r/SnyderCut • u/HumbleSiPilot77 • 3d ago
Appreciation Regeneration...
The scene from Snyder’s Justice League captures Superman's regenerative process in such a powerful and mythic way. The black suit wasn't just a visual nod; it symbolized his rebirth and reconnection with Kryptonian heritage while still embracing the hope he represents on Earth. Standing in front of the rising sun, soaking in its energy, he was calm, resolute, and embodying strength, not screaming in pain or relying on some mechanical contraption. It was poetic, transcendent, and true to the essence of Superman.
Moments like that remind us why Snyder's vision resonates with fans—it respects the character’s legacy and elevates him to an almost godlike status, while still keeping him deeply human.
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u/ATK12466 1d ago
Superman in the sneak peek was beaten up to the point that he was not able to fly else he also would have done this. By the way, when your 14 fractured bones are moving and regenerating, wouldn't it pain? You people just like giving hate.
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 1d ago
The issue isn’t whether it hurts Superman to heal, of course it would. The problem is how the scene handles that pain. A moment like this could carry weight, showing Superman’s resilience or the stakes of his vulnerability. Instead, the scene feels more like superficial spectacle without exploring the emotional or narrative depth behind his suffering. Criticizing the execution isn’t hate, it’s about expecting the storytelling to match the potential of such a powerful moment. That moment didn't look powerful as it should have been at all.
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u/sleauxmo 1d ago
I don't think it's hate. The sneak peek and much of the promotion for Gunn's Supes has been totally mismanaged. Bad pictures trying to showcase the suit, the googly eye thing, and a niche trailer showcasing a CGI dog and a broken down Superman. The sneak peek in particular should have showcased Supes in a different light, imo. The only redeemable quality was the Fortress moving the way it did. The robot dialogue was incongruent and the lens thing with the sun seems strange, without the context of the entire obviously. But the marketing for this thing has seemed to be entirely mismanaged.
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u/Junior_Professor4676 2d ago
The difference between a gentle sunbath and having a giant-ass magnifying glass shown over your body, forcibly healing your broken bones at an accelerated rate.
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u/grimlee669 1d ago
gentle sunbath
Lmao. In BvS superman was nuked and healed up in seconds from said "gentle sunbathe"
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 2d ago
Let's see if the film is deep enough to highlight that context clue. The need for anything "accelerated". My guess, it won't and this is basically fan service with panel tribute.
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u/Goon_Pork 1d ago
They said the sun was there to heal him, he cried out in pain, they kept him down as if they knew it hurt but he needed it, what other reason is there?
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 1d ago
The sun healing Superman works on a surface level, but functionality alone doesn’t make it meaningful. Showing urgency and pain might convey its necessity, but it appears to lack deeper integration into the narrative. It's not done elevated storytelling it's a simple visual nod. Without that depth, it looks hollow. This is why I said the whole thing looks like a panel extracted fan tribute.
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u/Able_Recording_5760 2d ago
I don't mind the Superman - Jesus symbolism, which is what the scene is, but it definitely isn't respecting the character's legacy. The character was originaly written by two jewish teenagers and most of the best regarded Superman stories move him away from the whole "messiah" thing (anything Alan Moore wrote).
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u/4m4t3ur3d1t0r1983 2d ago
But didn't the original creators sell the character of Superman to non jewish publishers? And the character in itself wasn't Jewish wasn't he?! If this is a problem what do think of how HBO watchmen series treated dr Manhattan?
I don't see the problem of making Superman growing up with christians parents because it is part of the American culture/history. And then the character evolved with different writers and artists through history. There isn't one but many different Supermen!
If we are going to talk about the original Superman, then the actual Superman isn't the real Superman, because the original character was a vigilante, that fought criminals by throwing and smashing them without even caring if they survived or not.
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u/Beelzebub_Crumpethom 2d ago
I sure do hope one day we can appreciate Snyder's work WITHOUT trashing Gunn in the same sentence.
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u/Main_Ease6440 2d ago
tell everyone else to stop coming up with the most blatant lies and hypocrisy about snyder and we'll stop.
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u/graymalkin2 2d ago
...like?
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u/Main_Ease6440 2d ago
lying about how cavill's superman never smiles, lying about cavill's superman never saving anyone, acting like superman causes all the destruction in the movie, acting like superman and the other heroes have never caused destruction in the animated shows or comics you all claim to love, complaining about cavill's superman killing zod but being perfectly fine with reeves's superman doing the same thing in superman 2, complaining about the bar scene where he destroys the drunk guy's truck after he harasses the waitress but have nothing bad to say about superman 2 where he beats the guy up in the diner, i could go on but you don't care. over ten years people like you have lied about these works and then played the victim and called people toxic cultists for calling you on your bullshit.
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u/graymalkin2 1d ago
I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "people like me". I'm of the opinion that there are unreasonable people who worship Gunn's style - which I'll admit, isn't for everyone - and some (meaning not everyone, a very loud minority) who are unreasonable in Snyder's camp (I know that I'm going to probably have my comment taken down just for saying this).
I am a Superman fan. I think the only Superman movie I'm not a fan of is Superman 3, and that's for reasons entirely separate to the character. There's parts of the Snyderverse that I really like, parts that are instantly iconic, and parts that deserve to be celebrated. There's also parts that aren't as great, parts that people may not like, and I think that's alright too. No director is perfect, not Spielberg, not Scorsese, not Gunn, and not even Snyder. But what they do, and who they appeal to, deserves some merit.
I don't think it's reasonable to brand all fans as "uncaring" and "cult-like".
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u/Main_Ease6440 1d ago
I don't have a problem with people not liking snyder, I don't even like everything he's done, rebel moon was one of the worst movies I've seen the last few years. I have a problem with all the hypocrisy and lies that I pointed out which if you like snyder you'd be aware of but instead of agreeing you pretended not to know. The complaint about his Superman not smiling is a blatant lie, I don't know how else you want to describe it. It's an objectively not true and there's so many other things synder critics lie about and until people stop lying about snyder's work and then playing the victim when they get called on it, I'm going to keep calling them on it.
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u/graymalkin2 1d ago
You're really stuck on the not smiling thing. Sure, he smiles, even if not all that much. But I think the thing is that he doesn't seem to match a lot of people's view of what Superman represents. Superman is a formula - he flies in, saves the day, says some one-liner, and then leaves to resume his life as Clark Kent. Some people like when that formula gets subverted, some people like the dark and gritty, and sometimes that's not for everyone. Ultimately, there's hypocrisy coming from both Gunn fans and Snyder fans. There's ridiculous claims from both. There's lies from both. Both antagonize the other and then play victim.
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u/joooalllanu 2d ago
Poor u/graymalkin2 branded as a liar for asking lol.
But honestly, your comment is one never ending gargantuan sentence, and this exudes self confidence. I don’t think someone in the wrong would have this much self confidence, so I’ll base my opinions on yours moving forward.
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u/SKM2012 2d ago
Snyders Superman was basically nuked in BVS ripping his face off. He healed like the fucking God he is. Sorry but Gunn's superman seems to be a fragile piece of shit compared to that or any comic book iteration of Superman.
All of these comments trying to justify the behaviour is no fan of the Man of Steel. Gunn's goons, that's all.
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u/SuboptimalMulticlass 2d ago
Ah, okay. I’ve read Superman all my life but because I don’t agree with you, specifically, I am a fake fan and a “goon” for James Gunn.
If I had know better, I would have checked with you decades ago instead of going through life incorrectly thinking I was a fan of Superman. Thank you for setting me straight!
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u/Main_Ease6440 2d ago
if you were really a fan of superman you'd be disgusted by him getting beaten up by a dog for the sake of comedy
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
If you had been a fan of superman you'd know that at it's core supes is a very lighthearted character and that visual gags are very fucking common in comic book stories.
In one movie he was cracking jokes while batman performed open heart surgery to remove a kryptonite bullet from him.
He was never meant to be a metaphor for Jesus like Snyder did.
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u/HomemadeBee1612 He's never fought us. Not us united. 2d ago
Richard Donner said he got death threats due to drawing parallels between Superman and Jesus in the 1978 movie. That was not some wild new idea Snyder came up with. It's an aspect baked into the classic Superman mythology. Donner and Snyder get Superman. You clearly do not.
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
I ascribe more to the Grant Morrison idea that superman is just a farm boy from Kansas trying to do right. That Superman deals with the exact same problems everyone else does, just on a wildly different scale.
Do you also want to say that Grant Morrison, the greatest superman writer of all times, doesn't get superman?
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u/HomemadeBee1612 He's never fought us. Not us united. 2d ago
superman is just a farm boy from Kansas trying to do right
That is literally a quote from BvS. Are you saying Snyder got Superman right?
Also, John Byrne is the greatest Superman writer of all time. His writing was the template and framework that introduced the '80s generation to Superman comics. DC constantly changes its canon and reboots, but the '80s post-Crisis era remains the era with most of their best, most impactful and most popular comics.
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
John Byrne was definitely influential, but not the greatest. Ask anyone that knows comics, they'll tell you that the greatest superman writer is Grant Morrison.
As for the quote, yes, it's a good quote, wonder where he took it from.
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u/SuboptimalMulticlass 2d ago
Man, another one! If only all of you had been around for the decades of reading comics to tell me I’m not actually a fan because I don’t agree with your opinions. If I knew there were rules about how you have to enjoy something to call yourself a fan it would have been so much easier!
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u/Pink_Monolith 2d ago
Bro has never owned a dog. Them jumping on you and accidentally hurting you is like... relatable.
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u/Main_Ease6440 2d ago
ok and? It makes him look pathetic. Also i thought you gunnfanboys didn't want realistic stuff in comic book movies. Not to mention this isn't how krypto acts in the comics, I thought you gunn fanboys care about comic accuracy?
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u/joooalllanu 2d ago edited 2d ago
The timeline of events for this comment:
You had no idea how Krypto behaves in the comics, but you threw a Hail Mary, hoping that the Krypto from the trailer is nothing like the comic book version.
You started searching for Superman panels that depict Krypto in the way you claimed. You did this in Google Images.
When you couldn’t find a good one, you updated your search to “superman krypto angry”.
Hopefully you found something somewhere that you can show next time this comes up, even though it might be a stretch.
You took a deep breath. At that moment you knew: everything was going to be okay.
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
...the hell you mean krypto doesn't act like that in the comics? He ABSOLUTELY does. It's a dog, he does dog things. Besides, that dog is as strong as a Kryptonian and superman had FOURTEEN BROKEN BONES AND MULTIPLE RUPTURED ORGANS.
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u/TheRaptureAddict_99 2d ago
Let me ask you this, if he’s as strong as a Kryptonian, how is Lex Luthor able to beat the living shit out of him? Huh? Why don’t you explain that? And the last time Superman ended up with broken bones was during his battle with DOOMSDAY. That dumb Ultraman clone of Lex’s should only be on part with him. So clearly Gunn depowered the hell out of Superman in this like the MCU did. And I thought Henry Cavills was depowered, but this is real low bar.
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
You do remember that there is a hefty green space rock that can depower superman pretty consistently and that lex has copious amounts of? Or that superman is vulnerable to magic? Or to being hit hard enough by someone as strong as him?
Superman is not invincible. There are plenty of ways to hurt him. The aura of godlike invincibility was never in the comics, just Snyder movies, he actually gets beaten up pretty regularly in the comics
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u/TheRaptureAddict_99 1d ago
Snyder depowered Superman but not like this. He was just represented as a powerhouse due to updated special effects and VFX.
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u/chilldudeohyeah 3d ago
I prefer this peaceful and calming effects of healing rather than stupid screaming. That painful healing is nonsense
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u/foxfrozz00 2d ago
Focusing sunlight to speed up the healing made his broken bones suddenly stiffen up, so yeah, of course it hurts.
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u/TheRaptureAddict_99 2d ago
The sun was already out and Superman doesn’t need the sun to heal. It just amplifies his abilities. And in Superman Returns, he still had a CHUNK of Kryptonite that Lex stabbed into him and he still went up into the sun in the atmosphere showcasing NO PAIN WHILE HE HEALED.
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u/foxfrozz00 19h ago
he need sun to heal, Kryptonian psychology is absorbing sun and convert it into his power. and using sun from atmosphere is different when u using Sun Light Accelerator. its Force supes to heal instant
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u/TheRaptureAddict_99 16h ago
Sorry but that is incorrect.
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u/foxfrozz00 8h ago
nope, you can read it on fandom if you want
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u/TheRaptureAddict_99 6h ago
Fandom can be edited by users. That’s not an accurate source bro.
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u/foxfrozz00 6h ago
there's a foot note, a lot of footnote that u could check urself. have u ever read Superman Comic?? or know Superman char??
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u/TheRaptureAddict_99 6h ago
I’ve read plenty of Superman stories and watched animated films since I was 7 years old. Not once I have I seen him whine while he’s being healed in the sun. His powers don’t work like that since he already has a healing ability as long as he isn’t anywhere near a mineral or device dampening his solar cells. Sorry but that’s basic Superman logic. There were plenty of timers where Clark healed in Smallville during night time. Not did he whine about it.
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u/foxfrozz00 6h ago
because he is not forced to absorb sunlight, his body slowly absorbs the rays unlike here where he is forced to absorb concentrated sunlight. this is similar to in comic JLA Tower of Babel, where Superman is in pain when he absorbs too much sunlight
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u/ListenUpper1178 2d ago
I thought this was be less realistic more fantastic
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
Concentrated sunlight to heal someone with 14 broken bones feels pretty damn fantastic to me.
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u/Traditional-Mall-771 3d ago
Healing is never peaceful or calming, have you ever had to heal from something really horrific and traumatizing, its horrible, but we are human and Superman is not so he is not beholden to our pain so therefore I agree
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u/pootis28 3d ago
Nah, you're just making an aura farming moment seem a lot deeper than it is.
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 3d ago
Lazy attempt to dismiss context. Sure. Who cares about visual symbolism and thematic storytelling? It’s easier to oversimplify than to appreciate depth, but that’s on you—not the work.
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u/MrEhcks 3d ago
I’m not a comic expert; I’m a filthy casual who just watches the movies, but from the Superman movies I’ve seen; yeah it looks like the sun should make him feel GOOD and not feel pain; but maybe this is a different take on how the sun makes him feel as far as healing goes.
I feel like if that’s the case and Gunn is just interpreting the healing differently or doing a different take on Superman healing, then we are the last crowd to be hating on a different take because all the Snyder haters gave Cavill so much shit for being different from what came before. Different isn’t always bad.
Corenswet and this new Superman will never be Cavill or the Snyderverse, but that doesn’t mean we have to hate it either. Tobey macguire will ALWAYS be my Spider-Man and Bale will ALWAYS by my Batman; but the other guys are great too
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u/CreeperVenom 3d ago
It probably just hurts because it’s such a concentrated beam. He probably feels his ribs or something snapping themselves back into place and new tissue rapidly healing probably feels really uncomfortable
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u/Past-Accountant2049 2d ago
Not even, Superman has bath in the sun itself for years in the comics.The sun shouldn’t hurt him, it should be a painless healing and Snyder portrayed that perfectly with Superman in BvS.
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 2d ago
There's always a drama effect when it comes to Superman being hurt or getting injured and a somber solemn journey that takes him to healing. Gunn basically bastardizes that journey by making it a cartoon. Nothing new here. I imagined after decades of directing he'd come up with something that has weight. But no we have robots who swear by not being emotional giggling while they use a Disney contraption to heal Superman. This thing is worse than I imagined.
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u/darktower41 3d ago
Yep!! This how Superman heals.
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u/TheRaptureAddict_99 2d ago
And he still had a chunk of Kryptonite lodged into him while he was healing. Why wasn’t he crying and moaning then? I don’t understand the Gunn fantastics bruh.
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u/Past-Accountant2049 2d ago
Yeah!!! In no way does Superman ever scream in agony from the sun. This Superman returns and Batman v Superman portrayed the healing perfectly!
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u/darktower41 2d ago
Some Gunn fans are trying hard to defend this by making shit up that has never happened before.
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u/Past-Accountant2049 2d ago
Fr!! 😂 I feel like this people just dislike Snyder cause they know how much better his work is and they are also either marvel fans and don’t want the success of Snyder to flourish so all they do is try to hate. I think there is also so people that hate on MoS and BvS just bandwagoning of what other haters say with out even watching the movies or they go of based on reels 🤣
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u/Notoriously_So 3d ago
This is how you do a Superman regeneration scene. Not that BS in the new reboot flop.
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u/SnyderCut-ModTeam 3d ago
Removed for being a meta post or comment about the sub itself. This is ONLY allowed in the specific post made by the moderators and linked under Rule 13.
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u/BalladOfBetaRayBill 3d ago
I think the new one looks good. Why does liking the Snyder ones have to be mutually exclusive with being interested in the new one? Which to be clear, has not been released and we have not seen.
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u/Main_Ease6440 3d ago
Because I don't like gunn's tone or style or the way he handles the characters. I don't want or need to see kypto beating up superman because gunn wants to pander to dog lovers. I don't want or need to see all his usual toilet humor and weird fetish jokes. I don't want or need to see superman ignoring an alien threat because he's too busy arguing with lois. I want superman to be handled seriously with respect and dignity like snyder did
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u/BalladOfBetaRayBill 2d ago
Fair, it’s a matter of taste I suppose. A lot of people like Gunn more, a lot of people like Snyder more. It’s fair to say if you hate all Gunn’s movies, you’ll probably hate this one. I didn’t love creature commandos but Guardians 3 was my favorite MCU movie maybe ever, it played serious moments very earnestly in a way Gunn didn’t always do. I’m looking forward to this new one because I love dogs, I love wacky silver age adventures, I love characters with a lot of personality, I love Gunn’s humor (especially more recently when it’s been less interrupt-y), and I love bright colors. These aren’t objectively better or worse than Snyder’s style, but I tend to like them more.
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u/Main_Ease6440 2d ago
Look I get it, gunn fans enjoy goofy shit and laughing at superheroes, snyder fans want superheroes to be treated seriously with respect. I prefer serious and respect over goofy and mockery but to each their own
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u/CrimsonKing217 3d ago
1) PANDERING to dog lovers?? With an accurate depiction of what an untrained / excitable dog acts like? That's an interesting thing to take away from that moment.
2) Do you think that he's honestly going to have the same level of humour and silliness as his other films? He's making a SUPERMAN film, and he clearly loves the property and is taking it seriously because they've made him top dog over there at DC. He knows what he's doing. Plus can a filmmaker never evolve? If you judge Peter Jackson on Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles and Braindead, you'd probably thing he was an atrocious pick for LOTR but look how that turned out.
3) I guarantee something else is going on in that scene. Superman would NEVER ignore a true alien threat just to have a moment with Lois. Here's a crazy idea: wait and judge it based fully on context and the whole story before you go mad on the Internet.
The hate boner that people have for this is so wild and weird.
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u/Main_Ease6440 2d ago
1) pandering to dog lovers-yeah I'd say trying to be cute and funny by having a dog beat up superman is pandering to dog lovers. This type of stupid humor is one of the main reasons why i hate the mcu and why i was afraid of gunn handling dc. Well the "real dc fans" have been begging dc to be like the mcu, congrats they got their wish. I just hope they actually show up to the theater this time.
2) Uh yeah seeing as how krypto beating up superman is the exact type of silliness in all his other work I think this is going to be exactly like his other movies/shows. How does superman getting beaten up by a dog mean gunn clearly loves the property or takes it seriously? Thats not respectful or serious , it's humiliating and pathetic. And I'm not just judging gunn on his marvel work or the stuff he did before that, I'm judging him on his other dc work which aside from suicide squad (which I actually really like) is terrible.
3) I'm just going by the leaks buddy multiple people have said that the scene with the glowing eye shaped alien is just a gag. Superman and lois are talking about their relationship and politics while guy gardner fights it in the background. You can even see it getting hit with green energy in the shots they've shown. Superman doesn't go and help. But I do agree superman would never do that which raises the question: If that leak is correct will the "real dc fans" show gunn the same over the top vitriol they showed snyder or will they be hypocrites again? You tell me to wait and judge the movie based on the full context ok fine then you can't tell me it's going to be amazing or comic accurate, you haven't seen it either.
The hate boner people showed for snyder is what's weird, people still coming up with blatant lies and hypocrisy about how cavill's superman never smiled or how he never saves anyone or how he caused all the destruction etc. lies and hypocrisy for over 10 years and I'm sick of it.
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
I think you are really forgetting that superman is actually a VERY lighthearted character at his core. His thing is that he is just a farm boy from Kansas looking to do the right thing.
He is not a Jesus metaphor. He cracks jokes ALL THE TIME. There is lots of comedy in his stories. Portraying his kindness and lightheartedness IS giving him the respect he deserves. Superman is emotional, superman is relatable.
Superman has the same exact problems we do, just on a wildly different scale. This is what Grant Morrison said, aka the greatest superman writer of all times. You can disagree with me, you can't disagree with him, he gets superman like no one else does.
So yeah, superman has to deal with an excitable super dog that can level cities when he gets zoomies. Or he has to deal with the pain of 14 broken bones snapping back into place. Or deal with that one prick everyone hates, only that prick is Lex Luthor.
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u/Main_Ease6440 1d ago
- You can be light hearted without making him look completely ridiculous and humiliating him for the first 5 minutes of the movie. I'm currently reading all star superman the comic gunn said he used as inspiration for this movie and there's nothing in there so far that humiliates superman the way gunn did in this opening. The guy takes the full blast of the sun to the point that he basically gets cancer and still has more dignity than gunn's superman
- Buddy you don't get it, I'm fine with humor, I'm not fine with the over the top obnoxious humor gunn and the mcu use that makes everything ridiculous and undercuts any sort of drama, tension or sincerity. The raimi spider-man movies have plenty of humor but when it's time to be serious or sincere they are. Also I'm so glad you brought up the jesus thing because it's just more hypocrisy from you "real dc fans" You whine about jesus imagery and then you're fine with gunn showing him crucified. It's hilarious how blantant you hypocrites are. Also I'm jewish and I'm fine with all the jesus stuff, he's from kansas, I don't know if you noticed but they're pretty religious in the midwest and its not for judaism.
- You can show him having problems without humiliating him, having him look pathetic and ridiculous getting beaten up by a dog and dragged through the snow is stupid, show me the comic where that happens. Superman is supposed to be relatable and a god, gunn's superman looks like a pathetic loser flopping around. Cavill's superman has insane powers and easily heals from a nuclear missile but still calls his mom or confides in his girlfriend when he doubts himself and when he really struggles he imagines what his dead father would say. That's relatable and very human while still being respectful.
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u/Endeav0r_ 1d ago
Absolutely nothing about this scene looks pathetic of humiliating. He just got his ass beat from WE DONT KNOW, has 14 broken bones, multiple damaged organs and he got jumped by a dog with supercharged Kryptonian strength and a severe case of zoomies. There is quite literally nothing pathetic or humiliating.
We only see him in pain and in need of healing, we don't know how he gets in that situation, you have quite literally no reason to say he looks weak and pathetic
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u/HomemadeBee1612 He's never fought us. Not us united. 3d ago
There's almost no director who switches off their style like a light bulb. Usually directors get a fan following because people want to keep seeing them make similar movies. Hell, even when they produce movies, they try to import their style on the other director. Expecting Super L to not feel like Gunn's other films is not a safe bet.
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u/A_Town_Called_Malus 2d ago
The same director who made the Mad Max films also made Happy Feet and Babe 2 (and was a producer for Babe)
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u/thiswilldo2 2d ago
He was also lined up to make a Justice League movie once upon a time too, funnily enough.
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u/Top-Most-9155 3d ago
At this point, do we all still think we’re in the majority? Because I used to, but people online are so hyped about the new one and seem to have forgotten this that i have my doubts now.
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 3d ago
Gunn fans are terrified of a divided fanbase ruining their newly branded DCU. Why else do they spend so much time worrying about what we think? We helped get the snyder cut released. Thats a powerful unified voice as a fanbase.
I promise the gunn folk who swear they want their movies to be stupid and their superman to be embarrassing are a loud minority. Where were all these lovers of corny shit when blue beetle and the flash released?
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u/Main_Ease6440 3d ago
we never were. i love zack's work but you don't get the kind of vitriolic hate he does if most people like your work. The mcu didn't get that hate in phase 1-3 because most people liked it, now in phase 4-5 more people are turning on it. Us snyder supporters are passionate but we are not a majority and I think this new superman will be a hit because it's basically going to be superman as an mcu phase 1-3 movie
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 3d ago
Not all DC Fans like Snyder (style, vision etc.) but all Snyder fans love DC. You'd be surprised how widely known and recognized Snyderverse is. My avatar is what I use for work scheduling and people I fly with recognized it, I was shocked to be honest. If Justice League was to be continued, the hype would have been many times over the current GotG copy.
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u/hardgour 3d ago
You can be both hyped for the new one and still a massive fan of Snyder’s and want his restored.
I’m not super excited for the new one cuz I’m not a huge fan of Gunns style. But I always want DC to be brought back to the forefront of comics
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u/Main_Ease6440 3d ago edited 3d ago
I'm not hyped for the new one precisely because I'm not a fan of gunn's style. I'm not going to be excited for something just because it's from a brand I like especially now that we're starting to see footage and hear more about the plot
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u/hardgour 3d ago
I think the clips coming out now are probably going to be the best parts of the film in-order to drive hype, but if any of the leaks are true, it’s going to be a very very weak plot.
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u/FuckGunn 3d ago
The "hype" is just marketing from bots trying to get people to watch this dogshit. Most people aren't interested.
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u/Traditional-Mall-771 3d ago
Not true at all, not everything is a conspiracy, people like to enjoy things and the new version looks fun, I loved what Snyder did but the mass majority did not and its never coming back so we can either keep crying like children throwing a tantrum or move on and enjoy what we can
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u/FuckGunn 3d ago
The mass majority loved Snyder's movies, and it's because of that they won't be going to see this.
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
No they didn't.
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u/HomemadeBee1612 He's never fought us. Not us united. 2d ago
If the mass majority didn't enjoy Snyder's movies, then why were those the most financially successful DC movies outside of pure, Batman-only canon movies? WB did their big retooling after forcing out Snyder, Cavill and Affleck, and the attendance for these films dropped like a rock. And we know DC movies before Man of Steel were bombing left and right. The Snyder-era movies were liked by more people than almost all other non-Batman-canon-only DC movies, with an average gross per movie of $815 million.a bigger average than the MCU's phase 1.
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
Because they came out at the height of MCU induced movie hype. They did well because people were curious. But then critically they bombed.
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u/HomemadeBee1612 He's never fought us. Not us united. 2d ago edited 2d ago
Completely incorrect. Number one, the MCU's success was VERY BAD for ALL other superhero movies. It created an audience with brand loyalty who began to shun all other superhero movies as if they were the generic Dollar Store brands, like the Fox X-Men and F4 and Amazing Spider-Man films. Number two, the word "critical" and "bomb" have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Bomb is strictly a financial term. The Snyder-era movies were consistent box office hits. "Critical bomb" is a flat-out, made-up, bogus term you have to use because it's the only way you can make their performance sound bad.
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u/lostandnotfnd 3d ago
i’ll be sure to comment on your most recent comment when it makes more than man of steel. also why’d you want those kids to get bullied?
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u/Traditional-Mall-771 3d ago
If the mass majority loved the Snyderverse it would have made a hell of a lot more than it did, none of them even broke 500 million, the only one to come close was the first wonder woman and that osnt even technicallypart of Snyders vision anyway, its unfortunate that the mass majority rejected these films because I really wanted to see how it would play out, I enjoyed the dark gritty take, were they perfect absolutely not but they were awesome to me, oh well the public has spoken and we lost
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 3d ago
How is Wonderwoman not Snyder's vision when he co-wrote and produced it? We didn't lose. Snyderverse films are peak DC. We'll never see such depth again. I'll remind you in a couple of years.
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u/FuckGunn 3d ago
Your defeatist attitude is sad. You should be fighting with us, not throwing your hands down and saying "we lost".
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u/Traditional-Mall-771 3d ago
Its not a defeatist attitude, the difference is I have the ability to enjoy more than 1 version of these characters, thats why Elseworld stories are always my favorite, there will never be a difinitive version of the characters on the big screen because there is no such thing. Your difinitive differs from mine just like it differs from writer to writer and even their creators, so yea we lost the Snyderverse, nothing we can do or say could ever bring it back, my wish is that someday maybe they give it to us in animated form or at the very least a comic continuation like they did for Reeves and Keaton
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 3d ago
The sneak peek only has one million views. Looks like WB didnt pay for the ad version this time.
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u/Endeav0r_ 2d ago
Do you genuinely not know that movie trailers are ads? Every movie does this, why is it a problem if they do it for superman?
Besides, it's a 6 mils in one day.
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u/ticklyboi 3d ago
life does not revolve around failed film franchises... there was superman adaptations before... there will be superman adaptations later... superman literally is loved worldwide
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u/FuckGunn 3d ago
Cavill Superman was loved worldwide, this mockery isn't.
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u/Traditional-Mall-771 3d ago
I'm just saying, the point is I personally loved the Snyderverse but most people didnt and thats why we are in this position now, what are you gonna do be mad and hate for the rest of your life? What good will that do?
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u/FuckGunn 3d ago
I'll stay as mad and hateful for as long as Snyder is kept out of DC where he rightfully belongs.
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u/Traditional-Mall-771 3d ago
Lol and say the ask him to come back and work on something and he flat out refused, then what?
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u/FuckGunn 3d ago
Then I'd support him and attack WB more for whatever they did wrong.
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u/ticklyboi 3d ago
you are not the world bro. We are not your lovers. that line would only work on the person who somehow loves you
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u/HumbleSiPilot77 3d ago
A lot of the “hype” you’re seeing might stem from the novelty of something new. It doesn’t necessarily mean people have forgotten Snyder’s Superman. If anything, your voice as a Snyder fan is part of what keeps his vision alive. Quality storytelling creates a lasting impact, and Snyder’s Superman will always have a distinct place in the mythos. The real question is whether the new version can withstand the same scrutiny a decade down the line.
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u/GOTHAMKNlGHT 3d ago
Does being hyped about the new one mean people don't like this one, to you? Genuinely curious. I'm stoked for a silver age, DCAU feel. But I love the Snyderverse too!
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u/pokeboy626 1d ago
Personally I don't like it when Superman is too powerful. It makes the rest of the justice league look like jokes. Snyder's Superman could probably solo his justice league by himself.
For example, ideally Wonder Woman vs Superman should be a high diff fight. Snyder's Superman can manhandle Gadot's Wonder Woman no sweat.
So I like Gun's Superman so far. I feel like Gun's Justice League will be much less top heavy than Snyder's