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u/RedPhoenix2025 10h ago
I’m sincerely hoping it’s good. It’s been quite a while since we’ve gotten standalone Superman content
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u/dryheavedryair 1d ago
Whether it gains financial success or not, it looks pretty damn good. Im excited to see what DCU has in store for us DC fans. Creature commandos was really good. let's see how live action goes. Wish we could have seen the full snyderverse, but I'll be happy if we get a good, comic book feel in a cinematic universe for DC.
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u/ListenUpper1178 9h ago
it looks dumb. the plans for the DCU are dumb.
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u/dryheavedryair 7h ago
Oh yeah? Wanna elaborate?
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u/ListenUpper1178 7h ago
too many different tones that don't go together
too much story spread across too many mediums
very little focus on the justice league in the first act
disrespecting the source material multiple times
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u/SuboptimalMulticlass 2h ago
Nothing funnier than when some nerd starts talking like Sephiroth because pulp stories for children weren’t adapted in the exact way they imagined it in their head.
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u/ListenUpper1178 2h ago
Don't act like you are immune to you passions.
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u/SuboptimalMulticlass 2h ago
You can be passionate about something while avoiding becoming an insufferable myopic absolutist about corporately owned IP that’s existed for nearly 100 years and had so many different interpretations that only someone insufferably myopic would spend their time screaming at the clouds that their vision is the only legitimate one.
I’ve rubbed elbows behind closed doors with more comic creators than you’ve likely ever read, and they find folks like you the second most dreadful part of the hobby.
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u/dryheavedryair 7h ago
What tones don't go together? A lot of tones in the comics are put together like a collage and seem to work out. I'd like examples on this.
Too many stories spread across many mediums? Well, we had one animated show and now live action is being brought into play. That seems like 2 mediums....
Justice league has been the main focus for so long and we need a fresh take before returning to them. The DC universe is so rich and if we keep going back to JL over and over again we won't get anything else that makes the comic universe beautiful.
Give me examples on how it disrespects source material, please.
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u/ListenUpper1178 7h ago
As an example the superman movie is said to be based/inspired by all star, man of tomorrow, man of all seasons, and kingdom come. All those stories have widely different feels and functions in the mythos.
In the first act, there are movies, live action shows, animated films, animated shows, and possibly video games.
Justice League hasn't gotten its due at all. It wasn't done justice. They are historically important characters and leaving them to the wayside is insulting.
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u/dryheavedryair 6h ago
Your first query, having a mash up of different comics for inspiration for a cinematic adaptation, is pretty standard. We want to see something different with some semblance to what we know from the comics. Zack Snyder did this with his DC plan, combining aspects of TDKR, Injustice, Flashpoint, and new 52.
Your second query, we had one animated show that was pretty damn amazing IMO as a comic reader, if you didn't like it, that's fine, but i feel it was good setup for tone. Having live actions shows intertwine with cinematic universes is kinda the new deal now, and some stories need to be episodic, much like comic books, to keep us fed. I do think they shouldn't over-do this like the MCU did. It's also way too early to tell. And as for the video games, im iffy on that, but like you said
possibly
Third query: i agree the justice league has had no due justice aside from ZSJL, but if they keep going back to that immediately then people will get bored. Like I said earlier, the DC universe is so rich with other characters, and of course, JL is historically important, and if you think we won't get there, you're out of your mind, but we won't if people "hate what they don't understand" before it even has a chance to grow legs and walk.
I feel, if you're a DC fan, you should at the very least give it a chance before damning it. That's literally what happened to the snyderverse.
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u/ListenUpper1178 4h ago
You need to get people invested in the universe before you explore the deeper lore.
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u/ListenUpper1178 4h ago
A less is more approach is preferable when starting a project like this.
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u/dryheavedryair 4h ago
Id argue that's what this is. He's introducing a pre-established universe and investing an audience with things that haven't been tried over and over again. My advice: give it a chance. You don't even know what it's like yet. You have pre-determined and needles hate. Bur do you. I just think every argument you made isn't sound 🤷
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u/ListenUpper1178 4h ago
But they havent been tried over and over again. Wonder Woman, Flash, Justice League and Aquaman have been done exactly once. Hell he is producing a batman movie which has been done over and over. He didn't give DCEU a chance, not even an ending so I won't give him a chance.
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u/SayidJarah 1d ago
WB made MoS not too far behind the mcu, but in an effort to “catch up” they made zero movies for 5 years then tried to copy marvels 12th movie for their 2nd movie
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u/OnePunchReality 1d ago
I mean there is no disputing the Marvel movie verse has had better traction. DC has been a up and down train wreck for movies but faired far better on TV shows. MCUs TV verse is not great lol to say the least.
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u/Hepty-6177 17h ago
Ah the studio that brought you the penguin also came out with Bat women,Titans and whatever else the CW wanted to throw at you.I love Superman and Lois btw,but the MCU has a track record.For every she hulk there’s a Loki,for every secret invasion there is now a daredevil show.DCEU just came out with Creature commandos and Peacemaker debut.Really isn’t saying much yet.
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u/ThePolarisBear 1d ago
We Stan a more comic accurate Superman! Can’t wait for the DCU to be done right!
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u/APlayerHater 1d ago
James Gunn's been having the only big successes with DC lately so like... You can argue the artistic merits of his movies all you like, but just going off of trends, his superman movie will probably be successful.
Here you're equating the artistic quality of something with its financial success. If the movie succeeds, you'll probably say that the general public is a bunch of fools who can't recognize true greatness.
Which I will kind of agree on. I liked some Snyder stuff well enough. And other, unrelated, great Warner Brothers movies like Mad Max Fury Road / Furiosa, didn't get as much love as they deserved.
If the movie fails, you'll probably say it's just desserts for a hack.
To that affect, I disagree. James Gunn just kind of does the marvel formula better than marvel does it. His movies are goofier than normal marvel movies, but they are also more genuinely sentimental than marvel movies.
Mainstream marvel movies seem terrified to approach genuine sentimentality and always undercut everything with a joke. It's like they fear to turn off audiences with moments of tragedy and sadness, but the Guardians movies always had big moments focusing on death, sadness and tragedy.
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u/ListenUpper1178 14h ago
His only movie at DC was a flop.
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u/blaintopel 7h ago
thats true but the circumstances dont really make that information a reliable predicter. it was a highly anticipated sequel that everyone who watched it agreed was better than the first one and fixed almost all the problems the first one had, but since it was released during the pandemic it was released on HBO MAX instead of theaters.
I'd say considering WB saw whatever success that movie had and decided to give him 2 spin offs and then the entire brand says a lot about how WB perceived the success or lack thereof of the suicide squad.
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u/claudiocorona93 1d ago
I don't like how the trailers look, but I hope it's successful. DC has the right to coexist with Marvel.
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u/Wheattoast2019 1d ago
Thank you! Feige even said in a podcast that he wants good DC movies; a stronger DC is a stronger Marvel.
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u/Notoriously_So 2d ago
I'll watch Thor: Love & Thunder three times in a row before I watch the Superman reboot. 🍿🔥💥💯
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u/Better_Ad9173 2d ago
looks like a joke
sorry not paying DC any money
this reboot looks bad color wash out
I want JL-2-3 and the spinoffs James Gunn is a joke
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u/MelodicLow7572 23h ago
You say it looks bad because the color is washed out but it’s extremely bright. You say you want JL 2-3 from Snyder when he is known for making films dark and removing color. You intrigue me.
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u/Available_Thanks3210 2d ago
First film to make 1 Pedobillion dollars
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u/_OngoGablogian 2d ago
what are you trying to imply here lmao
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u/Souppdog 1d ago
These people aren't smart enough to come up with any form of criticism so they make up accusations
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u/Random-Nerd827 1d ago edited 1d ago
Can I get a source on that? The only thing I can find was some offensive tweets from like 15 years ago that kinda just reek of early internet but don’t give much past that…
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u/Super_Candidate7809 1d ago
Google is your friend.
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u/Random-Nerd827 1d ago
I tried google. I found nothing but again, old tweets from fifteen years ago. Thus I’m asking you as the one who made the claim to prove you’re not just spouting bs lol
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u/FullCarbonChemist 2d ago
He's not
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u/Super_Candidate7809 2d ago
Found another one sigh..
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u/joooalllanu 1d ago
Wait if he’s a documented pedophile, why is he not in jail, or being investigated, or charged? And why is he hired and celebrated by the biggest studios? Surely you’re not referring to his juvenile tweets and attempted edginess from 15 years ago, but instead to clear evidence that should send him to prison for a long time, right? Because that’s literally what happens to documented pedophiles.
This is a big scandal. If you have any evidence, please share so someone can take action. In addition to law enforcement, we also need to alert the studios about this. No studio would want to deal with the implications of hiring a documented pedophile. Warner Bros needs to know, quick.
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u/hehehaJokerFace 2d ago
Do not think it will beat the Man of Steel though, at all. I feel general audiences are losing faith in franchises like this which is a shame.
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u/BangerSlapper1 2d ago
I think it’s going to be an either-or situation. Either it somehow catches fire and grosses a billion or it underperforms at the level of a lot of other genre films of late, somewhere in the $500M range, which would make it quite the money loser and pretty much make the DCU dead on arrival.
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u/hehehaJokerFace 2d ago
If there's tons of fanfare and praise upon release, it might make a billion, but hopefully not. I don't want WB to make money, lol
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u/FortLoolz 2d ago
That's one of the reasons I believe rebooting DCEU was the wrong move. They should've soft retconned whatever they didn't like instead of outright declaring everything null and void (except for Gunn's own projects.)
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u/Applepieport 2d ago
What's the joke here exactly?
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u/rlum27 2d ago
comparing superman to morbius.
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u/Available_Thanks3210 2d ago
LOL at least Morbius had an oscar-winner in the cast
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u/Buhlawkay809 2d ago
Yeah an Oscar-winner who bombed in both of his attempts to portray beloved villains. His iteration of the Joker was horrible, he tried doing what Ledger did by trying to actually study the character and do as they would- but his attempts were honestly distasteful. Research what he would do behind the scenes to his co-stars. Morbius was just bad in every aspect.
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 1d ago
At least joker was kinda redeemed in the justice league movie even though he had next to no screentime
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u/Buhlawkay809 1d ago
You know what? Yeah that’s fair, I was honestly very interested in what coulda been. But one good scene doesn’t take away from how bad he was in SS and in Morbius
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u/No-Gift-7922 2d ago
90% of theater will be filled with 12 j old Teenager 😊
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u/IcebergLounge 2d ago
Farming upvotes since this is basically a Gunn server now
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u/pbx1123 2d ago
Farming upvotes since this is basically a Gunn server now
Sadly but You are right
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u/Mindless_Bad_1591 2d ago
idk I just find it funny you quoted the entire comment instead of jsut replying straight up lol
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u/pbx1123 1d ago edited 1d ago
idk I just find it funny you quoted the entire comment instead of jsut replying straight up lol
I know right
Why?
Because there are users that delete the freaking post or the whole reddit user account and then the reply looks like a crazy people talking by himself/herself 😄😊
Some wise guys start an argument it gets heated and delete the post same problem happens
The user could curse you like a really bad word and imagine you answering back fku etc
others people would look at you like damn this guy is a hothead look how he post , even arguing some Gunn or Snyder stuff and d they see my answers could assume like...
"probably the other user didn't do nothing and has to delete the post avoiding controversy "
So I look bad😊😊✌🏻but I'm a sweet teddy bear
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u/Horror_Campaign9418 2d ago
Gunn fans will ask for the 20 minutes of superman to be restored to his goofy ass movie. Then call their sub the GunnCut.
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u/creepingsecretly 2d ago
They should take the mustache Whedon CGI's off Cavill and put it on Corenswet for the Gunn Cutt.
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u/Super_Candidate7809 2d ago
“Synder fans are goin to look so bad when it hits 1 Supillion!” A Gunn glazer somewhere 😭 delusional.
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 1d ago
You commented multiple times one of them calling gunn a pedo with zero proof.
Just say you like snyders superman more than gunns
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u/Super_Candidate7809 1d ago
I know a pedo when I see one, stop defending it. Unless…
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 1d ago
Baseless accusations because you disagree with someone or dislike them isnt very cool
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u/Pretty-Advantage-573 2d ago
You sure showed that made up person you were mocking. They won’t recover 😂
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u/Super_Candidate7809 2d ago
I know right? So relevant that you responded to it. Go figure!!
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u/Pretty-Advantage-573 2d ago
Oh shit, me replying to your comment made me into the strawman. I fell for the oldest trick in the book AGGHHH
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u/jvasilot 2h ago
In South Korea?