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u/MrProfessorMD 1d ago
Please do not vandalize public property and blow up cars. If you want to stick it to Trump and Elon focus on making this city and state a shining example of what America can be like when run by progressives. Clean, safe, creative, welcoming to everyone etc... I have no idea why people think destroying property in a democratic city in a democratic state is some effective form of protest.
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u/threebillion6 1d ago
But I'm angry now!
Edit: and I have no healthy way of expressing it so I take it out on public property. Whaaaa
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u/Local_Bridge1028 15h ago
I’m mad at Tesla so I’m going to deface… public transit! Let’s punish our city’s public transit company for the evil deeds of a car company owner 😎
Go find an actual Cyberteuck, deface that, and leave my bus stop alone. They’re not hard to find and their owners actually deserve the hate.
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u/cptcronic SW 1d ago
I love how everyone thinks that they are the one who gets to decide what is an isn't a protest. I'm not your mom, do whatever you want and suffer whatever consequences there are for those actions. I would not dictate to a person whether or not their actions qualify as a protest.
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u/DismalNeighborhood75 1d ago
Someone scratched an anti-Putin/trump message into wet cement on a sidewalk near my house and now I’ll have to see it long after they’re gone.
Trump got what, 20 percent of the vote here? It’s okay to criticize stupid forms of protest.
Go do this shit in Battle Ground if you want members of his cult to see it
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u/Poobaloo87 1d ago
This! But bonus points if you go to historically conservative states and fuck shit up there
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u/MrDangerMan 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lol I love that this sub thinks that “be nice and keep your neighborhood real pretty” isn’t just as useless a strategy as “scrawl slogan on bus stop” for combatting a fascist, authoritarian state power.
Edit: I have zero problem being downvoted by the same people upvoting such vapid platitudes as "stick it to Trump and Musk by being the bigger person" lol.
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u/Important-Worker9091 1d ago edited 1d ago
I wholeheartedly disagree with this take.
First off, If this bus stop is in fact “public property” in the way you’ve asserted then why should the public not be allowed to adorn it any way they see fit? If this bloke were seen slapping this instruction up there though he’d certainly have been prosecuted.
Maybe when State and Federal jurisdictions start enacting legislation that protects kids in school against the threat of gun violence or they properly prosecute any one of the thousand cops who’s used “excessive force” with the same veracity they show towards deterring property damage then MAYBE your argument holds water. Maybe. But until then, I say State Owned Property (which is what this really is) is the perfect place for messages of protest like this.
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u/16semesters 1d ago
First off, If this bus stop is in fact “public property” in the way you’ve asserted then why should the public not be allowed to adorn it any way they see fit?
This can't be a serious statement.
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u/Important-Worker9091 1d ago
As a heart attack my friend. Property is inherently theft.
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u/16semesters 1d ago
Property is inherently theft.
Sigh.
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u/Important-Worker9091 1d ago
It’s hard for the colonized mind to comprehend.
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u/elevatedmongoose Mt Tabor 1d ago
Ugh go back to tiktok with that crap
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u/Important-Worker9091 1d ago
Never tried it. Is decolonization a big topic of discussion over there?
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u/PDXBeerFan Lents 1d ago
My guess: OP is a Cybertruck owner.
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u/BornFullRetard 1d ago
What a silly takeaway. Democrats used to praise Tesla and Elon specifically just 4 years ago and are now blind as bats to that fact. Lots of the Cybertrucks that are being driven currently were on preorder from 2019 and delivered in 2023 before Elon showed his true colors glazing Trump. So democrats in a democratic city in a democrat state are attacking Tesla owners that could very likely have the same political views as them. And on top of that graffitiing public property that is going to have to be cleaned by trimet workers who get a big chunk of their payroll from our taxes.
Stopping traffic on I-5 in a city where the majority of the people already agree with you is another example of democrats doing protests to show others their support but not actually change anything and end up causing the people of the city to actually resent the movement because you made them late for work or stop traveling where they were heading. In some cases we see them hit the vehicles or yell at the drivers who again, likely agree with the movement. In this case, it would be the people having their taxes go to vandalism cleanup efforts instead of allocating those funds more efficiently.
But carry on, OP owns a cyber truck..
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u/allislost77 1d ago
When did anyone “praise” Elon Musk that was a self proclaimed “Democrat”? Honest question?
Also? So any form of protest that’s against your views is automatically a Democrat?
You realize there are many kinds of political affiliations and a lot more that don’t prescribe to one side or another, right?
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u/elevatedmongoose Mt Tabor 1d ago
Tbf musk started showing his appreciation for the right back when Trump was first elected. It's been a slow but steady decline ever since
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u/PDXBeerFan Lents 1d ago
Just to be clear, I've always thought he was a piece of shit and I've always hated Teslas. Sorry I hurt your feelings though.
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u/SIRETE 21h ago
Ah yes let's vandalize public property and commit domestic terrorism, that'll show them 🤦♂️
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u/Important-Worker9091 20h ago
No you’re right we should sit idolly by while white nationalists dismantle our democracy and replace it with a Fascist Christian ethno-state. Or wait don’t tell me, you’d suggest that we “go vote,” right? Or maybe make a kitschy sign and march down the streets with everyone else that voted for Kamala. Yess, because those things have proven ever so effective./s
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u/Ibushi-gun 1d ago
How did the passive liberals turn into this? Why are they painting hate symbols onto things? Bad look, imo. I hope you’re all bots because this just makes you look terrible as humans.
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u/oregonbub 1d ago
What’s the hate symbol?
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u/Ibushi-gun 1d ago
It was just me venting in the moment I saw the post, which I need to avoid doing. What I was talking about is some of the Teslas got scratched with hate symbols into them. From my point of view I'm like, "back in my day, doing that made you very bad person, so what is that sort of thing praised by people say the side with the Left. But it's not, it's the 12 people I saw on a Social Media site out the millions of people who say they are on the Left. Which is why I hope all the stupid comments I see praising that sort of stuff are just bots on here making us all angry at each other. Have a good weekend
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u/allislost77 1d ago
In your mind there’s only two sides…right? Because someone disagrees you slap a liberal/lefty label.
You realize there a LOT MORE people who don’t even prescribe to the “left vs right” rhetoric. It’s not black and white.
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u/Pitiful_Yogurt_5276 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’d chalk this up to drunken stupidness or fetanyl head skipping down the street to be edgy.
Calling this a hate symbol makes you seem realllllly fragile bud.
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u/Ibushi-gun 1d ago
I’m talking about the Nazi symbols on the Teslas I’ve seen around the Net. Bad taste, imo. Bad look for them that isn’t doing them any favors at all. It hurts the good things they’re trying to do. Could be just bad actors, and it could be bots upvoting them all on social media. But you’re right, that doesn’t have to do with this topic. I just get frustrated when I see them sink this low.
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u/Pitiful_Yogurt_5276 1d ago
Fair albeit my frustration is largely directed at the actual Nazis and Musk himself
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u/Yesus_mocks 1d ago
Man these anti Nazi and anti facists sure seem to act so very much like the people they purport to be totally against. When was the last time you saw anything Nazi or facist carved or painted into anything except in a nasty rest stop bathroom stall.
Due to current revelations it seems those bathroom graffiti and anything else you may have encountered were likely done by these “moral minded total individualist scholars” all along??!!
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u/shit-i-love-drugs Protesting 16h ago
I’ve seen infowars stickers, proud boy graffiti, and plenty of swastikas carved into shit. Hell there’s even a dude who post pro trump graff on some of the tagging subs.
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u/IPinedale 1d ago
If you smack 'em just right, they firebomb themselves!