkel2 - Centrist 1d ago
While I do agree that having the stock market be green doesn't mean the economy is good having it deeply red almost always results in the economy being bad.
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u/Bartweiss - Lib-Center 1d ago
When line go up, rich people and retirees do good.
When line go down, everyone gets fucked, especially some flavors of blue-collar worker.
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u/Deletesystemtf2 - Centrist 23h ago
You’ve got cause and effect reversed on the second there. Line goes red because economy being bad.
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u/Iceraptor17 - Centrist 1d ago
Agreed that Line being up doesn't necessary mean things are good for everyone.
However, the inverse of "line being very down doesn't mean things are bad" is very untrue.
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u/19andbored22 - Lib-Right 1d ago
Yeah but the issue arise why it red it not red because any of the credit bubble popped or housing market or reckless investment it down due to tariffs so none of the conditions that cause all are problems are changed and now we adding a new probelm which could slide into a recession and if the ither bubble popped due to additional stress we can slide into a depression.
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u/DogNingenn - Auth-Center 1d ago
I barely understand what this means for I am not American, but Do the Evolution being here is based af.
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u/Kodiak_Marmoset - Auth-Right 1d ago
And Jan 6th compared to the entire Summer of Love.
Seems like right wingers are just more consequential in general.
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u/EasilyRekt - Lib-Right 1d ago
Ironic that the one thing conservatives can do well is changing society.
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u/NackAgain - Lib-Left 1d ago
A normal consequence of the end times of this current era. Same thing happened in say, Firenze around the end of the Renaissance and the Bonfire of Vanities, same thing happened in Spain as they lost their empire, same thing happened in Qing China as the century of humiliation started, same thing happened in Eastern Rome with movements like iconoclasts.
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u/RelevantJackWhite - Left 1d ago
consequential? the result was Biden was confirmed despite Trump's best efforts
Jan 6 failed
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u/Kodiak_Marmoset - Auth-Right 1d ago
The entire world watched on national television as politicians shat their pants in fear because a gaggle of boomers took an unguided tour.
BLM burned down their own cities while politicians fiddled.
One of them was far more impactful on the powerful.
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u/Metasaber - Centrist 1d ago
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u/Shadowex3 - Centrist 22h ago
The Capitol Police literally escorted them around for photo ops. Contrast this with over two billion in buildings destroyed, people begging antifa not to burn their children alive, and tens of murders.
Speaking of which if you care so much about insurrections why aren't you up in arms over leftists literally taking over Seattle's Capitol Hill for a month?
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u/Metasaber - Centrist 22h ago
So you're going to ignore the violence and the shooting and cop who died because one section was relatively peaceful?
The DNC didn't invite those riots. Trump incited a riot to try to steal an election he lost. Those riots were ended by Democratic governors sending in the national guard.
CHAZ was stupid. And it was ended by Democrats. What CHAX idiots didn't do was try to overthrow the entire federal government with the explicit approval of the Republican party.
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u/Shadowex3 - Centrist 22h ago
the shooting
You mean the one unarmed person shot by the cops?
cop who died
You mean the guy whose own family said he was perfectly fine and healthy and who died later of unrelated medical issues? Don't you leftists always talk big game about "disinformation"?
The DNC didn't invite those riots.
They literally did. They incited them, encouraged them, and literally funded the rioters up to and including paying for their bail.
Trump incited a riot
Trump requested 100,000 extra security personnel and was denied. The capitol police are on video literally opening the doors and inviting people inside. He literally told people to stop, obey the police, and go home. Repeatedly. Leftists deleted the tweets to prevent anyone from seeing them.
CHAZ was stupid.
So was January 6th. But unlike January 6th CHAZ actually was an armed violent insurrection that seized control of a state capitol and declared secession from the United States. They then proceeded to rule by violence for the next month.
Change your flair, you're clearly far left.
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u/Metasaber - Centrist 21h ago
Federal buildings will be defended with lethal force. Bitch was told to stop and she didn't.
No they didn't. You're fucking lying.
He literally said "fight like hell or you won't have a country left" after saying Biden stole the election. It doesn't matter that he changed his mind his own advisors had to beg him for hours to call off the riots. Extra security wouldn't have been needed if he conceded that he lost. The video you replied to is them literally crushing a man trying to force the doors.
Being centrist doesn't mean I agree with half and half. The American right is fucking insane and is only becoming more and more radical. Them moving the mean doesn't change the actual middle.
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u/Shadowex3 - Centrist 2h ago
Federal buildings will be defended with lethal force. Bitch was told to stop and she didn't.
Then why deny the request for an extra 100k law enforcement? Why undo the magnetic locks that would've kept the building as a veritable fortress? Why open the doors and invite people inside and then give them escorted tours to find good photo op locations?
No they didn't. You're fucking lying.
"There needs to be unrest in the streets"
"Protestors should not let up"
"If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere"
"I just don't know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be."
I'm not lying, but you definitely are. And as is typical for the far left you're projecting your lying onto me.
Being centrist doesn't mean I agree with half and half.
You aren't a centrist in the slightest, you're hardcore auth left.
The American right is fucking insane and is only becoming more and more radical.
The American Left caused over two billion dollars in destruction to primarily poor and minority neighborhoods, to the point people were literally begging for their children's lives. They're literally forcing Jews to hide in attics again and have even taken hostages during their violent anti-Jewish riots.
You are "becoming more and more radical" and because of that you think more and more people are becoming right and moving further right. The reality is it's redshifting caused by how fast you're being radicalized by the auth left.
...moving the mean doesn't change the actual middle.
Exactly. You becoming so radicalized and disinformed you think anyone who isn't to the left of the Khmer Rouge is "fucking insane" doesn't actually make it true.
The fact you're deluded and disinformed into believing you're a centrist instead of a far fringe-left radical is proof of just how much control the left has over academia and media.
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u/bugme143 - Lib-Right 16h ago
So you're going to ignore the violence and the shooting
Sure, just like you leftists ignore the Summer of Love.
What CHAX idiots didn't do was try to overthrow the entire federal government
You'll be surprised to learn that there were multiple occasions where leftist protestors stormed their local capitol and took it over. You'll also be surprised to learn that their punishments were a slap on the wrist.
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u/senfmann - Right 21h ago
The entire world watched on national television as politicians shat their pants in fear because a gaggle of boomers took an unguided tour.
Regardless of political stance, this needs to happen more often. Politicians in the West became too comfortable in their "modern aristocracy" positions. Sometimes the people need to show them what a guillotine is (not using it, just show them how sharp it can be)
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u/RelevantJackWhite - Left 1d ago edited 1d ago
that's interesting, because i live in portland, and it hasn't burned down
Edit: y'all are strange downvoting me for living in Portland
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u/Fif112 - Centrist 1d ago
I’m sorry but the portrayal of Jan 6th as an “unguided tour” is both pathetic and disgusting.
5 people died.
You’re absolutely fucking retarded and thoroughly brainwashed
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u/yaboichurro11 - Centrist 1d ago
Arguing this in PCM is a lost cause bud.
The BLM riots were "cities were razed to the ground! Nothing was left of Minneapolis once they were done! Actually, the city isn't even on the map anymore, it's called Floydtown now and it's a mash up a failing commune and CHAZ"
But January 6th were a group of mall walking boomers just going for a little stroll and nothing ever happened.
These people have bought into team politics so much it's made them truly retarded.
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u/Fif112 - Centrist 1d ago
Doesn’t mean I won’t stop.
Maybe someone will listen
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u/yaboichurro11 - Centrist 1d ago
Fair enough! Good luck super soldier 🫡.
Although, I still maintain that comparing the BLM riots to january 6th coup attempt is incredibly stupid.
They are extremely different situations with just as different terrible outcomes for the US.
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u/Platinirius - Auth-Left 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well unlike the Left, Right actually has massive political control and has large parties dedicated to broader right wing agenda.
Look at the left in USA aka. the Proggresive Wing of Democratic Party in USA. Joe Biden presidency literally was, we will be centrist and sit on an egg. Then Trump wins and most of Democratic Party is, we need to move right on social issues. Then the Democrats move on economic issues primarily rightwards and they become more unpopular. And they still like an egg. The Left doesn't even have a proper party since the Democrats do not even hold their interests into account.
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u/Natural_Battle6856 - Auth-Left 1d ago
The democrats is so pathetic that it's not even funny.
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u/Platinirius - Auth-Left 1d ago
It is genuinely one of the mentally weakest political parties ever in history.
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u/TrajanParthicus - Auth-Center 1d ago
Well unlike the Left, Right actually has massive political control
Virtually every single institution, the media, the arts, big business, academia, and the civil service are overwhelmingly left-wing.
The Left doesn't even have a proper party since the Democrats do not even hold their interests into account.
Well, you've got that right since Democrats decided that embracing uncontrolled mass immigration in order to virtue signal was more important than fighting to improve the material conditions of the working class.
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u/Platinirius - Auth-Left 1d ago edited 1d ago
Disagree.
The media? Mainstream media is fucking dead the largest traditional media outlet Fox is literally known for supporting Trump quite openly, and alternative media on the internet, well let's just say if we put Hasan Piker the largest left wing online figure with its measly 2,8 milion followers against Andrew Tate who had 9,9 milion followers it's clear who has the upper hand and Tate got to his hiatus in much shorter time period.
The Arts - yes, though CEO of arts are right wing which in modern era rather equalise the dynamic
Big business - they do what benefits them, right, left don't give a shit. Use a combination of both to earn as much money as possible. But for themselves they are Libright and they think of themselves as Libright. So I give them Libright status like 99% of the populace.
Academia - kinda, academia circles are overwhelmingly liberal, but trust me as a leftie there is nothing than your academic hates more than any radical direction.
Civil Service - yes since they are feeded by the state why should they be against them getting kicked, that being said similiar to academia they do hate the left if it starts to meddle into their affairs. That being said your average Joe hates bureaucrats and will agree with the opposite they say so I don't give a shit.
I'm so sick of hearing this, Left is in control bullshit. Since I've heard it so fucking long and it never was true and now it's less true than it was before. It's literally what Francoists and Dixiecrats were saying in the 60s and what Apartheid South Africa said also in a dictatorship they controlled. Sorry for the outburst but I genuinely believe there is a subgroup of people who will literally say it for as long as Media exists since it moves overton window and its fucking cringe. Atleast your average stupid retarded Maoist thinks Mao was genuinely leftist. I found it particularly soy and woke from the right.
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u/Duckmeister - Auth-Left 1d ago
Any company, corporation, group, or person that is openly conservative is notable because they are the exception. Everyone else doesn't have to be openly liberal because they are ASSUMED to be liberal by default. That is what people mean when they say that every institution is leftist. You are literally picking examples of the exceptions to the rule and and pretending that they don't highlight the rule itself.
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u/Platinirius - Auth-Left 1d ago
But Liberalism isn't leftism. Liberalism is centrist. Proggresivism is leftist against Conservatism that's rightist.
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u/Duckmeister - Auth-Left 1d ago
These are merely labels. First, you have to take into account that the majority of people conflate "left" and "liberal". I specifically chose the word "liberal" in my post. We may know the difference ourselves but we can't judge other people for semantic differences that they happen to be unaware of.
Second, it may be that this conflation between "left" and "liberal" is deliberate on behalf of the institutions we are talking about. It is a perfectly valid question to ask, "Why would a profit-seeking corporation support 'marxist' ideas?", this is obviously a direct contradiction. My answer is that these institutions support the symbols that have become associated with marxism in an attempt to fool the public, and there is a vast difference between the symbols and the real thing.
Third, these symbols over time have supplanted and completely replaced the actual politics of the left. When people claim that institutions are controlled by the left, they are referring to the fact that these institutions are obsessed with these symbols. There is a very famous tweet: "If you call yourself leftist, you can get away with embracing non-socialist economic positions, and won't be kicked out of the club by peers. You can not get away with not affirming black worship, trannyism, and replacement migration. Therefore, that is what leftism is."
So while we can have an academic poli-sci discussion about the definitions and categories and such, we can also look at the reality that the public engages with the "left" on these terms. Here's a helpful way of looking at the left vs. right today: one group is terrified of being accused of white supremacy, while the other has been accused of it so often that they no longer care. Wouldn't you agree that the vast majority of media, businesses, personalities, and other institutions are firmly in the first category?
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u/Platinirius - Auth-Left 1d ago
That's a good argument, thank you.
I will say this. On it. I never actually give a shit about symbolism. I do find symbolism as mere distractions. A grift to be said. What I do I care about is beliefs behind that grift.
Because if we take grift as a given coin. Then the grifter will play circles around us. The big companies have managers created to grift so they grift. They will at the same time wave LGBTI flags and Black Lives Matter flags and then at the same time, wave Dont Tread on me flags and define themselves as pro MAGA. And let's be real here big businesses do not do business because they want to support the gays. They do to make money.
And about anti-capitalist messaging trust me, I've seen a lot of old movies a shit ton of even western movies in 60s in the 50s in the 70s had more anti-capitalist messaging than modern Hollywood would ever allow. Trust me being anti-capitalist isn't allowed that's a red flag by liberals. I know it because I know a lot of lefties that got banned over it. Do you think Liberals will anger their Corporate sponsors, you've literally said corporations love liberals. You want me to say that big businesses and state politicians, want to secretly end capitalism achieve and equal society from the shadows and end their wealth willingly. That sounds stupid.
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u/RelevantJackWhite - Left 1d ago
it's not "overwhelmingly left-wing" just because you disagree with it, buddy
Big business is left wing? give your head a shake
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u/Traditional_Mix7277 - Centrist 1d ago
Trump committed Jihad with the economy
May allah bless him with 1000 virgins
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u/Quicklythoughtofname - Left 1d ago
Um actually, collapsing the economy is just a 4D chess move to destroy the elite
I wanted redistributed wealth, not no wealth
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u/Peter21237 - Centrist 1d ago
Maybe thats why one end up being a pety parade and did nothing for their own cause and the other made the top sweat.
¯\(ツ)/¯
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u/Quicklythoughtofname - Left 1d ago
Are they sweating because it's good for us, or because it's bad for everyone including them? That's kind of an important question.
I'd rather ineffective action over... this.
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u/Peter21237 - Centrist 1d ago
They are sweating because its bad for them.
The joke about this schizo meme was about the both sides attacking their enemy. One leaving more dent to the target than the other, not that one is good or bad above the other or will make an utopia afterwards. :v
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u/arnkel2 - Centrist 1d ago
Is it bad for them? The rich got richer after 2008 and 2020 during huge stock market crashes while the middle and lower classes stagnated.
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u/Irregular_Radical - Right 1d ago
Government bailouts stopped it from effecting the rich. Since rich people have majority of their money in assets, they lack lots of liquid capitol. They borrow against their assets to get get liquid and avoid paying taxes on capitol gains from selling assets. They pay the loans by getting more loans from other banks, and thanks to the collateral banks aren't worried.
When banks are bailed out, those rich people remain completely unefected because they can still borrow money, and still have assets.
When banks aren't bailed out. Suddenly there's a problem. The banks have no money to give, the assets being borrowed against are losing value. While the banks may be gone the debt can be bought. Now the rich people have lots of debt, that their assets can't cover, and they don't have a choice but to sell their assets off because banks won't be willing to Loan them enough money to pay off their debts with the stock they have.
Banks are effected, because they essentially do the same thing as rich people, and are in tones of debt with assets as collateral.
Sry if I get anything wrong, this was a quick explanation.
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u/Iceraptor17 - Centrist 1d ago edited 1d ago
The top isn't sweating that hard. Yeah they're not thrilled, but they're gonna be the ones who weather this the best. Every time there's a recession, there's almost always a wealth transfer upwards as those wealthy have the resources to get by and then snap up resources that are now "on sale".
The rich got richer in 08. They got richer in 2020. It is far more likely the working class and small to medium size business owners ends up taking this on the chin
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u/TrajanParthicus - Auth-Center 1d ago
And let me guess, you'll be one of those who gets to decide to whom the wealth is distributed, and in what amounts?
How about letting people make their own choices. I'd rather Jeff Bezos makes billions by providing a product that hundreds of millions of people want to voluntarily us than one's material condition being entirely based on connections with the ruling political class.
Remember, folks, beneath every piece of leftist virtue signalling is an unalloyed contempt for the working class, and a complete willingness to believe that they are incapable of making rational choices in their own interests.
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u/Quicklythoughtofname - Left 1d ago
And let me guess, you'll be one of those who gets to decide to whom the wealth is distributed, and in what amounts?
To an extent, I guess?
I just want a wealth tax used to pay for healthcare instead of letting insurance assfuck us. That alone will redistribute a ton of wealth.
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u/TrajanParthicus - Auth-Center 1d ago
Wealth taxes have proven to be counterproductive every single time they've been implemented.
France implemented one a few years ago, and it just drove wealthy French out of the country, and the overall tax receipts went down.
Been said once, been said a million times, the wealthy can afford to move abroad if you make it untenable for them to remain with sky-high, ideologically driven, punitive taxes.
The burden of new gibs that the government has promised now fall on those who actually chose to remain, who respond by curtailing investment and cutting staff numbers, all of which, as always, affects the working class the most.
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u/Scanningdude - Lib-Left 1d ago
Lmao no…I want a free market. Like an actual free market, without the single dumbest leftwing economic policy there is but I guess y’all are more intelligent than me so I’m sure this will work out well. Much better than bidens economy I’m sure, no doubt. I’m a retarded liberal and don’t know what good economic policy is👍🏻
Oh and I’m sure Kamala would’ve forced through a capital gains tax without going through congress that would’ve obviously shot it down. Yeah I’m sure she would’ve done that without congress’s approval.
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u/thestouthearted - Lib-Center 1d ago
You wanted redestributed imaginary funny numbers, those funny numbers are being lit up right now.
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u/NuclearOrangeCat - Auth-Center 1d ago
Lefties now
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u/Kirbz_- - Centrist 1d ago
SMH at least make it non-AI slop
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u/NuclearOrangeCat - Auth-Center 1d ago
Call the cops I dont give a fuck
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u/Kirbz_- - Centrist 1d ago
You give off insane navy seals copypasta vibes I can’t lmao, you ain’t him lil bro
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u/NuclearOrangeCat - Auth-Center 1d ago
tf I wrote one sentence and to you thats a copy pasta? Centrists are so retarded
"lil bro" lol ok zoomer, very cute
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u/Kirbz_- - Centrist 1d ago
I’m referring to the fact that you sound fucking desperate to be the “super though manly man who doesn’t care about other people”. Like jfc “call the cops on me idgaf”? I would expect that from an edgy teenager who just learned what swear words are lmao. As I said, you ain’t him, and you trying to be him just makes you look more desperate homie
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u/Knirb_ - Right 1d ago
Lil bro is so desperate to be the guy that tells other guys they aren’t him
You aren’t him lil bro
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u/NuclearOrangeCat - Auth-Center 1d ago
Did you just reply to yourself on an alt? Lol wtf
Talk about desperate
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u/daniel_22sss - Lib-Left 22h ago
Ah, yes, whats a better way to fix things than just burn the whole ship down.
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u/NuclearOrangeCat - Auth-Center 22h ago
Ah, yes
Reddit moment
Into the 🗑️🚮 you go. Go defend third world slavery to get your cheap goods at the expense of our future elsewhere.
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u/Kirbz_- - Centrist 1d ago
Ive seen the guy on the right before, where is he from?
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u/Peter21237 - Centrist 1d ago
"Do the evolution"
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u/Kirbz_- - Centrist 1d ago
Aw RIP I was hoping it was some type of show cause I really liked how the animation looked. Fire song though
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u/Peter21237 - Centrist 1d ago
Same. I love that type of animation
Search for "Heavy Metal (1981) B-17 its also good animation.
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u/whosadooza - Lib-Center 1d ago
This isn't attacking wall street. This is attacking the economy directly. Wall street is just the tip of the ice berg. The corner store on main street is paying these tariffs, too. Those place you do have producing things around town are about to lay a lot of people off when these prices hit them one way or another.
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u/Kirbo_Lord - Lib-Left 1d ago
Sure bro, tariffs were definitely meant to ‘own the rich’. Why would the president whose friends with the richest guy in the world fuck his own group? Rich people wont be affected all that much
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u/FellowFellow22 - Right 1d ago
Well of course we aren't trying to. It was an accident, but we're doing it and I don't understand why you're complaining.
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u/andyrew21345 - Lib-Center 1d ago
Wow that’s just a stunningly retarded take lol.
Oopsie poopsie we did a blanket tariff over the entire world and now everything is getting expensive as fuck. Why are you mad at us?
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u/Character-Bed-641 - Auth-Center 1d ago
based and schizophrenia pilled?