r/Reaper • u/Candid-Pause-1755 • 2d ago
help request Why Reaper adds small fade in/fade out when I auto trim/split items?
Hi guys,
I'm using the action called "Item: Auto trim/split items (remove silence). Inside the options for that action, I have no Fade pad, no Leading pad, and no Trailing pad enabled. The "Auto adjust snap offset" is set to 0. Basically, nothing related to fades is turned on there.
When I run it, it works , it removes the silence perfectly. But something I noticed is that the new items that are created have a very small fade in and fade out, like 2 milliseconds at the beginning and end of every clip. I don't want that. I don't understand why it's adding those tiny fades.
I also went into Project Settings > Media Item Defaults and I set everything to make sure there’s no crossfade. "Respect toolbar auto-crossfade button" is selected, "No crossfade" is selected for razor edits, and everything is unchecked (no automatic fades in or out). But still, these small fades appear after I remove silence.
Can someone explain why Reaper adds those small fades even though everything seems disabled? And how can I stop them from being applied automatically after using that action?
I know I can remove the fades manually afterward, but is there a way to prevent them from being added in the first place?
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u/anktombomb 2d ago
Crossfades are when you have 2 items overlapping, and will create a equal strenght fade on both items, creating a "x" like figure.
The setting you are looking for are
Preferences > Media Item Defaults > "create automatic fade-in/fade-out for new items and when splitting"
This can however cause a ton of clicks and pops if you are not careful, so make sure to give it an extra ear when disabled.
edit: I'm still on reaper 6.81 but as far as I remember reaper rarely changes the name and locations on preferences.
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u/aSingleHelix 2 2d ago
Just adjusted this setting this week, 90% sure you got it right
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u/edge_l_wonk 2d ago
I feel 80% that you are correct.
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u/aSingleHelix 2 2d ago
Combined we're 170% sure. So... So confident we don't even need to double check
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u/DecisionInformal7009 44 2d ago
I've noticed this as well when I've been batch processing tons of recorded IRs. Some trim and split actions don't seem to care about the settings in preferences. Annoying, but like someone else here said, you only need to add the "remove fade in and fade out" action after doing the split or trimming.
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u/Than_Kyou 90 2d ago edited 1d ago
It only doesn't create fades when fading split media items is completely disabled (unchecked) in the preferences. I think this is an oversight on the devs part. Surely if the option is not checked in the utility the fades should not be added otherwise the option is useless and misleading.
As a workaround fade removal can be automated with a custom action
Item: Auto trim/split items (remove silence)...
Item: Remove fade in and fade out
Dynamic split utility has identical Fade pad setting but it IS respected
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u/fasti-au 15 1d ago
Same frequencies stacked doubles volume. Two tracks double volume cross fade hides it
Phasing can also make frequencies disappear
It’s basically a smudge of mixing the noun so no harsh effect hits
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u/Pentium4Powerhouse 1 1d ago
Doubling the same sound increases loudness by ~1.3x. Fades stop there from being a pop when the cut isn't at a zero crossing. Crossfades do not effect frequency and essentially no effect on phasing. (Other than what normal leveling or automation would do)
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u/ObviousDepartment744 9 2d ago
Short answer, without that little fade it, there is a very high chance of a “pop” sound happening when that media item starts.
It is adjustable though. I forget the preference to set though. Sorry haha.