r/SipsTea 1d ago

Wait a damn minute! College scammed them

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u/No-Cap-9873 1d ago

Colleges are the biggest scammers; they are just a company. They don't give a shit about you, only your money.

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u/NotAzakanAtAll 1d ago

Doesn't have to be, here in Sweden you get paid to attend collage.

But I also understand if you are sick and tired of hearing about things you don't have but do deserve.

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u/AnxiousHippoplatypus 1d ago

Alright, that's it. Let's put a tariff on Sweden and give Americans free education and healthcare.

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u/Dreamsnaps19 21h ago

Best offer is tariffs for Sweden. No healthcare or education. Take it or leave it.

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u/cryptolyme 17h ago

And everyone hates you

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u/Polipore 15h ago

Wait stop, my nic pouches are from Sweden

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u/AnxiousHippoplatypus 4h ago

That's just your first taste of free, preventative healthcare.

Next you know it, corn and sugar will be more expensive than produce. Just kidding, America runs on Dunkin.

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u/footballfan104 1d ago

I wonder what allows Sweden to do this, but not America….

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u/Significant-Colour 1d ago

Swedes are interested in that, so they vote for such policies - and they can afford it.

Americans could afford that, but they are not interested in having tuitionless education, thus they do not vote for such policies; that's okay, they simply have different priorities, such as attacking Canada and Greenland.

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u/clementinesncupcakes 22h ago

Hey, it’s not as simple as “vote for what you want!” when American corporations spend literal billions of dollars to ensure your votes don’t count or that the ballots are so verbose that you can’t figure out what you are voting for because of the insane amount of jargon.

Here’s an article about some of the wilder ones:

https://www.propublica.org/article/five-of-the-most-confusing-ballots-in-the-country

I respect that America brands itself as a democracy, but it’s not. It hasn’t been for a very long time. We’re subject to the whims of the ruling class.

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u/Significant-Colour 19h ago

That's fair, but was there anything like that reported recently, like in the 2024 presidential election, for instance?

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u/clementinesncupcakes 18h ago

Hah! I wish that I could use verbiage as an excuse for Trump’s election. Unfortunately, that part of the ballot is a check box next to a name. There are usually around 12-50 names with check boxes on a given ballot in California for different local, county, and federal positions.

It’s the propositions that offer us basic human privileges, though, and that’s why they like to keep them obtuse and illegible.

PS sorry for being so bitter earlier. I just found out that they’re cutting funding for my school. We do Alzheimer’s research, and I know for a fact most people agree with alzherimer’s research, but pundits have packaged it like we’re just farting around. So I’m sad and taking it out on everyone, sorry for that.

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u/YourNextHomie 18h ago

Every nation is subject to the whims of the ruling class

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u/clementinesncupcakes 18h ago

Ain’t that the truth my friend. 😢

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u/splatdyr 21h ago

Denmark too.

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u/NotAzakanAtAll 3h ago

For sure! And Finland, Norway etc

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u/MrP3rs0n 20h ago

Im 6 figures in debt after graduating from a public state college

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u/NotAzakanAtAll 3h ago

That, and your healthcare situation, even if I don't live there, disgusts me. The US have the economy, the people, the tech, everything, to make it work. It seems many Americans think that if you US are doing it - it HAS to be the best there is. Exceptionalism as it's finest.

I feel for you. Cannot be great starting out your adult life with that bagage.

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u/Creative-Name3757 11h ago

Doctor shortage

USA logic- raise tuition for doctors because they are now getting higher salaries so the oligarchs need their scalping off the peasants.

Cuba - 👀

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u/NotAzakanAtAll 4h ago

Yeah, that's the dumbest thing they could do. They should be forced to cut tuition for jobs that are needed. Like, at the very least.

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u/flat5 5h ago

Sweden only works as the 51st state.

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u/YourNextHomie 18h ago

Yeah and it comes out of your taxes either way you are paying for it

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u/NotAzakanAtAll 3h ago

And you know what? That's a vastly better way of doing it than presume the parents or teens are independently rich.

Better for the economy, R&D, and equality. Look up some stats on scientists per capita, 8100 to the US's 4500. It works, it has always worked.

Source: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.SCIE.RD.P6?locations=SE&most_recent_value_desc=true

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u/Complex_Quail_1158 1d ago

Let me know how that goes when you have 30% of our population, because right now it’s less than 13%. Which is clearly impossible for someone like you to compute on a grand scale. Your country is a single straw on a stack and nobody gives a shit about you. Oh by the way, how strong is your cool military? Yeah, we would destroy your entire country in seconds if we wanted, but keep talking like you’re being. We don’t mind. We know who the big player in this game is!

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u/DoctorKall 13h ago

bait used to be believable

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u/Significant-Colour 1d ago

You couldn't even find the country on the map.

And what military - the one that lost in Afghanistan, sheepishly leaving defeated? The one that lost in Vietnam, sheepishly leaving defeated?

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u/YourNextHomie 18h ago

Afghanistan failed itself

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u/Complex_Quail_1158 23h ago

Vietnam, yes. Afghanistan…absolutely not. Either way, we both know those were the poor choices of politicians. That has nothing to do with it. You have “free” college because other countries protect you. You are insignificant to the rest of the world. Period. There is no argument for that. Your country is weak and nobody cares what you think or what you do because you have zero impact on anyone but yourself. The US, on the other hand is the sole reason your country exists right now. It’s only because we are good human beings that we haven’t made the entire world “the United States of Earth”. If you don’t think we could, you’ve lost your god damned mind. Peace to all, man. But know your place and know your history. It’s ok that your country is weak. It’s not a reflection of you. Just don’t speak to others like your country is. Again, know your place.

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u/searchingsalamander 15h ago

i can’t tell if you’re being serious with these comments lol

you say Sweden is insignificant as if you yourself are significant at all... the Swedish live in one of the happiest countries in the world, i can guarantee you that they don’t give a shit about the US military

but hey, at least you got that strong military to “protect” you, to hell with happiness!

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u/Stunning_Owl5063 1d ago

Colleges/Universities are free in a lot of countries...

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u/Rydux7 16h ago

Not im America.

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u/TheFloridaKraken 1d ago

ehhh.. My university went out of their way to help me quite a bit. A lot of my professors were really awesome. Far better than any boss/supervisor I've ever had. YMMV

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u/Alexis_Mcnugget 1d ago

you think they did that for free lol?

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u/Foreign_Sky_5441 1d ago

Also like, ofc professors are separate from the admin. That's sort of like saying "Starbucks is a great company because my barista is nice to me". Professors aren't the one dictating the price or how much conjoined twins have to pay.

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u/Alexis_Mcnugget 1d ago

fair but most professors are terrible at their job anyways

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u/Foreign_Sky_5441 1d ago

Idk, I hated my college passionately by the end of it but had mostly positive views of all my professors except maybe the few who graded unfairly.

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u/Ok-Butterscotch-6955 1d ago

Their job is usually primarily research, not teaching.

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u/Estanho 21h ago

In my university, I only had like 3 actually bad professors out of several dozen which ranged from decent to excellent (computer engineering).

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u/Well_Thats_Not_Ideal 1d ago

With the amount of unpaid work academics do if they care about their students, yeah basically

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u/Alexis_Mcnugget 1d ago

I guess i’ll give it to the 3% who actually care

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u/talented-dpzr 1d ago

My experience with professors is they care about as much as you care about actually learning. If you're just there to collect credits, graduate, and get a corporate job they aren't going to go out of their way for you. If you actually have an interest in the material and show you do the readings they will take the time and put in the effort for you.

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u/Alexis_Mcnugget 21h ago

i’ve seen this be the case for very few professors while the rest might as well be subs

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u/Darnell2070 22h ago

Good for you

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u/relativelyjewish 1d ago

How much would they have helped without paying up to $20k per year 🤭

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u/bigwangersoreass 1d ago

I got a lot of help and I only paid $4000 for my entire masters. All 4 years lmao

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u/relativelyjewish 1d ago

Paying $4000 for a masters isn't the steal you think it is 😅 Would really like to know what field it is.... 😬

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u/bigwangersoreass 1d ago

Oh I’ll laugh with you it’s financial economics lmao it’s not fancy at all

Thankfully my school was super helpful with job fairs which lead to job offers. You don’t need to pay a ton for your degree to land a good job.

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u/relativelyjewish 13h ago

Well it's just a lot of high demand fields the masters and PhDs are either entirely free plus give a monthly stipend to live on, or free plus a stipend if you teach classes. Idk to me paying $4000 seems like a lot

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u/ShaoShaoTenks 1d ago

As if you can get help in this world without paying up. Professional help needs professionals who actually spent their time to do "help" properly. Who knew!

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u/relativelyjewish 1d ago

Look comparing a professor you are paying for mentorship to a boss' mentorship at a company you're being paid to work at is just kinda objectively stupid. Which is what they were doing

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u/Ultrace-7 13h ago

How much do you help people for free when you have bills to pay?

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u/relativelyjewish 13h ago edited 10h ago

Eh, none, unless they're interning at my company or working for cheap. What exactly is your point? I think any mentorship that goes for $20,000 per year is pretty overvalued.

Top comment ITT: "Colleges are the biggest scammers; they are just a company. They don't give a shit about you, only your money."

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u/EtTuBiggus 1d ago

Because you paid them to.

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u/TheFloridaKraken 20h ago

I had a full ride scholarship thanks to Florida's Bright Futures.

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u/EtTuBiggus 4h ago

They paid them to. Same difference.

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u/atlaskennedy 1d ago

Are you thinking that’s the norm? Mine went well out of their way to hound me for money lol.

Also, professors shouldn’t treat you like supervisors, because they’re professors…

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u/ghdana 22h ago

Because you could decide to not pay them next semester and go somewhere else.

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u/Rare_Polnareff 1d ago

This is not a universal truth. Not even close.

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u/Embarrassed-Weird173 1d ago

You're right. It's a university truth.

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u/SpiralSiul 1d ago

In defense of college, mine pretty much gave me a solid ride. No debt but worked comfortably to pay it off each semester. They even helped me pay for new glasses when I broke mine. Depends on the college I guess.

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u/Isoiata 1d ago

Maybe that’s true in the US, but it isn’t in large parts of the world. Collage education is free in Sweden and they aren’t privately owned. It is free in many other countries as well, and in others it’s highly subsidized.

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u/depressed_baklava 1d ago

Colleges do a lot of scummy stuff but they aren’t companies. Companies are built to profit, universities are not profit driven (or at least most aren’t)

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u/touchitsuperhard 1d ago

That's what happens when you both apply to college as seperate identities but one body.

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u/BluePony1952 1d ago

Basically, yeah. I went to a trade school, which is required for the field I wanted to work in. Only 52 schools in the US are accredited. I got in, and was one class short of passing. The class I failed was graded to a standard of only allowing 90's (90% of answers being correct) to pass. If you got below 90 on one test, you failed the entire class. I got 83, and failed the entire class.

The next semester, the college lost accreditation. No refunds. No apologies. Nothing.

Colleges want your money, by any means necessary, and there is no real world accountability for academic fraud.

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u/evilMTV 1d ago

To be fair, I don't really give a shit about the school, I'm only there for the (future potential) money

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u/TheGreatSciz 23h ago

People that never went to college have such strong opinions about it. Google “land grant college”. That will make you reconsider your whole world view

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u/KingsGuardTR 23h ago

Are you feeling this for all higher education institutions in the world in general, or is it mere r/usdefaultism?

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u/Ok_Confection_8593 23h ago

I’m not paying university to be my therapist, I’m paying for an education lol I don’t care if they “care about me” just like I don’t care if the barista at Starbucks “cares about me”…I just care about the product or service given

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u/cancerinos 20h ago

I got paid to go to college. To take a masters degree. To take a PhD. In fact, I got paid more to study than a lot of school teachers get paid in america.

America is just backwards medieval fucked up.

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u/JockStrapFaceMan 16h ago

Non-profit colleges are the antithesis of a company. It's in the name "non profit".

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u/No-Fruit-2060 1d ago

The only people who say this are the ones who didn’t do well or even go to college.

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u/Eighth_Octavarium 1d ago

I wouldn't call college a scam, but it is overpriced as fuck for what it is and there is a lot of misleading discourse around it causing people to go for it that would be better off doing something else. I'm a hiring manager, and if I'm not hiring for one of our highly specialized roles requiring highly specialized knowledge, I honestly forget to even look for degrees because they mean so little to me. If I had to pick someone with a degree and no work experience or someone with work experience and no degree I'm probably going for the person with work experience if it's halfway decent and the role requires no extremely meaningful specific expertise. The worst thing schools do is tell kids to just get any degree they want. College is only worth it if you leave with a concrete, tangible, USEFUL skill in a specific discipline. I graduated debt free thanks to a scholarship that paid for like 3/4ths of my schooling but I don't think my bachelors degree would have been a value add in my life otherwise because I went for a stupid degree. The job that kicked off my corporate career was also almost entirely thanks to my work experience and not my degree.

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u/alejandrocab98 19h ago

Listen, you have your own anecdotal experience and make good points regarding how to go about college if you do it and how not everyone benefits. However, based on studies that don’t even take into account factors like majors, individuals who go to college on average earn $1 million more lifetime earnings than their peers who did not go to college.

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u/SFXtreme3 1d ago

Was one willing to be blindfolded and wear hearing protection? If not, then two people took the class.

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u/NotMyGovernor 1d ago

All their degrees, at least in science, are geared towards teaching you mainly what they would want you to know to be an unpaid or nearly unpaid research assistant / post grad there.