r/StrangeEarth • u/Earth7051 • 3d ago
Ancient & Lost civilization Why can't anyone from the globe community explain why the pyramids are still in pinpoint precision to the Orion belt. After travelling 83 trillion miles a year for the past 3000 years.
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u/Professional_Soft404 3d ago
Now back up a quarter mile and see if it lines up
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u/Igabuigi 3d ago
Parallax is so commonly not understood that I'm convinced it's not taught in public school at all in the US. It's not THAT complicated, and there are some very easy in the classroom examples that kids could manipulate themselves to get a grasp of it themselves. I'm even tempted to make a YouTube video using the trees in my yard and 3 fingers in front of the camera just to show your specific example of things "lining up" just so I can self reference the video. I think I've explained on reddit alone this year 3 different instances where it's just parallax and a quick reference would be faster lol.
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u/narnababy 2d ago
I didn’t learn parallax until I was 15/16 and this was in extra science lessons. I’m not convinced the rest of my year group learned it. I knew the phenomenon but not what it was called or how it worked on a massive scale!
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u/Spets_Naz 2d ago
Does it even need to be taught though? My kids understood why planes seem to be stopped in air when we are moving. I think this is not a schooling problem.
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u/smalltownjon 1d ago
Wish we knew when they were built so we could calculate where they would have originally gotten this view from. I understand that it would shift throughout the night/day
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u/bownt1 3d ago
orions belt is really far away
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u/azarza 3d ago
thanks to u/ChrisARippel
"Orion's right shoulder
-Betelgeuse (580 ly away); Moves 26.42 mas/yr; 9.6 mas/yr
This star will move 7/100ths the width of you little finger every 10,000 years.
Orion's Belt
- Mintaka (1200 ly away) Moves 0.64 mas/yr; 0.56 mas/yr
- Alnitak (1260 ly); Moves 3.19 mas/yr; 2.03 mas/yr
- Alnilam (2000 ly); Moves 1.49 mas/yr: -1.05 mas/yr
Compared to Betelgeuse, the stars in Orion's belt are more than twice as far and move far, far slower."
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u/UnapologeticVet 3d ago
Welp sounds good to me brother.
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u/the-only-marmalade 2d ago
Betelgeuse is a time bomb. The thing might not even be there anymore. A couple of years ago it dimmed too, like something was obscuring it.
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u/Stuck-In-Blender 2d ago
Seeing Betelgeuse go supernova would be the single best moment in my life. Unfortunately the prognosis for this happening stretches for 100,000 years. In cosmic scales that’s nothing, but it’s very unlikely we will witness this.
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u/the-only-marmalade 2d ago
My hope is whatever the moon has on the suns circumference whilst observing it from earth will eclipse the odds of us waiting around for the next Elder Scrolls to come out, when witnessing BetelA go boom seems more likely...
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u/morganational 2d ago
Now, you've lost me.
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u/HoseNeighbor 2d ago
OP, like many, is trying to apply "common sense" to a vastness beyond their comprehension.
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u/murdermeinostia 3d ago
"the globe community" meaning basically everyone other than an absolutely tiny minority of total dipshits
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u/cash77cash 3d ago
AKA "The Bi-pedal community".
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u/Otherwise_Simple6299 3d ago
Is that the same as the tandem bike community?
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u/Jonnyboy1994 3d ago
No, close but it's actually a bicycling club for bisexuals. Some do ride tandem bikes tho
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u/Gankubas 2d ago
genuine question: do we allow the folks on the ISS into the globe community?
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u/murdermeinostia 2d ago
damn orbiters! who knows what they're doin out there, floating around with all that science and stuff
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u/MedicJambi 2d ago
It makes it sound like there's a group with a legitimate claim against the obvious evidence of a globe and a heliocentric solar system.
It's like using the term creationist theory to make what is actually a batshit crazy hypothesis sound legitimate.
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u/GateheaD 2d ago
Id like to see the globe community explain this posts 400 schizophrenic pictures of rocks and stars
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u/Twrecksgh88 3d ago
Why can’t anyone from the flat community ever seem to prove the globe community wrong with their own experiments?
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u/Xikkiwikk 3d ago
Their brains are too flat for that.
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u/AirPodAlbert 3d ago
Cos they're attached to the tips of the pyramids like balloons
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u/Letmetouchurpeen 3d ago
You know what dude that actually makes sense. I think you might be on something.
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u/Euphoric-Dig-2045 3d ago
Don’t know if you meant to structure this the way you did or forgot a word. But I’m going with the first thought. I got a good chuckle out of it!
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u/malatemporacurrunt 3d ago
The pyramids would line up differently if you moved closer to them or further away. The "alignment" you can see is a trick of perspective, often seen in long lens photography. You can make a thing which is relatively close to you vary dramatically in size compared to something much further away, whose size remains relatively static. See also: photos where the moon looks enormous.
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u/sanpigrino 3d ago
Funny thing is the "globe community" can explain pretty much anything on that topic. Just not to you guys, because the true flat thing is yalls brains
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u/w00timan 3d ago edited 3d ago
I once said to a flat earther you can work out if a globe map is to scale very simply with a measuring tape and some basic maths.
They called me a troll cos that was the "stupidest thing they have ever heard" says a lot about those flat fucks.
Edit: Glove to Globe
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u/Traffodil 3d ago
IIRC they don’t accurately align, but are just ‘quite closely aligned’. Not arsed enough to research it tho.
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u/AlarmedSnek 3d ago
Haha you are correct. They are pretty accurate for being built thousands of years ago but it doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to line up a building so that the corners are north south east west ish.
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u/DrParanormall 3d ago
And they probably have that slight difference due to the Stars and Solar System traveling through the Milky Way throughout the many centuries
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u/Successful-Yak4905 3d ago
MAYBE because the king was like “make it align with that star… i like that star and that star”
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u/lord_scuttlebutt 3d ago
From the right angle, everything can point to whatever stars you want, bud.
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u/Badassbottlecap 3d ago
Fuckin' flat earthers man.. who dropped you?
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u/ShyLimely 3d ago
It's like asking an atheist to prove that God doesn't exist. The burden of proof is on you.
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u/Dorjechampa_69 3d ago
EXACTLY. How people think that’s a good argument only proves they are idiots.
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u/maggiemayfish 3d ago
Three objects? Spaced regular distances apart?
Inconceivable
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u/Dull_Second_7351 3d ago
Our solar system is not rushing around the galaxy all on its own, everything in our 'neighbourhood' is travelling in the same direction at similar speeds 🤷♂️
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u/cursebit 3d ago
1 they saw the three stars
2 they knew math (they werent morons)
3 they built them somewhat aligned with the three stars
End of the story
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u/ReleaseFromDeception 2d ago
"somewhat" is doing incredibly heavy lifting in point 3 there...
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u/cursebit 2d ago
I never specified who "they" are, still if those monuments are aligned, someone indeed knew math and wasn't a moron.
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u/RedMdsRSupCucks 3d ago
Are you redacted op ? If you look up, you see the Orions belt, so they position the pyramids just like the stars appear when you look up...
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u/PlanetLandon 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think OP is suggesting that because thousands of years have passed, the stars should no longer be where they were in the sky when the pyramids were built.
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u/RedMdsRSupCucks 3d ago
Well they're not ... There's been a documentary showing how the position relates to how the stars were back when the pyramids were built. And today their position is slightly skewed compared to the Orions belt. Also a few thousand years means nothing in terms of galaxy and star age.
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u/HirsuteHacker 3d ago
This shit is like saying anything vertical at midday is aligned directly with the sun so the Earth must be flat, just on way larger timescales.
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u/Uncle_Sam_OG 3d ago
There is no globe community. We are part of the common sense. I highly suggest you watch some Carl Sagan stuff. He was an honest Scientist who could explain a lot of things to a lot of common people. Also, didn't some member from your gang just recently prove (again, after what I watched years ago on netflix, but with another flat earther), that the earth is in fact not flat?
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u/ComedicDalmatian445 3d ago
It’s so far away that even if it moves it would barely be noticeable and it would take a long time to actually project that movement to earth
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u/LacklusterPersona 3d ago
They don't. Humans are just super good at finding patterns in things. There is no evidence that the Egyptians intentionally built the pyramids to align to anything in the sky.
So, the burden of proof is on you, though. You're making the claim that they do somehow, so... prove it.
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u/ObiWan-Cannabis 3d ago edited 3d ago
the photo of the pyramids from above shows Cygnus constellation
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u/the---chosen---one 3d ago
Bud you know the flat earth thing is only back again because it started as a joke online, right? Even the room temp folk out there can rub their two neurons together and figure it out.
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u/Touchpod516 3d ago
"The globe community".....
You wouldn't be able to type this on reddit if it wasn't for the science proving that the Earth is round
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u/ReleaseFromDeception 3d ago edited 2d ago
When someone brings up the Orion Correlation hypothesis, responding with anything other than a tongue in cheek quotation of "correlation is not causation" is a crime.
The monuments were never spot on with the stellar arrangement the Orion correlation asserts. You have to invert the constellation and overlay the stars onto the 3 pyramids to even get them somewhat close to a match. That, to me, is a hallmark of fabrication. If the truth is on your side, why manipulate the info to suit your bias?
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u/ViolentSpring 3d ago
Nothing says “solid theory” like claiming no explanation but then having it explained by 5 seconds of searching. Flat earthers are the death of this kind of community.
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u/nckrey931 2d ago
We will first need the flat earth community to gain an understanding of scale. This seems to be your major stumbling block.
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u/Shamino79 3d ago
Looking at the top picture if they were really supposed to line up why does the highest star sit above the shortest of the big three pyramids? Is this really as above, so below?
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u/ZacRobinson 3d ago
Seems like at the right time and distance, you only have to line them up once, then move closer/further/left/right until they line up.
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u/killy_321 3d ago
I could align orion with my streets lamp posts if I look at them from the right spot.
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u/Queephbubble 2d ago
Because we’re moving with them. And when you think about the age of our universe (13.8 billion years) and realize that we’ve only been keep track of constellations for less than 12,000 years. That’s .000087%.
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u/SirRickardsJackoff 2d ago
Because we reached the date they were trying to predict. Shit’s about to go down soon.
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u/Creeepy_Chris 2d ago
Orion’s Belt doesn’t look that close anywhere on earth. Also, the three stars in Orion’s Belt may look relational to one another from earth, but they are nowhere near each other in actual space.
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u/Ck-retro 3d ago edited 2d ago
The stars are inter-dimensionally locked and share the same speed per distant traveled. whoever decided the location of the pyramids the stars meant something to them greatly! not only picking that exact location on earth to line up with Orion stars, it was also chosen for a magnetically charged energy area on this planet. The real question is, are the builders on Orion and is their pyramids staring back at us.
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u/JET-HVAC 3d ago
Because we haven’t begun to reach the level of intelligence that past civilizations did. Television, food poisoning, politics, etc have stunted our minds. Also, any of the amazing things that have been discovered are kept secret from the worlds population by the different world governments
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u/RogerRabbit79 3d ago
Are they still spot on? I thought the stars have shifted since all the signs were first recorded. That’s why people’s astrological signs are bogus and the dates don’t match. Least that what the astronomy teacher said.
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u/padizzledonk 3d ago
Are they still spot on? I thought the stars have shifted since all the signs were first recorded. That’s why people’s astrological signs are bogus and the dates don’t match. Least that what the astronomy teacher said.
Afaik yes, and when the procession of the equinox matches up there are other features on the structures that line up with the astrological things/features that move around with that. A lot of astronomical stuff doesnt really change position through that, not on the timescales we are talking about here anyway.
Its only been a few 1000y, even if you take some of the most speculative extended time periods of 10-20k years the stuff is so incredibly far away that they dont change position in a discernable way over even those extended periods of time.......I imagine we are talking in Galactic Years for that to noticeably change position and then we are talking 100s of millions of years...
even if you go all the way back to the very first nascent whispers of human beings 3M years ago, we have only moved in the 250M year galactic orbit a little more than 1%
The sun and planetary alignments of all these megolithic structures around the world are all still accurate
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u/Naotokan 3d ago
Because stars don’t travel 83 trillion miles a year. This is much faster than light speed.
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u/Alice_HasBeenBad 3d ago
“Coincidence”
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u/ReleaseFromDeception 2d ago
Except it isn't a coincidence when you have to invert the constellation to make it align with the Pyramids - and even then, the most Westerly of the pyramids is far, far off compared to the other two. Forcing a "coincidence" is not correlation - it is fabrication.
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u/SmellyScrotes 2d ago
Far more interesting that they line up with Orion’s Belt at all, and same with other megalithic structures… almost like they were trying to tell us something…
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u/other4444 2d ago
All these people did was stare at the sky at night telling stories. Of course they are going to build buildings to copy it. I think it's a "duh". The same as pyramids all over the world. Of course they are pyramids, because what other shape would they be?
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u/Aathranax 2d ago
Ok....
Lets start with, line up how? I keep asking this and I never get a real awnser. How exactly do they line up? Directly on top of each other? Cus if so they only line up for about 1 hour and only at a certain time of the year. Do they line up Equatorially? If so at what angle? Why that angle? How do you know?
My guess is gunna be with out looking into, they dont line up.
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u/koelvriescombinatie 2d ago
Ever searched or digged at the locations of orion stars where the piramides are not standing. Is there a piramide as well ?
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u/Bushgooher 2d ago
Is it because if we are travelling 83 trillion miles a year, isn't the Orion belt traveling at the same speed?? Like how could we be going faster than them. After all, isn't time and space relative? Unless maybe the Orion belt got a little close to a black hole and was able to slow down, maybe just a little bit, but not enough to get sucked into it completely. Or maybe we were slower and we got too close to a black hole and got slingshotted around it right at the time of around 3000 years ago and now we're perfectly in time with Orion belt and it's all just a great big coincidence that it works out that way. Hmm? 🤔
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u/Sufficient_Syrup4517 2d ago
Sure because they were created to be like that. It's one of the many purposes the pyramids serve.
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u/realparkingbrake 2d ago
"The globe community"--Bwahahahahahaha. It's hilarious that flat earthers try to pretend that those who recognize the Earth is round are just a faction and not the overwhelming majority of humanity.
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u/Dankstin 2d ago
I think I know, but I only know how to explain like, 20% of it accurately. The rest is math and science we don't yet have access to. But that math answers the other 80% of it, and it would make sense if I knew it. So basically I have 1/5th of an answer.
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u/Cha1upa_Batman 2d ago
The Star Mirror by Mark Vidler tries to give an explication for this. It’s kinda a difficult and expensive book to get a hold of for some reason.
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