r/SpaceXLounge 5d ago

Meet the Fram2 crew: A cryptocurrency entrepreneur, a cinematographer, a robotics engineer and an Arctic explorer

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r/SpaceXLounge 6d ago

Discussion What will happen first: New AN 225 or Starship point to point cargo?

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What if we want to send 1000 tons of cargo to a destination that is 20000 km away from us? We have two options: launch a starship 10 times, or fly the An-225 7 times (4 times with full payload to the destination airport and 3 times without payload back to the base airport)

So Starship and the AN 225 have two main things in common: they are both capable of carrying large volumes and large masses of cargo, making them ideal for quickly delivering humanitarian goods or military aid over long distances.

But there are some differences:

The AN 225 has a cargo volume of over 400 cubic meters more than Starship. And it can carry 250 tons of oversized cargo internally or 200 tons externally, up to 70 meters in length.
The AN 225's range decreases significantly as it carries a larger payload. And with a payload of 250 tons, its maximum speed drops from 800 to 760 km/h.
Starship's vertical cargo bay may be more difficult to utilize than the AN 225's conventionally shaped horizontal cargo bay.
And if you want to use Starship, the payload has to withstand higher G loads than on the AN 225

So I calculated how much it would cost and how long it would take to transport X amount of cargo weighing between 100 and 1,000 tons to a destination between 1,000 and 20,000 kilometers.

The timer starts when both vehicles, are fully fueled and the cargo bays are already loaded. They leave the launch pad/runway at the same time. And the timer stops when the last vehicle arrives at its destination.

The AN225's operation cost in 2017 was 30000 $ / hour according to Wikipedia. Adjusted for inflation that is roughly 40000 $ / hour. Because there will be only one AN 225 in existence it will need to do multiple rounds if the payload is greater than 250 tons. And the AN 225 needs to stop for refueling. So I added 3 hour for each stop for cargo loading and unloading (this also includes taxiing time). And I calculated the refueling time with a rate of 225000 liters per hour.
If Starship's cost per kg is 100$ then it will cost 10 million $ to launch 100 tons of cargo. And between two launches there will be 90 minutes (7 minutes for booster catch; 8 minutes for booster saving; 30 minutes for ship stacking; and 45 minutes for fueling), but this time can be shorter if we use more than one launch tower.

I calculated Starship's time efficiency with these formulas:

  • Starship is X times faster: AN 225's time is divided with Starship's time
  • Starship is X times more expensive: Starship's cost is divided with AN 225's cost
  • Starship is X times more time efficient: (Starship is X times faster) is divided with (Starship is X times more expensive)
Where I colored the cells green, the efficiency reaches 1. So in those cases Starship is more time efficient than the AN 225.

But currently the only AN 225 is destroyed. But there is still a small chance because there is another fuselage that is 70 percent completed. And it will need at least 500 million $ but at the moment Ukraine have more problems than to rebuild the AN 225. And Starship also needs to be fully and rapidly reuseable to bring down the cost per mass.

For anyone saying that point-to-point needs GSE all around the world. I think Starship could land literally anywhere on the globe if it has landing legs like the Lunar or Martian variants. And it won't even need any landing pad at all because on the Moon and Mars there also won't be any landing pads. When it lands at a remote location without a launch pad It could be recovered with the help of barges, or ironically it could be flown back to the launch site with the help of the AN 225. Because the AN 225 can even take off from hard frozen snow and gravel runways.

r/SpaceXLounge 7d ago

I noticed there were no ift1-ift8 synced comparison videos, so I made one myself

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r/SpaceXLounge 7d ago

[failure] First launch attempt of Isar Aerospace's Spectrum rocket

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r/SpaceXLounge 6d ago

Discussion Question about Starship Patches

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Not being able to afford to buy all of the Starship flight patches, I would like to print them and display them for fun in my home.

Has anyone done something similar with printing them on laminated printer paper or photo paper?

Thanks.


r/SpaceXLounge 8d ago

Wright's Law predicts April launches for Starship and Vulcan Centaur, September launches for both Ariane 6 flight 3 and New Glenn flight 2

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It’s early days, but the actual launch dates for flight 2 for Ariane 6 and Vulcan Centaur were close to predicted, based on Wright's Law and the industry average launch cadence learning rate. Following the same curve, New Glenn flight 2 won’t launch until September of this year. The Starship test campaign continues to accelerate at a rapid pace, with a learning rate of 52% and a current cadence of 49 days between launches. Elon has predicted weekly Starship launches by year end; this learning rate predicts a launch every three weeks by then.


r/SpaceXLounge 9d ago

News NASA Awards Launch Services Contract for SpaceX Starship - NASA

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r/SpaceXLounge 9d ago

NROL-69. As if the name wasnt enough...

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OC: u/stevenmadow. Launch Photographer.

r/SpaceXLounge 9d ago

Starship [Unconfirmed Rumor] News: SpaceX is reportedly planning NOT to catch Booster 14-2 on Starship Flight 9.

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r/SpaceXLounge 9d ago

Discussion Crazy thought; could SpaceX upstage New Shepard if they wanted to?

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Since Blue seems to be making a go of New Shepard throwing millionaires up to 100 Km for 5 to 10 minutes and doing "very" short term microgravity science, could SpaceX revive the 7 passenger Dragon design, add big windows and sell seats and science stacking it on a Falcon 9 first stage (no second stage, no trunk) and lob it out over the gulf up to 150 km or better altitude before the booster does an RTLS and the capsule lands just off shore. Even shoving a second stage and payload, the first stage tops out at better than 120 km before it starts to fall back, so with a super light payload and not going downrange, it ought to go WAAAAY up there... Cheap relative to a full stack, more seats and much longer duration compared to NS, meaning they can charge more per seat and per lb of science.


r/SpaceXLounge 9d ago

Starship The Highway to Mars (Payload 3 part series about life at Brownsville region, with a focus on SpaceX)

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r/SpaceXLounge 10d ago

Starship How much would it be to operate Superheavy like Falcon 9?

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With Super Heavy seemingly well sorted, why can’t we operate the Superheavy system like a Falcon 9, with a disposable 2nd stage? I feel like that would be MUCH more useful for the near term than waiting until Starship gets ironed out. Vast can start sending up modules, ride share programs could be put together for large satellites, and for $200-300 million a launch you’d blow every other launcher out of the water on price-performance


r/SpaceXLounge 10d ago

Cygnus After a spacecraft was damaged en route to launch, NASA says it won’t launch

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r/SpaceXLounge 11d ago

Where can I see rocket trajectories

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So a few days ago there was a falcon 9 second stage reentry seen from Europe(where I live) but I missed I because I didn't know ti was going to be visible.

Do you know any website where I could see the trajectory of the rocket live and predict where it's going too be reentered?

p.s. I know there wasnt much info abut the nrol launch but for other launches they probably give more data


r/SpaceXLounge 11d ago

Any regular private-individual amateur built satellites sent with SpaceX?

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I wondered, since the payload price-per-kilo is so low for launches, are there any regular-joe that has made their own "homemade" satellite and paid to have it sent up into orbit?


r/SpaceXLounge 11d ago

Other major industry news DIALING IN OUR NEW ROCKET: GEM 63XL SOLID ROCKET BOOSTERS - United Launch Alliance - A behind the scenes look at our collaborative team investigation of the solid rocket booster nozzle observation from Vulcan’s successful second certification flight.

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r/SpaceXLounge 12d ago

Eric Berger: "Momentum seems to be building for Jared Isaacman to become NASA administrator". Ars Technica.

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r/SpaceXLounge 13d ago

Falcon rocket?

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Seen today at 9.00 pm over Milan, Italy. Fast progression east to west, crossing the sky in 3-4 minutes.

Initially I thought the lightly cloudy sky was reflecting an airplane lights, but the swirl moved following the light, that became dimmer over time.

Could it be the NROL-69 Falcon launched today? The time doesn't really checks out, it is listed as launched 2.30 hours before.


r/SpaceXLounge 12d ago

Polaris Program Scott "Kidd" Poteet talking about his experience with Polaris Dawn at length

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r/SpaceXLounge 14d ago

Fan Art My 3D printed full stack Starship!

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Update from my previous post, I finished modelling and printing the booster! It's so tall! The scale is 1:144, so 6.25cm diameter and around 84cm tall!

Files for the booster are available here if anyone is interested, however the ship is not posted yet since I need to fix some issues with the heat shield fitment and the forward flap position.


r/SpaceXLounge 13d ago

STARSHIP: Conversation with SpaceX Engineer! [The Paramotor Podcast]

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r/SpaceXLounge 14d ago

Fan Art Designed and printed a SpaceX Starship, Aiming for full functionality of booster, tower, and maybe ship, I mean flying.

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A sketch is to be provided of booster, and a picture of the printed starship, note that it is modified, and may not be fit for flight currently. The sketch is very basic


r/SpaceXLounge 14d ago

Official The Fram2 crew completed training this week in California, and early this morning, the Dragon supporting their mission arrived at the hangar at pad 39A in Florida ahead of liftoff next Monday, March 31

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r/SpaceXLounge 15d ago

Elon Tweet We are honing in on the V3 Starship design. SpaceX is tracking to a Starship launch rate of once a week in ~12 months. That will yield ~100 tons to Starlinkorbit with full reusability.

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r/SpaceXLounge 15d ago

NROL-57 streaks into the sky above Central California 📸: me

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