r/TIL_Uncensored • u/Resident_Map4534 • 2d ago

TIL that Elon Musk's grandfather wanted everyone to be named a number and to eliminate elections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_N._Haldeman

Elon has just copied all his granddaddy's rejected ideas as part of the technocracy movement.

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u/Weird-Weakness-3191 2d ago

Wait till you hear about his actual father 🥴🥴🥴

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u/kazumi_yosuke 2d ago

The father who had kids with his step daughter? The step daughter he raised since she was 4? That father?

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u/AnIrishMexican 2d ago

Ah fuck, it's always bad when there's someone worse than Woody Allen with that.

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u/Zoesan 1d ago

Wasn't his father part of a group to abolish apartheid

From wikipedia:

Errol was elected to the Pretoria City Council as a representative of the anti-apartheid Progressive Party and has said that his children shared their father's dislike of apartheid.[2]

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u/ScienceOverNonsense2 2d ago

Also his support of Apartheid.

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u/Tang42O 2d ago

And Nazis

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u/smushnick 1d ago

despite his denial elon is still Afrikaner at heart

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u/tangledwire 1d ago

And the orange idiot-asshat gave Obama hell for eight freaking years about his birth certificate and being African.

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u/Zoesan 1d ago

Huh? When did this happen?

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u/ScienceOverNonsense2 1d ago

Check out the history of Apartheid in South Africa and Musk’s family’s support for it, his grandfather in particular

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u/Zoesan 1d ago

Ah yes, so because his grandfather supported it... he's guilty because of what?

Moreover, his father was an important voice in the antiapartheid party.

So please, if you have actual evidence of this, I'd love to see it.

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u/ScienceOverNonsense2 20h ago

His father earned his fortune from emerald mines that exploited black labor under apartheid. He and many others took full advantage of Apartheid but did little to oppose it other than give lip service.

In any case Elon is a fascist.

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u/Zoesan 19h ago

So you have no evidence, just wild claims.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Being truthful only matters when it's about Good People, right?

Anyway, if you look to your left you'll see a couple of goalposts moving at roughly the speed of sound.

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u/VolarRecords 2d ago

His grandfather and family lived in Canada. He was part of a technocrat society and wanted to start the Canada Nazi Party and take over Greenland, Panama, and Mexico. He moved his family to South Africa because they preferred apartheid.

Elon was named after a character in a sci-fi novel by Nazi Paperclip scientist Werner von Braun about a technocrat who colonizes Mars.

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u/samanthaash_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

wanting to take over greenland, panama, and mexico… why does that sound so familiar /s

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u/ProfilGesperrt153 1d ago

Source about this? Sounds too good to be true

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u/egoodethc 1d ago

Yes definitely made up. He’s named Elon after his grandfather I think.

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u/momoenthusiastic 1d ago

Is this for real?

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u/1RollinRollinRollin 22h ago

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/04/musk-leader-mars/

While snopes isn’t always the MOST trusted source… it was one of many sites that came up with similar info that this is not exactly true

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u/DietSpam 2d ago

ur just gonna gloss over how he was a nazi?

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u/Business-Court-5072 2d ago

Elon Musk wants the IRL squid game

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u/TheCopenhagenCowboy 1d ago

Naw they want us living like hunger games

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u/aFireFartingDragon 2d ago

The naming everyone a number thing isn't in the Wiki article.

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u/JrTeapot 2d ago

There’s a great Dollop episode about it. It really is just Musk trying to follow on his grandfather’s footsteps.

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u/Resident_Map4534 1d ago

My bad. I linked to the grandfather article that was open source but you have to dig in the links about technocracy a bit to find that thing about the numbers. The NYT had an article about it yesterday.

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u/sneepsnork 2d ago

Typical thing for a Nazi to emulate

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u/Soupismyfavoritefood 1d ago

Ok so then go back to SA and fuck around there. We don’t want Elon

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u/soyyoo 2d ago

🤮🤮🤮

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u/Mr_Thx 2d ago

It’s a typo, he wanted to limit erections…

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u/fireusernamebro 2d ago

My grandpa thought communism was good, and then the communists genocided our country. Grandparents are allowed to be dumb and I hope that no one thinks my ideas are his even though we believe vaguely similar things

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u/Resident_Map4534 2d ago

Do you copy a lot of your grandparent's ideas so that they ARE very similar though? Because then this is what I would think.

I don't know too many people who wanted people to be called numbers, let alone went through with it and named their kid a number.

Read about the Technocracy movement of his grandfather and it ticks a lot of boxes.

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u/Scrotem_Pole69 2d ago

Why not take his own advice. Not as though Errol is much of a improvement over “Seven”

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u/OyenArdv 1d ago

His grandfather would be proud

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u/Realistic_Emu_721 2d ago

Propaganda is great

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u/VexMilk-_- 2d ago

Tell that to X AE A-12

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u/Maherjuana 2d ago

He names his children after numbers though