Wow, this thread has fairly gained some traction since the last time I looked at it! Not to mention the endless amount of reports it’s generating.
To keep things under control I’m gonna lock the post before I go to bed, but it’ll potentially be unlocked in the morning, or least restricted to members only.
My ex wife and I had to go through a miscarriage a year before we had our child and these melts were outside the Queen Elizabeth at the area where women have to go for all gynecological care. So while we were dealing with the reality of losing our child we also had to listen to these idiots telling us we had options. I have no patience for them whatsoever.
She’s 100% right. If you have time to stand outside to judge people you should be something actually
Christian like helping actual living kids with no family who could really use your help.
Quite right. Sadly I doubt these ghouls have an ounce of shame.
If you want to live your life by the rules and teachings of whatever religion you want that's absolutely fine, once you start trying to force those rules and teachings onto others is when you can fuck off.
“My dear, religion is like a penis. It’s a perfectly fine thing to have and take pride in, but when one takes it out and waves it in front of my face we have a problem.”
The worst thing is they'll treat this righteous bollocking as a test faith - as Satan coming forth to challenge their convictions. There's no way to sanely and logically argue with these people, because they will always reject reality and replace it with religious dogma.
This is the maxim that pricks like this have never grasped. Just like so called free speech absolutists like Musk and his accolytes and bitches like Vance and Trump.
Your rights end where mine begin.
Your rights end when exercising your right starts to cause me harm.
1000% this. They can bugger right off with this distressing and nauseating evangelical bullshit, we don’t need any more of this venom leaking over here from that fascist hellhole.
Preaching to the choir pet. I haven’t shared this online ever before but my lovely wonderful generous and supportive sister in law who is a superb mum to her existing kids with my brother had to have a termination after her baby was found to have anencephaly. These disgusting fuckers have no humanity. I don’t believe in god but I want to scream at them your god is a sadist inflicting horrendous things on innocent babies. Their god had harmed more children than fucking Hindley and Brady if it’s real. Which I don’t believe it is. I stand with this woman.
Sending lots of love to you and your sister. I had to have an abortion for the same reason and would have likely been done for assault if these arseholes attempted to block my way.
Evangelical nonsense. Most of them gloss over numbers 5.11-31 in the Bible where priests induce miscarriages for unfaithful women...
Most of the women in these clinics won't be there for a lack of fealty, but for medical reasons.
Fuck Vance fuck Trump, and their fucked country, with the federal laws coming into play in America, some states could make women face the death penalty for potentially life saving abortions.
Abortion was made into an wedge issue by a guy called Paul Weyrich in the US in the late 70s. He happens to be one of the founders of the Heritage Foundation as well which is the organisation that planned Trump’s Project 2025.
Weyrich openly admitted that abortion was not the original galvanising issue for the religious right movements in the 70s.
Initially, the movement was mobilised around opposition to racial desegregation, particularly the US government’s efforts to withdraw tax-exempt status from segregated Christian schools like Bob Jones University.
The focus on abortion came later, partly because the defence of segregation was losing public support. Weyrich and other strategists felt that abortion could potentially be reframed as a moral and religious issue that would galvanise a voting block in a way that was more palatable than the issue of race and easier for people to openly advocate for.
These idiots harassing women on the side of the road are literally the result of someone 50 years ago’s explicit and well documented idea to manipulate idiots into doing the bidding of the rich.
Yeah, their politics is primarily divide and conquer. Find an issue that can drive people apart, and whenever possible demonise someone that they can focus their "righteous" hatred upon.
There's nothing Christian about it, they're just spewing hatred.
yep-they basically spun a wheel and chose that hill to die on. now that they've reversed Roe and made women's lives a living hell they're focused on made up "DEI/woke"
Fuckers.
Yes. That’s such a funny detail; more than once in the early 70s, the Southern Baptist Convention passed resolutions publicly supporting abortion access. It wasn’t until later when they realised how well it was working that they u-turned.
I often wonder if there are anti-abortion activists out there who happened across the history and realised: wait, did I just get obviously played? It’s so blatant.
It's already spread for what do you think the anti trans stuff is about.
We had no concern for Trans prior to 2017 when it was bad actors in the UK imported a Republican political tool as it pertained to the US state of North Carolina, for it to balloon from there.
Even that is happening up in Fife is funded by American interests
The verse I like to point out is Matthew 6:5-6 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.” Being raised Christian but anti-Christian nationalism is a great way to beat them at their own game, as they won’t listen to anything other than the Bible.
It’s traditional mindset that stems from Christianity. And people pushing their moral agendas onto others. Can’t believe it’s like we’re going back in time, instead of progressing.
When I was a very young woman, I got pregnant by a man I went on a few dates with, who turned out to be off-his-nut insane and who stalked me everywhere I went. It was a TERRIFYING time in my life, and to make it worse, I had no support system at the time; my family members were literally scattered around the globe.
I had an abortion. I had to walk through throngs of protestors with signs and people screaming at me to receive that abortion. It was devastating.
No one will ever understand what it is like to be pregnant and know that you would be putting that child's entire life at risk if you bring them into the world. I cried and prayed and talked to that baby. I told it to come back at another time when it was safer to be born.
It was an agonizing medical experience on top of the terrible emotional and spiritual burden. I won't describe it here, but it is godawful. I was awake. I will never forget it.
People who judge and assume the worst of women in this situation I will never understand. No one wants an abortion. It's done out of sheer desperation and fear. It's done because you're smart enough to know that you can't afford to support a child, or because the father is an abusive ass, or because you have no outside support, or because the child has such severe defects that it will suffer if it's born, and you refuse to visit that cruelty on it just to make yourself feel righteous.
The woman in the video is right. All the sanctimonious assholes out there with signs ARE NOT adopting babies or feeding orphans or buying little kids school supplies or helping moms. They are nasty, cruel people who get off on hurting others. It's SPORT to them, and they hide behind a very thin veneer of fake-ass religion.
As a Christian, you are absolutely bang on with this comment. They don't care, they just want to feel superior and put themselves above others, it's despicable.
I am sure your little one will return to you when the time is right. You absolutely made the right decision.
Some mad preacher on Argyle street at the weekend was expelling his sh1te with the use of a microphone just outside M&S. He said and I quote 'do you like murder? Oh you do, you like murdering little unborn babies'. It repulsed me that you could hear this guy clearly from over 50 metres away and children are walking up and down the street. In hindsight I should have reported him. It's inciting hatred surely.
Matthew 6:5-6 for those who want extra evidence that these "Christians" are performative hypocrites. Jesus said it.
5."And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Ephesians talks about having slaves be obedient. These nutters want slaves now? Actually... don't answer that.
There are also a few other verses where it appears that Jesus was pro-abortion, like in the gospel of Mark where Jesus heals a woman and commends her, or in Exodus where it states a woman shouldn't come to harm from a forced miscarriage.
I'm sure there are more examples, but aye, these clowns just pick and choose what they want.
American Christians and Evangelicals do not care about women or the child. They are not pro life, they are pro control... particularly of women.
Awful men who wish to control women but still expect us to take responsibility for a man's inability to control himself, keep his hands to himself and his dick in his trousers. Do one you sickos!
Then there is the awful women who are happy to go along with this and, to be clear, I am not including those who have been abused, gaslighted, and indoctrinated in that. There are plenty of conservative women who know what they are doing.
This is easily seen in how they treat people in America. Like, the attitude to life is summed up by their awful healthcare system and the downright hatred of the LGBT community.
The idiots of the world may be convinced to hate the LGBT community, but plenty of us remember clearly which religious organisations covered up child sex abuse cases in their thousands over decades.
The idea that Christians are being persecuted in the UK is absolute nonsense.
Christianity is the dominant religion. It is taught in schools, and people are free to go to their churches and chapels.
What we should not tolerate is them bringing it onto the streets and harassing people. Their nonsense outside of abortion clinics is an attempt to force their beliefs on others and shame women into being controlled.
My own personal feelings are that where possible, people should carry babies to term. However, first, that is not my choice, second I don't know the circumstances, third, if someone has been raped and does not wish to keep the child of their rapist that should be their choice, without judgement, and fourth, there are plenty who want their child but unfortunately it was not meant to be and mum needs the abortion procedure...whatever the reason, all these women go through emotional pain and turmoil with these decisions. They should not have to put up with these religious hypocrits making an awful time that bit worse.
The US are awful to women, and some of the red states are downright horrendous. Underage girls who have been raped being forced to have the children, women whose pregnancies have become unviable and who need the abortion procedure to save their lives being denied it. A country full of dangerous self-righteous religious hypocrisy. Edit: and our own self-righteous religious hypocrits are being encouraged by the Americans.
I updated the map to showcase the buffer zone -- if they literally crossed the street, they would have been in the buffer zone. That's how close they were.
I'll post my previous map as well, just for the satellite view:
I lean right and I couldn’t agree with her more, how anyone can think they should be able to stop a woman doing what they want with their body is beyond me.
They could be helping transport foster kids so they don’t have to switch schools while in care. They could be making lunches/dinners for kids on weekends when schools out. But no, its easier to scare and harass women than to help already born kids.
Totally agree. Your body is your body. It's your choice. This kind of shaming, blaming behaviour by anti abortion protesters is disgusting, distasteful and vile. They need to go home and hang their heads in shame.
That's very true, the pro life crowd in the US have no care for those they are successful in deterring and certainly have no care for children born into poverty.
A lot of weirdo American bams dripping into this thread... You guys should focus on dealing with your own mess of a country first and leave us to ours, cheers.
As an abortion is a medical procedure I hope they're not in receipt of medical treatment either, it's God's will that old Mary got a dicky heart and Betty's hips to blow out, so that would be quite hypocritical of them if they did.
The same “pro-life” crowd has plagued my state with terrorist attacks for decades as well- the most recent being a mass shooting attack on a clinic. Before that though it was gas bombings, fire bombings, and assassinations of doctors and women. That same group gave the world Eric Rudolph.
Exactly this, self righteous pricks are all saving unborn babies but don't give af when they're actually here oh and God forbid that the parents get benefits to help raise those kids you get the same sorts saying why are you having more kids than you can take care of.
This is what the MAGAts are referring to when they talk about the UK's "war on prayer" btw. Nah fuck you if you go and torment women at clinics. Go pray in your churches where they can fall on deaf ears so the rest of us don't have to hear your bullshit.
For all the energy, manpower, and money that go into “end stage” opposition to abortion… like people taunting and attacking women in front of shelters, blocking shelters, violence against doctors, heartbeat clinics and scam “pregnancy centers”…
They do that because they’ve lost the debate. The woman is seeking an abortion.
Same with the political drives to make or keep abortion illegal. They’ve lost the debate in the public discourse, and lost it with women seeking abortions.
Yet those same forces never seem to spend even a fraction as much money, energy, and manpower to change people’s minds about abortion. You know, where the actual debates that matter are taking place.
Leave women and the law alone. If you oppose abortion, add to the conversation and try to sway hearts and minds.
Don’t attack women in the midst of crisis and confusion. Do better.
Good on her. These anti-abortion protesters are not “pro-life”.
If they were pro-life they would be concerned about all children once they were born (not condemning children to poverty or growing up in care), they would fight for universal healthcare free at the point of need, they would demonstrate against all wars (where so many innocent children suffer and die), they would be anti-gun. This is all about control over women’s bodies, control over the working class (the super rich don’t play by these rules). This is not Christianity, this is abuse of women. If they were indeed pro-life they wouldn’t stop caring once the babies were born….
The Anti Abortion movement is actually Forced Birth. These Christians want to force Women who have been raped to give birth. They are terrible people. They don't support Healthcare for Women. They vote for Fascists. Remember the Catholic Church is infested with Pedophile Priests. Depraved Sex Criminals. Christians are a blight on Humanity. Their Fake Jesus obsession is a sickness. He doesn't exist and they use this make believe God to hurt people.
My mom got her period at 12. At the time she didn’t know what it was and genuinely thought she was dying. Her mom is a narcissist who treated her awful, so she was too afraid to tell her. She walked over to planned parenthood for help and when she got there a bunch of religious protesters were yelling at her and calling her a whore as she walked in. At 12!!
Of course PP took care of her, educated her on the menstrual cycle and gave her feminine hygiene products. But she said the whole experience was incredibly traumatic.
This was in 1972. It’s so sad that women still have to deal with these people.
Don’t debate these people. Don’t speak reason to them. These people want you to debate them so they can have a platform to respond and reach further people. They want to normalize their horrendous views. Do not give them the chance.
They don’t care for reason. They don’t care about their hypocrisy. Don’t bother stating, they won’t listen or reflect.
Your only viable option is silencing them in any way that works. To be clear I’m not advocating for violence. I just mean, if you encounter these people in the wild, yell at them to shut the fuck up, play loud music to drown them out, or prey on their religious fears.
In the mean time, I don’t know the intricacies of your government, but you must must must advocate for encoding permanent bodily autonomy laws that cannot be undone. The amount of effort these religious leeches put into this nonsense is incomprehensible. It took nearly sixty years of continuous effort for these evangelical nut jobs to overturn Roe in the US. Do NOT give them the chance in the UK.
Fr, you can pray all you want and have different opinions, but you lost your heart the day you decided to intimidate people going through a traumatizing experience.
Were the people she was yelling at American or Scottish? This wasn’t a thing years ago when I lived there. I moved to the USA and oh yes, it’s been a thing since the 90’s and probably earlier. It’s a right wing funded astroturfing movement.
They were even bombing clinics and attacking doctors. One of them went into a church and murdered a doctor in front of the congregation and his family.
Scots need to run these people off. Most of them are really cowards.
While Scottish every day life is a lot less religious than some places, there are still absolutely some (typically older) people who look at the sort of in your face Christianity that other places have and wish we had it here too.
I remember one of the older cunts in my local ended up talking about something vaguely alluding to religion, and within a few moments he was reciting every young earth creationist argument that has ever existed.
This guy was adamant about the earth only being ~6000 years old, about dinosaurs living with cavemen and or being fake entirely, about how everybody who isn't Christian is going to hell, there's no atheists in fox holes etc.
Guy was also a massive BNP supporter back in the day before they imploded, he took umbrage to me telling a BNP leaflet distributor to fuck off when they came into the pub and tried to hand people pamphlets.
Sadly she is right, most of the people protesting like utter morons wouldn't do anything if the aborted babies were born and needed support likewise if the mothers needed support. They wouldn't give a shit and only honestly care about their own selfish beliefs. Whether its due to deluded religious beliefs or because they decided their personal beliefs/views have gotta be the most important out there, they're all just deluded ignorant arseholes!!!!
I’m a native Scot living in America, Texas unfortunately and you truly cannot imagine just how bad it is here. Christianity seeping into every part of life here. It’s disgusting. You can’t even speak about abortion here without getting a gun pulled on you for saying the wrong thing. We need more women like her.
That’s why I’m loving the work of the Satanic Temple — and I’m Jewish! They’re advocating the separation of church and state by testing how we handle religious pluralism. So, they do a lot of work in Texas. They have an online abortion meds program named after Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s mom. :)
I’m so sorry you have to see us at our worst. You’re fortunate you can leave (soon, I fear, we won’t have that luxury). But hey, that Texas BBQ though…
If someone just googled illnesses and diseases that require abortion, you can see how stupid it is to be anti-abortion regardless of your religious belief. As we have seen in states where abortion is illegal, NO laws are perfect enough to prevent doctors from rejecting medically necessary abortion due to legal liability.
I remember the gory pictures of babies in front of planned parenthood as a child and not understanding the protest. My mother had an etopic pregnancy. After seeing her sliced from side to side in the 90's. after seeing how that procedure affected my mom and it solidified my stance on pro choice at 8 years old. That etopic pregnancy could have been prevented if it wasn't for my father cheating on my mother. Chlamydia for women is often silent and it eats away at your reproductive organs. My mom found out when she was pregnant with her second and the meds could have made my sibling blind. She wanted a third child and the doctors didn't warn her of the scar tissue left behind and it was what cause the etopic pregnancy. She experienced so many health problems after that surgery. Her belly button would split open and she had bad cysts after that too. The people that are pro birth are so evil. They don't realize that an abortion requires at least 6 weeks of care afterwards. I was so angry at a couple that had a baby born of brittle bone diesease to bring awareness to the disease. The baby didn't last a day. The amount of suffering to be born is crazy. We need to educate on stds, prevention, contraception and hold men to higher standards. Its wild to me that men will get more pain meds from a vasectomy than a woman does after birth. Woman experience so much pain and tearing after childbirth. That pelvic floor therapy is denied to women after childbirth by insurance but men can go in and get ed meds real easy. Our systems are broken.
God. This reminds me of my auntie, she goes apeshit when she sees these idiots. She has lived it and has always educated us growing up about how difficult a decision it is and something you have to live with for the rest of your life…but last time we saw them protesting around the election and someone had left their dog shit bag on the path. As we walked past them, she said “fuck this shit” and threw the dog shit bag at them like Begbie throwing the glass in Trainspotting.
Scotland, take notice of where this will end up. Look to Texas as your example. Women are dying because of the denial of healthcare. They are denied services for unviable pregnancies because politicians have inserted their laws into the private lives of women.
Usually when I see these types of things, even though I probably agree with the person, I always cringe because of the performative and cliche nature of it.
But, she actually came across very well, was passionate and articulate in a very blunt manner, that instantly reduced these protestors or the notion of them as ridiculous and pathetic.
We all need to be more like her for really do need to stop this American funded assault upon our freedoms for they are about making us just like them, so they can control us.
These are the same people who protest at the funerals of gay veterans. I get they want to save unborn lives. Unfortunately, the entire religion is built on brainwashing, so they're led to believe what they're doing is just.
These people protesting are PRO BIRTH and not PRO LIFE. They don't give a shit about these babies after they are born. Plus, these "pro-life" people are the ones that vote for people who cut the social programs that would help prevent pregnancies that end in abortions.
religion, especially this type of fundamentalism, is really bad. Sure believe in what you want but the moment you impose your values onto others it enters into religious fundamentalism.
Well done to this brave woman 👏🏻 we should organise counter protests to push these cunts away. We need to bring banners so big that the women going in the hospital could never even see them, and we need music so loud that they would never be able to hear their bs.
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u/CrispyCrip 🏴Peacekeeper🏴 Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25
Wow, this thread has fairly gained some traction since the last time I looked at it! Not to mention the endless amount of reports it’s generating.
To keep things under control I’m gonna lock the post before I go to bed, but it’ll potentially be unlocked in the morning, or least restricted to members only.
Apologies for the inconvenience.