r/Scotland • u/tobeusedbymany • 28d ago
Political Petition to remove Jack Daniels from local pubs and supermarkets?
Late night/early morning thought but why do pubs and supermarkets here still have jack daniels? I’m very happy boycotting US products myself but we live in the land of whisky… why the need to import JD too? (Can’t really call it whisky as it doesn’t even taste good). Having asked that, is there a way to push for its removal?
Update: The amount of but hurt comments this post has gotten is astonishing. No i’m not trying to impose dictatorship by forcing you to stop drinking JD. No i’m not trying to be woke and jump on a trend. I’m actually as close to being conservative as one can get while still respecting others and their right to exist and live with happiness and dignity. This was simply a late night reflection on why we would not be supporting local products and instead import JD from a country that is currently wreaking havoc in the world. It’s crazy how you can’t see the UK being next in line for this attack. Either the economy will struggle due to increased efforts to support Ukraine or dictator trump will one day wake up and decide he no longer likes the UK just as he did with US’s closest ally up north. I can’t say i’m surprised though. Anger is easily released on social media behind screens. I hope you all keep the same energy when all our bills increase in April. I’m realistic enough to know that we can’t boycott everything US related but that doesn’t mean we should just accept being powerless. Again though, if train fares, taxes, reduced public services, and constant increases in bills and grocery prices haven’t moved you lots, I wouldn’t expect much excitement for boycott calls.
To my Canadian friends, I hope you know that many stand with you and support you. You do not deserve this threat and I hope you come out of it stronger
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u/_muck_ 28d ago
I’m an American and I have lived in Scotland and have no idea why you’d be slumming it with Jack Daniels when you already have the best whisky in the world.
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u/MGallus 28d ago
No one’s just drinking JD on its own, it’s a cheap drink you have with a mixer, I ain’t doing that with a decent whisky.
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u/killjoy1991 28d ago
Because the UK government taxes the shit out of Scotch whisky. Pretty sad when I can buy the same bottle of Laphroaig or Lagavulin in the States for 25% less than at the distillery itself.
If the Scots want to be pissed about tariffs/taxes, might look to London. British government is fucking you... yet you're all upset about a tax dispute between the US & Canada? Might want to solve your internal problems first.
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I don't think people would care about the tariff dispute if it wasn't part of such a bullying overall attitude, allusions to annexation, willingness to tear up commitments etc.
Moral objections aside solidarity makes sense when nobody knows who the next target will be.
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u/McFuckin94 28d ago
You can be concerned about both, they’re not exclusive. Plus, the US cultural issues have a really nasty habit of making their way over here, so it’s good people are taking action, even if it’s as simple as a boycott.
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u/Fantastic-Machine-83 28d ago edited 28d ago
What a load of shite. Duty on alcohol isn't some oppressive Westminster policy, it's what every country in the world does to discourage drinking alcohol and earn some money to fund the country.
Your comment implies we are specifically taxing Scottish whisky
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u/Outrageous-Orange007 28d ago
Yea, thats a concern worth talking to the UK about. But dont take after US and be an uncivilized aggressive ape about it.
Also, the US is installing a a fascist dictatorship... In the most powerful country on Earth, in case y'all dont follow whats going on over here..
Sooo.. might be another reason to go ahead and focus on those US boycotts. Just a suggestion though, y'all do you.
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u/frankensteinsmaster 28d ago
Ironically, they actually gave $28k to kamala and $20k to trump. I totally agree with the boycott, and them trying to play both sides just shows their total lack of morality.
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u/InncnceDstryr 28d ago
It’s actually a surprisingly common practice in American politics. Lots of corporations donate to both parties’ campaign.
I agree with the overall statement about total lack of morality btw, and this comment isn’t whataboutery, just noting that it’s very common.
I’m not even sure what donating to both sides is meant to achieve, is it just so they can say “we donated, be nice to us”?
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u/_muck_ 28d ago
The worst thing that happened to America was the passage of Citizens United which ruled that corporations have the same rights as people, making large donations like that legal and paving the way for the oligarchy you see today.
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u/Aggressive_Music_643 28d ago
In the States it’s called brown nosing, boot licking, or ass kissing; wanting favors in return.
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u/Tomagatchi Damn Yankee 28d ago
It's called lobbying and it's a form of legal bribery and legal corruption of elected officials
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u/TurtlesandSnails 28d ago
Donald trump said it himself in his first campaig, you have to donate to both sides to get anything done. There are two political parties in the US, but only one avenue for power, and that is money.
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u/JollyReading8565 28d ago
That’s how most corporations operate which is so frustrating that people don’t realize it: reds and blues are playing for their same masters.
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u/AncientsofMumu 28d ago
On this subject, I stopped buying Jack and a few other American bourbons that I like and have now got some Crown Royal instead.
It's nice stuff but please do us a favour and reduce the price a bit over here.
It's a bit pricey.
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u/ProduceIntelligent38 28d ago
For your enjoyment try PIKE CREEK - 10 YEAR OLD DOUBLE BARRELLED 750 ml | SKU: 545376 Made in Canada it's surprising how much it's like scotch! Only $40 cad.
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u/forfar4 28d ago
It's my nephew's birthday tomorrow (he's 24). Usually, I buy him a bottle of JD, but this year, it's true Mexican tequila. He doesn't like 'proper" whisky, so I couldn't get him any Canadian rye, so I went"next best thing" (politically).
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u/DINNERTIME_CUNT 28d ago
Why buy tequila when you could buy a nice mezcal?
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u/eunma2112 28d ago
Jack Daniel's owner donated to Trump.
A lot of those corporate business owners donate to both candidates/campaigns to stay in the good graces of whichever candidate wins.
Of course, they still deserve to be boycotted. But it doesn’t necessarily mean they support Trump. It’s basically just a business decision.
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u/LOLinDark 28d ago
We need to see these facts out there.
I don't drink it much anymore but regret that I have bought bottles in the past when it's part of a system that could be stupid enough to see Trump as Presidential material.
🚫 Jack Daniels 🚫
What's next on the list?
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u/rusticarchon 28d ago edited 27d ago
Boycott their colas. I hope you have a good local brand.
We have Barr's, based in Cumbernauld near Glasgow. Their cola is meh, but their signature drink Irn Bru (a sort of mixed-fruit flavour carbonated drink) is fantastic. Scotland is the only country in the world* where either Coca-Cola or Pepsi isn't the top-selling soft drink (Irn Bru is).
(*) With the caveats of Cuba and North Korea, but that's due to trade sanctions
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u/AddictedToRugs 28d ago edited 28d ago
Not buying it is the petition if that's your thing. The problem with petitions is they tell us nothing about how many people disagree with the demand; they're like an opinion poll that only has Yes as a possible answer.
If people keep buying it it means they don't agree with you; that's a counter-petition. And you wouldn't be trying to get it banned if you didn't think they were the majority.
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u/l1ckeur 28d ago
Englander here, but surely if it’s on display, that encourages people to try it, if they don’t know it’s piss, in the same way as if I see a malt whisky that I haven’t tasted or seen before then I will try it. Anyway, I am for anything that will upset the orange buffoon at the moment.
BTW I have never been tempted to try American whiskey.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_5710 28d ago
A petition to who? You can boycott what u want, but it isn’t anything to do with the government what whisky shops stock
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u/BigDsLittleD 28d ago
Can’t really call it whisky
They don't. It's a Whiskey.
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u/Lanzarote-Singer 28d ago
Ireland here. That’s our extra E so hands off yanks!
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u/Unplannedroute 28d ago
It was the Irish who moved into Appalachia and began brewing tho I'm Irish and have been to Jacks distillery too
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u/scotsman250 27d ago
To boycott you just stop buying it. And other people can make that choice. It takes a high level of narcissism to expect the your choice to be forced on everyone else.
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u/nilesintheshangri-la 28d ago
Scotland is full of much better choices of drink than that sludge. And it would help send a message to the slobbering us president and his minions. The worldwide condemnation of Dementia Don is a beautiful thing to see and I hope it continues to flourish and the americans maybe learn some humility for once.
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u/Essence-of-why 28d ago
Re your edit: Anyone calling pushing back against US expansionism 'woke' is a fucking cunt that doesn't know their ass from their gob. Am pure done in.
Cheers from Canada.
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u/Fantastic-Machine-83 28d ago
What if I just like cheap whisky?
r/Scotland has to be the most terminally online of all UK subs
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u/El_Scot 28d ago
Bourbon has a very different taste to whisky, so it's not a straight up replacement. Bourbon uses fresh casks, while whisky making tends to use second hand bourbon casks, because we want the seasoned wood to provide a different flavour profile.
We can switch away, but you're still indirectly supporting the bourbon market when you buy whisky, and you risk alienating one of our key export markets when you do, so I think it would be better to do it as an unofficial boycott rather than an organised protest.
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u/bacongorilla 28d ago
Just don't buy it? Why has everyone got to try and force their shit on someone else these days
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u/ftpxfer 28d ago
Exactly. Don't waste your time taking petitions to shops, they don't have to take any notice. Just make people aware, don't buy American stuff. The shops will get the message when they're stuck with stock they can't sell.
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u/NotADoctorB99 28d ago
Boycotts have been going on forever. Perhaps look into why they are called boycotts.
People just have a bigger platform to share information about them.
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u/bacongorilla 28d ago
Boycotting Is you choosing not to buy something, that's not what this is is it
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u/sammy_bananaz 28d ago
Because we live in a Thatcherite society where everyone is an individual and so no one cares about friends/allies, meaning very few understand the phrase united we stand divided we fall anymore.
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u/LitOak 28d ago
This comment section illustrates how little people understand what power they wield when they work together to achieve a common good.
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u/TiredMisanthrope Fifer 28d ago
Not really…
They are well aware of that fact, however there’s a difference between choosing not to buy it and having it removed from the shelves entirely, taking away someone’s choice.
Nothing is stopping people coming together and deciding not to buy it as part of a collective movement.
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u/bacongorilla 28d ago
Unity is not allowing every crackpot with an axe to grind, forcing their ideals on everyone else
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u/stattest 28d ago
I would say that it is a fair enough comment to make at this time due to world events.
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u/Kingbreadthe3rd 28d ago
Scotland exports the highest value of scotch whisky to the USA. I’m sure they wouldn’t do a tit for tat and stop the sale of scotch Whisky there..
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u/DINNERTIME_CUNT 28d ago
Are you sure? Last I checked India was the largest consumer of our whisky, followed by France.
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u/ThePorko 28d ago
American here, always shocked to see the burger king, pizza hut and subways when i visit. They are the lowest grade of food here in America and somehow thrives in the uk. If your gonna boycott, i would start with the crappy American fast food. Jack Daniels is like wholefoods compared to that poison.
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u/r_spandit 28d ago
Jack Daniels is like wholefoods compared to that poison.
If this comment is aimed at a non-American audience, I doubt most of them know what Wholefoods is
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u/Grimlord_XVII 28d ago
Actively encourage people to buy Scottish/Irish Whisky. Promote the fact that Jack Daniels is a cheap copy of the real deal, and that the taste reflects that fact. Its why "Jack & Coke" is one word, it needs a mixer to be drinkable.
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u/PreferenceAnxious449 28d ago
If the US did the same with Scotch Whisky we'd be a lot worse off.
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u/enterprise1701h 27d ago
Its so weird that people are trying to bycott US products but seem ok with products made by china in slave conditions, happy to use oil from saudi Arabia that treat women as nothing more then a thing to be used and still support foodbal clubs or sports which have sold out to middle easten counties...
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u/lucifero25 28d ago
Because not enough people actually give a shit about America they are more worried about paying their ever increasing utility bills, council tax, mortgages, car payments, spiralling rent costs to really give a shit about some American drink. Fs be realistic
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u/jj6725 28d ago
I guess we can start to care when he’s bored of Canada, Greenland etc and decides his golf courses are being treated very unfairly and that Scotland would make a great overseas territory. The people will love paying less taxes and have way better health coverage.
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u/sammy_bananaz 28d ago
This is a terrible argument. Trump is a tyrant and what he is doing is going to make us all significantly poorer so it's better to boycott US goods now and stand in solidarity with other countries now to force him to back down. If we take a 'this doesn't effect us let's carry on as normal' then the same tarrifs will come for us, the man is unstable.
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As an American, I fully support and encourage any and ALL boycotts over American products. Messages need to be sent as swiftly and strongly as possible because this place is beyond dumb. Thank you and the rational section of America loves you all!
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u/New-Pin-3952 28d ago edited 28d ago
Just don't buy it. Find alternative. It won't be the same but fuck it. I've not spent a £1 on American bourbon since the Orange Felon started his antics and it's by far my favourite drink. And I won't until him and his nazi friends are gone.
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u/Aggressive_Music_643 28d ago
An American says Thank You! Fully half of us despise that worthless piece of shit. Too bad that kid with a rifle had such bad aim.
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u/DraGOON_33 28d ago
I am from Canada and I truly, and deeply thank you for this. Even if it doesn't happen the fact that it should and was attempted is great. I was hurt by the lack of your PM / King speaking up for Canada. It would be great if the people stood with us.
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u/Haggis-in-wonderland 28d ago
Boycott away.
Remember to check what casks are used for your choice of malt though.
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u/OakAged 28d ago
This post is clearly getting brigaded, the amount of utter bellends taking such a strong view in favour of JD and dismissing your idea as pointless...
Every little helps. I actively avoid buying anything US made now. Stopped using Amazon years ago.
Cancelled netflix, switched to Firefox (charitable foundation that owns it) instead of chrome. Switching from Gmail to proton mail. Buyfromeu subreddit has loads of alternatives.
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u/Jebuschristo024 28d ago
You might be happy boycotting them OP, but the majority really don't give a shit
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u/Daedelous2k 28d ago
If you don't like it, don't buy it.
Won't stop others who enjoy it.
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u/Davido401 28d ago
I've stopped drinking Bud Light, Carlsberg for me now, if Tennents done ten packs at ma shop ad drink those, but the Carlsberg/Bid Light are both £9.73 and the 12 pack of Tennents are 12 quid odd - mibbe 13 quid odd, ave not been to the shop since Friday! (A use those beers as ma chaser/also a raging alkie whise managed to half ma drinking cause apparently ma Liver says naw)
Don't wanna give up ma Pepsi Max though!
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u/Prestigious_Ad6247 28d ago
Thanks from Nova Scotia. Would love to see more trade across the pond anyways. And let’s not forget too his threats against Greenland. Now, we all know he has disproportionately strong feelings about Scotland too, isn’t his Ma from there? Anyways, get rid of your windmills and buy his petrol or there’ll be hell to pay or something like that eventually.
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u/Fluffy_Vegetable_938 28d ago
Do we boycott walkers and smiths crisp as well. As they are owned buy Pepsi??
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u/chargedupchap 28d ago
You want to remove Jack Daniels because of it donating money to trump, I want it removed because it tastes like piss
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u/SnooTigers3833 28d ago
When I visited Scotland last year I got a laugh out of seeing Jack Daniels in pubs because Scotland has way better whisky.
I told my husband it’s for homesick Americans (something we definitely were not because Scotland and its people are absolutely lovely).
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u/SlinkyBits 28d ago
whisky is whisky. Jack daniels is something else. like an incomparable product.
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u/woobie_slayer 28d ago
As an American, I encourage this behavior, and hope removes all American products, everywhere.
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u/Impossible-Bit1717 28d ago
As an American I ask that you boycott all American made products.
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u/ResponsiblePlant3605 28d ago
Who drinks Jack Daniels in Scotland?!! I mean Scotland!
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u/CyberNinjaSensei 27d ago
As an American, who grew up in Kentucky, I would say y’all should do the petition just because it’s swill in a whiskey bottle 😂
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u/Row__Jimmy 27d ago
I don't know why you deface your pubs with Jack Daniel's in the first place. Ban our felon of a president and anything he has his family name on
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u/Sad_Advertising5520 27d ago
Ah yes. Petitions. Those things that always work, every time, without fail.
We haven’t had tariffs placed on us by the US, we’re not in a trade war with them, so why would we collectively boycott their products? Not everything that’s American is about Trump dude.
Your point about supporting local companies instead is valid though, and makes a lot of sense - just buy those products instead, encourage your friends and family to join you.
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u/BattMruno33 27d ago
So let me get this straight. America has been getting screwed for decades by paying tariffs and all Trump wants to do is have Mexico stop flooding America with illegals and do something about drugs coming into America, have Canada do something about drugs and illegals and have the rest of the world pay the same amount in tariffs as the US does?
We FINALLY have a President that refuses to get screwed over and the rest of the world whines about it! Screw you all! America will get by!
America first baby!!!!
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u/Elipticalwheel1 27d ago
Tax American Alcoholic drinks at 100%, that would be a much better idea.
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u/doIIjoints 26d ago
dear OP, don’t worry about the butthurt comments.
i’ve found out a lot of them aren’t even real people in situations like this, grok and chatGPT bots have been brigading almost every american-politics and uk-politics subject with “original looking” words. it gives the appearance of a majority agreeing with them.
a test i’ve found is to insult them in an oblique way. a human would get it, or at least be confused or pissed off, while the bots go on a tangent explaining something inane about your wording/phrasing.
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u/AngryDesignMonkey 28d ago
I'm from the US (hangs head in shame) and fully support this idea. I like how Canada is targeting Republican states/products.
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u/LitOak 28d ago
Drambuie is quite nice if you like bourbon and are looking for an alternative.
We should all boycott US goods as far as we can and with hindsight, should have been doing this for quite some time by now. This comment section has been quite depressing with all the people ridiculing the idea as if small actions don't add up to quite a lot when a lot of people do them.
Paying a bit more for local or non-US alternatives is a tiny sacrifice compared to the harm that the US has caused in the last two months and will continue to cause until Republican's are out of power. At the very least they need to be encouraged to discontinue their aggressive rhetoric on Greenland, Canada, Mexico and the Panama Canal and to stand by Ukraine until Russia withdraws from their invasion.
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u/MissMyotis 27d ago
As an American living in California, I recommend boycotting Jack Daniels. The boycotts in Canada are hitting the company hard (1st link below). I heard rumor that the Brown Forman Corp (owner of Jack Daniels, Woodford Reserve, and others) donated to the fascist 47's campaign. I have tried to Google to find a solid source on this but came up empty handed. Brown-Forman Corp DID donate gift bags to all who attended the fascist's inauguratoon though (2nd link below). I'm slso reasonably sure that most whiskey made in Scotland is a whole lot better than Jack.
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u/Xenos_redacted_Scum 28d ago
Yeh I ve already started boycotting yank goods.
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u/Zealousideal-Habit82 28d ago
Reddit is American.
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u/gee666 28d ago
Boycotting does not need to be total. Reducing use or consumption by 20% is going to hurt a business and make them take notice. The point is for everyone to try just a little bit.
Next time you're in the supermarket if you usually buy a handful of American products, try switching out a couple for another countries version if available. Drop one streaming service, stop using social media as much (they measure everything, they'll soon notice a drop in use)
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u/MyDarlingArmadillo 28d ago
I came across this a few days ago and it's been pretty good so far https://www.bankrupttrump.org/ - you can type in the name of the shop you're avoiding or just what you want to buy eg financial services or stationery.
I used to buy a lot from Amazon - Bezos attended the inauguration and contributed money, so I've stopped that as much as possible. For books, Blackwells was actually cheaper than Amazon
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u/formulaeface 28d ago
90% of my book purchases come from World of Books. Mostly secondhand. You should give it a bash.
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u/CollReg 28d ago
I’m a big World Of Books user, so have finally got round to exploring their ownership.
Despite the cute ‘founded by a group of friends’ story on their website, they’re currently owned by a British private equity firm called Livingbridge. Probably preferable to Blackwells/Waterstones who are owned by US private equity firm Elliot Investment Management. And clearly more ethical than Amazon.
Interested to hear of any other alternatives with better ownership structures (peak would be a co-op but I’d take family run or UK listed) who still do good value for the consumer.
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u/zoltar1970 28d ago
Used the website to find an alternative to Reddit. Top result is Mumsnet!
Other websites I've used for books are Awsomebooks and World of books. All the books I've bought have been cheaper than Amazon
Edit: Sorry, just noticed there's already mentions for World of Books. Should read further on before posting!
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u/Q-Kat 28d ago
The advice is always "Where Possible"
You don't need to have complete adherence which is why target goods are chosen to focus the message.
Closing social media accounts like Facebook and Twitch, choosing non American products or just straight up abandoning a luxury good is great.
Sadly can't avoid Mastercard/Visa without harm to yourself but maybe an appetite for it would give a UK or euro company a chance to rise.
You do what you can when you can
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u/Nx-worries1888 28d ago
Remember cut up your Mastercard and Visa cards as well. This whole boycott all American companies on Reddit is hilarious. People boycotting only what suits them 😂
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u/Oddshit1 28d ago
Just don't buy it. Simples. Problem is, the retailer will suffer.
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u/CONKERMANIAC 28d ago
They’ll suffer, and if they have any sense they will fill the shelves with a different variety of whisky.
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u/meldariun 28d ago
Im pretty sure Scottish bottle shops will hardly take notice. Its mainly supermarkets that sell the stuff and tesco is hardly going to die if we drink locally made spirits.... Its not like we are the biggest gin producers and have our own protected single malt industry or anything
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u/Wild-Ad6593 28d ago
Tenesse and Burbon have their taste but are easy to replace for nice grain whiskies in Scotland
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u/aviationinsider 28d ago
Unlike Canada, for the UK to have a serious boycott would take the US nuking Canterbury cathedral. Even then be like will if you can't boycott everything what's the point ? "Didn't you know wheetabix is US owned?" Ah well I'm gonna go buy a Tesla on Amazon.
It's always the, but but but hypocrisy if you still do xyz mob that come along. Sure it's very difficult to boycott all US owned services, because they own so much. The UK has been sold off, look at ARM that should never have been sold to SoftBank, it was one of the few big league companies we had. but no, flog all the best stuff cheap to prove how great we are post Brexit.
Boycott as much as you can, it makes a difference, choose the big players kill Amazon, Facebook and any Musk related grabage, these are the big players in the US around trump.
The only one of those I have left is whatsapp, due to work contacts.
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u/RudnitzkyvsHalsmann 28d ago
No, just don't buy it. It hurts them a lot more to have unsold stock all over the place without warning.
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u/Grouchy_Buffalo_2137 28d ago
Finished the one i had in house last week. Now looking at alternative. Canadian Club or maybe Jamesons. Unfortunately I just don’t like any of the mainstream Scottish whisky. Open to suggestions if anyone knows something local thats more like bourbon.
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28d ago
Y'all idiots know he imposed tariffs on the EU too, right?
edit in case y'all are fucking stupid: Yes he "paused" his tariffs, but fuck you think he's gonna do in the long run?
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u/Settlermaggie 28d ago
Canadian here, we've removed American booze from all our shelves and appreciate the support.
Funny I made another post a little over a week ago, worried that my partner and I would be mistook for American on our visit in May and wondered if Anti American sentiment there was rising. Got some somewhat rude replies that 'no one cares about you or Americans as much as you think we do' yadda yadda. Which ok fine, but that seems to have changed pretty quickly as I suspected.
Thank you for the empathy it's getting pretty scary over here 💜
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u/Thatanndradona 28d ago
In Ontario; we have taken it ALL off the shelves. Not just JD. No American vodka, wine, bourbon, rum etc etc If you like JD, drink Crown Royal or Canadian Club, instead. A little less sweet but a close replacement.
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28d ago
I’m American, please boycott us!! We’re trying to organize to boycott all we can, we need help! Trump reversed course on tariffs when the stock market was crashing, they listen to money. Specially Tennessee whiskey is made in a MAGA state and will send a stronger message.
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u/bigsort72 28d ago
Dont forget to remove all your plastic items and electronic tech made in China , along with all your cheap shite clothes made in India and Bangladesh if its human rights you care about ...
hypocrisy
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u/yourlatestwingman 28d ago
If people stop buying it, they will stop ordering/stocking it, simple economics
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u/Formal-Blood-4208 28d ago
Get a fucking grip ya sad weapon 😂😂😂. Going by this post it'll be craft beers only with barnibus in the west end taverna.
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u/BoxAlternative9024 28d ago
I love a JD and coke. Certainly won’t be boycotting it because some hypocritical woke type on Reddit doesn’t like the taste. 😆😆
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u/twistedLucidity Better Apart 28d ago
Why just JD, why not everything owned by Brown-Forman? This would include the produce of at least 3 Scottish distilleries.
Also anything made Coca-Cola etc. Taco Bell, Burger King, McDonald's, and KFC too.
Budweiser too maybe? Whilst it's actually Belgian, it should be boycotted on the basis that it's shit.