r/Silksong • u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe • 22h ago
Silksong hype! To those worried about the 2025 release window
Just wanted to compile all the little things, of which there are a lot, from least to most important, that differ from that traumatic Xbox event. These all make me optimistic that this window is serious.
[1] Leth's comments in Janurary this year. He tended to add things that hinted towards a release sooner rather than later, especially when viewing them in retrospect. Saying things like:
- "There are great (and fair) questions in here, but the answers to these will have to wait until later. I can't spill all the details yet."
- Responding to "So the game is just that big huh?" he said "You'll see"
- "I've played the game but can't say much more than that (for now)."
- There is also Ari Gibson himself saying to a fan that it would be "soon" around then, too.
[2] Information (both verified and not) about Silksong shortly before the direct. About a week before the showcase, we had a supposed leaker state that Silksong had an internal deadline given to Xbox slated between April-June, an official article from Xbox mentioning Silksong alongside other games releasing soon, and manual SteamDB changes that include the first copyright change in 6 years as well as a toggle to opt in for Nvidia cloud gaming (which apparently points toward later development).
[3] Responding to a post asking whether Silksong or Crowsworn would release first, Leth, who is managing both games, said there is no doubt Silksong will release first. Crowsworn is slated for 2026 or later.
[4] Leth updated his banner on twitter to new key art of Hornet after the showcase. This can be viewed as a form of marketing, or a precursor to a bigger campaign. Even if it isn't, this is official acknowledgement of Silksong's appearance at the showcase, which includes the publicly displayed release year. Nothing like this happened after the Xbox showcase, with Leth saying afterwards in an interview (and I'm paraphrasing) that he wasn't sure if Team Cherry could make it. Thus I imagine Leth is taking this release window much more seriously, knowing Team Cherry is finally ready to hit the deadline.
[5] The release window was associated directly with Silksong in the showcase as opposed to a blanket statement for all the games. This one is the big one! Having the year alongside the game's title is HUGE! You can't deny it and say it's a general year given to all the other games in the showcase, especially because every other game in the sizzle reel had their own dates.
Hopefully this gives people who are worried some hope. The world needs more of that.
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u/TadaiNeko 22h ago
Have you all forgotten that leth retweeted the announcement from Nintendo ? Like this careful guy that was only dropping very small hints straight up retweeted the announcement that said that silksong would release this year. It’s official guys, idk what yall are on rn
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u/JakovYerpenicz 19h ago
And yet we still don’t have a release date
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u/OliveMXS beleiver ✅️ 18h ago
We have a release RANGE, but they'll probably announce a release date within the coming months.
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u/Honk_goose_steal beleiver ✅️ 21h ago
I’m very confident in the release window, and honestly even the 3 seconds of Jew footage fully convinced me that this game is gonna be worth the wait. It looks beautiful
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u/SicSemperFelibus 17h ago
Confirmed: Hornet isn't void, she's challah.
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u/Honk_goose_steal beleiver ✅️ 10h ago
That’s why Silksong was taking so long, Hornet was practicing for her Bat-mitswa
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u/Every-Marketing9289 beleiver ✅️ 20h ago
Imo this was the most direct "hint" Leth dropped in the discord:
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u/catking2004 Flea 22h ago
Yeah, theres no reason to doubt this release window. Too much has happened in the last month and after the direct too. Doubters are the ones coping now XD
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u/JizzX69 beleiver ✅️ 21h ago
This!
Last night I made a similar post to this one of yours (https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1jrugxj/interesting_info_i_rediscovered/) because I rediscovered a video from T4co from 2022 talking about a possible release date. We must remain hopeful that we will get it this time.
Also about the Nvidia thing, I remember I saw this comment https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1jihiak/comment/mjfcq1w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button when that happened (before the direct), and it gave me more hope about it releasing soon. So now that we have 2025 confirmed, I can't wait!
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 21h ago
Wow that's really insightful! Really puts into perspective just how much more serious this release window is. I'd honestly throw this all under number 5.
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u/No-Protection-2131 20h ago
Another reason I have to be hopeful is the Direct appearance was pointless really, the Switch 2 is backwards compatible anyway so we didn't need to be told Silksong will be on it. If TC weren't confident in 2025 they just wouldn't have bothered, we already know they're more than happy to not appear at showcases.
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u/TTacco 8h ago
This is my take away as well. If they still weren't sure they could've easily stayed silent just like what happened in 2024. Sure people will grumble, make memes and petitions blah blah like the usual, but overall not like anyone can do much about it given the precedent for comms is like that since forever anyway.
But not only did they intentionally have that in the Switch 2, we also had Leth actually acknowledging it on his Twitter unlike what happened in Xbox.
Definitely feels like a "OK, NOW were much more sure we can hit the deadline and avoid a similar Xbox mishap "(which as another comment here said, its not like they were the only games that missed that Xbox deadline)
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u/Minti-Roze Sharpe 22h ago
Imagine they delay it again and we get the sequel to hey gang.
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 22h ago
That'd be just as exciting as the sequel to HK. The community would explode
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u/Pavonian Shaw! 15h ago
It's important to remember that many other games in the Xbox event in 2022 also missed the 'next 12 months' release window, which to me points to the problem having been on Xbox's end (i.e. them pushing developers to say 'we might be able to make that deadline' and then accepting that as a 100% commitment) and not on Team Cherries end, which I imagine is why future Xbox events haven't done the 12 months release window thing
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u/CanadianGroose doubter ❌️ 12h ago
I fully believe they plan to release the game in late 2025. But they could easily run into more feature creep or tariff issues, or who knows what else. If we don’t see more info or gameplay at Summer Game Fest, we need to be worried again.
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 10h ago
Sure yeah I also think it’d be a problem for them to release it late this year anyway after giving us the date, given how risky it’d be. You’d possibly miss the deadline you set for yourself if you could only barely make it.
So yeah if we don’t hear more by June I’ll be a bit worried, too.
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u/CanadianGroose doubter ❌️ 9h ago
A year is not a “date”. Is it a wide timeframe. A date is a specific month and day, which have not been provided.
They clearly will wait until the Switch launches at earliest (June 5th). How Nintendo canceling pre-orders makes things interesting. If the Switch 2 itself is delayed, does Silksong get delayed too and it is coming to switch 2, and they stated they want all platforms launch day?
My guess is Oct/Nov with a release date trailer at Summer Games Fest or one of those other showcases in the Summertime.
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 9h ago
Sure yeah I meant release window not date. A release window still contains a deadline which is the end of the window, and that’s the point I’m making. They wouldn’t want to cut that deadline close. That’s why I don’t think it’s coming later this year. Also Leth said at some point that he doesn’t like releasing games later in the year.
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u/CanadianGroose doubter ❌️ 1h ago
I wouldn’t consider October that late in the year. They probably want to avoid the actual Launch of the Switch 2, as all those people will be buying MarioKart, and it might also be weeks to launch Silksong and deltarune the same time?
Just feels way too early when all we got was 5 seconds of new footage. Still hoping for Summer Game fest as a showcase of the game since we still know very very little. Then a release date 2-3 months after to give time for people to pre-order and build hype. Most normal people have already forgotten about the game.
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u/Mayasuxs 17h ago
Thank you for this, I don't follow silksong news THAT closely so when I saw the date I was concerned it'd be the same as the past one and nothing would release. Bit more hopeful now!
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u/Lee-bungalow 7h ago
I’ll believe it when it releases and nothing more ,which I think is fair considering how things have gone
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 1h ago
Of course yeah. It’s hard to take anything 100% seriously considering it’s not coming from Team Cherry’s mouth, but at least there is more pointing towards this one than anything in the past
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u/Uppernorwood 21h ago
I’m not worried.
I just don’t believe it’s certain to release in 2025.
I was resigned 2 years ago to it never releasing, so now I’ll play it when I play it.
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 21h ago
Sure that's fair. Hopefully you at least consider this window more likely than the Xbox one, as there is more to suggest so.
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u/_9x9 doubter ❌️ 20h ago
I don't consider this window more likely than the xbox one.
I agree that there is more to suggest this one is true. A lot more even. But back then even with the relatively limited information I was completely convinced. "It's Xbox, they would know when its coming out"
After that didn't happen I reevaluated my thinking.
So now even with all this evidence I am not fully convinced. Likely? Sure. But I've been surprised before. I'll just wait and see.
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u/Kooperking22 19h ago
Tbh even when the game is actually released there will still be some small group that still won't believe it . Years of Dissapointment and false information has given many actual PTSD
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u/VerraTheDM doubter ❌️ 22h ago
This cat and mouse game of doubters and believers will not end until the game is in our hands.
Would you rather it any other way?
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u/artsy_drag beleiver ✅️ 22h ago
It won’t end even when we have the game. The community has too much inertia
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u/artsy_drag beleiver ✅️ 22h ago
At best it will take us a week to accept the games release. At worst we will never accept the games release and continue our game of cat and mouse
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u/iforgotiwasonreddit We are still hard at work on the game 18h ago
Is that one “voice actor” account still active or did they delete everything?
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 10h ago
I think they deleted everything, supposedly out of fear.
I was always on their side because their account seemed pretty convincing, but obviously anyone could just do it. Thus it can’t directly support anything, so I didn’t talk about it in my post.
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u/MicrowavedTheBaby beleiver ✅️ 17h ago
It will come out in December
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 10h ago
I’d die 😂
Probably not tho. They wouldn’t put out a date like that if they could just barely make it… unless they just wanna release it then even though it’s finished already which would be EVIL
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u/jj_olli doubter ❌️ 18h ago
That sounds like a lot of copium. Xbox mentioned Silksong explicitly for the 12 month video in 2022 in regards to 2023 and Leth said that they, as in Team Cherry, would be sharing information.
Why aren't they retweeting anything in regards to Silksong 2025 why aren't they giving a statement on Twitter or releasing a press release? Because they themselves aren't sure that it's going to be this year, I'd guess.
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 10h ago
I can understand that many people are in denial after SO long of nothing concrete, but this is the most concrete information we’ve gotten on Silksong’s release, including the Xbox direct (because of #5).
Also, Leth did retweet Nintendo’s tweet about Silksong coming this year. See #4 as to why that’s relevant.
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u/jj_olli doubter ❌️ 10h ago
Then why wouldn't he just confirm the release year?
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 10h ago
That’s a good question.
I could see multiple things, but it would be nice to get some transparent, direct communication like with Toby Fox. At least an answer to something like this question. One reason I could see is that he doesn’t want to make concrete claims on behalf of Team Cherry, regardless of how sure he is of them. Another is that he could be worried about backlash. Another is that he feels they would be redundant, given it was already said multiple times by Nintendo. This last one is what I personally believe.
I think a retweet of the release year from Nintendo is close enough, and while saying it himself would be reassuring, it would be redundant information. Some people wouldn’t be satisfied with that still because it has been so long. It’s like when people ask for him if TC is progressing nicely, he says yes, and people are still unsure.
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u/jj_olli doubter ❌️ 9h ago
"he doesn't want to make concrete claims on behalf of team cherry", because they know that it could slip out of 2025 into 2026 or later, again.
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 9h ago
Nice job cherry-picking something I’ve said to fit your narrative.
I’m saying that stating it in words is different than through Team Cherry’s trailer and Nintendo’s post which he retweeted. I’m saying he might just want important information to come from the team in some way going forward so that it’s more official. Whether or not he’s sure of it is irrelevant to this. I mean, would you honestly be more convinced if he said “Team Cherry plans to release Hollow Knight: Silksong this year” than a retweet of what is essentially the exact same thing?
I was trying to be kind with you as I understand why’d you be pessimistic, but this is just downright pathetic.
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u/THEP0LE 19h ago
they believed the game would be ready in a year in 2022 its been 3 years since then almost what sto say they haven't underestimated the window again.
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u/CuteDarkrai Sharpe 10h ago edited 10h ago
Probably numbers 1-5
But to be less facetious, I’m not sure that they took that date as serious. Sure, this window isn’t guaranteed. It’ll never be. I just think the main argument against this is the fact that there is more evidence to suggest this date is more concrete than last time. We can only go based off of the past, and this is more than we’ve ever gotten in the past.
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u/Specialist-Offer7816 21h ago
Please release ASAP so GTA 6 doesn’t hurt sales
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u/Consistent-Plane7729 Sharpe 21h ago
leth has extensively talked before about how indie games shouldn't release late in the year because that is when big AAA games release, and gta 6 has been confirmed to come out fall 2025. so unless team cherry delay which would be catastrophic, they probably wont release anytime after september
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u/FutyfootyButybooty beleiver ✅️ 17h ago
Even if they do release late 2025 it wont hurt the games sales much at all. Silksong is one of the most anticipated games of all time, and kept a 6 year streak for most wishlisted on steam. Not to mention GTA 6, when it does release, will only release on consoles and not on PC (not until a solid year later). Will it still be affected? Sure. Will it hurt the games popularity and initial income? Not likely.
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u/TTacco 8h ago
Also I don't think there is a huge player base overlap either.
Lets be honest, GTA has a much more public presence and is a lot more popular than HK, but those eyeing Silksong is already a much dedicated fan to begin with who is directly looking to buy it asap anyway.
Worst case yeah it's gonna eat the popularity online a lot more but I really doubt its gonna be a big enough problem that it will impact sales given the fanbase.
(Also while it's not that comparable today anymore, this is TC were talking about, AKA the same devs who said they were actually happy that HK was under BOTW's radar during release because that meant that the attention wasn't shifted at them, giving them an easier time with bug fixing)
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u/Galaxycc_ beleiver ✅️ 21h ago
Oh also, the tweet William sent yesterday which when traced back to a poem gives us the date July 15th so possible release date leak as well. Also happens to be two days after my cake day!
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u/MuseHigham beleiver ✅️ 22h ago
I agree team cherry are extremely unlikely to delay the game again. I imagine they have chosen this release date VERY carefully. They know how anticipated their game is, they know they messed up last time with the Xbox release window and they will NOT want to make that mistake again. They specifically chose to put silksong in this direct saying it'll come out in 2025.