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u/Usakami 1d ago
"Word homeless is a lie"... Wow, galaxy brain genius... Homeless just means, wait for it, without a home, as in doesn't have a stable roof over their head.
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u/Easy_Drawer4773 1d ago
If you assume they are all violent drug addicts, it’s easier to justify doing anything to them.
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u/Senior_Torte519 1d ago
what year did homelessness change? Were Hoovervilles just filled with the drug addicts and mentally ill?
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u/SubstantialSet1246 10h ago
It changed in the 90s when Clinton closed the hospitals for mental health care. People had no place to go for help since the so called community housing didn’t happen. It’s criminal.
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u/InteractionNo6653 7h ago
1981 Ronald Regan, check it out.
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u/SubstantialSet1246 7h ago
Whoever did it was wrong wrong wrong. People had art music fresh air and therapy. Then nothing.
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u/Flashy_Ground_4780 1d ago
You have to remember Elon is a drug addict with a mental illness
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u/Kaellpae1 21h ago
So Elon is homeless by his own definition?
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u/Tekkaddraig 17h ago
I'm sure he'll claim some sort of government grant for that to get himself a few extra million
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u/KookyAnteater591 1d ago
Fuck President Skum.
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u/LinkOnPrime 6h ago
It's funny that this is the level of discourse that gets a lot of upvotes on Reddit. Says alot about the "intelligence" of most people on this platform.
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u/cantchang3me 1d ago
So he can sleep at night. I don't think he has a conscious, to be honest. I don't know how you could ... just shit on so many human beings on feel ok.
I guess that's why he sleeps with a loaded 357 next to his bed. He's gonna need it some day.
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u/NoRelation2573 1d ago
And why he carries little Kevlar on his head everywhere he goes
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u/hurricaneRoo1 23h ago
Kæv1ar is a weird name for a child, but none of the names Elon gives his children surprise me.
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u/b-rad_ 1d ago
The insane lies and propaganda that Elon puts out is nuts.
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u/ShaantHacikyan 1d ago
Kind of like the insane lie and propaganda that 20 billion can end homelessness?
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u/Next_Poem7318 1d ago
Could just straight up buy houses for all of them for that. So ya it’s not a lie, we just refuse to actually help people but would rather spend twice as much money on bootstraps
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u/DJ_Fuckknuckle 1d ago
I think that's a solution for some, but not everyone. Some people's circumstances would make that problematic without more extensive support systems.
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u/Next_Poem7318 1d ago
Yep a combo of houses and apartment with a live in nurses and psychologists, could probably still afford all that for 20 billion.
They thing no one talks about is how there aren’t very many homeless people, our society just hates helping people if we feel they don’t “deserve” it
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u/QuestionableIdeas 14h ago
Of course! If we decide that someone hasn't performed some nebulous task that allows them to earn a basic level of respect or dignity then it becomes much easier to treat them badly
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u/Caedyn_Khan 22h ago
$20 billion could house those just cut out on their luck and send the others to rehab, psych wards, or prison.
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u/dingo_khan 19h ago
They've done the numbers, like repeatedly. They have varied from 20 to 40 billion, as I have seen, based on the economic conditions and amount of support provided.
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u/turtle-bbs 1d ago
Villainizing the homeless, calling empathy a “weakness”, openly mocking and taking joy in ruining other people’s careers while whining when others laugh at your business tanking, openly bribing voters to support a certain candidate, using your child as a human shield, making fun of your other child for popularity points, never being present for your remaining children’s lives, cheating on his wives.
How much more obvious does it need to be for republicans to turn on this guy? Does God have to put a bright billboard on his forehead declaring that he’s an astronomically wicked douchebag before it clicks?
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u/DJ_Fuckknuckle 1d ago
The people who are watching all of that happening and laughing in delight are the kind of people who see deliberate cruelty, sadism, selfishness, incuriousness, a complete lack empathy for anyone outside of their immediate family, and endless insatiable greed as desirable virtues in themselves and their chosen leaders.
Many of them actually call themselves Christian. Many of them have spent half a lifetime watching and waiting for the appearance of the Antichrist. In a delicious twist of irony, they're now gleefully serving him.
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u/Ambitious_Juice_2352 1d ago
"Propaganda" and "Homeless" - wonders never cease from this shit-stain.
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u/Puzzled-Ad2295 1d ago
I suspect that he needs none of that to sleep at night. He , like Trump only care about themselves.
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u/bearssuperfan 1d ago
Did Elon ever consider that people with mental illness often develop drug addictions and thus end up homeless, so we could try to address mental illness???
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u/nightmareinsouffle 23h ago
That and a lot of people who end up homeless aren’t drug addicts at the beginning, but they become that after awhile.
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u/thewereotter 17h ago
Also add onto that the stress and dehumanization of being homeless can create mental illness in itself, and then these people end up self medicating with street drugs and alcohol
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u/Ok-Appearance-3165 22h ago
20 billion ??? Didnt california get 4 billion to fight homelessness and it just got worst ??
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u/darkhorsehance 6h ago
That’s an oversimplification. There were problems fixed, problems that got worse and new problems created which is what happens anytime you throw billions of dollars at an issue.
Having said that, the 20 billion number has been thrown around a lot for several years and that is also oversimplifying an incredibly complex problem because it’s not a problem that can be solved with just money, especially when dealing with the very small percentage of homeless people that Elmo was referencing.
The biggest problem with homelessness is the way people understand and talk about it, which is largely the same way the space chode does.
https://moneyzine.com/personal-finance/homelessness-statistics/
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u/JoePeesie 22h ago
So even if he’s right what’s his solution just let them keep wondering around suffering, perhaps having them put down would be more cost efficient than getting them help with the problems that caused their homelessness
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u/moch1 1d ago
Fuck Elon but homelessness will not be fixed with $20 billion. Spreading fake info is not helpful.
California alone has spent $24 billion over the last 5 years. We still have plenty of homeless in California.
https://ktla.com/news/california/heres-how-much-california-spends-on-each-homeless-person/
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u/Next_Poem7318 1d ago
Ya but if they just spent that on actual housing instead of trying to design the perfect maze to get people to pull up their own bootstraps
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u/LinkOnPrime 6h ago
Go ask a homeless person... better yet... go get to know some. There is a very high likelihood that if you ask them, they will tell you they PREFER to remain homeless.
Buying that person a house isn't going to fix their situation.
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u/Kate-2025123 1d ago
Per year
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u/moch1 1d ago
So California spends roughly $5 billion per year. Washington state spends $1 billion. New York State spends $4 billion. We’re already at $10 billion in annual spending and we’re only talking about 3 states and ignoring federal spending. The federal governement spends another $10 billion on homeless services. That’s not including the $53 billion the federal governement already spends on housing assistance to prevent people from becoming homeless.
So looking at the federal and 3 state spending we’re looking at over $70 billion annually just in the US. You are not ending homelessness with a mere $20 billion annually.
https://citylimits.org/heres-how-nycs-101-billion-budget-addresses-homelessness/
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u/CardOk755 13h ago
In the six months before becoming homeless, their median household income was just $960 per month, the UCSF researchers found.
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u/Rrrrandle 1d ago
Great, so if Elon is right, we should spend the same amount of money on housing and treatment for these people, right? Because leaving them in the streets doesn't seem like a great idea for anyone.
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u/DavieStBaconStan 1d ago
lol, at assuming Musk has any trouble sleeping at night. Musk is pure evil, he has no conscience.
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u/B1ZEN 1d ago
Yeah, Elons statement was absurd, but also, we have spent tens of billions already on homelessness, and it only got worse. I started a Outreach and Advocacy organization a few years ago to help the homeless, addicted, mentally ill, in poverty and who have suffered under systemic and domestic violence and the things I had seen the government and "charities" doing with tax dollars and donations was horrific. There is a solution, but 20 billion going through the hands of government is definitely not the answer.
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u/DJ_Fuckknuckle 1d ago
Seriously, how would we go about reconstructing charities into orgs that are actually effective? What would need to happen to make that work?
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u/Illustrious_Cat_6490 1d ago edited 1d ago
They're entrepreneurs have to eat they don't escape the hustle they build same damn thing we do on a smaller scale
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u/Sartres_Roommate 1d ago
SOME homeless are violent drug addicts with mental illness…..so what are WE going to do about it?
We have tried just letting them suffer on the street until they become a problem for the law, expensively arrest, try, and jail them for a bit but then they are right back on the street, if anything worse of a public endangerment issue because of the process.
What’s next? You can jail them for longer which is only going to cost us MORE money and STILL leave us with a violent drug addict with mental issues who is less and less committed to giving F’s about being jailed.
Definition of insanity to do the same thing over and over expecting different results. Worse so when OTHER COUNTRIES are doing different things and getting far better results.
The problem has less to do with a lack of compassion (although there is tons of that), but America refusing to recognize that “capitalism” is not magic. It doesn’t fix all problems and it does actually create its own problems that, if left unaddressed, will fester and eat capital resources. To provide compassionate mental health services on the tax payers dime (for less money than jailing them) admits that government IS good for something that capitalism and profit motives can’t do.
It is TO ADMIT that when you set up the game of capitalism, the fundamental force of it is; there are “winners” AND “losers”. The losers cannot always “pick themselves up by their bootstraps”….especially if they have no bootstraps to begin with. The losers are sometimes left broken or were broken to begin with.
To help the homeless and marginalized is to admit capitalism left them in its wake. It is to admit the magic of capitalism is a myth.
It is far easier to just label them violent and lazy and move on with your capitalism fantasy…..until the stench of shit in the street and the overwhelming amount of “crazy” vagrants make your life uncomfortable.
……then we gotta “up the violence until these lazy fucks finally, like a dog, learn their lesson for once." That is the stage Mush is trying to push us into. The only solution not mentioned, but is clearly being pushed for when such dehumanization is happening, is know by history as the Final Solution.
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u/Popular-Increase2222 1d ago
The government just got caught spending 45billion on connecting broadband to rural area. Not one house got connected! Not one!!!! The government of the people could have ended homelessness twice! 45 billion not one house connected
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u/Visual_Virus_2062 1d ago
And he’ll never offer to help. These fucks with all this money could do so much for humanity, but they don’t. And most won’t.
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u/Fine-Funny6956 1d ago
Then 20 billion would end violent drug addicts with severe mental illness.
I feel like he just made it more valuable to spend the money.
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u/Just-a-bi 1d ago
Remember, the number of homeless veterans is doubled their percentage of the population.
About 6% of the u.s are veterans.
About 13% of homeless are veterans.
Not to mention, many are also orphans that outgrew the system.
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u/Hot-Sauce-P-Hole Special Snowflake ❉ 1d ago
Yep. Watch out for the propaganda arm of the Big Homeless industry. FFS.
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u/iammonkeyorsomething 1d ago
My republican family members say wild shit like that all the time lmao
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u/Strange_Diva 1d ago
My brother made a comment like this when we were teenagers, and now he’s in his 50s homeless, and sleeping on people’s couches. Karma is patient.
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u/Glittering_Owl_poop 1d ago
Now we know what his parents have been saying about him behind the scenes. It's almost sad. Sounds like this is a real fear for him.
Shelon, Bozo, Suckerberg and the rest of them need to go. Take back our country from these oligarchs! Tax them into oblivion.
If this were a video game, their player class would have been nerfed for being so out of balance. Stop helping them cheat, let's bring balance back to the system.
PAY US BACK! Tesla, Starlink, Space X were all built on the subsidies from the US Taxpayers. Shelon's the largest welfare queen ever. Also, Amazon and so many more. No more bailouts either! There's no such thing as too big to fail.
Everyone needs to demand that any company receiving bailouts, subsidies, or grants pay back any and all $$ before shareholders or leadership bonuses.
Impeach/ recall all "elected officials" who are enabling this administration--REP/DEM both! (if you can) Remind them who they work for! Protest them daily and hourly at their offices. Make life as difficult and uncomfortable for them as possible. Schedule town meetings and demand they attend, if they don't, move ahead with a recall process.
We need to resist in ways both large and small. Any of you who come into contact with any of these people in the course of your day, do your best to make it uncomfortable for them. Of course, save your most petty ideas for those higher up the chain. I'm sure you can think of something. We need to remind everyone associated with this mess that they live in society with the rest of us.
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u/Icy-Needleworker-492 23h ago
He could sleep at night if hundreds of starving children were camped out on his lawn.
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u/jaakrabbit 22h ago
The US spends just over 11 billion a year between the government and non-profits, so if the 20 billion was actually accurate, why do we still have homelessness?
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u/WastedNinja24 20h ago
If I could end homelessness for 5% of my net worth, I’d do it in a fuckin heartbeat.
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u/ExplainsYourDownvote 17h ago
so he fires all the fed workers, they can’t pay bills become homeless and then he doubles down they are drug addicts. What an absolute prick.
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u/Urist_Macnme 16h ago
Hear that, everyone about to lose their homes because of Americas economic ideological suicide?
You’re a lie.
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u/RacheltheTarotCat 13h ago
Well, we definitely don't want to help people with an illness. Any illness.
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u/CommonConundrum51 12h ago
For such a 'towering genius' he sure is prone to simplifying complex issues to fit his personal worldview.
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u/BlazingGlories 11h ago
Not all homeless people are drug addicts.
Many became sick or injured without proper healthcare.
Many do you have mental illnesses that they get no help for.
Many are employed and homeless because they still can't afford a home.
Shall we stereotype all billionaires into one category too?
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u/tony-toon15 10h ago
Um, didn’t he say once that he doesn’t actually have a home and just kind of sleeps wherever????
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u/SubstantialSet1246 10h ago
Listen, there should be nice hospitals for those with chronic mental health issues.
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u/RagingDemonsNoDQ 10h ago
If that's true, then the entire state of Utah during "Pioneer Days" are drug addicts!
("Pioneer Days" is a state holiday in Utah. State residents are encouraged to live like their ancestors and be homeless for the week)
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u/Ancient_Web6309 9h ago
If $20 billion dollars would solve homelessness why the fuck would Elon be responsible for that instead of the government which sent ten times that amount to Ukraine in a pointless war?
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u/KillerManicorn69 9h ago
Coming from a guy who used to be homeless, Elon is not exactly wrong. Is it a generalization, yes. But it is not exactly inaccurate.
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u/judahrosenthal 8h ago
It wouldn’t cost 20 billion. California alone has spent 24b in the last 5 years. The most it’s done is reduce the increase.
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u/HelpElegant7613 7h ago
So if that statistic is true, why aren’t governments acting instead of wasting billions on wars and funding net zero idiocy.
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u/Tweedlebungle 7h ago
I was homeless for a spell. I've never been a violent drug addict with severe mental illness.
I call bullshit.
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u/Pdubs2000 6h ago
lol. Pretending 20B will fix homelessness. The govt spends 6T a year. Yall plebs are so fucking stupid
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u/capitali 6h ago
This is the same liar who said there was fraud and waste and hasn’t brought a single piece of evidence forward or charged anyone with fraud. This is the same man who believes people that aren’t productive in the future should be recycled as biofuel. This is the same person who gave a Nazi salute three times on national television and never denied doing it and defended himself with lies. Same guy who pays video gamers to play his characters and lies about it. Same person who said empathy is a big, a defect and a weakness.
Psychopathic behavior by a psychopath. A dangerous and evil mentally ill drug addict in his own reich.
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u/jinglydangly 6h ago
People can be addicted to drugs or violent or mentally ill and also not have homes to live in. Both can be true, and one does not negate the other. People think this guy is smart?
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u/chiefmors 5h ago
Wait, if it's only 20 billion to end homelessness, they why the hell hasn't the government done it? They've got an annual budget of 3-4 trillion to work with. Hell, 20 billion is so little that the state goverments could end it.
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u/SubstantialSet1246 3h ago
Didn't California spend billions on luxery housing meant for people who are unhoused?
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u/jesuswantsme4asucker 2h ago
Elon would know a thing or two about being a mentally ill drug addict.
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u/Mad_Mek_Orkimedes 2h ago
You forgot Elons reply where he said he'd donate the 20 billion if anyone could explain what they would actually do with the money.
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u/LinkOnPrime 6h ago
Most homeless people, if you ask them, prefer to be homeless. It's the rest of us who think it's a problem.
And I do think it's a problem as well. But, no amount of money will solve it. Not when many of the homeless prefer to remain homeless.
I'm not saying ALL homeless people want to be homeless. So, please don't reply and tell me that you know someone who doesn't want to be homeless but is.
But many homeless either want to be, or are mentally ill and should be institutionalized... or both.
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