r/Scotland • u/Due-Resort-2699 • Feb 28 '25
Political Should Scots also Boycott the US?
Recently there’s been a huge movement in Canada to boycott American products and travel in response to the US enforcing 25% tariffs on Canada and also the sheer disrespect of saying Canada isn’t a real country and it should be annexed . Have a look at r/BoycottUnitedStates
And the sheer disgusting way that Trumps evil administration is treating immigrants and trans people , not to mention the most recent revolting behaviour in the Oval Office today, the way him and Vance treated President Zelensky was beyond the fucking pale.
In addition to this, the couch shagger JD Vance has been interfering with Scotland’s internal politics by wading into the whole safe zones debate around abortion clinics .
As long as the United States is siding with dictators and berating our friends and allies and bullying people , we should not be encouraging that country. Boycotts and international isolation and the economic fallout from this should hopefully encourage normal people to not only speak up against Trump, but do what needs done and take to the streets in massive numbers .
Should Scotland - like Canada - boycott American produce and travel until Trump and the MAGA cult are out of power ?
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u/Grimlord_XVII Feb 28 '25
Yes. I'm trying to replace anything I buy with European alternatives. Did you know that near enough EVERY SINGLE piece of confectionary that you're familiar with is owner by Mondelez, an American conglomerate?
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u/edelweiss891 Feb 28 '25
It’s almost impossible not to use American products. Even our visa/mastercards are American. Reddit is American and soon to be TikTok. Morrisons is owned by an American company and M&S have major stockholders that are predominantly American. I think we need to focus on the stuff at home and oust Westminster first myself and then work out the way. Trump hasn’t even imposed the tariffs yet. He’s trying to start big and loud and work down to a manageable deal. I don’t like it but I don’t jump the gun either. I think buying local is always good in general but not to overly worry yet.
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u/Joekickass247 Feb 28 '25
Yeah but next to none of their stuff you get here is made in the USA.
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u/Grimlord_XVII Feb 28 '25
True. But thats where the money goes regardless. Keep the money in the country and hurt Trumps friends, the billionaire shareholders.
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u/Yavanna_in_spring Mar 01 '25
I definitely have a hierarchy of choice: 1. Canadian company Canadian made 2. Other country company / other county made 3. American company Canadian made 4. American company American made (avoid at all costs).
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u/noma887 Feb 28 '25
I'd say it depends on the brands. Maga supporting big tech - definitely
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u/CuriousitySparksJoy Feb 28 '25
100% agree. I was genuinely sad to delete my FB and Instagram accounts.
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u/ringadingdingbaby Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
I would delete them but it's basically how everyone keeps in contact.
I hardly have any phone numbers now, it's all on messenger.
It's a shame I'm so tied to them.
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u/Wh4ty0ue4t Feb 28 '25
I've got 5 phone numbers in my phone. Mum, dad, partner, granny, partners mum.
I have almost everyone I've ever met on facebook/Instagram. I got rid of twitter but I think the other two would have me too isolated from my community really
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u/edelweiss891 Feb 28 '25
Reddit is American too. Depends on how far you take it?
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u/CuriousitySparksJoy Feb 28 '25
Yeah, perhaps it's a futile gesture on my part. As far as I know Reddit doesn't actively support Trump, whereas Zuckerberg, Musk, and Bezos had front row seats at the inauguration.
Our economy is so entwined with America that it's impossible to boycott everything, but if lots of people make a small change it may have an effect?
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u/edelweiss891 Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
I agree with what you’re saying, especially in regard to social media. The problem is many of these “alternatives” of products everyone talks about are still funding the same people. Even Morrisons is owned by an American company. M&S has mainly American ownership via US investment companies. Visa/mastercard-meaning all transactions are paying them. I think people do what they can, like you said, but if it comes to making huge sacrifices of money or people’s mental health to switch products then it might not be worth it if it’s just lining the same pockets. Just a thought. Plus I’m still waiting because as much as I don’t like Trump, he is all about threats and using it as leverage to get others to compromise on a deal. He still hasn’t enacted the tariffs yet as he’s holding out for their offers. He’s talked a big game about Zelensky but I still think a deal will be made.
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u/el_dude_brother2 Feb 28 '25
Jack Daniel is made by hardcore Trump loyalist in a serious red area and state.
Definitely one to swerve.
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u/kathykodra Feb 28 '25
I've switched to Caribbean rum and supermarket own brand coke. Miss Bourbon though.
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u/Brittle_Hollow Fucked off to Canada Feb 28 '25
There’s some great Canadian Rye whiskeys! Canadian Club is a good starting point.
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u/downloaded_dave Feb 28 '25
CC is great, have you had Alberta Premium? It's a lovely rye IMO.
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u/Brittle_Hollow Fucked off to Canada Feb 28 '25
I’ve only ever had Alberta Premium straight from a plastic quarter bottle at the end of a long Christmas day so I might be the wrong person to judge it.
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u/HistoricalPickle Feb 28 '25
Try Island Slice rum, made in Scotland by a guy from the Caribbean.
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u/MintyFresh668 Feb 28 '25
We have fabulous makers of every spirit type you can imagine. I’ve just finished a bottle of Moonshine made just outside Aberdeen!
Clarification- it took me four months of Friday evening Netflix and drinks!
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u/_Captain_Dinosaur_ Feb 28 '25
Four Roses is solid. It's legit Kentucky Bourbon and is owned by a Japanese company.
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u/Flat_Professional_55 Feb 28 '25
Shouldn’t have any trouble avoiding American whiskey in Scotland.
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u/el_dude_brother2 Feb 28 '25
Well true. Americans should stop drinking JD too and drink some real Scotch Whisky
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u/Brittle_Hollow Fucked off to Canada Feb 28 '25
JD has always been shite anyway. I’m a Scot living in Canada and if you want a nice rye whiskey it’s hard to go wrong with Canadian Club to start.
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u/dont_l Feb 28 '25
Remember: It’s not all or nothing. Small changes add up
Only thing the Americunts understand is money. Hit them there and at least the oligarchs will start to get uncomfortable
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u/ringtossed Mar 01 '25
Hey, I'm an American and I want to make a couple things real clear about these kinds of comments.
They're entirely true.
And also when referencing this shit show of a press conference with Zelenzky where Trump 100% showed how much of a Russian puppet he is, please refer to it as "The Twat Heard Round The World."
Thank you, and please remember to support all of the countries that aren't us. Some of our foreign allies will need your support now that it's clear we can't even be trusted to pay our tab at the local pub. 🤷♂️
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u/friolator Feb 28 '25
American here - please do.
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u/xarius214 Feb 28 '25
Another American here- I second this comment and will not be going back for the foreseeable future. Any friends/family can come visit me here if they want to see me & my family.
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u/BroughtYouMyBullets Feb 28 '25
Fair play. Congrats on being able to move. You chose a pretty decent time for it
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u/scorchedweenus Feb 28 '25
Currently working on my visa to stay here permanently with my Fiancée. I think Embarrassed is really the best way to describe how I’ve felt the last few months. I’ll definitely be avoiding American products as much as I can.
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u/BroughtYouMyBullets Feb 28 '25
Ignore the anti-American sentiment round here. If you're able to mingle wherever you are, you're certainly not the type its aimed at. Sorry if you get bombarded with questions about Trump etc right now
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u/scorchedweenus Feb 28 '25
No worries, every one has been nice about it lol. Just some lighthearted banter for the most part.
I did also get a politics degree so unfortunately it’s in my wheelhouse anyways.
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u/the_soggy_wood Mar 01 '25
American here. Fucking do it as hard as you can, we're boycotting here too. Today is a protest day where no one is supposed to spend any money at all. There are many more planned. Check out /r/50501 for more info.
Sorry about this orange cunt. Sorry about everything, really.
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u/metisdesigns Mar 01 '25
Another American here.
Please do.
If you do absolutely need something from over here, there are small businesses who arent nutters, a lot of us are tracking folks those folks worth supporting. But the big numbers of lost export will communicate the sheer level stupid we've walked head on into.
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u/glm0002 Mar 01 '25
American here. Please do it, we deserve it at this point. Sorry about our current state of affairs.
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u/Nice_Guy_AMA Mar 01 '25
I've used the up vote button as much as I can. Time to comment my agreement. Sorry it's not adding anything (other than support) to the conversation.
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u/misterrootbeer Mar 01 '25
Also American. I saw an excellent comment on r/newzealand that sums my thoughts up pretty well. It compares the US to a person struggling with addiction. My country can't be trusted until it gets clean.
Edit: a word
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u/katnissevergiven Mar 01 '25
Also American here and trying to buy Canadian products over American products. Please boycott us and also boycott the tech oligarchs who made this all happen.
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u/Sad-Description-8771 Mar 01 '25
Another American here. If you have the means to do so, please boycott us. The only thing these oligarchs care about is money, it’s the only language they know. And thank you. I’ll keep doing everything I can to resist this fuckery too 🤝.
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u/PattisgirlJan Feb 28 '25
American here. YES! My country has gone to hell and until the orange man leaves, I WELCOME all the pressure from other countries.
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u/Both_Wasabi_3606 Feb 28 '25
Not just boycott American products. Do not come to the USA to spend your money, especially MAGA Florida. Stay away!
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u/SuitableExtension847 Feb 28 '25
Our family love our Florida holidays but have told them all I'm not going for at least the next 4 years now (were planning 2026 or 2027) - it's a small drop in the ocean but I'd love it if more people would join in and it might make a bigger difference
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u/Both_Wasabi_3606 Feb 28 '25
Canadian boycott is already affecting Florida tourism.
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u/Timzy Mar 01 '25
We’re changing to Tokyo this year. Way more exciting than florida
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u/rageofmonkey Feb 28 '25
Canadian here, and I appreciate the support! Canada wouldn't exist without Scotland. You helped settle Newfound, Nova Scotia, AND British Columbia. 3/10 provinces, thanks to you wonderful people. There will always be a home for you and undying love.
But, you don't need to boycott the US if you don't want to. Every now and then, a president likes to come along, flex a little muscle, and make some threats. So, if shit gets serious, we will just burn down the damn whitehouse a third time and put em in their place. Canadians have been through this storm before, we will ride it out.
Unfortunately for the US, Canada is now working ways to cut out the US almost completely from our economy. So if Scotland wants to send over some of their far more superior products and alcohol, now is a good time to kick USA out.
Much love from Canada. Canada + Scotland strong forever!
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u/Clemo56 Feb 28 '25
Have your guy call our guy, we need a Canada + Scotland trade agreement much more than a US-GB one
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u/Daddygorch Feb 28 '25
Just ask yourself what would William Wallace do or WWWD. Canada strong, American never.
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u/tee-arr Feb 28 '25
We should. The BuyfromEU subreddit is picking up steam on alternatives to most of the US services we tend to use.
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u/Ultimas134 Feb 28 '25
As a US resident. Absolutely. Please ,Stop buying from this country, these shitbags in the White House need to go down and they only respond to money, or the lack of it.
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u/Eswui Mar 01 '25
Even the Americans are boycotting America. Multiple people I know, including myself, are only buying from small local stores now when feasible.
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u/Leena52 Feb 28 '25
U.S.here: DEFINITELY BOYCOTT us. Today I am beyond angry, embarrassed and ashamed of how Zelenskyy was treated by those 🤡 🤡 in the Whitehoyse😡😢
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u/HeidFirst Feb 28 '25
I'm starting with Starbucks, waste of money anyway.
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u/doverats Feb 28 '25
Yes we should, just seen him on the news there and was disgusted with Trumps behaviour. Europe is on its own for the foreseeable so we best act like it and not rely on the USA. Impossible to go completely US free but every little helps. Fuck them.
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u/jlbqi Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
Be aware that the problem is so deep. US Private Equity and Asset Managers owns a vast amount of businesses (a few example Cadburys/Morrison/Costa Coffee/Travelodge/London Gatwick/Alton Towers) and energy/utilities (BP, Shell) where they buy it, strip it, lay off around 10-20% of staff in what they call "margin expansion", take out a load of collateralised debt to pay owners, then sell it on.
UK doesn't have an independent bank card system (just uses Mastercard and Visa) as opposed to Carte Bleue (France) or Girocard (Germany).
The nuclear deterrent, Trident, is US; and hasn't fired a single successful test in the last 10 years. Comforting...
Amazon makes up bulk of online shopping.
US firms dominate investment and advisory roles in the City of London.
Would be a few examples.
The problem affect Europe, but they haven't allows as much wholesale capitulation as the UK where the government does not intervene in strategic industries in the way that Germany supports its Mittelstand (SMEs) or France backs Airbus and energy firms.
Every former PM in recent history has gone onto a US company or consulting firm to make their millions after office.
I could go on but I think you get the idea
"Take back control" was only half the idea of brexit. It was actually "Take back control and give it all to the US". The UK as a whole is near vassal state.
That's why there's going to be no tariffs on the UK. What's the point when the US owns most of it anyway.
Agree. We need to boycott US products, but we also need a government that will properly defend the country. Through tax and policy.
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u/edelweiss891 Feb 28 '25
This is exactly what I’ve been saying. Everyone is going for the headline grabs but we have our own watered down Trump in England. We need to start by getting rid of Westminster and working our way out. Boycotting is not going to do the damage people think it is because the “alternatives” are still funding the same people .
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u/KietTheBun Feb 28 '25
As an American: you are helping us by not buying from us. Don’t buy a darn thing that is produced or distributed from the US.
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u/marshallaw215 Feb 28 '25
American - please boycott / Trump admin needs pain … and many people just fucking asleep accepting this bullshit need more pain as well.
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u/pertweescobratattoo Feb 28 '25
Their products are shite anyway. Nutrition-free food, ugly and inefficient cars, etc.
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u/RandolphCarter15 Feb 28 '25
American here- yes. A lot of us didn't back him but we'd need leverage and that will come from the rest of the country facing consequences
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u/petrescu Feb 28 '25
I've been out here for nearly two decades now, never thought I'd come back home, but giving some consideration to the idea.
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Feb 28 '25
Absolutely, already doing it wherever possible. One thing that is barely registering in the US but is seismic here is America's betrayal of Ukraine and its implications for Europe.
Here's one anecdote for the pile: earlier this week in a tiny community shop in Orkney, I heard a mother tell her daughter something along the lines of "we're not getting that, it's American".
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u/Pilgrim_of_Reddit Feb 28 '25
All USA allies, and other countries, supported the USA after 9/11. It cost everyone billions and billions. Even more than that, it cost many countries the lives of their dead, and the lives of the wounded.
Yet... according to Americans, NATO and allies have done fuck all to support the USA. The USA is the only country to use Article 5. All NATO allies supported the USA, and not just that, countries not in NATo - including Australia, France, the Czech Republic, Poland and New Zealand.
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Feb 28 '25
How huge is the movement in Canada, what would Scotlands boycott look like and how would it impact the US.
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u/friolator Feb 28 '25
It's getting bigger. I have family in Canada and Canadian friends who live here in the US and they're saying it's really gaining steam. You should be able to read this even without a NY Times subscription: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/28/world/canada/canada-us-trump-tariffs-reactions.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0U4.2wU3.n8zx7_HcQE7z&smid=url-share
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u/Gethund Feb 28 '25
Everyone should. Did you just see the cunt and his vice-cunt on television?
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u/Clean_Fig4793 Feb 28 '25
Hell yes. (Canadian here - and I've just spent 30 minutes looking for non-US made mouthwash. It all helps)
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u/Break-n-Dish Feb 28 '25
Definitely hope no one launches brake fluid all over the greens of his golf courses which would obvs be terrible.
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u/HungryFinding7089 Feb 28 '25
In all seriousness, please don't, this really damages the ecosystem, and we need some bugs this summer
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u/strychnine28 Feb 28 '25
Please do. This American is boycotting from within. I hope to see you all again soon, so please know that many of us are equally horrified and voted for the sane lady.
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u/Witchsinghamsterfox Feb 28 '25
American here who loves Scotland. Yes. Boycott the US. All of Europe should boycott this insane clown administration and all the evil shit they are doing to the world. Please bring them down.
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u/That1Guy80903 Feb 28 '25
Yes, and a normal Human who lives in Merica and is disgusted by what's happening please do boycott us. In fact ALL Countries should as a united front against the Fascism the GOP (our Conservative party) is puking out.
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u/Ghostlyshado Feb 28 '25
Please do. The more accountability the world shows towards our piece of shite hate cult run government, the better.
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u/IrishRogue3 Mar 01 '25
The yanks don’t really export goods as much as services… a lot of tech and software… Netflix, Apple, Amazon .. any others?
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u/DutchOvenMaster11 Mar 01 '25
Canadian here, and like a Canadian, I will say it's not all about us.
It may have begun with the constant disrespect he has for our sovereignty and Ukraine's, but it is much more than that now.
Trump is treating the world like its family game night, and his games of choice are Risk and Monopoly. In the real world, people die, and families and communities are destroyed.
This should no longer be localized boycotts but a worldwide movement against the U.S. administration and American goods
The political tides have turned in the U.S.. Evil and bigotry were hiding in the shadows, and now they've been welcomed into the light.
The political idealogy in the U.S. has shifted and is no longer in line with the rest of the free world. With every day that goes by, it seems far less likely there's a chance of self correcting.
It is time for the rest of us who believe humanity still has a chance to work together. This includes Americans who understand that a hateful, egotistic cult has usurped your government.
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u/subZro_ Mar 01 '25
Trump supporters will literally follow him into hell, so yes everyone around the world needs to do whatever they can to stop this maniac. Even if it's just boycotting a single American item. Do whatever you can. It's not just for the good of one country, the world needs that psycho and his cult followers gone.
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u/mtbphotoman Mar 01 '25
I’m from America and yes you should boycott us. Money is the only thing these people will respond to.
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u/UnderratedZebra17 Mar 01 '25
American here! Boycott us, please! Boycott Amazon, Meta/Facebook/Instagram/ Whatsapp (all the same company), Twitter, Wal-Mart, Target. We are boycotting, too!
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u/JXM19269 Mar 01 '25
It would be great if Scotland created more of its own products and had more industry so we could buy more home made products and use more home made energy.
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u/ropeadopeandsmoke Mar 01 '25
I’m American, studied abroad in Scotland and loved it! Wouldn’t mind one day emigrating, but we’ll see.
I just want to say though, I whole heartedly support this. This country needs to actually feel the consequences of electing a crooked moron. Maybe then the half that voted for him might learn something.
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u/amybounces Mar 01 '25
American here - yes please! Some americans are trying to push an economic boycott ourselves - only shopping local/small, using cash whenever possible - unfortunately half the country has lost their goddamn minds so they can’t be counted in but if a BUNCH of us here and everyone out of the country impact their bottom line enough…
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u/MeBollasDellero Mar 02 '25
Yes, boycott the U.S. they have not done shit for Ukraine. Meanwhile Scotland has done so much….
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u/Vyse1991 Feb 28 '25
Yes. I would no longer consider them a reliable ally after all this trade shite, and the holding Ukraine to ransom for it's minerals.
They can't be trusted anymore.
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u/Calm-Locksmith-2139 Feb 28 '25
Canadian here. We certainly appreciate the support from our Scottish cousins. Nothing against our American friends but I truly don’t understand how they let a complete moron ruin their country. They chose him and can remove him.
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u/Randomse7en Feb 28 '25
The President of the United States just disrespected every European (and I include all Brits in that). At a basic level. I hope and pray the King has the right mind to send a little note telling Trump the UK is washing its hair.
For my American friends, of which I have many, I am sorry but its nothing personal but this is unforgivable and its going to take a lot to recover from this.
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u/The_Bunglenator Feb 28 '25
Fuck man this is spooky, I literally just got to this exact point in my mind before opening reddit to see this.
Said to my mates they should take the JD off the shelves and replace it with a sign saying the US can get to fuck.
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u/loveforwild Feb 28 '25
YES! Every country should boycott the US until shitler is in prison for treason. Speaking as a US citizen.
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u/ElectricJesus420 Feb 28 '25
Dual citizen here, please boycott us at least until this admin is removed.
Canada is very beautiful in the summer, should you want to travel to the Americas for holiday.
Thank you
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u/Blametheorangejuice Feb 28 '25
As an American, I say: boycott away. I am hoping to visit Scotland next summer if our economy doesn't completely collapse between then and now.
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u/kathykodra Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
I'd say yes. Especially Big Tech and things manufactured in Red States. I am already - I'm English
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u/deanopud69 Feb 28 '25
After what they just did to Zelenskyy, yes absolutely. Time to ditch them fast
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u/linkhandford Feb 28 '25
Canadian here - Will trade goods and vacations with you. Let us all stay out of US
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u/RudnitzkyvsHalsmann Feb 28 '25
It is wider Europe's moral obligation, of sll of us, to end the hegemony of the United States, now. Today will be remembered forever as the lowest event of the history of diplomacy. We must protect Ukraine with our own military, fuck the US.
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u/Harry_Hoofter Feb 28 '25
Save yourself a hangover and boycott Jack Daniels and Jim Beam
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u/muzthe42nd Feb 28 '25
If I didn't already live here with my American wife, I absolutely would. What a terrible direction we're heading.
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u/Current_Volume3750 Feb 28 '25
Yes boycott us until the orange rapist is out of office or dead.
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u/Davetg56 Feb 28 '25
Yank here . . . Boycott the shit out of MAGA . . . Gi it laldy . . . I believe is the more local vernacular . . . Please and thank you . . .
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u/Declan1966 Feb 28 '25
Everyone that can should boycott everything American that they can enough to make the magats eventually realise their false prophet is just another shithead dictator that needs removing
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u/TheDirtyVicarII Feb 28 '25
American here... yes, follow Canada's lead on focused boycotting first, all in if that's what it takes.
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u/jacob_marley21 Feb 28 '25
Not that it makes much difference but felt like posting fwiw I sold all my stocks in US companies today as a result of what was shown on the BBC & reinvested them into UK/EU companies. I have no interest in holding shares in US anymore and I'm sure there's others out there who will feel the same.
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u/Acrobatic-Shirt8540 Is toil leam càise gu mòr. Feb 28 '25
I planned to go to the US for my 50th. I decided that if Trump won I wasn't going. I'm definitely not going now. Fucking idiot.
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u/i_mightbewrong Feb 28 '25
i've already cancelled a trip to cape cod, goddammit
that's a drop in the ocean though. really needs to be family trips to disney stopping.
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u/SashalouAspen4 Feb 28 '25
As a Brit in Canada, the boycott is strong and fierce here in Quebec. Join the boycott. Those c*nts proved today with Zelenskyy that they are unhinged
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u/Ok-Inflation4310 Feb 28 '25
I’ve been keen to go to America for a holiday for many years. Circumstances were against it but now that I can I just don’t want to anymore.
Partly because of Trump and partly because I just can’t be arsed with the tipping culture.
I don’t think I buy much from the US at the best of times but I’d certainly reconsider any purchase from there.
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u/BroodLord1962 Feb 28 '25
I'm expecting a petition to show up on the Gov web site this weekend to cancel Trumps state visit
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u/Cole668 Feb 28 '25
Canadian, Scotch whisky enthusiast here. I spent ~6 months of last year working offshore out of Aberdeen and touring as much of the country as I could on my days off. Would love for the Scots to join us boycotting the US and to open up more ties between our nation. I'd love another shot to visit your beautiful country!
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u/Blackrose161 Feb 28 '25 edited Feb 28 '25
Do it. With all the damage drump has already done to our government, he needs a wake up call asap. Best way to hit him is to damage the pockets of the wealthy backing him. Especially since the cia and fbi have apparently rolled over and will just let him do whatever he wants, constitution be damned. American- Specifically, Environmental Scientist in a Blue State. This whole regime can rot in hell for what they’re doing to the earth and my colleagues.
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u/alwaysinmyhair Feb 28 '25
A buyfromscotland sub would be excellent if anyone wanted to start one…. 👀